You know what I think if they came to an interim agreement just to save face for Obama?
Why wouldn't you, if you're the Iranians and you know that you're going to end up getting a nuclear weapon out of this, why wouldn't you do whatever it took to help the American president make that possible?
And if he needs an interim agreement today to sell this to the rest of the world and his own people, then let him have it.
I'm sitting here.
I can remember, again, being on the golf course.
I can remember being on the golf course during the Bush presidency, George W. Bush.
And I remember just a whole bunch of people opining on the whole concept of Iran getting a nuclear weapon.
And I remember all of the things people said to me, and they were all rooted in the same thing.
One thing I like about Bush, you know with Bush, the Iranians will never get a nuke.
Bush will never sit for it.
That'll never happen with Bush in the White House.
It was a big deal, is the point.
The Iranians getting a nuclear weapon was a huge deal to a lot of people.
Now, like the millennials don't care, they couldn't care less.
All they care about is that civil rights might be being denied in Indiana somewhere.
They couldn't care less about it.
Obama wants a deal with Iran, much like he wanted to be the first president to get a health care bill, just to get an agreement.
But who are we making an agreement with?
The state world sponsors of terrorism.
If you take a look at who this deal is with, it's just mind-boggling.
There hasn't been a negotiated settlement.
There have been plenty of agreements, but they've never mattered a hill of beans in the Middle East peace process.
And why anybody thinks there were all kinds of agreements, nuclear arms, strategic arms agreements with the Soviets didn't stop them?
The Soviets kept ratcheting up their nuclear arsenal.
They kept building up their military despite all the agreements we had with them that they wouldn't.
It's the process that these people are celebrating.
It's the process that they're claiming that they have conquered here.
We got the Iranians to sign a deal.
Big whoop.
But they're going to run around and say it's something nobody else has done.
We're the best presidency this country's ever had.
Look at our achievements.
National health care, a deal with Iran on nuclear weapons.
Yeah, but what's the deal?
It doesn't matter.
We're the ones who got it.
We got a deal with Iran on nuclear weapons.
I don't know.
It is very, very confusing.
As I said, I hate being redundant here, but I think this is relevant.
And I think it makes a great point.
30 years ago, 40 years ago, the idea of nuclear proliferation, the left hated it.
They were animated.
They did Everything they could to stop it.
Remember all the peace movement antics that they engaged in, the global peace march for nuclear disarmament, this peace march, this peace, all the protests, all the die-ins on the state of the Capitol building to replicate what would happen at the very moment of a nuclear blast.
To all the Hollywood actors and actresses going on TV and bleating about the dangers of nuclear weapons and blaming every Republican president on earth for their spread and their proliferation and demanding that it be stopped.
And the Soviet Union was looked at as the savior, even when Mikhail Gorbachev came to the United States for a summit with Reagan in 1986, which, by the way, is where the first ever gorbasm took place.
Gorbachev arrived to the cheers of the American left thinking that he was the savior.
He was Mr. Sanity.
He was bringing common sense to nuclear proliferation.
Gorbachev was going to stop it.
Gorbachev was going to convince Reagan to stop it.
Gorbachev was going to make sure that Reagan didn't blow up the world.
And now those very same people, and they're still around many of them, those very same people are now applauding and encouraging and celebrating a Sharia law Islamic state acquiring a nuclear weapon.
What happened in the interim?
How did we get from the very same people applauding Iran getting a nuke to being steadfastly opposed to it with every fiber of their bodies for 50 years?
All it took is one movie, The China Syndrome, and we couldn't build a nuclear power plant in this country.
But we just told the Iranians, have at it, buds.
You want nuclear power?
We'll sign the bottom line for you.
In fact, we'll even help you.
We'll send you some centrifuges and we'll just make a deal with you on what you do with your enriched uranium.
And if you tell us that you're not going to make a weapon out of it, we will believe you.
The same people are, and some people even in this administration have been in the past totally opposed to this.
In principle, nuclear equaled bad.
Nuclear equaled apocalypse.
Nuclear equaled end of everything.
Nuclear was horrible.
Nuclear was immoral.
Nuclear was unjust.
Nuclear was unacceptable.
And now the very same people are applauding the very spread of nuclear weapons to the Middle East in the hands of a nation that up until this administration had always been the bad guys.
But now we are the bad guys.
And the Iranians and the Palestinians, Hamas and Hezbollah, they're the good guys because they are the equivalent of the minority groups in this country who've been discriminated against by vile, evil majorities.
Over there, it's the Israelis who've been the vile, evil, discriminatory majority.
