Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Yes, it's beginning to look a lot like guest hosts.
The season of guest hosts is upon us on the on the second day of guest hosts, Rush Limbaugh gave to me the same lousy foreigner as yesterday.
But don't worry.
The season of guest hosts will eventually end, and Rush will be back here live on March 27th.
America's Anchorman is away today, and this is your EIB anchor baby, Mark Stein.
Honored to be with you this Christmas Eve.
Christmas Day, we have three hours of EIB approved Christmas music.
You may hear a little bit of me from my uh Christmas album amidst the uh Manheim steamroller that Rush loves.
Just a soup song.
It's uh it's mostly Manheim steamroller, but occasionally a bit of Markheim Steinroller, just uh uh just to add to the variety.
That's Christmas Day, uh and then Boxing Day.
Well, um Boxing Day isn't observed at the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
It's a totally un-American activity.
And uh then Monday, who's here uh who's here Monday, Mr. Snerdley?
Uh oh uh Mark Belling.
Mark Belling's gonna be in on uh Monday.
You know, it's like pretty degrading being uh a guest host.
Uh a lot of us guest hosts suffer from low self-esteem.
I mean, what kind of real man works uh seven days a year?
Uh but if you if you think about it, guest hosts are the real meaning of Christmas.
Uh you know, like all those shepherds and kings around the cradle were like the guest hosts for the Bethlehem General Hospital, Obamacare, IRS compliance agents.
So they were like the first guest hosts.
And who's the most famous guest host in history?
Uh Rudolph with your nose so bright.
Won't you guest host my sleigh tonight?
Because Prancer and Vixen are out this week.
So we guest hosts, I like to think, are the real meaning of Christmas.
So spare a thought for the guest host in your family this Christmas, uh, because he'll probably be sitting right in this very chair sometime in the next three weeks, three to seven, three to seven to twelve weeks until Rush comes back in late March.
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I'm not sure where are we gonna do open line Christmas Eve?
I don't know.
We we we could do a little bit of open line Christmas Eve if you want to if you want to uh call.
If you're not happy talking about the exciting news that uh Rand Paul is up two points in Iowa, or George George Pataki is uh down a 0.05 of a point in New Hampshire, uh and you want to uh offer a little ballet criticism or a few cricket scores, then uh by all means foe that in.
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After yesterday's show, I got a uh a note from listener Michael Gostkowski, who said, Why don't you bozos use the line you used uh a few years ago?
And he quoted a piece I'd written about Christmas.
Uh it was something Hillary said in 1999.
Christmas, according to Hillary Rodham Clinton, is when those in that particular faith tradition celebrate, quote, the birth of a homeless child.
Or as Al Gore put it, two thousand years ago a hobeless robber gave birth to a homeless child.
And uh Hillary and Gore used to do this all the time.
But at about ten, uh whatever it was, ten, fifteen years ago, I said, for Pete's sake, they weren't homeless.
They couldn't get a hotel room.
Uh the Christmas story is the classic big government story because they had to sleep in the stable only because Dad had to schlep halfway across the country to pay his taxes in the town of his birth, which is the kind of cockamamy bureaucratic nightmare only a blue state uh would cook up.
Uh, you know, except that in Massachusetts it's it's no doubt illegal to rent out your stable without applying for a livestock shelter change of use permit plus a temporary maternity ward for non-insured transients license or something.
So Mary would have been giving birth to Jesus under a bridge on I-95 if uh if she'd had the misfortune to be doing it in Massachusetts.
Um but but uh when you think about it, it wouldn't that be a great, the simplest solution to the illegal immigration business.
If Uh we were just to have the same system uh that they had back there in Bethlehem, where for the census you had to return to the town of your birth.
So if we had that in this country, instantly the illegal immigration thing would be solved, because thirty million people would simply be heading south of the Rio Grande to register for the census in the town you above.
Let's see if Donald Trump will take that up this uh this Christmas season.
Uh it is Christmas Eve, and we let's do open line semi Christmasy.
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So if you don't want to, if you're not excited uh about Rand Paul being up a point in Iowa or George Padaki being down 0.2 points in New Hampshire, then call and talk about whatever you want to talk about, just as a little Christmas Eve gift from the EIB network.
And we will do that.
We will talk all the politics up until 3 p.m.
Eastern, midday Pacific.
