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Dec. 7, 2015 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 7, 2015, Monday, Hour #2
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Okay, so the Republican presidential campaign has uh some fascinating developments over the weekend, including a reported strategy from the guy who runs a Jeb Bush pack by the name of Mike Murphy, and I'm gonna get into that in due course.
But just a couple more sound bites on San Bernardino and Obama's speech last night, while Eid Ferris was on Fox News just moments ago.
Well, a little over an hour ago now.
And remember it was Walid Farris a couple, maybe ten days ago, who pointed out that the reason we don't really hit ISIS is because we are aligned with the Muslim Brotherhood and Syria and Iran.
Obama is.
And Iran wants nothing done to ISIS.
Iran capitalizes from the chaos and the instability in the region brought about by ISIS.
So Walid Farris was brought back by Fox today to try to explain from his standpoint what's going on, what Obama's speech last night meant, uh whether or not we're serious in dealing with ISIS and defeating them.
Uh Walid Ferris is uh the National Defense University professor, and the question he got was this we we heard from the president that we have to be careful about indict or taking violence out on Muslim communities because we know that these are terrorists.
What do you think of those comments, as well as the president saying that we need the Muslim community to stand up against this extremism?
It's the same dilemma that the president has advanced with regard to Iran.
Either you go to war or you do the deal.
No.
In the case of the Muslim community, there are forces in the Muslim community such as the democracy forces, the reform forces, we need to partner with them.
Unfortunately, the administration has been closer to those who are close to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Why?
Because they think that the Muslim Brotherhood are the best defense against Al-Qaeda, not knowing that it's the same ideology at the end of the day.
Well, now that's really assuring.
But I thought Al Qaeda was gone, defeated, having slinked away, or is it slunk away into being a non factor?
But what he's saying is that we do not partner with these moderate Muslim forces.
Because Obama thinks the Muslim Brotherhood is the best defense against Al Qaeda, knowing that Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda are the same ideology at the end of the day.
That's really an indictment from this guy on Obama.
So the next question was, well, you you said that President Obama didn't identify ISIS's ideology.
Is that still because of political correctness?
Because of political calculations, not just correctness.
Because in the case of Arab armies, if the president goes and meet with those leaders, who would be upset in the region?
Iran.
We are bugged down by the Iranian deal because the Iranians don't want Arab Sunni going to uh against ISIS.
If we say Bogdown, can we ever win?
No, we cannot, at least not for the next year.
Meaning we can't win.
We can't defeat ISIS as long as Obama's president, because he's never gonna take them on.
And the reason he's not gonna take them on, Ferris believes that it's because of Obama's association with or alignment with Iran over the uh over the nuclear deal.
And that may well still be a factor.
But a lot of people think this is cynical.
I don't.
I this is intelligence guided by experience saying this.
You know as well as I do.
I mean, the liberal wish list is a long list, but there are things at the top of it.
There Are many at the top that are in close competition, but I would have to say that getting rid of the second amendment, gun control, however they dream of it, is right there at the top of what they want.
Did you see what the New York Times did over the weekend?
The New York Times, only the second time since the early 1900s put an editorial on the front page.
Well, I mean everything on the front page of the editorial now.
But they had an editorial against guns, an editorial demand after San Bernardino demanding more gun control.
And I guarantee that when you hit when you hear even Obama or or leftist media talking about semi-automatic and automatic weapons, you know what they think?
They think these people have machine guns.
The people that were firing guns out there, it still took one pull of the trigger to fire every bullet.
They don't even know the terms.
They are so ignorant about guns.
They don't even know what they're talking about.
They use automatic and semi-automatic and they think they're talking about machine guns.
Machine guns have not been legal in this country in the hands of uh citizens since 1934.
But yet that's what the left thinks an automatic weapon is.
An automatic weapon is not a machine gun.
A machine gun fires more bullets with one pull.
One pull of trigger, bam, bam, bam, bam.
Semi-automatic just reloads automatically, doesn't fire more than one bullet at a time.
Automatic ditto.
They don't even know what they're talking about.
But as such, so do a lot of other people.
