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May 7, 2015 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 7, 2015, Thursday, Hour #2
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No, no, no.
See, one of the problems is that Tom Brady would not turn over his telephone so that they can look at the text messages and emails.
It might have been back and forth between him and the equipment guys.
Now, he did sit for a one-hour interview with his agent.
The agent recorded everything that happened.
And they said he was cooperative and forthcoming, but they wanted his phone.
He would not give him the phone.
Ted Wells said, look, your lawyer can pull off only texts and emails related to this thing.
We don't care if there are pictures of your wife on your phone.
We don't care about any of that.
And we'll let your lawyer go through and harvest the data relevant to our investigation.
Brady said no.
Well, in a circumstantial case, which is what this is, that has given rise to suspicion because the question, okay, what is he hiding?
And let's not forget this.
Do not, folks, when it comes to the media and everybody, there is something that didn't get a whole lot of notice.
It was remarked upon, but it didn't get a whole lot of notice.
Recently, the Super Bowl champion Patriots went to the White House to be treated and hosted by President Obama, and Brady didn't go.
And it is known why he didn't go.
He didn't go because Josh Ernest, in one of these White House press briefings, had made a joke about DeflateGate.
And Brady takes this allegation that he's a cheater very seriously.
He says, screw it.
I'm not going.
This is the report anyway.
And then, you know, that's insulting enough to drive by media.
That was a direct insult to Obama.
Okay, the next opportunity we have to go get Brady, we're going to take it.
Well, here it is.
And then it's been reported that Brady, you know, he had a great day past Saturday.
He and his buddies chartered a plane.
They went to the Kentucky Derby after the Derby.
They went to Vegas to the fight.
And it's been learned that Steve Wynn, who's not a big fan of Obama's, had a little confab with Brady where they bonded over the fact that neither of them like Obama.
That's the news anyway.
Forget what it's true, who knows?
So drive-bys see all of this.
And they see Brady dissing Obama, not going to the White House, getting together with Steve Wynn.
Steve Wynn open about his disgust for Obama.
You put it all together, but this still doesn't explain why we're here.
It doesn't explain why this situation is at this point.
And you're going to have people with all kinds of reactions.
Some are saying, come on, Brady can't be the only one.
All these quarterbacks have to do this.
Others are saying, it's got to be a suspension.
There's got to be some sort of penalty.
It can't just be a fine.
They got to suspend him for a couple games.
If you're looking at this cavalierly like this is just another infraction that the NFL has to deal with, you need to change the way you're thinking about it.
This is much bigger.
Despite what you may think, this is bigger than Ray Rice in terms of its potential damage to the league, and they know it.
And you can't take Spygate out of this.
And by that, I mean, you've got a lot of people who may think the Patriots still haven't paid the right price for that.
You've got people who think that the Patriots steal radio signals.
You've got people, I'm telling you, you have people who think the Patriots stole a Seahawks play call radio signal last play of the Super Bowl knew what was coming.
You've got people, I don't know, I'm not saying in the league, say you've got people who think the Patriots are routine cheaters and Spygate didn't get anywhere near exposing it and that the league knows it and they're trying to take all kinds of steps to uncover it all and root it out and just be done with it because it's a cloud.
My point is, whether any of this is true is, well, it's not irrelevant, but it need not have arrived.
I still can't, I can't quite understand, and I'm sorry for the redundancy.
I've said this three times already, but I just can't understand how the league allowed it to get to this point.
It's not good to have all this speculation out there.
You might think, hey, man, anything talking about the league, man, this is cool.
All this intrigue, it just makes people more curious about the league.
Maybe, maybe so.
But I have to think the people that own teams and run the league really don't want people speculating about whether there's rampant cheating.
You don't want records and trophies and stuff to be questioned in terms of legitimacy.
Particularly, this league, the NFL, was the pinnacle of professional sports.
It was at the top of the mountain.
It was, and still is.
But I mean, in terms of integrity and respect, image, it's taken some hits in recent years because of the culture, the players, some of the infractions off-field that these guys have been caught getting into, and even some on-field stuff.
So we'll see.
It's just kind of, it's unfortunate.
Now the drive-bys, I tell you, folks, they just, let me play some more of these soundbites for you as they just dump on Brady.
Here's Bill Roden.
