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Jan. 27, 2016 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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January 27, 2016, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Now, just to review, I understood the point that our first caller was making, Peter from Seattle was his name.
And he basically said, look, Megan Kelly ought to just bump out of this.
This is not about her.
It's about the candidates.
We've got a presidential campaign going on here.
And people want to find out what these candidates think, not what the moderators think.
And I understand that his real point was not that she should be gracious and back out.
His point was that reporters shouldn't be the ones making news.
And on that basis, reporters ought to just step aside here.
You know, moderate it, fine.
Just ring the bell when time's up.
And other than that, let it go.
Let it be a free.
Let it be a real debate, not an elongated Sunday show.
And a lot of people have this view.
But see, this is my point in the first hour, the game, the rules, the way this is all evolved.
The media does control who gets access.
The media does control.
You've heard it.
You've called here and complained about it.
The Republicans have to not only beat the Democrats, have to beat the media.
And you complained about that to the Republicans, and what do they tell you?
Yeah, that's just the way it is.
Yeah, I know, but that's our cross to bear.
Well, Trump is saying, screw it.
I'm not playing that game.
It's a guaranteed loser.
I'm not running against Megan Kelly.
I'm not running against Britt Hume.
I'm not running against Chris Wallace.
And I don't want them to act like they are running against me.
But see, the game has evolved in such a way now that the media does have this prominent role.
I mean, they determine what is news.
They determine what isn't news.
And they determine what you hear about the news in terms of commentary.
And they used to have a monopoly on it.
Now they don't, which has made them, I think, even more partisan, openly partisan.
They've always been partisan.
It's making them more openly partisan than they've ever been.
But here comes Trump outside the parameters of all of this, outside the boundaries.
He's not playing the game.
He's done it.
He's played the game.
He's been a good boy up until now.
But this, for whatever reasons that he cites, is too much.
But don't kid yourself.
This isn't over.
There are negotiations going on.
The UK Daily Mail has a story here that the feud that Trump is having with Fox News has resulted in Roger Ailes calling his wife and daughter in an attempt to get him back to the debate.
Headline of the story.
Donald Trump feud causes panicking Fox News CEO to call Ivanka and Melania in an attempt to get the frontrunner back to the debate.
But Trump says he will only speak to Murdoch.
Donald Trump's refusal to attend the debate on Thursday night has sent Fox News into chaos.
Well, now let's look at that.
I mean, because in some people's minds, that's what the Daily Mail's reporting, UK Daily Mail.
We've cited them as a credible, really good publication.
Let's take a look at this from a number of different angles, shall we?
Trump says that he's not going to participate in the Fox News debate on Thursday, and instead he's going to be raising money for vets.
Stated reason, Megan Kelly is going to be a moderator, and he doesn't want to go through that again, whatever it is.
Now, over here, let's not forget there's a presidential race long after the primaries are over.
And for all we know, Trump's already begun to run that.
And one thing that Trump knows is that Democrats and liberals despise Fox News.
They hate it.
Fox News is Satan to them.
Fox News is the Antichrist.
Fox, it's irrational, but they literally hate Fox News.
It's on the brain.
I'm sure Roger Moore last night had to get tetanus shots and all other kinds of inoculations before.
Michael Moore, what did I say?
Roger Moore.
Oh, yeah, that's definitely not Roger Moore.
Yeah, Michael Moore.
I'm sure he had to go in there and get shots before he walked in the building.
Thinking Trump might be making a play to broaden his base for the general election.
Some people may think that's what's going on, which no votes have been cast yet.
But what if Trump already thinks he's got this wrapped up?
And he's already running the general campaign now.
I don't think that's the case, but some people are going to be analyzing it that way.
Maybe Trump is just ticked off in general about something, and Megan Kelly and Fox happen to be the target today for what is ticking him off.
Maybe he's fed up with what he hears from everybody on Fox about himself.
Who knows?
Is it strategic?
Is it personal?
Is it both?
Bottom line is nobody does this.
In the process, Trump has taken charge of the media.
While the media is out there saying, you don't get to control the media, Trump is controlling the media.
Nobody gets to control the media.
Yeah, they do.
If they can.
You're telling me that Bill Clinton hasn't controlled the media?
You think Barack Obama doesn't control the media?
Don't make me laugh.
But nobody has sliced this, Donald.
Trump is the story.
He's the story when he's there.
He's the story when he's not there.