Average ordinary citizens not know what they're talking about.
But nobody at the San Bernardino attack used machine guns.
Besides that, they had pipe bombs.
They were building IEDs, they were things.
Look, everybody that knows what they're talking about has said that the most stringent gun control laws that have been proposed, whatever they are, the ones that are not even law yet, would not have stopped any of this.
You really think we're going to have an anti-pipe bomb law?
We already do.
You can't have pipe bombs.
It's like I've I've told this story a couple times.
I first time I went to Sacramento when I was interviewing for the job there at KFBK.
Since 1984, I land, I do the interview.
I'm on the way out of town.
Get to the Sacramento Airport, and you go to the departing flights, and there's this series of signs, things that you cannot carry with you beyond that point, and they've got a picture of a bomb.
Like a cannon ball with a fuse coming out of it.
I say, really?
Who carries bombs to no bombs permitted?
As though somebody carrying a bomb would see this.
Oh my God, I'm not allowed to get a bomb.
I must go to the rest of the room and get rid of it.
It's absurd.
Anyway, you can't.
It just it makes no sense to listen to.
But you know that they're they're hellbent on it.
That's why, folks, I'm telling you, I think Obama's lack of interest or animation in this is as much about getting gun control in this country and having you demand it.
I don't think it's working.
Don't worry, I don't think it's working.
The evidence that it isn't working, the evidence that San Bernardino did not work.
Well, the evidence that it had worked would be plain.
If there was a clamor, say on social media or elsewhere, to do something about guns, not just from the usual places like the New York Times and MSNBC, the rest of the left is media.
If it were broad-based, it would have been deemed successful.
But it wasn't.
And so the the the regime has moved on now.
They sent Loretta Lynch out there today.
Do you see this, snertly?
The United States Department of Justice is going to take over the Chicago Police Department.
They made that announcement today.
Well, they didn't say it that way.
They're going to conduct an investigation into this shooting it took place on.
By the way, if you are African American and you have a family member that has been shot dead in Chicago the last two or three years, this is not about any of that.
They're not trying to get to the bottom because they're not investigating civilians.
They're investigating the Chicago Police Department.
It's an investigation of the Chicago Police Department.
And the Chicago Police Department is not killing African Americans in the neighborhoods.
gangs are.
So they announced an investigation to go out, and this is, by the way, this is a big slap at Rahm Emanuel.
I mean, it's a huge, I mean, this is Obama's first chief of staff.
But they have to change the subject quickly because they didn't get the national reaction from San Bernardino that they live in wait for.
No, no, don't misunderstand.
It's not they had anything to do with San Bernardino.
I'm just saying, whenever these events happen, they're not that troubled by it because they're hoping that you will demand Obama go do something about guns.
Just like when Obamacare fails and implodes on itself like it's doing, that you will demand it be fixed.
You want the government to fix it.
Single payer, just put one person, one government charge it, be done with it.
That way it happens, and you think you made it happen, rather than they think, rather than you think they took it over.
Same thing here.
So there's a but anyway, a multiple multiple options here for why Obama seems less than engaged when it comes to ISIS ISIL, uh, what have you?
Yeah, let me take a break here.
We'll come back.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I just found one more thing.
I want to uh two things.
The no fly list.
I mentioned this last week.
You know, Obama's out talking about he doesn't understand how people can get guns and not be on the no-fly list.
And he wants Congress to pass a law that's saying that anybody on a no-fly list can't get a gun.
That's sneaky.
That is one of the most upfront attacks on due process and civil rights ever, because the no fly list, there's nothing democratic about it.
It's totally.
It's a man-made list.
You know, the 72 members of the Homeland Defense Department on the no-fly list.
Did you know that?
72 employees of the Homeland Security Department are on the no-fly list.
And the two and the San Bernardino 2 were not on the no-fly list.
The San Obama even in his own speech, his own prompter lied to him last night.
Did you know this?
About the visa thing.
Can you imagine Obama's prompter lied to him?
Obama said last night that the San Bernardino II.
He indicated that Tosh Fien Malik.