This is, we're up to soundbite three, CBS this morning, sports columnist for the New York Times, Charlie Rose.
So what's the worst thing about this, Bill?
Well, the worst thing about it is that a guy who's on top of the world, who seems to have everything, great family, a legacy, Super Bowl, still feels so much pressure and the need to cheat.
See, it's concluded now that he cheated.
They're not even considering that he didn't cheat.
And this is a circumstantial case.
I mean, the report says they can't prove anything.
I just read to you.
Look, where did I, let me find that.
I want to read it.
I read this really hurriedly toward the end of the previous hour.
You just heard Bill Roden there.
He said, well, the worst thing about it is a guy that's on top of the world, seems to have everything, great family, legacy, Super Bowl, still feels so much pressure and the need to cheat.
Here's page 228 of this report.
In sum, that means in total, that means adding everything up.
The data did not provide a basis for us to determine with absolute certainty whether there was or was not tampering, as the analysis of such data ultimately is dependent upon assumptions and information that is not certain.
What do you mean, come on, Rush?
This is Lawyer Reef.
They just put that in there as a CYA.
Keep the lawsuit off of them.
Okay, all right.
So this doesn't mean anything.
See, here we go.
Okay, this doesn't mean what they're saying is we can't prove anything.
The data didn't provide a basis for us to determine what abs.
Okay, so a guy's got to get suspended, be called a cheat, reputation damage forever, and this is just in there for the lawyers.
Okay, well, we'll see.
We shall, we'll see.
Despite that, on page 228, now all the other stuff in there is quite clear, circumstantially, that there was a whole lot of cheating going on out there.
Right?
And the media has already concluded.
So after Roden said, man, it's just a great family, a great legacy Super Bowl still feels the need to cheat.
Charlie Rose said, well, what do you think the punishment's going to be?
I'll tell you what I think it should be.
I think they should suspend him for at least half the season.
At least half the season.
Don't fine him because he has more money than, you know, don't fine him.
Don't make this a financial penalty.
Suspend him, Charlie.
Suspend him for half the season.
What do you think about that?
I like Tom Brady, okay?
What do you think about that?
I've never heard Bill Roden ask anybody what they think and what he thinks.
Bill Roden doesn't care what anybody else thinks, but all of a sudden, what do you think about that, Charlie?
I like Tom Brady.
What's that mean?
I think you're full of it, Bill.
Half the season.
Half the season.
The Miami Herald guy says he's heard it's going to be a whole season.
Half the season.
Here's the owner, Robert Kraft, back in January in Phoenix at the site of the Super Bowl.
If the Wells investigation is not able to definitively determine that our organization tampered with the air pressure in the footballs, I would expect and hope that the league would apologize to our entire team, and in particular, Coach Belichick and Tom Brady for what they have had to endure this past week.
I am disappointed in the way this entire matter has been handled and reported upon.
Well, he's not going to get an apology.
Nowhere near is he getting an apology.
In fact, just the opposite.
Mr. Kraft has reacted to the report by saying, This is incomprehensible because I'm sure he read the excerpt I just read to you on page 228.
That snurdle says it is in there for the lawyers to prevent the lawsuit.
It doesn't really mean anything.
I'm sure he read that, and he said, it's incomprehensible.
But he concluded by saying that whatever happens, we will support.
Whatever the league does, we will deal with it.
After registering his profound shock and dismay that this report could have uncovered this, Peter King, Sports Illustrated, Monday morning quarterback on the Today Show, Savannah Guthrie, said, when you look at the Patriots' Super Bowl victory, they went on to win after all this, you think it has an asterisk by now for a lot of fans?
For a lot of fans, it will, because the Patriots are like the Yankees.
They're like the old Cowboys.
They're a team that America loves to hate.
And I think that is one of the things that people take great delight in the kingpin getting toppled.
And that's why I think people take great delight this morning in looking at Tom Brady and saying that, hey, look, he should get what's coming to him.
So that's an acknowledgement that people are just jealous and feel better when somebody bigger than them gets taken down a peg.
Yes, they did.
Snerdley say nobody hated the old Cowboys.
They sure as hell.
People hated the Steelers.
In the 70s, the Steelers were a machine.
My dad hated the Steelers.
He hated it because they were just a machine.