But at that point, remember what Rush says every year, uh, and in fact just said uh on Tuesday, uh the then forget all that stuff for a few days, forget the politics, ten to your loved ones, ten to the stuff that matters, the stuff that's upstream from politics, uh, because if you don't get all that big stuff right, then the politics uh doesn't matter.
But we'll we'll do all the politics uh for the next three hours, and then after that, just chill over the Christmas season and tend to what matters.
I'm still a bit schlonged out from yesterday.
Uh after after yesterday's three year schlonging, the Schlong Schlong Trail a winding for three hours over the airwaves yesterday.
Uh but there have been some developments overnight.
George Will has said if Trump wins the nomination, prepare for the end of the Conservative Party.
It is a blistering column from George Will in the Washington Post today.
If you look beyond Donald Trump's comprehensive unpleasantness, is there a disagreeable human trait he does not have?
You might see this.
He is a fundamentally sad figure.
His compulsive boasting is evidence of insecurity.
His unassuageable neediness suggests an aching hunger for others' approval to ratify his self-admiration.
His incessant announcements of his self-esteem indicate that he is not self-persuaded.
Now panting with a puppy's insatiable eagerness to be petted.
Trump has reveled in the approval of Vladimir Putin, murderer and war criminal.
And George Will goes on to insist that if Trump is the Republican nominee in 2016, uh there will be no Conservative Party in the United States by 2020.
Uh and what uh George Will says is this one hundred and four years of history is in the balance.
The entire history of the American conservative movement will stand or fall on whether Trump wins the nomination.
That's George Will in the Washington uh Post today.
The the the rules have changed for this next debate.
There's uh the the there's there's a big argument to be made against that, and I'll make the big argument in a bit.
But uh just as a practical matter, the rules have changed for the for the debate starting January the fourteenth.
On January the fourteenth, there's only gonna be there's not gonna be like nine people on stage anymore.
There's only gonna be six or maybe seven.
Uh because you have to be in the top six nationally or in the top five in either uh New Hampshire or Iowa before you will qualify for the the uh next debate uh in uh on January the fourteenth.
And that's that's a big change, and that means that you're not gonna be seeing uh certain bunch of people on stage.
Rand Paul has already said he's gonna refuse to move down to the undercard debate.
Rand Paul has a chance in one of those top five Iowa New Hampshire polls, he is a top five, uh he has a chance of maybe sneaking into it.
But if not, it's just gonna be Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Carson, Bush, Christie, and maybe Rand Paul from Iowa, maybe John Kasich from New Hampshire.
But you're not gonna be seeing anybody else on stage.
That's all gonna be on stage.
They're they're the only ones.
And by the end of uh by close of business uh in New Hampshire primary night, there's basically gonna be three primaries within the main primary.
There's there's the populist primary, Donald Trump has that sewn up, but if he were to lose badly in Iowa and New Hampshire, I think if he were to lose both Iowa and New Hampshire, he would he wouldn't be interested in sticking around.
Then there's the so-called mainstream primary, which is when they'll coalesce again uh around Rubio or Christie or you know, whoever it is, Kasich.
There's a problem with that in that Marco Rubio actually isn't on course to win any of the early states.
Uh he hasn't actually spent a lot of time doing the retail politics thing in Iowa or New Hampshire.
New Hampshire guys are complaining that he's he's uh not showing up to campaign.
He's not just stalled, he's actually declining.
Uh so it looks now as if he hasn't just plateaued, but he's already on the slide.
So the question of whether Marco Rubio is the viable candidate for the mainstream, uh, Christie could actually steal New Hampshire away from him, uh, or could certainly be the most viable mainstream so-called mainstream candidate at the end of the so you would be leaving New Hampshire uh with Trump as the populist uh on the populist side, and then maybe Rubio, but maybe Christie.
I can't honestly believe people are going to go for Kasich.
Uh but uh uh and then plus Cruz, who so far is the only candidate who's able to been able to triangulate the kind of populist and the kind of house trained Republican side of things, and he's really in a category all of all of his own.
But things could that's there's only four candidates likely to.
I said yesterday three, but by the by the close of business in New Hampshire, uh there'll be the populist wing for Trump, uh there'll be Ted Cruz with his artful triangulation, and there will be maybe two mainstream candidates because the establishment hasn't yet decided who to get behind.
The great news is that following the withdrawal of Lindsey Graham from the race, Lindsey Graham's participation in this presidential primary, he's basically the Archduke Franz Ferdinand of the Republican nominating process this year.