The Israelis have been the mean-spirited ones.
And Hamas and Hezbollah and Fatah and you name it, why, they are the put-upon, oppressed, disadvantaged, poor minorities.
And it's with them that we side.
I guess the Iranians, since they are the allies of the militant Islamists or the enemies of Israel, I guess they are our buddies too.
Or am I missing something?
Is something happened that I have forgotten or that I didn't notice that the left did all of a sudden start to liking nuclear weapons?
Is it that nuclear weapons are okay if they are under the control of, say, a really smart guy like Obama?
Is it nuclear weapons and their spread are okay if somebody as compassionate and understanding and brilliant as Obama is in charge?
Then we don't have anything to worry about.
Nuclear power, nuclear weapons, that's fine and dandy, as long as Obama's in charge.
What else could it be?
The Politico.
Headline.
The weak Mike Pence's 2016 dreams crumbled.
Or, subheadline, mission accomplished.
The Indiana governor, potential GOP presidential candidate, is caught in a surprise culture war.
It's by Adam Wren with the black marble of the Indiana House of Representatives behind him.
Governor Mike Pence in January trumpeted a laundry list of accomplishments achieved in the first half of his first term.
Two balanced budgets, a falling unemployment rate, more than 100,000 new jobs created.
It seemed the predicate for a potential 2016 presidential run.
Just balancing the budget is enough to make the media feel threatened by him.
And just creating 100,000 jobs, that was enough to make him the enemy of the media.
Well, yeah, because when Obama's out killing jobs and looking bad and inept, a Republican governor comes along and looks good, that's reason enough to tar and feather the guy.
Basking in the glow of the moment back in January, Pence dropped his customary aw shucks, Hoosier persona, and let himself brag.
He said, tonight there are 49 other governors across this country who wish they could be me.
Well, maybe then, but not anymore, says the Politico.
Not three short months later, amidst the biggest crisis of his political life, that line rings comical.
And so what we have here, my friends, the Politico continues to let the cat out of the bag.
Now, I realized this phony crisis was created to try to put any potential Republican candidates into a bind.
But what I didn't know, I didn't realize that the Democrats and the media saw Mike Pence as a possible candidate.
They obviously did.
And they made the decision to take him out.
And he didn't do much to help himself.
He played along with their effort to take him out.
But seizing on Indiana now, as far as the drive-bys and the Democrats are concerned, it makes more sense.
The only thing that had been better for them, if they could do this to Scott Walker, and I think they are still salivating and dreaming about being able to do that, we'll just have to keep a sharp eye.
I want to get back to more phone calls as this hour progresses.
And I do have a roster of soundbites I want to get to that are related to things that we've already discussed, but I still want to get to them.
One thing, yesterday, we, maybe the day before, I forget which, one of the previous two days, I made mention of the fact that CNN was all a Twitter.
All a buzz.
CNN just terribly distressed that they couldn't get Coach K to go on the record about what's going on in Indiana.
They wanted Coach K, Mike Shyszewski of Duke.
They want him to come out and they want him to condemn the bigots and the homophobes in Indiana.
And Coach K wasn't going to say anything.
And he made it clear he's not there to be involved in all this.
He's there to coach his team and to concentrate on winning the NCAA men's basketball tournament.
Well, they finally got to it.
And CNN celebrated today.
On CNN's newsroom, Carol Costello spoke with the sports anchor Rachel Nichols via telephone about her interviewer, Coach K about the Indiana law.
Costello was breathless.
What do you have for us, Rachel?
What did you do?
What happened?
I just walked out of an interview with Coach Mike Shyszewski from Duke, and he reiterated that any discrimination or window to discrimination is an issue for him.
Coach K brought up how basketball as a sport has been at the forefront of a lot of that, from racial integration on the court and front offices and coaching to Jason Collins being the first openly gay male athlete in any of the four major American courts.
I know it caught the attention of a lot of people.
I think even on your show earlier this week when Coach Shyszewski declined to comment, he is definitely speaking out on it now.
Oh, yeah, definitely speaking because we put the pressure on him and Coach K finally was brought to heel and said what CNN wanted to hear.
We'll be back.
We have a call from Walkerton, Indiana, which is...
Oh, no!
He just dropped off.
Now, we had a call from Walkerton, Indiana, which is the town of a population of about 2,000 that has the pizza shop, Memories Pizza Shop that has been shut down.
Well, go to Lewis in Lafayette, Louisiana.
You're next, sir, and it's great to have you on the program.
Hello.
It's great to be on the program, Rush.