They're so damn good.
They're superhuman.
People hated the Cowboys.
I'm not, the hatred of the Patriots, I'm telling you, it's tied to Spygate and Belichick and the hoodie and all this.
But this is the kind of stuff.
Normally, this fuels fan passion in a game, which is cool.
That's all good, but this isn't.
I just, I don't know.
If I owned the Patriots, if I ran the league, this is not the kind of stuff that I would want the league to be known for.
No, we're not going to get stories on how cheating is sometimes good.
And if you've got small hands and still have a supermodel wife and still need an underinflated football, it's okay.
No, we're not going to get stories like that.
Particularly because Obama's been dissed in all of this.
I think actually the Patriots defense and the Hillary defense are somewhat similar here.
And that's another thing that I don't know.
Who wants to be associated with the way the Clintons do things?
Now, that got your attention, huh?
Oh, that made you sit up and perk up, huh?
How about that?
There's a guy out there today, an American, in the midst of all this hullabaloo.
And he's shouting.
He's trying to be heard above all this noise.
Say, what about me?
What about me?
And his name is Pete Rose.
He didn't take performance-enhancing drugs.
He didn't beat up his wife, girlfriend, any of the sort.
He's not driven or drawn a cartoon of the prophet, at least I can tell.
What did I mean about the Clinton?
Well, okay, take a look at this.
If Bill Clinton can get away with blaming their accountant at the Clinton Crime Family Foundation, if Bill and Hillary can get away, say, you know, I just work here, man.
Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
Hell yeah, somebody's got to pay the bills here.
If the Clintons can get away with it scot-free, then why can't Brady get away with blaming the Bullboys?
Do you realize more people care about whether or not the footballs in the AFC championship game are underinflated and they care about Democrat vote fraud and care about flooding the country with illegal aliens who are just going to add up to more Democrat Party voters?
That sports is closer to people and they can relate to it more.
And I understand that, but still, sense of proportion.
To the phones we go.
People want to weigh in here.
We're going to start in Indianapolis.
Rose, you're first.
It's great to have you.
Hello.
Rush.
Hello.
I've got a mouthful.
Does anyone think this is the first time that he's involved this kid with deflating these balls?
He thought he was beyond getting caught.
That's why you risk it.
What do you think?
They're in the winning esteem.
Duh.
What do you think?
My cough button was stuck.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, honey.
You might mean to start over.
No, no, I didn't mean to scare you.
Dead air never hurt anybody.
It's okay.
My cough button was stuck.
I was talking.
I didn't even hear myself.
I thought it was wrong.
Only because I am a super professional that I didn't panic and start yelling at the engineer.
I knew I had a button stuck here.
Anyway, you're telling me that you think that Brady has cheated for a long time?
Is that what you mean?
Why do you think he's winning all these games?
Look at Peyton.
I'm asking you.
You think the Patriots, Brady, have been cheating on a lot of things for a long time.
Is that what your point is?
Well, there's no way to prove it, but the way Brady's been acting.
What's that?
How's he been acting?
He won't give up his phone.
He's getting up there and giving these speeches and all this stuff.
I don't believe that for a minute.
All right.
He did deny all this.
He did.
He didn't deny that.
Would you?
Would I what?
Would you deny if you were caught?
I know you wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
Well, I wouldn't do it.
I would.
You know what?
I would not allow it to be done in my name if I knew about it.
I didn't know that either.
If I knew about it.
So I don't.
No, no.
I cannot imagine coming to this microphone with the people of America on the other side and knowingly telling something that I know is going to be proven a lie down the road.
I can't imagine doing that.
Since you asked me, I can't.
But I'm not these guys.
I'm not in that circumstance.
I don't know what's going through their minds.
It could well be that they don't think they've done anything wrong here or that the ball boys ran with instructions that they never got and were just acting on their own like the accountants at the Clinton Foundation apparently have been doing.
Anyway, Rose, I appreciate the call.
There you have it, folks.
I mean, there's no question here.
Not only this, they've been cheating forever.
And they just now happen to be getting caught.
Bob in Chelsea, Michigan.
You're next on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi.
Greetings, dittos from a fellow general aviation traveler.
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate that.
A little inside baseball, but we'll stay there, too.
My comment, the NFL has absolutely no evidence that Brady was involved.