He's not a figure who was terribly important or consequential in his own right, but John McCain had endorsed him because as you know if you've heard return to Saddlesaw Canyon on Rush over the years, John McCain and Lindsey Graham are uh extremely close on matters of foreign policy.
And so with Lindsey Graham out of the race, John McCain, who's been going around doing all these, I'm proud to stand with my friend Lindsey Graham Towd Halls, where he's been playing to five people and a dead dog in little town halls all over New Hampshire.
Uh John McCain is now free to throw his weight behind someone who actually stands a chance of getting into double digits in the polls.
And there's all these there's a story in Bloomberg today about how McCain and Romney are hatching this plan to get behind Rubio to endorse Rubio and therefore Rubio will snaffle away New Hampshire and deprive Donald Trump of victory in New Hampshire.
But they're all coming up with it now.
Uh George Will says that the Trump nomination will be the end of the conservative party in the United States of America.
Russia had the best answer to that after the budget deal.
So what?
What as a matter of practicality, what difference does it make?
Uh the United States government spends more per citizen than the government of France does.
We think of France as a big panty waste socialist cheese eating surrender monkey uh effet decadent EuroPansy country.
The government of France spends less per citizen, less on each citizen than the government of the United States does.
That's what the Conservative Movement has done for big government.
The conservative movement has Had an abortion litmus test for 40 years, and America is the abortion mill of the world.
We have a a government funded organization.
We have basically the Exxon Mobile.
We have the General Motors of abortion, which is what Planned Parenthood is, except that it's government subsidized and it's shipping body parts of babies around the country, and it's fully funded by a Republican House and a Republican Senate.
So conservatism makes no difference to abortion, makes no difference to fiscal responsibility.
It would be nice to have conservative government.
But somehow the Conservative Party doesn't seem to be leading to conservative government.
And so George Will might be shedding a tear for the Republican Party if uh Donald Trump is going to be as disastrous uh for conservatism in America as he says.
But the fact of the matter is that uh uh the conservative movement, the conservative movement, uh has elected conservative legislators, and then conservative legislators have fully funded Planned Parenthood and fully funded uh uh uh amnesty and fully funded uh Obama's latest plans to bring in Syrian refugees.
That's the issue uh beyond anything Trump does.
Trump is a phenomenon of the failure of the Conservative movement.
We'll take that, talk that, and more your calls straight ahead.
Mark Stein, in for us on the EIB network.
Hillary Clinton uh yesterday was at a town hall event in Kyoto, Iowa, and uh said she would only keep open better than average schools.
Uh she was in a school district that has better than average results, and she told the crowd, I wouldn't keep any school open that wasn't doing a better than average job.
So if you're looking for a fiscally conservative candidate, Hillary is your woman.
She has told this Iowa audience that she is not going to keep open any school that isn't better than average.
So they will well, they'll first they'll close all the schools that aren't better.
They'll work out what the average is, and then they'll close all the schools that are below average, and then next year, when they take the measurement of where the average is, uh the average will be even higher, and then they'll close all those schools,
and eventually there'll be two schools left, and there'll be one that is above average and one that is below average, and they'll close that, and there will be one school in America which will have the largest class ever known to man, and that's but that's how she's gonna that's how she's gonna control education spending by closing every school that is below average.
That is the sort of thing that if Sarah Palin had said it, uh the uh Tina Faye and co at Saturday Night Live would be going on about how she was the biggest biggest idiot uh ever to be on a national ticket.
But Hillary Clinton declared that she's gonna close every school that is below average.
One more update on one more schlong update.
Uh John Favreau described Trump's words yesterday as gross.
He was disgusted.
Do you know this guy, John Favreau?
He's an Obama Obama speechwriter, and he was outraged, he was disgusted how Trump could use the word schlonged about Hillary Clinton.
Uh when Hillary lost in 2008 to Obama, there's a picture of John Favreau next to a life-size cardboard cutout of Hillary, which oddly enough is more life-like than the real Hillary, but uh the life-size cardboard cutout of Hillary, and he's groping, he's got his hand on Hillary's right hand cardboard breast.
He's groping Hillary's cardboard breast, and he's objecting uh that Trump isn't showing the former First Lady and former Secretary of State uh the respect that she deserves.
Uh and this is a guy who's best known, he's an Obama speechwriter, but a picture is worth a thousand words, especially if they're written by John Favreau.
