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Dec. 17, 2015 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 17, 2015, Thursday, Hour #3
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And you are tuned to the most listened to radio talk show in America.
It's this one, Rush Linbaugh, the EIB Network.
Happy to have you here, my friends, as we head on down the highway, head on down the tracks.
It's the fastest three hours in media, zipping by today.
One big hour left, and try to get a little bit more phone action in this hour than uh otherwise would be the case.
Never know how that's going to work out, but at least it's my intention.
Phone number is 800 282-2882 and the email address L Rushbo at EIB net.com.
Uh just a couple things here to finally and uh with phenetiment that close the loop on this entire thing that's happening here with uh with Ted Cruz and Rubio.
And I think one of the reasons why it is and I'm wading into dangerous waters here.
It's about tactics.
This whole thing between Rubio and Cruz is about tactics.
It really isn't about policy differences.
And this is why it has a oh, I don't know, what's the term?
Some people are so ticked off about this.
Um all I can do is read my email uh and then listen to people talk to me, and then a lot of people ticked off over.
Well, look, it's it's clear that the establishment representatives in the media and in the Republican Party in Washington don't like Ted Cruz, and they don't like Trump either.
Uh they want a Jeb that's not looking good, so conventional wisdom is that Rubio is is the is the next choice.
And the effort that was made on Fox last night to uh be very careful the word not trick, but but to uh expose Cruz maybe as a hypocrite on some things here has got people in a little bit of a tizzy.
I'm just telling you folks, it's it's it's it's a situation where the tactics are what is upsetting you.
Nobody's upset here over the policy differences.
It's really not complicated policy-wise.
The gang of eight bill failed.
It was designed to grant amnesty to 18, 12, 20 million illegal citizens.
It failed.
And uh it's not good for any Republican who voted for it, not in a Republican primary.
So tactics are being employed here to make it look like there were more than one Republican that actually was hoping it would pass.
And that's what this is all ended up being about.
And the the tactics are the kind of tactics that Democrats use, and that's why people in a Republican primary are so ticked off about this.
to the extent that they are.
An attempt to rewrite the debating history of the Gang of Eight bill.
So there's an attempt here to muddy the waters in order to confuse low-information voters, or maybe even people who are not low-information, but not totally up to speed on this.
Trying to make it think the Gang of Eight was about more than it was.
Now, interestingly, let's listen to CNN.
Dana Bash, this morning, was on CNN with John Berman.
This was on At This Hour.
I think this is at 11 a.m. at the 11 a.m. to 12 noon hour.
And the uh the anchor said to the reporter, Dana Bash, Dana, you you're the reporter that launched 1,000 campaign slashes.
You asked the question two nights ago at the debate about immigration between Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, and this has set off a heated discussion within the Republican Party ranks.
Every blogger, every radio host right now seems to be lining up and taking sides between Rubio and Ted Cruz on immigration.
In typical kind of Marco Rubio style, he was obviously ready for that question, turned it around on Ted Cruz and brought up this kind of obscure amendment from back in 2013.
It's kind of amazing.
It's a hundred percent deflection.
This amendment that Ted Cruz did propose, which would have given legal status to undocumented immigrants, was meant at the time as a poison pill.
It was meant to try to kill the entire bipartisan legislation.
But Cruz is having some trouble kind of squaring what he said at the time with what he is saying now.
If you go back to the statements he made at the time, because he was trying to get that passed, he argued for it.
Even though the dirty little secret was what he was arguing for was something that would have just mucked up the entire piece of legislation.
So CNN.
CNN managed to swerve into the truth there.
And CNN today is attempting to solve the argument in favor of Ted Cruz.
And I just wanted to play that bite for you as a uh way of making a comparison to the way this is being treated.
It is, I don't know how much attention you pay to uh intra-party things and how deeply you read and and watch and listen.
But but she's right, this it this has set off a huge in the weeds uh debate about this.
But that's it now.
Okay, so that's pretty much what happened.
Her contention, I find this interesting that she is going ahead and acknowledging that Cruz's amendment from the get-go was a poison pill.
And there are some on our side who said, wait, no, man, Ted Cruz might want you to think that now, but it wasn't then, because he argued for it and he was out saying that he really wanted the legislation to pass.
Because he wanted to be able to say, like now during a presidential race, that he was participant in reform legislation that passed.
He thought that would look good on his resume and so forth.
And the poison pill is a fallback position.
But at least from the Cruise camps side, they've got CNN saying, yeah, it was a poison pill from the get-go, but his problem is that he made it look like he was really for it.
But they're accusing Rubio of deflection.
So that's that.