I've been listening for the past 10 years, so it's a real honor to be on the program.
How old are you now, Lewis?
Well, I'll be 24 tomorrow.
I'm 23 for the next, you know.
Well, happy birthday in advance.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I was just calling because I was listening to the program earlier when it first aired this morning about this girl who was on that TV show, and she was upset about the U.S. having, you know, nuclear weapons.
And they've been showing a lot about, you know, this Iran deal with the nuclear weapons.
And as I was thinking earlier, that should be like the least of Americans' worries right now.
Because the world can end, you know, in the next 10 years and in the next 10 billion years.
But the problem we have is like we don't need to live in oppression until then.
You have the administration that we have right now that are imposing so many different laws that are restricting our freedoms, like forcing us to have health care.
I'm a server.
I don't think that I should be forced to wait on anybody.
So you think the regime, you think the Obama administration has created a police state type?
Yeah, I was talking to Bo about that earlier.
I mean, you have, I myself, you know, like I said, I'm 23.
I get pulled over, not pulled over.
Cops will come to me when I'm at a gas station at 10.30 at night after I leave work.
If I'm cleaning out my girlfriend's car with a hoodie on in 30-degree weather, they'll come and take my license plate down.
Like that, like, why does a police officer feel the need to do that?
You know, you have these police officers putting people in chokeholds that are illegal.
They have police officers killing people, and nobody's worried about it.
Well, now, that's, that's, it's not true that nobody's worried about it.
But, see, The person you're talking did not die from the chokehold.
You're illustrating one of the challenges that we face here.
You've been convinced that we live in a police state where the police are out just manhandling people, in some cases murdering them in cold blood just because they don't like them, just because of their skin color.
You've been made to believe that.
It's not the case.
It simply isn't the case.
And it hasn't been the case.
I'm not saying people are getting murdered in the streets every day, but I'm saying that I see more stories about these police wrongdoing that's going unreported by underground media as opposed to something like, I don't know, Fox or one of the drive-by media stations.
They're all worried about things that aren't affecting our day-to-day lives.
Well, now that, see, I know where you're coming from.
That's what you look at the Iranian nuclear deal and you're so what, you say?
That's not going to affect me tonight.
That's not going to affect me tomorrow.
And even if they do nuke us, the world's over.
And until they nuke us, I want a life that's fair and just.
I want to be free.
That's correct.
I want to have liberties not to be encroached by the national government and the current administration.
Well, you're kind of on both sides of this because, on the one hand, you're critical of Obama, but then you're also agreeing with Obama's view of the country when you cite the stuff that you cited about the cops.
Well, I mean, see, I'm not necessarily, I consider myself a conservative libertarian.
So if I ever accidentally agree with Obama, it's purely on ACI.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Let me ask you.
Let's cut to the chain.
What is it, if you could pinpoint it, Lewis?
You're obviously informed and you try to stay informed.
And because of that, you have fears and concerns and worries and you see problems.
What is it?
If you had to narrow it down to one or two things, what is it that's really bothering you?
You get up every day.
What is it that is really bothering you that you think is going to have a direct impact on you and your ability to live the way you want to?
I'd probably say the stripping of our personal liberties, like Obama's attack on the Second Amendment.
That's probably one of the most things that bothers me the most because I feel like once you strip away your protection, then they're free to do anything they want.
Okay.
All right.
So I don't want to give you possibilities.
I don't want to lead you into things.
I really want to find out what's on your mind.
Like if I ask you, what do you think about Obama's effort to basically open the borders and let anybody immigrate to the country who wants to?
See, I completely disagree with his position on that.
My mother was born and raised in Honduras in Central America.
So I'm one of the, I would say, like a composite American.
My father was born and raised down here in the South.
Mom was born in another country.
She immigrated with my brother legally to the United States.
My family legally immigrated.
I have family who's been fighting all kinds of different red tape trying to get here.
Well, I think your instincts are right.
See, this is the thing.
That's why I wanted to find out what is actually on your mind.
And you are aware, to one degree or another.
You are aware that you are losing a little liberty and freedom here and there every day.
You're right.
You are.
You're highly tuned to that.
I congratulate you.
It's good that you're a listener here.
Okay.
I just heard Marack Hussein-O announce the terms of the deal with Iran.
I didn't have a chance to make any notes because I preferred to smoke my cigar.
But I did commit a lot of it to memory.
And I'm just going to give you a summary of what I heard.
He started off, I didn't hear the actual beginning, but the beginning of what I heard, the Iranians for the next 10 years will remain one year away from getting a nuclear weapon.