And the picture That he's best known for is this one of him standing next to a life-size cardboard cutout of Hillary Clinton, which oddly enough is also a lot more charming and personable than the real Hillary, and he's got his right hand on her right cardboard breast.
She doesn't have a uh I don't think she has a cardboard.
She hasn't had cardboard implants.
It's just this cardboard cutout of her that has a cardboard breast.
Well, uh uh have we got a what?
A hashtag.
A half schlag.
I don't know.
Is it what is it?
If you just like uh if you're groping one a cardboard breast, I think, yeah, he's basically half schlonging Hillary.
He's at an Obama event and he's half schlonging her right there on camera, this guy.
But he's now complaining that it's disrespectful.
Yeah, Radaside.
That's my version of uh have yourself a Merry Little Christmas.
I haven't heard that.
That's on my Christmas uh album with uh Miss uh Jessica Martin, who uh played Her Majesty the Queen on uh an episode of the cult uh television show uh Doctor Who that all the uh hipsters are now uh grooving to here in the United States.
Um that's uh that's me doing have yourself a Merry Little Christmas.
I made no claims for it, except it's the only merry version of Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas.
If you listen to everybody else doing Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas, it's all very like James Taylor, James Taylor, you listen to his Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas, you want to slash your wrists at the end of it.
It's all very downbeat.
Uh but that's uh that's on my uh that I don't mean I'm in the spirit of Christmas.
I love James Taylor.
He's great.
He did wonders for the French people, because there's nothing you like better after a terrorist atrocity uh that's left uh uh uh all these people dead than for John Kerry to fly in and say, wait a minute, folks, you're not just getting John Kerry, he's also brought in at taxpayer expense, James Taylor to sing You've Got a Friend at you, which is what John Kerry and James Taylor did after the Charlie Hebdo uh massacre in Paris.
Bad news on the Santa front.
Uh the Daily Mail reports, you know, Norad attracts Santa Claus as he leaves the North Pole and delivers presents.
Uh the Daily Mail headline, Santa Claus was last seen delivering gifts in Afghanistan.
He's apparently dry I don't I'll I'll give you a couple of seconds.
Move your children away from the radio.
Uh Santa Claus has apparently dropped off the radar screen.
I don't know, I don't know.
He was last seen flying over Kabul, Afghanistan.
And uh and and they and Norad's lost track of him.
I don't know whether some enterprising villager mistook him for a low-flying Obama drone.
Uh yeah, I think I I don't even yes, I don't even know, actually.
Uh Mike makes the point that uh when it comes to the naughty or nice list, most of those guys are on the naughty list.
He shouldn't even be flying in that part of the world.
Um but uh Santa Claus was last seen over Kabul Afghanistan.
I'll make a serious point here.
Everyone's upset about uh Donald Trump saying, Let's end Muslim immigration.
You know, on America's watch, the last Christian church in Afghanistan was burned down.
There will be no Christians worshiping in Afghanistan this Christmas.
The last Jew left Afghanistan on America's watch when uh Afghanistan was an American protectorate, protected by American blood and treasure.
The only reason that kleptocrat uh president of theirs was still alive is because he's guarded by NATO troops.
And yet, uh funnily enough, we don't guard the values we came we claim to stand for at home.
And that's what people that's why nobody's bothered by Trump saying uh let's end Muslim immigration.
Because it's one-way multiculturalism.
Why do American troops have to die for a squalid sharia state in which the last Jew gets chased out and the last Christian church gets burned down?
Where are American val they've Afghanistan had everything.
It had American soldiers, it had American money, it had uh uh American government bureaucrats, it had American aid.
It had everything except American values, which is why it's a choke toilet today.
Uh and that's why people aren't bothered because they know, you know, you can't have a Bible in Riyadh, you can't celebrate Christmas in Afghanistan, uh, and yet we give them all our money, we give them all our troops.
Mark Stein in for Rush.
By the way, if you go to Rush Limbaugh.com, if you need a last minute present, basically, if you haven't got the present for your loved one at this point on Christmas Eve, you're dead, baby.
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Don't even try it.
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You know how Christmas morning it's kind of nice to see them, but by kind of eleven o'clock, eleven thirty, you're getting pretty sick of having to play happy families.
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Let us go to Rick in uh Idaho Falls, Idaho.
Rick, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
What's what's on your mind?
Well, I understand that uh Rush really isn't coming back till after Father's Day, is that true?