Telling Fox News he doesn't want to be there is a story.
He says he's got endorsements to announce.
You know what?
I don't have time for you people at Fox, but this guy, this evangelist over here, Falwell Jr., in my camp, guy's smart.
Guy loves me.
Best evangelist going.
Better than any evangelist out there because he endorsed me.
You know the drill.
So here we are.
He's trailing in Iowa and some polls, some polls, he's ahead in Iowa.
Regards Nipintuck.
He's in the process of orchestrating massive media attention on his terms just before the caucuses on Monday night.
He hasn't won Iowa.
And for all we know, he's still a few points behind.
People say if he wins Iowa, that means he's going to run the table and win the whole shebang.
Ted Cruz is out saying that's a possibility.
That's why you've got to vote for me.
Don't waste your vote on any of these other Republicans up here, Cruz.
You've got to vote for me.
By the way, if Trump actually doesn't show up, and I think it's still an open question.
It's another thing.
You don't know for sure what's going to happen until the thing starts and he's not there.
And even then, you don't know if he'll try to join the thing in progress.
I mean, look, folks, where Trump is concerned, there aren't any rules.
And if there are, he has no problem blowing past them.
Now, just recently, Donald Trump was talking about how he's the guy he can make deals.
He could do deals with Harry Reid.
He could do deals with Nancy Pelosi.
He could do deals with Chuck Schumer.
I would expect tomorrow night we'll hear Ted Cruz speak a lot about that.
Cruz will probably ask, doing deals with Schumer, Pelosi, is that how we're going to make America great again?
The risk Trump runs not showing up is that there will be nobody to rebut whatever anybody says about him from the other candidates.
But he's obviously tossed that into the calculations that he has made.
How's he going to play with the caucus goers?
Well, that's like trying to analyze why Trump's supporters hang with him through everything that he does or doesn't do.
Nobody knows any of this stuff yet.
All of this, much of it, in a real sense, is unprecedented, which is why a lot of people are so unnerved by it.
Now, there are people who hate Trump, too.
And for them, Megan Kelly's a hero.
And for them, Fox News is the greatest thing to come down the pike.
There are people who despise Trump.
Republicans, conservatives think Trump is dangerous.
The worst thing could possibly happen.
So all of this that Fox is doing, they love it.
They're supporting it.
Don't doubt that Fox has their allies in this.
Fox is getting plaudits from all over the place.
But Fox is making it clear they would rather have Trump there.
They're disappointed Trump isn't going to show up for whatever reasons.
Take your pick.
But right now, Trump has positioned himself in, you'll almost say that he is beyond news.
You can't just cover Trump from the prism of news.
You have to cover Trump also through the entertainment prism.
And Megan Kelly, she herself has been featured on the covers of many pop culture magazines and websites.
That is called broadening the base.
That's called reaching out beyond the confines of what people think a news anchor is.
That's called redefining and resetting the table for the purposes of marketing and expanding the number of people that might tune in.
I mean, Fox News would love to have viewers that are interested in things other than just the news.
I mean, how else they're going to grow their audience.
So you could argue that all of this, boiled down to his essence, is show business of one form or another.
And if that's the case, who's better at it than anybody else?
Who's familiar with it?
Who knows how to do show business media?
Some people, when they're faced with the media, are simply compliant and polite and try to answer the questions, and others look at them as people with whom you have to engage in combat.
And some say, I'd just rather them not be involved in what I'm doing at all to hell with it.
Why do I have to basically bow down and kiss their feet to get where I want to go?
Trump is media, Sabby.
Knows TV.
And a big part of knowing TV is not fearing it.
That's why I have to chuckle when I hear people, oh man, Trump is not looking good.
Afraid of Megan Kelly?
What do you mean?
If you're going to be afraid of Megan Kelly, how are you going to negotiate with Putin?
It isn't about being afraid of anybody.
And by the way, let me restate every syllable of commentary for me today is coming from a point of absolutely no support or opposition to one candidate or another.
Nothing I say today is shaped by personal preference in this race.
That's why I opened the program the way I did.
I got to take a brief time out here.
We'll come back.
There's a lot of great audio soundbites on this to bounce off of too, as well of your phone calls.
And there's Democrat news out there as well.
And there's updates on what happened in Houston yesterday with a grand jury and this whole Planned Parenthood thing.
And how did that happen and what it all means.