They have nothing.
But we all know how the NFL has become really politically correct.
We know that Brady didn't go to the White House.
We all know how petulant Obama can be when he feels slighted.
I would agree with your point that the word is out.
Brady needs to be punished because not because of Deflategate, but because he insulted Obama.
Now, wait.
I didn't say that that was the reason.
He said the reason why the media partly, partial reason why the media is salivating over this is because they might think he dissed Obama.
But I don't think that's it.
I agree.
You didn't make that point.
You didn't.
You didn't say that he did that.
But I'm saying, you know, I think that the media and everybody and that Obama's not above putting out the word that Brady needs to be punished.
I hadn't even considered that.
As far as you're involving Obama in this.
I did not.
I agree.
All I said was that the media has another reason to pile on because they think Brady dissed their guy.
I agree.
But you, so you, I want to go back to what you said at first.
Zero evidence.
Absolutely no evidence for anything that's in this report.
Yep.
But it's the seriousness of the charge.
Yeah, it is that.
But this, this, do you realize that this investigation has been going on five months?
Yep.
I do.
Five months?
And a lot of people said, why don't they release the results before the draft if there are going to be any penalties and meet the penalties, hand them out before this draft rather than next draft, next season, and so forth.
All right.
Well, I'm glad for your take on this.
Absolutely no evidence in this report other than circumstantial.
Sit tight, my friends.
Many more people want to weigh in, and we're going to eventually wind our way back to Baltimore here.
So hang tough.
We are back.
Rushland Baugh half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
Here's Corky in a truck in Western Pennsylvania.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Hey, Rush, how you doing?
Super trucking, massive petrochemical consuming dittos.
I love it.
Thank you very much, sir.
I just, this thing with the drive-by media and Tom Brady, could some of it be, do you recall back at the beginning of the season when he had two real bad games and everybody started saying that was the end of the Tom Brady and the end of Bill Belichick.
And of course, he gathered it back up, came steamrolling back, ended up winning the Super Bowl.
Do you think that might be some of the angst they have toward him?
No, no, I mean, I think it's part of the mix.
I don't think there's one thing.
I'll tell you what I really think is going.
Let me, I've kind of nibbled around the edges here, and I've left some of it for you all to understand so that I don't have to say it.
But I'm beginning to think maybe I'm going to have to say it.
Now, what you're talking about first, Brady had a game against the Kansas City Chiefs that had everybody writing the following week that he was over.
It was finished.
It was done.
It was horrible.
I'll never forget it.
All these writers and TV people, now you hope to see a guy go out gracefully.
Oh, my God, to see a player lose it in one day.
Like, oh, my God, this is just horrible.
And they started speculating about, is this it?
Now, I know some things about Tom Brady.
One of the things I know about him is he and George Brett are two of the most, I've never seen anything like it, competitive people I have ever encountered.
And I'm sure Michael Jordan's the same way.
And Tiger, they all are.
But I mean, that game and that aftermath was all the inspiration, motivation, whatever that Brady needed for the rest of the season to just shut everybody up.
And because he came back from what they wrote as the grave, I don't think that's why they are so eager to bury him here.
I really think it's nothing more than human nature.
When you get right down to it, sports writers are groupies.
Many of them are groupies.
That's why they go into the business.
And don't kid yourself.
The number of guys that are jealous as they can be of Tom Brady, nobody's that good.
Nobody's that lucky.
Nobody in real life has it all like that.
It only happens in books.
So when this guy takes a plunge, everybody feels better about themselves and they salivate and they eat it up and they applaud it because they feel better about themselves.
Not just sports writers.
I mean, everybody.
That's the whole interesting aspect of our culture that we love seeing people at the top taken down.
We love it even more when they screw themselves, when they sabotage themselves, or when they get caught cheating, because we know in our hearts they're not really that good.
That's what we tell ourselves.
Because it just, it's just, we feel too insignificant comparing ourselves to Tom Brady.
Oh, geez.
I don't even know.
And then when anything happens that makes Brady look like he's subject to the same rigors of life as everybody else.
Not everybody, but some people take great comfort in that.
You know this as well as I do.
Now, here's what the thing that I have not closed the loop on that I've left it for you to assume.
And I apologize for, this is going to be the fourth time I've said this today, so I apologize for the redundancy.