Uh I've had a story here in the stack that I have intended to get to the past couple of days, and I finally ran out here and and and grabbed it.
Doesn't have any relationship to anything.
I figured why not just go ahead and do it.
It's from Newsweek.
And let me just read the opening couple of paragraphs.
It's the best way to tell you why this is grabbed my attention.
The world sucks right now.
Terrorism, climate change, political acrimony, nonstop Justin Bieber songs.
It's nice to know that Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos have a plan.
They're going to help the richest people in the world go to Mars and start over, leaving the other 99% of us to suffer on a dying planet.
The only solace for those of us left here will be that Justin Bieber should be prosperous enough to go with them and leave Earth.
This is the unspoken flip side of Musk's SpaceX and Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin.
The space travel company say they're creating a way for the human species to endure by populating other planets.
But the bottom line is only the wealthy will have the means to move to Mars.
Elon Musk's target ticket price is $500,000 a person in 2015 dollars.
And that's just to get there.
Imagine the new outfit you'll have to buy to go with that space helmet.
Imagine what housing is going to cost you.
So you can picture a scenario that's something like the 1970s white flight from inner cities when the wealthier classes moved to freshly built suburbs, leaving the declining neighborhoods to the lower classes.
In fact, the fleeing upper classes Sped up the decrepitude of that era's older cities by relocating their money in clout with them.
See, hidden in this story, you may think this is about going to Mars, and it is.
But in this story is an all-out assault on white racists who fled the inner cities and went out to suburbia and cultivated it and developed it and created very iconic, idyllic neighborhoods and leaving everybody behind to suffer in smog and pollution and filth and homelessness.
And of course, it has the obligatory racial component, too, by describing it as white flight.
And if you keep going on this, you find out that one of Obama's plans from the get go of his administration has been to.
Stanley Kurtz has written it, written about this, we've mentioned it to you.
The federal government is going to assume zoning duties and other regulatory responsibility for suburbia.
And one of the things they're doing is already changing the makeup of neighborhoods.
Well to do neighborhoods in suburbia, if Obama gets his way, and it won't be long before we know, will have to allow for the building of quote unquote affordable housing right next door to where they live.
And people from the inner cities forget the racial company.
We're just talking about the poor, are going to be bust out to suburbia and moved into their new housing right in the neighborhood where you live or somebody else lives right next door.
It's Obama's way of getting even with people who fled the cities and started and built up the suburbs.
The story is built around idolatry and respect for Elon Musk and Bezos who want to go to Mars for the same reason.
They are castigated and ripped for doing it in such a way that only the 1% can ever go.
But there's another aspect of this story that, aside from the attack on suburbia, which is clear, and by the way, not making any of this up.
I mean, this is something in the process of happening.
And for all I know, there are things in this budget, there probably are, if we would dig deep.
I mean, it's 2,000 pages.
I'll bet you there are things in this budget that further along facilitate Obama's plans to repopulate the suburbs.
With people who can't live there on their own.
If you can't afford to live there on your own, that's where you're going to go.
The regime is going to make sure you have place to live there.
They're going to force local zoning to rezone so that affluent neighborhoods have to have these housing projects built, basically, right next to their properties.
And I'll just bet you it's in the budget.
But the other thing about this is, I believe whoever wrote this actually means this.
The world sucks right now.
Terrorism, climate change, political acrimony, nonstop Justin Bieber songs.
Are they really serious that these two guys are going to be able to colonize Mars and So I think, you know, I read my tech blogs.
This is a big subject in the tech blogs.
And these people all believe this is just right around the corner.
Elon Musk, who can't manage more than two hours of charge on one of his electric cars is somehow going to repopulate Mars for $500,000 a person.
We don't even know if there's any water up there.
You know, sometimes the the dreams and the fantasies that people conjure as reality, it's scary.
These people also vote.
Colonize Mars?
I mean, maybe in some, but the whole Stephen Hawking, too.
These people are doing it on the basis that this is a dying planet because of climate change.
They really believe these Uber intelligent entrepreneurs, they really believe that the planet's dying, and they really believe it's because of climate change, and They really believe we have got a very short amount of time left.
And you can put Stephen Hawking at the front of the list of people that think that.
And Hawking is considered what?
The smartest man alive?
And where are they going to relocate us to a dead planet?
Because they think this one is on its way.
Wouldn't they want to try to find a place where aliens already live?
I mean, because all the aliens that they imagine are ten times smart as we are.
They've gotten rid of all nuclear weapons.
They're able to travel at two times the speed of light without using up any energy.
Why don't we try to find where that place is and go there?
Who what a hell wants to go to Mars for crying out loud?