This must have been some babe.
I mean, they're dumping everything on her.
This guy, uh Said Farouk, this guy apparently was so henpecked.
The only thing he did behind her back was zip up her burqa.
This guy is being made out to be the biggest linguini spine coward ever, and this babe was the radical, and she was the one that tipped him over the edge.
She was the one that got really radical.
She was the one with all the hate.
She was the one that transferred the hate to him.
She was the one that made it all happen.
In fact, there's even a story that when they got to the place they shot up, that she just went in there firing.
But old Saeed was a little unsure of himself, and he didn't start firing right off the bat.
She had to yell at him to get in gear.
Well, anyway, Obama said that Tosh Feen Malik came to the country under a visa waiver.
But she didn't.
She arrived under a K-1 fiance visa.
As a citizen of Pakistan, she was not eligible for a 90-day visa waiver.
So the White House had to correct Obama's own pre-written and apparently unvetted speech last night.
But you know it's got to be bad in the White House when even Obama's own teleprompter decides to sabotage him.
Now about the no-fly list.
Do you know who was not on the no-fly list?
Said Farouk and Tashfin Malak or Malik were not on the no-fly list, according to CNN.
They were not on any list tied to potential terrorists in the United States.
And yet there's Obama talking about how there's no way the people on the no-fly list should be getting weapons.
There need to be a law.
Well, they weren't even on the no-fly list.
And 72 Homeland Security Department employees are.
Sit tight, coming back much more after the meeting and surpassing all audience expectations every day.
Your guiding light, Rush Limbaugh, back to the phones.
Denville, New Jersey.
It's Alan, great to have you, sir.
Hi.
Hi, good afternoon, Russia.
How are you?
Good.
Good.
Okay, so uh just quick to the point.
Um, you mentioned before when you were discussing how President Obama had started more using the term ISIL and and staying away from ISIS.
And I think the reason behind that, and I also will back it up from what I I I recall hearing him say last night in a speech was that ISIS, of course, Islamic state in Syria.
Now Syria is something that happened way after uh President Bush left office.
I ISIL is has the word Iraq in it.
So it's a it's an inference to try to sort of pin the creation of Isla Islamic State during the period uh of Iraq before President Obama came into office.
And during the speech last night, I think it was around the 15 to 20 minute mark somewhere in there, President Obama mentioned something about that that the U.S. has all has dealt with I uh I Islamic State already during the Iraq insurgency, and as I best recall, uh ISIS was not in it was not a factor at that point.
We never heard of them, and the insurgency happened during the tail end of the Bush administration.
So I'm just wondering what your thoughts are that maybe it's uh you know it's it's a tack to sort of push it off back again to the previous administration.
Well I actually reject that for only one reason.
You may be right that that's what he's doing, but that requires a level of deep understanding and sophistication on the part of his average voters that just doesn't exist.
I mean, everything you just said, I guarantee you, most liberals and democrats are hearing it for the first time.
I think most people are what is this ISIL?
Why does he keep calling it ISIL?
It's ISIS.
Why is he and they're not saying, well, that's because ISIS, he can pin to Bush, but ISIL he can't, so he doesn't want to.
I I I just don't think that he I don't think anybody in the regime even thinks that that people are are going to think of uh in these terms.
I think there's a totally different reason for this.
Um I don't know how to say it.
But well, it it it does when you uh Snerdly is asking me, doesn't it have something to do with Israel?
Yeah, because the Levant is the entire region.
ISIS stands for the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, or Iraq and Syria, that's the IS, and ISIL, the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant includes more than Iraq and Syria.
It would include Israel, which to these people.
Israel is a fraud.
Israel doesn't deserve to be there.
That's all Palestine.
And that's what I think is behind the pronunciation, this insistence that it be called ISIS.
He's the only one that does it.
His regime does.
I mean, others in the in the regime do.
But nowhere, even the media calls it ISIS.
But he sticks with ISIL.
And because I think he's got a different audience for the term, I don't think he's talking to American people.
Like He's talking to Iran.