And I kept the story yesterday about New York City is going to allow public urination so that poor people and minorities who are doing it already can continue to do it and not be charged with any criminal activity and therefore not be stigmatized.
They don't have anywhere else to go urinate because they're poor.
You won't believe this, but it's true.
All that and even stuff I haven't mentioned yet.
Coming up, don't go away.
If I may, folks, let me remind you of a point that I have made on many previous occasions over and over again.
There isn't any news anymore.
The media is not news.
Not in the sense that you turn to the media to find out what happened a couple hours ago that you didn't know or what happened last night that you didn't know.
That's what people think the news is.
It isn't the news.
The news, depending on where you get it, there's an agenda behind every bit of it.
The drive-by media, mainstream media, is the Democrat Party agenda and how to advance it.
And it consists of never-ending criticism and mocking of the Republican Party and conservatives.
It's called news.
It's called the news media, but there isn't any news.
Oh, there may be some news on weekends when the agenda has gone to sleep for a while.
They may be telling you what's going on at some, I don't know, national park with a fire or something.
But there's no news anymore, every bit of it.
And more and more, it's descending into show business, entertainment news of one degree or another.
That's the reduction that is taking place here in much of, and by that I mean it's all personality oriented on both sides of the camera, on both sides of the microphone.
Now, Trump isn't even unprecedented here.
Have you remembered the RNC canceled a debate on NBC?
Remember why?
Because they didn't like the questions that were asked by the CNBC moderators.
If you remember that, remember that was the debate where Ted Cruz stopped everything for a minute and said the questions being asked here are absurd, they're ridiculous, they're offensive, and they're distracting.
Remember, everybody applauded all that.
And the CNBC moderators smirked and laughed and they chuckled.
And even though they were being ripped to shreds, they thought, home run, man, we became the story.
The idea that the media are not the story, don't make me laugh.
The idea that the media gets out of the way, doesn't want to become the story, wrong O. Who's going to pay you $6 million a year to anchor a program where you aren't the news?
You have to, if they're going to pay you $6 million, $12 million, whatever it is, you better be the reason people are tuning in.
And if you are the reason people tuning in, it's not that you're doing news in the standard definition of the news.
There's something else going on.
And it's happening throughout the media.
It's all now personal.
It's all opinion in one degree or another.
And the absurdo due reductum is show business.
Absurdo due reductum.
That's that, if you want to say a low common or lowest common denominator, that's what all it's all personality oriented.
But the RNC told NBC, screw you guys, we're pulling the debate from your network in February.
Did you see NBC spend two days and they can't tell you?
NBC did not act like a big, big hip, but he's ignored.
It's okay, fine.
You don't want a debate here.
We'll kill you somewhere else.
The RNC told National Review, you know what?
We're not going to let you moderate the next debate.
Why?
What'd we do?
Well, that anti-Trump issue, he's our frontrunner.
Screw you.
You can't come here.
So what Trump's doing is Bernie Sanders, I don't know if you care or if her Bernie Sanders is, he's not going to do the next Democrat debate.
Now, Bernie's not going to go, not because of the moderators.
See, the reason this with Trump is news is because he's saying the media are the reason.
And the media, everything's about them.
Do not think anything but everything's about, he's not showing up because of us.
How dare he?
Whatever.
If Trump had said, you know, I'm not showing up because I think Ted Cruz is whatever.
I don't want to put up a Ted Cruz anymore.
They would make news, but they wouldn't be righteously indignant and so forth.
But it would not be nearly covered nearly the same way as when the media.
And don't think for a moment they don't love being the reason because everybody wants to be the story.
If you're on social media, you want everybody to know who you are and you want gazillions of followers.
If you're in the broadcast media, you want everybody watching you knowing who you are because of what you do, not because of what anybody else does on your show.
Here is Christine in Tucson as we head back to the phones.
Great to have you on the program.
Hello.
Hi there.
Hi.
My comment is we will get to see what it looks like without Donald Trump.
Where would we be?
What would we be talking about?
And that leads to what will our country look like without Donald Trump in charge.
It'll be the same old, same old.
And that's what it's going to be Thursday night.
The same old cruise, Herubio, Senate campaign speeches that we've been hearing for years and years.
Six defense reveal Obamacare.
So if I understand what you're saying, you're saying since Trump won't be there, we're going to get to see what politics looks like without him, which is, yeah, no big deal.
It's the same bunch of blow-dried candidates going on and on about this policy or that policy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, been there, done that, no big deal.