But let me, to make sure I'm understood about this, remind you again that I sit here to this moment, still stunned the NFL let this happen.
They let a game, a championship game, be played knowing that the equipment had been tampered with.
They knew the footballs or highly suspected the footballs had been tampered with.
And they suspected they'd been tampered with by somebody high up in the Patriots.
The Colts had alleged this, and not just on that game day, but previously in the season.
And other teams had also leveled similar allegations.
Things happened in the pregame, such as the referee Walt Coleman saying for the first time in 19 years, the game balls were not brought to him, which is required by the rules.
The game balls from both teams have to be brought to him for inspection.
And they have to be in the officials' locker room 15 minutes before the game.
He didn't get them.
Right there, they could have stopped everything and said, hey, what is going on?
Because they knew already before that happened that allegations had been made that the Patriots are deflating the footballs, particularly on cold and bad weather days like this day, could have been to help Brady grip the ball and throw it more easily.
Then they've had video and they found out that the locker room guy whose texts they have back and forth with the, they've got an equipment guy and the Patriots game day officials locker room attendant texting back and forth and one of them is really ticked off at Brady.
I mean F-bomb here, F-bomb there about Tom.
F Tom.
Because apparently Tom was complaining the balls were too big and weren't deflated enough.
And this guy was okay, I'm going to fix it.
But I want a jersey and I want some bling and I want some autographs.
And the other equipment guy said, okay, okay, fine.
Just do it.
Do it for Tom.
So they've got all this.
In the aftermath, the investigation, before they had any of this, they knew that these balls had been tampered with and they let the game be which's why people are calling it a sting.
The NFL ran a sting.
That's what everybody was, even back then, just shortly after this game, when this whole controversy surfaced, the NFL was accused of running a sting, meaning they let the game be played with equipment not up to regulation in order to entrap and catch the perps.
Had they not done that, we wouldn't be here.
Had they stopped everything, and they had, and it wouldn't have had to delay the game.
Wait a minute, we haven't examined the footballs.
We're going to make sure before this game starts that every football's up to snuff.
And if they found some that were under-inflated, throw them out, get them replaced, or inflate them to regulation.
Play the game and then do your investigation.
But they play that.
Now, that tells me this is what I've left open and for you to conclude on your own.
And I'm just going to say it.
That's why I said there's Spygate out here.
And out there, you have a lot of people who believe that we still don't know everything that went on with Spygate.
Remember, they destroyed the tapes.
And there are people, particularly Jets fans, who think that it wasn't just videotaping, that the Patriots were intercepting radio signals and listening to offensive play calls.
And I've heard people speculate that the Patriots were able to listen to the Seahawks play calls in the Super Bowl.
I'm just, I don't know that that's true.
Don't misunderstand.
I'm telling you what people are saying.
So you spygate out here, which a lot of people still think hasn't been firmly dealt with.
Some people report that even the commissioner regrets to this day he didn't suspend Belichick instead of just finding him.
The point is that what if the reason they let this happen is because somebody somewhere thinks the Patriots are doing a whole lot more than this and just want to get to the bottom of it and expose it.
Somebody give me an alternative, will you?
Will you tell me why they would run a sting and let this game?
I mean, this is the AFC championship game.
And I don't care that nobody gave the Colts a chance.
And it was a 45-7 blowout.
And by the way, the footballs were corrected at halftime.
And Brady played better with the regulation footballs in the second half than he did with the underinflated balls in the first half for what that's worth.
45-7 blowout.
Don't say that, well, they let it go because it calls it ever prayer anyway.
But no, they don't want to be in this situation today looking to have to suspend the marquee player of the game.
You really think September 10th or whenever it is that the season opens in New England and the Steelers in town, Brady's not on the field, you want the story of that game to be this three, four months from now, still this, which it will be?
Nobody wants that, but the steps they took guarantee that that's what's going to be the story for the rest of the season.
This.
And the whole hit on the league as a whole, not just Patriots and Brady, but the whole league now takes a hit in terms of integrity.
So they can't do a slap on the wrist here.
There has to be some sort of really firm punishment.
On the other hand, over here, you've got the business because you've got the TV networks.
You telling me, like NBC, NBC's probably already on the phone to the NFL.