No, no, no.
I mean these guys think by 2040 that there will be colonial towns on Mars.
Twenty-five years from now.
Twenty-five years from now.
Do you know how much it costs to send a single astronaut into orbit on a space shuttle?
Two hundred million dollars.
Even if you factor in at government waste as part of this inefficiency, there's no way Musk or anybody else is gonna.
Who's gonna build the colony that the people live in once they get there?
This is I don't know, folks.
I'm I'm missing something.
It was twenty-five years ago, Bill Clinton wasn't even running for president.
I mean, it goes by like lickety split.
Twenty-five years Mars colonies.
Crock.
Speaking of crocs, here's Obama tried to interrupt this program at one o'clock today, but we didn't fall for it.
Went to the National Counterterrorism Center, met with the intelligence guys and came out and had a meeting with the media, talk about what we're facing, what we're doing, how everything's okay, don't sweat it.
Here's a portion of what he said.
With groups like ISIL trying to radicalize people to violence, especially online.
Part of our meeting today focused on how we can continue to strengthen our partnership between law enforcement, high-tech leaders, communities, faith leaders, and citizens.
That's Hoggle.
We've got to keep on building up trust and cooperation that helps communities inoculate themselves from the kind of propaganda that ISIL's spewing out, preventing their loved ones, especially young people, from succumbing to terrorist ideologies in the first place.
Now that's folks, this is just godbloody gook.
See, this is what we talked about intelligence yesterday, and Trump doesn't have any, and all these intellectuals are th this guy passes for brilliance in in Washington, in political circles, academic circles.
Well part of our meeting today focuses on how we continue to strengthen our partnership between law and what a partnership with law enforcement?
What was it just can you speak English?
Our partnership with high tech leaders.
You already are partner.
Google is running everything you want to do.
And partnership with our communities.
You're at odds with communities.
Well, this is partnership business.
Faith leaders?
Faith leaders don't trust you, other than Reverend Wright.
Neither do citizens, have you seen your approval numbers?
And we got to keep on building up trust and cooperation that helps communities inoculate themselves?
From ISIL propaganda.
He means we have to inoculate Muslim communities from extremism.
Well, there's only one way to do that, but you're not gonna get me to say it.
As I want to be here tomorrow.
David in Pittsburgh, welcome to the EIV network.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, nice to talk to you.
Great, sir.
I'm glad you called, sir.
Yes.
Uh quick question.
Do you think that uh Trump do you think it's even possible that he could get the nomination?
No matter how much they polish him up between now and then.
Do you think that that that's even possible?
Yeah.
It's r uh uh let me tell you something.
It's closer to reality than anybody ever thought, and all that has to happen is that he has to get a majority of the delegates.
And the delegates are portioned by virtue of the vote.
And there's I just wanted to ask one more quick thing, Russ.
Sorry to interrupt you, But uh a brokered convention.
Could you explain that a little bit?
Because I I really don't know what that means.
Well, a brokered convention is basically where the powers that be get together and light cigars in tradition, the old smoke-filled room, and then they start plotting ways to take the party and convention away from the voters and delegates because they don't like what the voters have done and the way the delegates are apportioned.
So they get together, and brokering it means breaking it.
They actually want to try to tear down the democratic process that has preceded the convention and relegate the democratic results to the ash heap instead of it while they then put the party back together as they, and we're talking could be anywhere from 10 to 50 people in the smoke-filled room.
Um it's by the bylaws, currently, it's not legal.
It could not happen.
A brokered convention is just a bunch of talk.
I I wouldn't put anything past the establishment trying to save itself.
Uh but that's essentially what a brokered convention is.
But the a Trump nomination here is clearly within eyesight.
I mean, it's that's that's the sobering uh reality.
But I know where you're going.
I've got a key word in his question, I'll explain in a minute.
Okay, our last caller's question will Trump be allowed.
You think Trump be allowed to win the nomination?
He's bouncing off the fact that I once said the Democrats are no way going to allow Bernie Sanders to be the Democrat nominee.
And so I need to clarify and explain what I mean.
In case Bernie Sanders is not being allowed, they're not going to permit like they're doing.
There's no debates that anybody watches.
Um there is there's there's no opportunity for Bernie Sanders to grow and raise money.
Uh secure delegates within their process.
I mean, the next Democrat debate's Saturday night.
And you know what else is on Saturday night?
The Jets and the Cowboys.
Now, the Cowboys and the Steelers are the two most watched teams in the NFL.
The Cowboys can be O and 14 going in.
It doesn't matter.
People are going to watch that game.
Nobody's going to watch the Democrat debate.