That's how you think people are going to see it.
Yeah, we're going to see what it's like without Trump.
Trump has been what we've talked about.
And what did he talk about?
Yeah, but here's another thing about that, Christine, that the debates is where Trump is actually the least prominent.
He actually does play by the rules when he shows up.
He obeys the time limits.
When the bell goes off, he shuts up.
He's not nearly the same guy he is when he owns the stage at one of his own appearances.
He goes out, he does these debates, and he's playing the game by the rules in those debates.
But most of the debates have been about Trump.
What do you think about Trump saying this?
What do you think about Trump saying that?
Yeah, that's true.
I have to admit that.
And I also think he's proving his skills at negotiation.
Right.
If he doesn't get what he goes in to negotiate with, he will walk away.
Okay, so I get it.
Okay.
So her thought is, we're going to find out, this is what she's saying.
We're going to find out how boring all this stuff really is Thursday night.
Who wants to watch that?
Folks, I want to let you in on another observation of mine.
And that's all it is, is an observation.
I have found when talking to people, including media people, in the East Coast, New York, well, all the way up and down the East Coast, New York, Washington, Boston, down here, South Florida, so forth.
Virtually everybody thinks of Fox News as a conservative network.
But you go out, as I've traveled around and go places, like for the holidays, I say people in Missouri, Christmas, see people all over the place.
Golf trips, I see people all over the country.
And I'm here to tell you, Fox News is not considered the conservative network that it used to be.
It's still, I'm not trying to start anything up here.
I'm saying that when you hear the media, who are all leftists, when you hear them talk about Fox News, it may as well be the John Birch Society as far as they're concerned.
That's why they hate it.
It may as well be the Birchers.
It may as well be whatever evil right-wing organization, that's what they think it is.
But you go out to the heartland of this country, and it's not so much.
I mean, what would a conservative network be doing giving time to Michael Moore?
Why would New York Times and Washington Post reporters be on the air to give opinions on a conservative?
This is what people are saying out there that I hear.
Now, the identity is still pretty, obviously, heavily tilted to news and analysis that you don't get anywhere else, and that remains true.
I'm just telling you people's perceptions as they share them with me.
And I'll tell you what I think.
Because I find it amazing that it's just more evidence of the media being out of touch and not really knowing what people say, since we're talking about Iowa.
I don't think they really know what's important to the people of Iowa.
Because they look at everything through their own prism of being in the Northeast and part of the liberal power structure that determines everything, social, political, structure in that part of the country.
And as such, there's a divide, and it's not just among elected officials.
I speak constantly about the disconnect that exists now between elected officials and people, Republican and Democrat.
The distance is the disconnect between the people who vote for them and the people that serve in office is bigger than I've ever seen it.
And it's no more obvious than on the issue of immigration.
But it's also obvious on the issue of, say, Obamacare or any notice spending.
And when you start talking about Fox News, people in the media, just embarrassing right wing.
My God.
But it's not thought of that way in many parts of the country.
We've got a new bunch of polling data in here from Monmouth University about Iowa.
And I guess the news here is that Rubio is moving up a little bit.
Here are the numbers.
Donald Trump is at 30.
Ted Cruz is at 23.
This is likely caucus goers being asked who they will caucus for.
So this is the equivalent of a likely voter poll.
This is likely caucus goers.
Remember, one of the things being thrown out about Trump is, well, we don't even know if his supporters are going to show up.
We don't even know if they know how to.
We don't even know if Trump supporters know where to go to caucus.
And then once they get there, if they know what to do.
So point being, yeah, Trump's leading in the polls, but what if his voters don't show up?
What if his caucus goers don't?
So they went out at Monmouth.
They did a poll.
Likely caucus goers.
Trump 30, Cruz 23.
Marco Rubio at 16, which is a move up.
Here's Rich in White Plains, New York.
Hello, Rich.
Great to have you with us.
Hey, Rush, thanks for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
Rush, there's a fundamental flaw in the debate process that's being overlooked.
There's a conflict of interest when the ratings-driven broadcast network provides moderators where the questioning isn't issue-driven, but intended to start infighting between the candidates or, like you said before, shine the spotlight on the moderator with their great but stupid gotcha questions.
And I think these debates should be conducted by Hillsdale College National Review or the Heritage Foundation and let the highest bidder in the universe of broadcast networks point the cameras and set up the microphones.
The highest bidders.
You mean as opposed to assigning it by some debate commission?