Uh when did I say March 27th?
He wasn't coming back.
I think we just got an update.
He's c he's actually coming back on April the eighteenth.
So he's Oh, that's yeah.
So you don't you know what it is?
It's the institution of uh uh, you know, like Rush, Rush talks a good conservative game, but he's like basically uh celebrating a European Union Christmas here.
If you're like an American businessman and you try to get hold of anyone in Paris or Frankfurt, they're all out of town uh basically until late January if you're if you're lucky.
And that's the kind of uh decadent uh euro uh work ethic that is now here at EIB.
No, it's I'm just I'm just messing with you, Rick.
He'll he'll be back sooner than that.
But uh look, uh it's the second day of guest hosts.
You're sick of it already, are you?
Well, no, I just I just uh No, I'm not sick of it yet.
But it's kind of our teetering on the balance.
Well it's the tightrope walker over Niagara Falls.
You're starting to wobble.
I don't know if I go that that far yet, but I guess we can work on it.
Really?
Okay, okay, oh, that's telling me.
Uh well, it's uh you wouldn't have this problem if you had a Rush 24-7 subscription.
It's a uh That's that's that's that's your problem right there.
Yeah, well we'll we'll uh we we'll have a look at we'll have a look into that.
We'll have a look into that, Rick.
We'll ever think about that.
But you should get I hope I hope some loved one of yours is listening and wants to put you out of your miss.
This is this is the first hour of the second day of guest hosts, you know.
It's like it's exactly like the twelve days of Christmas.
Everyone thinks, oh, what a cute song, and by usually by on the third day of Christmas, you're sick of it.
You realize, God, it's gonna go on like this all the way until the twelfth day of Christmas.
And Rick, normally, though, it doesn't, you're not sick of it until on the third day of Christmas.
Rick is sick of it on the second day of guest hosts.
That's how bad things are for uh for Rick.
Let's go to Thomas in Somerset uh New Jersey.
Thomas, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Great to have you with us.
Mark Stein.
Blessed Christmas to you.
Mark Stein, you are a fine wine filled with red, white and blue conservatism.
Mark, I I'm you can fill in any time for Rush and any time for Hannity.
And I'm wondering when the next time you fill in for Hannity, if you can do a public service announcement for the red, white and blue America.
Perhaps you could tell George Will, Carl Rove, Roger Els, all the Bushbots and the Czech pant Republicans, that the red, white, and blue conservatives are boarding the conservative bullet train,
and we're going all the way to the presidency, and all the scare tactics that we're gonna elect Hillary, it's gonna be the George Will, we're gonna end the conservative movement.
All those scare tactics are not going to work because the Czech pant establishment Republicans have been unmasked.
We know what they're all about, which is nothing.
They are small D Democrats, and we have nothing to lose, Mark.
We have nothing to lose for going going for Trump or perhaps Cruz, because we're not going off the cliff.
We've already gone off the cliff, and we're trying not to hit the bottom.
So just like the wise men were led to Bethlehem by the North Star.
We need three wise men to lead us to our constitution Yeah, thank thanks uh thanks, Thomas.
I I that was a a uh that was a metaphorical spectacular uh from the red, white and blue in the in the fine wine to the to the bullet train that wasn't going over the cliff.
It's uh but at the heart of it, you make a very good point.
The argument that you will destroy uh the Conservative Party doesn't run if the Conservative Party doesn't do anything for conservatism.
There's nothing conservative about this budget bill.
This budget bill is the best argument for something else.
And if the only guy offering something else is Trump, then Trump becomes the something else.
It's not difficult here.
You've got a very frozen uh electron institutionally frozen electoral system.
In in uh parliamentary systems, parties come and go because they outlive their usefulness.
In in Italy, uh there's a zillion parties.
In Germany, you've got uh generally the right governs in uh in a coalition.
What we have here is actually something similar to what happened in France just last week.
There's a nationalist movement run by Marine Le Pen uh that was doing rather well in the polls after uh the Paris terrorist attacks.
So the left and the right ganged up not to run competing candidates against her in selected constituencies and thereby deprived her party of victory.
So, in other words, you had the French left, Francois Hollande, the socialist, and the so-called French right, uh, Monsieur Sarkozy, the so-called conservative, and they agreed to essentially withdraw one of their candidates and run a united opposition to her.