You better not suspend Brady for that opening game.
I don't care what you do after that, but you better be playing that opening.
All of this pressure being brought to bear here.
And despite that, somebody wanted this to happen.
So there must be, and I'm not trying to sound conspiratorial.
I'm just trying to make it all make sense.
And you have to admit there's nobody better than me to do that.
Here's Jack in Columbia, South Carolina.
As we head back to the phones, Rush Limbaugh with half my brain tied behind my back, just to make it fair.
Jack Hyde, great to have you here.
Hey, good afternoon, Rush.
I'll try to fulfill my obligations as a caller as you fulfill yours as a host.
I've been thinking about this whole Patriots thing, and I'm perplexed with the media's reaction.
They're up in arms with the cheating, the cheating, the cheating.
Yet I don't hear a word about Iran cheating about cheating on their nuclear and one other thing, your analysis or other people's analysis that it could be because of his attitude toward Obama.
This remember, the leaders of Iran have called President Obama a monkey.
So where is the outrage?
Now, this is a fascinating question.
And the first answer I'm going to give you to cover both aspects of your question is your question basically is, when you boil things down, whether a football team or player cheats, impact on the country is negligible.
But if Iran is cheating and is going to get a nuclear weapon and can blow up Israel and maybe us or a city here or there, that's really serious.
And we really need to be concerned about that.
And we're not.
Instead, we're turning the country upside down because Tom Brady might have played with some balls that are underinflated.
Well, the answer is rooted in something that a Harvard sociologist told me way back when I worked in sales and marketing for the Kansas City Royals.
He said, the one thing about sports that separates it from everything else you do or observe or live in life, one thing about sports is it is the only thing.
It is the one thing that you can invest total passion without consequence.
You can give everything you've got to your team and your favorite players.
You can invest every hope, all the love in the world you have, and you don't have to worry that they're going to reject you.
You don't have to worry that they're going to make fools of you.
You don't have to worry that you invest total passion, say, in another person, they're going to let you down.
They'll use you if they know that you're investing.
They'll think they've got you wrapped around your little finger.
So in this case, sports is much more personal.
Tom Brady is much more personal and relatable than the Ayatollah Hominy.
The Ayatollah Hominy remains this mysterious, removed, distant figure that we don't really ever hear speak.
We don't really know this guy.
But Tom Brady and the Patriots are in our living rooms every Sunday in the fall and the winter.
And people forget everything else going on in their lives for the three to four hours every Sunday or Monday night whenever they watch the team.
So there's a much greater personal connection on the part of average ordinary people than there is with any foreign policy issue.
That would be one answer.
The other answer as to why the media is much more, in fact, applauding, your point is the media practically applauds the Iranians for getting what they want.
Never forget that the real objective in any news story or in any event is defeating conservatives and Republicans.
And anybody that does that is going to be a hero.
Now you say, well, what's that got to do with Iran?
Well, I can tell you right now, the Republicans in the Senate have made it clear that they don't think Obama has the right nor the power to unilaterally make a deal with Iran on nuclear weapons or anything else without them having a say-so in it.
That alone will cause the media to hate the Republicans and automatically support Obama in anything he's doing.
Because the objective is not to beat Iran.
The objective is to beat Mitch McConnell or Jeff Sessions or take your pick.
The objective is to beat the Republican Senate.
The objective is to beat the Republican National Committee.
The objective is to beat John Boehner.
The objective is to beat conservative media.
And to the extent that the Iranians are aligned with Obama and the Democrat Party means that the Iranians are not going to be perceived as the enemy in this.
The Republicans are.
The Republicans, the conservatives, whatever, the opponents of the left, wherever you find them and whoever they are, are the enemy.
They are the threat.
They are the constant enemy that must be defeated.
That's why Bill Clinton is so loved.
I'm convinced Clinton is so loved by the media because he routinely, he didn't just beat the Republicans, he humiliated them.
He enabled people to laugh at them.
And Obama, same thing.
Whatever Democrat can come along and make the Republicans look like the bigger fools, the biggest jokes, the bigger star, the bigger hero or heroine that Democrat or foreign leader is going to be.
Okay, we've reached another break here at the top of the hour, obscene prophet.
Time, we have take here and make.
But we'll be back and we move on to Baltimore and the Clintons.
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