We just heard Waleed Farris say that Obama's linkage here is not to oppose ISIL, because Iran supports ISIL, and it's all to do with the sectarian violence between the Sunnis and the Shiites, and the fact that Iran capitalizes on this sectarian violence, does not want it solved because they hope to end up controlling the entire Levant.
Ah, sir, region!
Didn't mean to say that.
So I you your your explanation makes total sense if people were attuned, the American people domestically were attuned to when ISIS began, when it didn't began.
I could be wrong about this.
Very rare that I would be wrong, but it's possible.
But I think the American people are so far beyond Bush did it and this and that.
I mean, Bush is eight years ago now, seven years.
They know Bush had nothing to do with San Bernardino.
He had nothing to do with Fort Hood.
People know that when Bush was president, this stuff didn't happen.
People know that when Bush was president, there wasn't an ISIS.
ISIS and all of this happens to coincide with the with the election of Barack Hussein oh.
But the use of the word Levant has an audience in the Middle East.
He's not talking to us on that.
As I looked it up, ISIL has been the official United States government designation of the group since May of 2014.
Now, I originally found that it was an Obama executive order mandating that the official name of ISIS be ISIL back in May of 2014, and then I found something contradicted that from the State Department.
It seems that the State Department has amended uh the Obama executive order.
It's it's I didn't have much time to read it, and it's in that legal government ease that they write in.
So it doesn't matter who did it.
The point is that, according to the government, the group's official government designated name since May of 2014 is ISIL.
Now Jean-Francois Cherry, our Secretary of State, calls them Deesh.
They have a third name, Deish.
And he does that to sound more like the French.
That's what the French call it.
But the uh the bottom line is it's it's ISIS.
ABC News found a picture of the loving couple at Customs entering the country.
The image was taken as the as the loving couple, now known as the San Bernardino II, moved through customs at O'Hare in July 27, 2014.
And it shows Tashfin Malik clad in all black, looking directly into the camera, as her husband Saeed Rizwan Farouk climate change stands behind her, blackbearded and with a blank expression.
They both have blank expressions.
They're staring at the camera.
I mean, well, I say blank, knowing who they are, you can see disgust on their faces or they don't look happy to be arriving or showing up here.
So as the authorities and others keep digging more and more is being discovered about this.
Well, you know, I this I wonder about this too.
If ever since I have heard that it's the woman here who was calling the shots, it was the woman who was the strong-willed leader, and it was the husband who was this little blind puppy dog following along, getting orders, taking orders, and executing orders.
That doesn't make sense with what we've been told about the way women are treated in Islam.
The normal we've been told is that women do not get anywhere near this kind of power.
However, however, keep in mind that this is a stark difference.
These are agents.
These are operatives who have been assigned with a mission.
And I I would venture to say that in this couple, the handlers have assessed who it is that's stronger of the two and has bestowed upon her as an agent the uh responsibility for leading the entire thing.
So I uh because this is in it it is, it's in stark contrast to what we're told is the role of women in Islamic society.
They don't get anywhere near this kind of power.
Nowhere near it.
But remember the Soviets had these kind of agents.
The Americanized that were moved to the United States and lived among the natives in the suburbs of Washington.
Kids went to uh American schools, they had jobs, uh American businesses, and and nobody knew they were Soviet agents.
Uh the uh the great writer was Nelson DeMille wrote a great book about this Soviet operation.
I think this is much the same.
This couple is is much the same as that's uh that former Soviet operation.
And it may still exist, by the way.
Remember, we did that on we uncovered that uh that that Anna, whatever name is, lived in New Jersey, the Russian spy, the redhead.
Anyway, Scott Plano, Texas, you're next as we head back to the phones.
It's great to have you on the program, sir.
Hi.
Merry Christmas, Rush.
Same to you, sir.
I have a story from 2003, and of course, this is two years after 9-11 and way before ISIS got started up, but we invited a local mosque that was right near our church over just to uh share their faith with us and and have a question and answer period.
And my question for them, and there was one person there that was uh native Middle Eastern, another guy was actually uh a good old boy East Texas that was raised Baptist and converted to Muslim, so it was kind of an eclectic meeting.