Well, I'm not exactly sure how that would work, Rush.
Maybe you would know better.
I mean, if that were the format where they were independent, the people putting on the debate, and then how you would go about getting a broadcast network to let me translate what I think you're really saying, and you tell me if I'm on the mark or not.
Seems to me your real point is that we wouldn't even be talking about this if it weren't for the fact that debate moderators end up being so damn important to this process when they absolutely.
You got it.
That is exactly right.
That's why I sit in this chair, folks.
That's amazing.
Make that complex understandable.
And it's a good point.
I think your point reflects the thinking of a lot of people.
My dad, you know, my dad was, he lived and breathed this stuff.
And he had the same attitude you do.
Why are these people?
Why does it, why, his idea, put blindfolds on the media people.
We don't even know who they are.
They should just be in the background.
Anybody can ask questions we want to have the answers to.
But they become as important as the candidates.
That's part of the game, folks.
That's the rule because it's so bizarre.
Don't forget this is as much as we might want to think that civics and public responsibility and the issues of the day and finding the best candidates, making sure that we are best equipped to deal with the evil in the world that opposes us and the right economic promises.
Don't forget that before we get there, we have to make sure that the noted stars get their due along the way.
Candidates, media people, moderate, you name it.
Endorsers?
I'm not trying.
No, no, no.
It is what it is.
That's why you have to wade through the noise here.
That's what I mean by making a complex understandable.
It's a great point that he's raising here.
This is Donna in Gilbert, Arizona, as we head back.
Great to have you, Donna.
Hi.
Hi, good to be with you.
Thank you.
Now, this is something I'm really passionate about, so I'll try and calm myself down.
No, no, no.
Let her rip.
All right.
Megan Kelly, I have been watching her since she first came on the air in Fox News.
Okay.
And I'm a Fox News junkie, and so I'm not an expert, but it's been a long time of viewing that I've been doing this.
So first, let me say that I think she is as brilliant as she is beautiful.
I just, I praise her to all my friends.
I love watching her.
She's, and why do I like watching her?
Because she has a controlled edge, fearlessness, professionalism, and I'm hooked on her.
Therefore, the night of the debate that we were all just watching because Trump has just stirred this whole campaign up, this whole campaign process.
So we're all watching.
First thing out of the gate comes her question.
And the minute she started talking, I'm going to myself, wait a minute.
Wait a minute, Megan.
Where are you going with this?
Why are you using that tone?
Where's my controlled edge person that I'm so used to?
She crossed a line to me, and she became someone that I hadn't seen in all the years that I've been watching her.
She went outside of herself.
Her voice, tone, her infliction, it was like an attack.
And then after that, you know, whatever, Donald smoothed it over as best he could.
And the whole rest of the debate, I'm going, why, Megan?
Why?
What did that accomplish?
Why did you make that about yourself?
Well, what did you think?
How did you answer your own question?
That she, in all this perfection that she is, because she is pretty spot on all the time, all the time.
She's human.
And I honestly believe that, I don't think she hates Donald Trump, but I think everything that you were touching on, which you have done brilliantly today, I was just glued to my car radio, is that Trump is outside of what everyone is used to.
He's a threat.
I think to her, she thought, you know, you're a threat to these other gentlemen that have been in politics for a long time.
And I think she wanted, and I don't want to say gotcha because then that really makes her bad.
But I think, but that's what she did.
You know, if actions speak louder than words, it was unprofessional.
It was not Megan-like.
It made me sad for her.
It ruined the whole debate for me because then it put this dark negative cloud over the whole thing.
And then let me just say one more thing.
Yes.
There was a small window of time after that debate that, and it's like when you have an argument with a friend or a spouse or something.
There was a small window of time where she still could have saved faith by saying, you know, I don't regret my question because it was, you know, the truth or what is documented.
But I regret saying it the way I did.
And I regret not taking into the fact that Donald Trump has not been in politics his whole life.
He's a businessman.
You know, I don't know how she could have done it, but I wish they hadn't thrown the gauntlet down and said, we're standing behind negative.
There's an old axiom out there, Donna, and that is you never apologize.
You never admit, and you never apologize.
I mean, something like this.
I mean, there are exceptions to that.
But it's an interesting take.
I think, let's not forget, folks, I just, I need to remind you again, we're talking about the August 6th debate.
And before that debate, I could go back to the archives, I could find all the stories that were circulating.