Nobody's going to go out of their way to watch it.
The last time they had a debate on Saturday night, it ended seven minutes early because they ran out of things to talk about.
This whole idea of a brokered convention actually stems from not too long ago.
A lot of people may not know this, but it wasn't that long ago that nominees were actually not chosen until the convention started.
There weren't primaries.
I mean, some states had them, but they were not official in terms of assigning delegates.
It used to be this is why every night of convention night or week was televised.
And it's why they went on for four and five days.
It's because the candidate, the nominee, was chosen at the convention.
Speeches, votes, backroom deals, smoke-filled and otherwise.
And so the idea of a brokered convention is actually just a link back to those days where powers that be don't like what the primary system has produced and try to take matters into their own hands and do get rid of it.
But the the way the rules, the laws that the parties have written to conduct their selection process of brokered conventions are practically impossible to happen now.
And the primary reason is that a nominee is chosen by all these primaries, and there's been a lot of money spent and a lot of delegates chosen, and to go in there and try to take that away and deny the Democratic process would create more havoc and hell than anybody could imagine.
Ben Carson talked about this.
He said he'll leave the party if they try any kind of shenanigans to deny the winner the nomination.
So there's not much.
I mean, the question can you see Trump actually being a nominee?
Yeah.
It's right there in front of everybody's face.
But see, all this is going to change once actual primaries and caucuses begin to happen.
And one vote.
Everybody's going on polling data now.
So we're long way from the nominee having been chosen.
The Democrats is a lock.
I mean, that's done.
They have secured the nomination for Hillary this time.
They have made sure that no Obama type figure joins the fray.
And Martin.
Hillary is already...
The lock.
By the way, one of the things Obama said in his um little meeting with the press when he came out after having met the Intel guys at the National Counter-terrorism center.
He again assured us that there is no threat against the United States.
It's exactly what he said.
Shortly before the San Bernardino massacre.
He also said that any refugee coming from Syria will continue to get the most rigorous screening of any screening in the world.
He said any refugee coming from the U.S. will coming to the U.S. will continue to get the most intensive scrutiny of any arrival.
There's no way it's not possible.
These people are not part of a database.
The only thing we can do is interview them.
Are you a terrorist?
No.
No way.
I've never blown up anything in my life, and I never intended it.
Fine.
Come on in.
Have you ever engaged in terrorism or have you thought about it?
No.
No way.
I've insulted you and even ask.
What would make you think that?
Fine.
Come on in.
That's it.
It isn't much more than that.
We ask them about their religion, because we have to.
If they're fleeing religious persecution, we have to know what it is.
Anyway, Jeff in Mesa, Arizona.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
You're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Thank you, Rush.
Merry Christmas.
Same to you, sir.
Hey, uh, I've been listening for 50, 60 years, both sides screaming, we have to get money out of politics.
Yeah.
We finally did a candidate that doesn't need money from the groups from the super packs, anybody.
He's using his own money, and both sides are going after him with pitchforks.
Finally, we get somebody that doesn't need money, and everybody hates him.
I don't get it.
Well, it's not hard.
They don't really mean it when they say we need to get the money out of politics.
Exactly.
And just it's it's absurd.
And uh I thought that you could make sense of this to people out there, because to me, you're the Donald Trump of radio.
You do it precise and you speak to the people, and that's why we love you.
Well, I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, sir.
I uh I I I think it's more property that Trump is the Rushlin bought politics.
But I'm not gonna haggle with you.
I appreciate the the nice words.
By the way, Jeff, are you still there?
Yes, I am.
Let me ask a quick question.
Vladimir Putin came out pretty much endorsed Trump.
Does that bother you?
Not a bit.
Why not?
Well, because I think that's just uh Vladimir Putin trying to get somebody uh get Trump thrown out of the race.
It's just another pitchfork going after him.
So you don't think Putin means it?
Of course he doesn't mean it.
He wants Hillary in there.
Somebody that can be mocked.
I mean, follow the money.
That's what I've heard all my life.
Yeah.
Well, that's that that's that's true.
Well, the reason I ask is Putin did come out and praise Trump as a smart guy, as a tough guy, as a no nonsense guy.
Uh unstated uh compared to Obama.
And so I've found a couple of places in the media where some Republican establishment sides uh people in the uh establishment figures who go, oh my God, could this be it?
Oh, let this be it.
Let this be the beginning and the end of Trump.
Trump voters are not gonna like it all that a Russian leader has endorsed him all.
They're hoping and praying that this could be the unsuspected, unknown, little tidbit of information, and I frankly don't think it's gonna matter.
