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March 31, 2015, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Ladies and gentlemen, I have a question.
I don't know that anybody has an answer.
I might have the answer.
I have most of the answers.
But that still doesn't eliminate my desire to ask the question.
Why are gays and lesbians and Democrats so anti-religion?
Why are they so intolerant of religious people?
I mean, isn't that kind of what's going on here in Indiana?
Now, some might say, no, Russia, it's chicken and egg.
I mean, who started this?
I don't know who's.
All I know is that back in 1993, Bill Clinton signed a Religious Protection Act, Freedom from Discrimination, whatever it is.
RFFA, I don't even know the title of it, but we all know what I'm talking about.
And it was designed to let Indians go ahead and smoke peyote.
And they were exempt from a statute because of their religious beliefs.
The Democrats were up to this celebrating that.
The Democrats authored that.
The Democrats wrote that.
And then something 30 other states followed up and created their own Freedom from Religious Discrimination Act, whatever the heck of the name of the thing is.
And sometime between 1993 and today, it seems like the gays and lesbians, militant gays and lesbians, and Democrats and liberals are just anti-religious, well, anti-Christian.
I don't know what would happen if, let's say, a gay couple walked into a Muslim bakery and the Muslim bakery refused to bake the cake.
I don't know what would happen.
If a gay couple walked into a Muslim photography studio, said, hey, we want you to shoot pictures at our wedding.
I don't know what would happen.
But we do know what would happen if they walked into a Christian bakery or bakery owned by Christians or photography studio owned by Christians.
In fact, if there was only, if you had 10 bakeries in a neighborhood and only one of them was operated by devout Christians, why would you choose that one to go to?
I think we all know the answer to these questions.
I'm just asking them.
What, do you think I'm over the line here asking the question?
I'm not over the line at all.
Greetings, by the way, folks.
Great to have you.
El Rushball and the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
Here we are back at it, three hours revved and ready, just as I promised.
The Restoration of Religious Freedom Act or some such thing as that.
Yeah.
The official program observer is raising his hand for question.
What's the question?
Yeah.
What is it?
Right.
Right.
Was the question, if someone doesn't want to cook, like if you go into a restaurant, you mean, and we don't want to cook for you, would you still sit there and eat what they're going to serve you?
Or would you leave and go someplace else where you're more wanted or desired?
Well, I guess that, well, no, it's not a stupid question.
It's a very illustrative, for those of you in Rhea Linda, illustrative for you that are correct question that illustrates the point here.
It's like mine.
If you've got in your neighborhood 10 bakeries, you're a gay couple, you're going to get married.
There's 10 bakeries, and there's only one run by devout Christians.
Why go there?
It's obvious, isn't it?
Trying to pick the fight.
What I don't understand is, you go back, as I say, 1993, Bill Clinton talking about God and religious freedom.
Who cares that it was about Indians and peyote?
It was so effective.
It was so good.
It reaffirmed the whole notion of the First Amendment protections for freedom to practice religion that a bunch of other states glommed onto it and created their own versions of it.
And the state versions mirror the federal version.
And back then, the Democrats were openly, well, at least more so than today.
They were more than willing to praise God, talk about God, invoke God, appear to be doing the work of God.
But sometime between then and now, something's dramatically changed.
And it appears that the people who were applauding Clinton back in the day are now anti-religion, anti-Christian religion.
And I just wonder why the intolerance?
When did it start?
Now, Mike Pence, the governor of Indiana, boy, oh boy, did they just start dumping on Pence and they dumped on Indiana.
I mean, it was all over the place, predictably.
NCAA, man, we wish we could take our tournament out of there.
All kinds of businesses began to think they were going to fold up and leave.
And then other governors in other states started making pitches for businesses in Indiana to relocate and conventions that were going to take place in Indiana not to go there to cancel and come to their other states.
Ron Emmanuel is one.
Emmanuel made a pitch.
Illinois has the identical law.
Illinois has an identical law to what everybody's underwears in a wad over in Indiana.
Now, look, these questions answer themselves.
I understand it.
I'm just asking them.
We all know what's going on here.
This is a version of the Republican war on women.
This is a campaign issue.
Mike Pence, governor of Indiana, went out today, soundbites coming up, to try to put out the fire, and it's not possible to put out the fire.
There is nothing Mike Pence could have said today to stop this because this isn't about anything other than the 2016 election and things that are ancillaries of it.
It's a political issue and does not have a solution because the people that are stirring things up do not want there to be a solution.
That's not, and so there's nothing that Mike Pence could have said to mollify because they're not going to be mollified.