For the next 10 years.
For the next 15 years, they promise they will not cheat, but if they do cheat, we're going to catch them because we're going to have more inspectors than any nation has ever had inspecting.
They won't cheat because that's not who they are, but if they do cheat, we're going to catch them and if they cheat, we're going to snap our sanctions right back on them.
They have promised to never ever, develop a nuclear weapon, which was confusing because he started by saying they will next, for the next 10 years, they'll remain one year away, for the next 10 years, from getting a nuclear weapon.
We're going to inspect the centrifuges, we're going to inspect all the uranium.
We're going to make sure they can't store the enriched uranium underground, but we're going to make sure that they don't get a nuclear weapon ever.
Except they got to stay a year away from it for 10 years and then in 15, they do this.
It's the best deal that we've ever had, best deal we could ever get.
My negotiators have been instructed by me to fully brief Congress and the American people.
But none of this has been committed to writing yet and there hasn't been anything signed.
And when I heard that I said, well, what?
What is this?
It's not on paper yet and it hasn't been signed, and it won't be until this summer, but we got this framework here and if this holds, if this framework works, it'll be the first time, the last time, the best time, the most secure resolution to a potential worldwide deadly problem ever.
And it will have been done peacefully and, of course, by me.
But if they cheat, we're going to find out about it.
They can't do anything covertly because they're going to have inspectors everywhere and if they don't like having inspectors around, it doesn't matter.
They can't kick them out.
The inspectors are going to be there.
And i'm asking, who are the inspectors?
The people at Saddam fooled for all those years.
Well, you have a question.
What's the question?
That's right.
But that that see, that's really going to happen anymore.
I know we didn't know about the, the underground where they were storing the enriched uranium, that we didn't know about that until a few weeks ago.
But see, that's not going to happen anymore, because now we got inspectors and the inspector is going to make sure that oh, Iran doesn't do anything covert, overt or what have you.
Don't worry about it now.
And also, none of it.
None of it's been signed yet and that's not going to happen until the summer and there is nothing written down.
But there's going to be a robust debate.
Very proud of the deal, his negotiators are going to present the details of the deal to Congress and the American people and Obama welcomes a robust debate.
But nothing's been signed and it won't be signed.
I I don't know how you say.
On the one hand, you got to stay a year away he said this one year away from developing a nuclear weapon for 10 years.
That means that they can continue to develop nuclear and develop and develop, but they have to stay at least a year away from producing a nuclear weapon for the next 10 years.
But then later he said they cannot ever produce a nuclear weapon.
But then, after all this, again nothing's written down and nothing's signed yet.
Now, I stand by one of my original theories that, you know, the Iranians have been smiling for the past three or four days and all this, and even in the news stories, Iranian foreign minister all smiles.
I think the Iranians realized that they might have made a tactical error by not coming to some sort of agreement on March 31st.
Because with Obama as a negotiating partner, you know you're going to get a nuclear weapon.
So what's a day or two?
Go ahead now and give him this framework, even though it's a couple days late.
Let Obama save face by agreeing to something.
And he can now go out to the Bergdahl garden and make his announcement that we've got a deal with Iran when nothing's really changed.
So he's allowed to save face.
The Iranis though, they're never going to have a better chance of getting a nuclear weapon negotiated as they do with Obama in office.
So by all means, don't do anything that could weaken his position domestically.
In other words, the mullahs, the Ayatollah Hammy knows he's got to make Obama look strong to the American people and the American media.
And I think that's what's going on here today.
Who are we talking about here?
We're talking about Iran for crying out loud.
And you are supposed to think Iran peaceful, loving, agreeable, honest, we can do a deal with them.
It's Indiana you got to be on the lookout for.
Another question?
You look at, what is your next question?
What's the next question?
What if they're lying?
He said that if they're lying, they're going to get caught because we've got all these inspectors.
That's not a problem.
If they lie, they're going to get caught.
And we're going to slap the sanctions right back on them.
If they lie, if they cheat, and if we catch them, we're going to slap those sanctions right back on them so fast they'll not know what hit them.
Well, if they're lying, they'll be closer to having the bomb.
At some point, they'll have the bomb in their lying.
I think Obama just got rolled like an Easter egg.
Timing appropriate.
But we'll see.
We'll see.
How can you have a deal if it's not signed?
You have a framework agreement.
You have a framework agreement to proceed to a signed deal.
You have a framework.
That's what this date of March 31st was, was the date for a framework agreement.
A framework agreement is what?
It's merely the parameters that define how you go forward.
No, that's not on paper anymore.