Um we talked about uh my question was to him or to them.
Why haven't the Muslims been speaking up more about 9-11?
Why are they so quiet?
And their response was this.
If we protested, then instead of you being number one target, we would become number one target, and therefore that's that explains our silence.
And of course, my internal thought was, well, gee, I guess I know what side you're on.
I didn't say that out loud, but like George Bush said, and it's been said before, and it'll be said after, that if you're not with us, then you're against us.
Well, there's one thing though.
Uh some of them have a point.
Um the militant Islamists, the jihadists kill far more Muslims than anybody else.
They feel are infidels or not serious, not following the tenets of the faith.
I mean, look what's going on in Syria.
Who do you think's dying there?
Who do you think they're killing in Iraq?
It's Sunni versus Shia is is a part of it.
Uh I can I can understand I can understand that too uh to an extent, but it's also a convenient reason, is it not?
Yeah, it is an excuse of convenience.
And we were actually invited to the mosque, and they gave us a Quran, and I read it from cover to cover, and there are some very disturbing things in there, and I have a potential solution if you want to hear it.
We're standing by.
What is it?
I would suggest that the Muslims list every verse in the Bible that they have a problem with and allow the churches to respond as to what it really means.
Um, and then we can do the same thing.
We'll identify parts of the Quran that we find troubling and let them Respond.
Um, for example, in the Old Testament, you know, when the Israelites were shown the promised land, they were told to wipe out everybody that lived there.
But that was a one-time thing in the Old Testament.
It was not looking forward to say you need to kill every non-Jew or non-Christian in the world.
Um, but now wait, wait, wait, wait just a second.
Here we're we're starting to mix apples and oranges here.
Uh the Israelites were being uh liberated from bondage.
Uh, for one thing.
Uh how however uh your idea sounds like the way the Republicans want to operate in Washington.
You know, well, let's get together in a room and let's discuss our differences and see if we can't find some common ground.
And and the problem today is there isn't any common ground between the left and right in this country.
And the the problem that you're gonna have with that, with your idea, is that it if you've read the Quran, you know this.
There's only one belief, and anybody doesn't subscribe to it's an infidel.
There's no compromise here.
This is a seventh century belief that is being implemented and acted upon here.
There is no common ground.
There is no overlapping understanding here.
And it's the the only objective is to either convert or face death.
And that's what people, I don't think, understand.
I don't think that's what people are willing to admit, even if they do understand, don't want to admit it, goes against human nature, compromise, understanding, tolerance is all part of human nature.
This doesn't fit, so people just don't want to believe it.
But if you've read the Quran, you know that what is happening here is right in it.
It is not being perverted, it's not being bastardized, as Obama says.
It's being followed.
And I've I've told, I don't know how many times I've told the story, and I've had the guy on the program, Andy McCarthy.
If you've heard this, bear with me because some haven't.
Andy McCarthy used to work as a United States attorney, uh, assistant United States attorney in the Manhattan office, the Southern District of New York.
It was his job.
He was the lead prosecutor of the blind Sheikh, Omar Abdel Rahman, back in 1993, 94, 95.
Omar Abdel Rachman had a mosque in New Jersey in which he was advocating the blowing up of the uh the Lincoln Tunnel and the Holland Tunnel and a couple of other bridges and some other landmarks.
And he had a bunch of followers that were attempting to implement what he was putting into place.
Anyway, he was caught, was put on trial.
What Andy did to prepare for the trial was to read the Quran.
He wanted to find he thought he was dealing with a kook.
Thought he was dealing with a real extremist wacko in Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman.
So he read the Quran.
His intent was to find out how Omar Abdel Rahman was off the mainstream tech.
And he was shocked.
I mean, and he's written books about this.
He was stunned because he found out that Omar Abdel Rachman was not an extremist and was not off the beaten path.
He was following the Quran.
He was a mainstream believer in the Quran.
It shook him up.
It woke him up, it scared the heck out of him, and it shaped the way he conducted the trial, and we end up, he ended up getting a conviction.