They were rumors that orders had been given from on high somewhere at the RNC, from the donor class, or what, take Trump out.
Remember, one of the rumors, in fact, one of the rumors going around was that Fox News was going to take Trump out for the sake of preserving the established order in the Republican Party.
Trump had heard those rumors.
I mean, everybody had.
It was the thing everybody was buzzing about.
And I don't think there was any doubt that back then, hey, look, this is exactly what does happen.
Here's this giant outsider coming in here and all of a sudden owning the game.
It's not going to last.
And so the powers that be said, we're going to marshal our forces.
This guy doesn't know what he's up against.
This guy's never played our game.
This guy, he's from a different.
We're going to take him out.
We're going to get rid of this right now.
We're going to nip this in the bud.
A lot of people believed the rumors.
And no doubt Trump heard them as well.
Anyway, I appreciate Donna, the call.
I appreciate it.
We'll be back after this and continue.
Don't go away.
Welcome back, folks.
El Rushball with half my brain tied behind my back, just to make it fair.
Now, while all this is going on, two of the leading socialists in America met at the White House today, Bernie Sanders and Barack Hussein.
Oh.
Now, I don't know what the occasion was.
Do you know why Bernie went there?
Was this have to do?
What's going on?
There's something not right about this.
Oh, is that what it was?
Okay, so Obama, Obama praised Hillary almost sounded like an endorsement.
Of course, because you hear what Hillary's saying.
Folks, there's not going to be.
I'm here to tell you right now, there's not going to be an indictment on Hillary.
The FBI is going to have to revolt because it ain't going to happen.
Hillary's out there saying, you know what?
You know who'd be the next greatest judge in the Supreme Court?
It'd be Barack Obama.
So Obama comes back and practically endorses Hillary and Bernie says, wait a minute, wait a minute.
So Bernie requested a meeting, meet his fellow socialists in the White House.
They had the meeting today.
Bernie is not committing to the next Democrat debate, by the way.
But it's not because the moderators are going to be unfair, so it's not news.
But here's what Bernie said after finishing his meeting with his fellow socialists.
Seven years ago, when President Bush left office, this country was hemorrhaging 800,000 jobs a month.
We were running a $1.4 trillion deficit, largest in our country's history.
And by the way, sometimes we forget the world's financial system was on the verge of collapse.
It's also important to remember how far we have come in the last seven years.
Oh, God.
The president and I discussed this morning a number of issues, foreign policy issues, domestic issues, occasionally a little bit of politics.
But I enjoyed the meeting and I thought it was a very positive and constructive.
Okay, so the two leading socialists in America concluded it's still Bush's fault.
I mean, that's the essence of it.
The nation's top two socialists meet at the White House conclude everything remains the fault of George W. Bush.
Mike, in a truck, driving the back roads of Maine.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Maha Rush is a hero.
What's going on, man?
You tell me.
You're the one driving around in Maine.
Well, besides all the liberalism leaking everywhere, we're doing okay.
Listen, man, I'm from Segston, Missouri, grew up there, 30 minutes away from your hometown.
So I went to your mural in Cape Gerardo and prayed three times a day.
I'm a huge fan.
I've been listening since the Bimbo eruptions.
I'm 30 years old.
Thank you very much.
And I love you very much.
I appreciate you, and I appreciate everything you've done for conservatism.
Thank you very much.
He's talking about my mural on the flood wall.
I'm going to sit right over.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't give people the wrong idea.
A beautiful, beautiful effigy.
Listen, hey, permission to speak freely, sir.
You got it.
All right.
I'm just calling in today because I just want to put a shot of adrenaline in the Conservative Party.
Okay.
I've been watching.
I've been listening.
Everybody's complaining about these debaters.
Everybody's complaining about the formats not showing, showing.
I tell you, Ted Cruz, this guy, you refer, I hear you use the phrase, and I know it's a phrase that's been used, the happy warrior.
The hotter they turn up to eat, the better this guy gets.
The better he gets.
And I'm telling you, I don't care who they put in front of you and what questions they ask.
It doesn't matter.
We know who the media is.
We know how the media works.
They've been the same.
Mike, Mike, I've got to stop in, step in because we're out of time here.
See if he has time to hold on because he didn't get where he's going here.
I was patient, but there's something he wants to ask, and we'll give him a chance to hear me.
Back in 2011, five years ago, Donald Trump praised Megan Kelly as a debate moderator.
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