This framework agreement is basically an agreement that we will talk about X, Y, Z, A, B, Z. There's not a handshake because there's nothing to handshake on you.
The only thing they've agreed to do is to keep talking.
But what Obama laid out was what the ultimate deal is going to be this summer when they get there, that we're closer to that than ever.
This is what Iran in the framework agreement has signaled they are willing to agree to, but they haven't yet because nothing has been signed.
And never forget that the regime said they might not ever even commit this to paper.
We just had that earlier this week.
This, I guarantee, this press conference that he's conducting, and it's still, it's not, I don't know, it's a press conference, it's a statement at the Bergdahl Garden in the White House.
I guarantee you this is for the low-information consumer of news and the drive-by media to spread it.
This is going to be a celebrated thing.
You mark my words.
This is going to be by us.
It's going to be by our media.
It's going to be heralded.
This is another thing Obama has done that no previous president ever even got close to.
You're making the mistake of imposing reality on this.
They're creating an image that Obama is the first president ever to tame the beast that is Iran, the first person to bring them to their knees, the first person to get them to agree that they've got to not create a nuclear weapon.
So, by the way, we get down to specifics on this.
Obama says that if they cheat and we catch them, he's going to slap sanctions right back on.
The UN will never, ever impose sanctions on Iran again.
The Russians and the CHICOMs will never allow that.
And Congress cannot impose sanctions.
So, because it's all taking place here at the UN, the sanctions are gone forever now.
We've lifted all the Iranians have done is what they always do.
They stall and they stall and they stall and they throw enough crumbs out to make us think that they're getting close to agreeing with us.
A tentative framework agreement.
That's exactly what all this is.
In the meanwhile, they continue developing.
They got the sanctions lifted.
That's essentially their big talking point today.
They got the sanctions lifted.
Nothing signed.
So whatever it is they've agreed to is meaningless.
There's no signature.
They did.
They did.
They got something tangible out of the framework agreement.
The tentative framework agreement.
Yes, they got the lifting of sanctions.
What do we get tangible out of it?
What do we get tangible in return?
They promised that while we're talking, they won't develop a nuke, that they'll stay a year away.
They promised they'll keep talking to us about it.
They promised to allow the inspectors.
They promised that they will never...
Promises are not tangible.
Oh, right.
Well, then, what do we get out of this?
I'm trying.
We had to get something.
Kerry gets a peace prize?
That would be tangible.
We could touch it.
I don't know.
I have to take a brief time out, my friends.
We'll be back with much more after this.
Don't go.
You just, whatever this analysis, you're not going to do better than this.
Don't doubt me.
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Grab audio soundbite number 24.
This is Obama describing what's going to happen if there's any cheating by the Iranians.
International inspectors will have unprecedented access, not only to Iranian nuclear facilities, but to the entire supply chain that supports Iran's nuclear program.
If Iran cheats, the world will know it.
If we see something suspicious, we will inspect it.
There you go.
See?
Iranians are cooked.
They're finished.
There you have it, man.
If they do something suspicious, we're going to inspect it.
That doesn't say we're going to do anything about it.
It just says we're going to inspect it.
Here is the beginning.
This is Obama's preamble, I guess you'd say, announcing the world has been saved.
Today, the United States, together with our allies and partners, has reached a historic understanding with Iran, which, if fully implemented, will prevent it from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
As President and Commander-in-Chief, I have no greater responsibility than the security of the American people.
And I am convinced that if this framework leads to a final comprehensive deal, it will make our country, our allies, and our world safer.
You heard that in there.
If he even emphasized, if this framework leads to a final comprehensive deal, it will make our country, our allies, and our world safer.
If.
Now, the Iranians, we've had plenty of examples like this in history where people came back waving, look at what I got.
I got an agreement.
They promised to leave us alone.
They promised they're going to be good people.
Now, we've been there, done that.
And we know that the Iranians could take much if Obama goes out there and huffs and puffs too much.
And if Kerry, keep a short, if Kerry goes out there and huffs and puffs too much, the Ayatollah hominy may say, you know what?
These guys are humiliating me.
And he may just say, you know what, I'm pulling back.
I'm canceling everything that you think I agreed to last week.
He can do that next Tuesday, which is their modus operandi.
So at this stage, there's nothing specific.
Well, there are specifics that Kerry's going to announce, but we don't know what they are yet.
So we'll just sit back and we will watch and we'll listen to the platitudes because that's really the purpose of this framework is for the administration to be able to shout their platitudes, their greatness and all of that.
Open line Fridays tomorrow, my friends.
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