And that's what that's what people are getting the same vibe here that the official left and the official right are ganging up on 50% of the American people, and 50% of the American people are sick of it.
And if you don't want the Republican Party, it's very difficult to have to change parties here in this country.
It's institutionally more difficult than anywhere else in the developed world.
And if you don't want the Republican Party to die, as George Will doesn't, then you've got to come up with a reason for it to continue living.
And what's happening at the moment isn't a good enough reason for the continued existence of the Republican Party.
Mark Stein for Rush.
More your calls straight ahead.
Mark Stein for Rush on Christmas Eve.
Merry Christmas to you.
Politico has uh a piece today called The Limits of Fact Checking by Jack Schaefer, their media guy.
And he's worrying he's worried because none of these fact check columns in any of the newspapers make any difference to Donald Trump.
The fact checkers keep giving him seven Pinocchios or whatever it is for his so-called lies, and he just goes up another 10, 15 points in the polls.
Uh, and I'll say this straight out of the box.
I don't like these fact-check columns anyway, because uh they're just a way for uh essentially the same old partisan hack to appropriate the same uh dispassionate uh judicial uh demeanor of the Supreme Court that they're just uh ruling dispassionately on the merits of the case.
They're not.
They're just they're just ridiculous figures.
The Washington Post fact-checker, uh, and they're saying they they can't understand because according to them, Donald J. Trump is the biggest documented liar in modern political times.
So why why is he it doesn't make no difference to his numbers?
Well, it's not hard to see why it doesn't make a difference to his numbers.
They've said the biggest political lie of the year is that he saw thousands of people cheering 9-11 from Jersey City, New Jersey, uh, on the day of 9-11, that he saw people celebrating it.
Uh the Washington Post gave him what they said there was no evidence for this and gave him their maximum number of five Pinocchios, which by the way is a moronic thing anyway.
We're arguing now about a stupid little gimmick uh based on a 1940s Disney film about a wooden puppet whose nose gets longer every time he lies.
That's how these genius journalists uh weigh the merits of sophisticated arguments.
Uh so here we go.
They gave him his maximum number of pin Pinocchios, but and they said there's no evidence.
Donald Trump concocted this off the top of his head, people celebrating uh 9-11 in New Jersey.
The Washington Post itself ran a story saying that there were Muslim celebrations of 9-11 in Jersey City, New Jersey.
The New York Times ran a story saying there were Muslim celebrations of 9-11 in New Jersey.
CBS television ran a story saying there were celebrations of 9-11 in New Jersey.
Uh radio stations had callers calling in from New Jersey saying that there were celebrations of 9-11 going on.
I spoke to Rudy Giuliani, the mayor of New York City at that time, on that Tuesday, one of the first things he did was he closed the tunnels from New York City to New Jersey because he was worried that terrorists were going to come across from Jersey City because that's where the terrorist cells that had pulled off the first attack on the World Trade Center was.
The other thing he did was he was worried people might be getting a bit Islamophobic.
So he ordered his police to go out and protect the Muslim community in New York City, and they came back with reports that there were Muslims celebrating 9-11 in New York City.
So Donald Trump uh said something that is true, that if you were a consumer of media, if you listened to the radio that day, if you watched the television that day, if you read the newspapers in the days that followed, you would have heard it reported that there were Muslim celebrations in New Jersey of by people who are residents of the United States of what a great victory 9-11 was.
Uh so it's entirely reasonable to say that.
We're arguing about the numbers.
Uh Giuliani says that all the police captains who reported back to him about these various Muslim celebrations.
It doesn't add up to the thousands that Donald Trump claims he saw, but we're arguing about the numbers.
The fact that there were Muslim Americans, Muslim residents of the United States celebrating 9-11, uh, was reported by the New York Times, the Washington Post, and all the rest.
So they're basically saying Donald Trump is a chump for believing what he read in the papers, for believing what he saw on TV.
For what they're basically saying Donald Trump is a liar because he believed our reporters.
That's media fact-checkers for you at the Washington Post and elsewhere.
Mark Stein for Rush, more straight ahead.
That George Will column, eviscerating Trump, says that a Trump nomination in 2016 would not just mean another democratic presidency, it would also mean the loss of what Taft and then Goldwater made possible.
A conservative party as a constant presence in U.S. politics.
This is George Will in the Washington Post today.
He's warning that a Trump nomination will not just mean a disaster in 2016, but will mean the death of the conservative movement in America.