The Trump supporters that Putin came out.
In fact, the way things are going for the establishment, at least in the campaign.
My guess is that Trump voters would say, hey, you know what?
I kind of like the fact that Putin's endorsed Trump.
At least Putin's killing terrorists.
At least Putin's uh made an enemy out of ISIS.
We don't seem to be able to do that.
Uh but make no mistake, the establishment's getting a lot of what it wants, folks, in that budget deal.
I mean, they they don't they're not getting the nominee they want here, but they're getting a lot.
They are succeeding.
In the what?
What tax cuts?
This somebody should what tax cuts?
For who?
In the budget deal.
Uh tax well, tax cuts for businesses while they're forced out of business with Obamacare.
I mean, big whoop.
Uh Tom in Greenwich, Connecticut.
Great to have you, sir, on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, how are you?
I'm good.
Um Thank you.
There's been a lot of talk about uh from the media and from the Republican candidates stating that I can't believe Trump would go after uh a terrorist or uh a radical leader's family.
And in 1986, when Mo Mar Gaddafi was the leader of Libya and was causing a lot of problems and blew up a discotech that happened to kill some American soldiers that happened to be there.
Reagan sent uh 30, 40 planes over, bomb Kadopi's compound where he lives, and actually killed uh, I believe it was his young daughter.
So it's not something that leaders don't do.
If you're at war, there is no target off the that should be taken off.
So Ronald Reagan is our standard bearer, well, next to you, but Ronald Reagan is our standard bearer, and Reagan did it.
So I'm all for Trump doing it, and if we had more uh presidents that had the guts to do it, ISIS might have been uh taken off the map already.
Well, I look, I understand uh quite clearly your point.
This really revolves around yet another attempt to distort the point Trump was trying to make.
And this is this is it's quite common.
The Trump voter is a reasonable person with uh decent amount of common sense.
I I'm convinced of that, or they wouldn't they wouldn't be as supportive as they are.
So Trump comes out and says, in the aftermath of San Bernardino, with everything in context here, knowing what we know that the family of the San Bernardino II were involved, Trump is saying we gotta go after them too.
He's his umbrella is we gotta keep America safe, and number two, we've gotta win.
You know, George Pett was right.
The American people love a winner.
Trump talks about two things winning and preserving.
He's into safety, the defense of the country, protecting it, keeping us safe, and winning.
And in that context, people know what he means when he says we need to go after these people's families and so forth.
He people know what that means, and they here come the efforts to try to say that Trump is a wanton murderer who wants to open the doors of innocent family members and start gunning them down if they have any relationship to terrorism.
And everybody knows that's not what Trump means when he says these things.
And in fact, many in the common sense view think that if we're serious about fighting terrorism, we have to fight every avenue and every influence and everybody that's part of a terrorist act.
And the and you're right, it is in our history, the killing of citizens and civilians that used to be how wars were won.
That's how you did it.
Anyway, I don't want to repeat myself.
It's just said enough here over the last couple of weeks, and I got to take a break anyway.
So appreciate the call.
We'll be back in a jiffy.
Don't go away, folks.
Anderson in Orlando, Florida.
Welcome, sir.
Great to have you with us here on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi.
Blessed Ditto's.
Second time from the heart of Florida, right?
Thank you.
I've got want to bring a little uh good cheer in and give you two things I would love to see Donald Trump do.
The uh first is to encourage and suggest to the millennials that he knows that they don't want to live with their parents and uh carpal with their friends and spin all their credit cards up, um, that they want to be successful and rich instead.
And then number two, that he suggests that he knows many, many Democrats that want to switch their parties in the states where they need to, just so they'll be able to vote for him.
That's what you want Trump to talk about.
That's a couple things.
Well, I tell you there's something I want him to weigh in on.
In fact, I may have so hey Donald Bone up on this budget deal.
Soon.
This is huge.
Couple this budget deal with your deal on terrorism and immigration, and there's no stopping you.
But start, get, you know, get go to school, get up to speed in this budget deal and find out this is this is as bad as what any immigration's gonna do.
It's part of it.
How's that?
People think I'm an advisor, I just advised.
Some might say I demanded.
So let me revise it.
Mr. Trump, you know I think it'd be really, really smart at this point if you learn everything I know about that budget deal, and that you get as ticked off about that as you are about the border and immigration and the wall.
There's no stopping you.
How's that?
Okay, we'll see.
I tell you, this is the strangest, busiest, most focused Christmas season I can ever remember on this program.
But we adapt.
It is what it is.
Whatever's required, we do all we can, and then a little more.
We will see you tomorrow on open line Friday.
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