But he, like everybody else, thought that these people, the terrorists, the terrorist leaders, the imams, were kook radical offshoots.
And he found out they're not.
And that's why it's so frustrating to people who know to listen to Obama and his administration talk about how a great religion is being perverted or bastardized or what have you.
The fact of the matter is it isn't.
It's being followed.
And it's the only book they read, And they read it all the time.
They don't allow outside influences.
Other than to form and inform their hatred and their opposition to what they don't believe in and what isn't them.
And that's what makes this so serious.
It's why this is as crucial as it is.
We're not dealing with radical extremist offshoots.
This is you've heard about the Wahhabi version of Islam in the Saudi in Saudi Arabia.
Um it's mainstream.
And Saudi Arabia, the royal family of Saudi Arabia, is the official what's the how can I phrase this?
No, uh uh the exact title, but they are responsible for the belief and the purity and the implementation of Islam worldwide.
Royal family, the Saudi royal, the king of Saudi Arabia is the grand puba of it all.
Whoever he is, from time to time.
Anyway, I'm a little bit long here.
I must take a brief time out.
We'll be back after this.
You ever heard, as an illustration, have you heard Barack Obama claim that Wahhabiism or Wahhabism does not reflect true Islam.
I mean, many people call Wahhabi Islam.
That's really way out there.
I mean, that isn't it's mainstream Islam in Saudi Arabia.
The Saudi royal family is the guardian of Islam.
In the book, the king of Saudi Arabia is in title and name the guardian, protector, enforcer, chief implementer, however you want to think of it.
And for all of the different sectarian violence there is and disagreement, uh, you you never hear Obama address any of the variations of it.
He only goes after terrorist groups and claims that they are not.
Where are the terrorists being terror-oriented?
It's in the mosques.
It is all of this comes from Islam.
It's not this stuff that then finds its way into Islam.
In other words, Islam's not sitting here minding its own business all of a sudden a bunch of radical terrorists start up and try to find their way and force their way into the mosques and into the religion.
It's the other way around.
It's an outbound process.
And the Wahhabists are at the top of the charts in believing that those who do not follow the dictates, the infidels, are to be killed.
They're not to be persuaded.
They're not well, if it can be converted, fine, but that takes a lot of proof.
That sounds extreme to me.
Sentencing to death people that don't agree with your religion.
That sounds pretty.
Anyway, folks, this is what it is, and and this is where it becomes tough because people just don't want to face this.
This is something, oh my God, if that's true, gosh, I don't want to have to deal with that.
That means that that's that's like a call to arms.
That's you can't just accept that and ignore it and go about your day when something like San Bernardino happens.
And a lot of people still do not want to face it.
After 9-11, they didn't want to face it.
A tough thing to believe because there's nothing comparable like it in this country.
Anyway, Stephen in Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, hi.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Good to be here, Russ.
Uh, been listening a long time, and I'm a big fan of the show.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
Okay, uh, I think you missed the mark a little bit on why uh Barack won't call this uh Islamic extremism, if you'd like to hear that.
Sure.
Um now uh he wasn't once now.
Think about this.
Now, this this person who carried out this terrorist attack in uh San Bernardino is this supposedly heavy American living out the American dreams, um, college educated, and uh looking for the government, even.
And he can be persuaded to do this at what in just a short period of time.
This opens up the doors basically for every Muslim that's uh practicing Muslim in this country to actually be converted equally as well.
And if you think about the ramifications for that, that would be um, for instance, profiling of every Muslim in this country.
Uh excuse me.
What do you think about that?
Okay, this is this is my fault.
I I'm gonna have to I'm out of time for one thing, so I'm gonna have to read the transcript of of what you said to get to your point, and I'll do that and I'll comment on it when we get back, because I wasn't able to hear everything you said and follow it.
It's my bad, not your problem.
Back after this.
Okay, last caller was saying the reason Obama won't call it Islamic extremism is because if he did, it would show that any normal red-blooded American Islam or Muslim who's here following the American dream and living a happy life can be converted.
Now that's that's a good point, I will concede, but it is not why they don't call it Islamic extremism.
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