Mike Pence could do everything in the world that the activists are asking.
And even after he did that, the activists and the Democrats would still continue the issue by pointing out: look what they did in the first place, and that's who they really are, no matter they caved totally to us.
That's who they really are.
That's who the Republicans really are.
So there's nothing that Pence could have done.
Now, I've had some emails from people today who are suggesting to me that Mike Pence caved in his appearance.
Did you see it, snirtly?
Did you watch any of it?
I saw some of it.
We've got the sound bites coming up.
But I've got email, and you people that sent me emails, you know who you are, suggesting to me that Mike Pence caved and is now going to fix, quote unquote, this law in Indiana, not due to facts, but because of the seriousness of the charge.
People have learned well listening to the program, and they've pointed out that this is another one of these examples where the facts on the ground don't matter a hill of beans, and you can get blue in the face telling people about the facts.
Made this point yesterday.
Over here, you got the facts.
You got history, you got context, all that doesn't matter.
Over here, you've got a political issue, the emotions, and what the opposition sees is another chance to do indelible, constant, never-ending harm to the Republican Party.
And so that is what is going to be prevalent.
And even if Pence were to do whatever it's demanded that he do to totally fix this, they would still say the seriousness of the charge and the original intent.
Don't care that Pence fixed it.
Look at who he really is.
Don't care that Indiana fixed it.
Look what they tried to get away with.
That's what we're up against in this country.
And I've got some sound bites coming up, which will demonstrate to you that which I told you yesterday: that this is an attack on the presumption of majorities being oppressors, just by virtue of the fact that they are majorities.
Now, before we get to that, just a little side story here.
Actually, two side stories here.
Theblaze.com has discovered that an economist at the Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics, this is an Obama administration official, is undergoing a review after she apparently sent out a tweet claiming that Christians vote for Nazis.
Economist Elizabeth Ashhack Twitter account sometimes over the weekend of the account appeared to tweet out: people in the red states vote for Nazis to govern and then call themselves Christian.
It will not end well for them.
And then she includes the hashtag boycott Indiana.
And they captured the screenshot of the tweet was captured by somebody called supermexican.com.
S-O-O-P-E-R.
Now, the tweet obviously is a reference to the new Indiana law aimed at some say would make it easier to discriminate against gay people.
Supporters of the law say it would only require courts to weigh the right to religious liberty in cases that might involve discrimination.
You know what?
What is I told you yesterday that this story, this case uniquely parallels Ferguson, Missouri.
And you know how?
There were two things in Ferguson, Missouri that became fact, that were not fact.
They were never ever true, but they became the identifiers of the story.
One, hands up, don't shoot.
That the gentle giant was indeed that, a gentle giant strolling the street on a beautiful Saturday afternoon, or as beautiful as Saturdays can be in Ferguson, Missouri, strolling down the street, contemplating.
This is what they told us.
The gentle giant was contemplating eagerly his first days at university.
This was before anybody knew that he had held up a convenience store liquor store for some swisher sweets to make blunts out of.
So the story was he tried to surrender.
The gentle giant was only thinking about going to college.
Hands up, don't shoot.
He tried to surrender, and a white cop murdered him in cold blood.
The second aspect of the story was that this happens all the time.
And it's finally time to bring it to a stop.
It's finally time to do something about this.
It's time we end this never-ending white cop shooting innocent black kid story that happens way too much in this country.
Except neither of them were true.
White cops are not wantonly murdering innocent black kids, and the gentle giant didn't try to surrender.
The facts of that story were buried.
And the illusions and the lies took their place.
Well, in Indiana and everywhere else, this whole concept is being discussed, the Restoration of Religious Freedom Act.
There is this assumption that has become almost a daily news story that Christian-owned businesses routinely, many times a day, discriminate against innocent, loving, gay and lesbian couples.
That innocent and loving gay and lesbian couples multiple times a day are being denied service, are being denied the opportunity to conduct business.
Just like a lie that sprung up in Ferguson, so is one springing up here out of Indiana.
And that is that Christian people are wantonly discriminating against gays and lesbians every day, multiple times a day, denying them this, denying them that.
And it's about time it comes to a screeching halt.
When the fact of the matter is, the stories that we have detailing this, the Christians involved will say we're not discriminating against anybody.
We are simply practicing our religious beliefs, just like the Indians wanting to use peyote.
We are simply practicing our religious beliefs.
We're denying service to anybody.
Well, if we don't bake their cake, there are plenty of other bakeries that will.
We do not wish to be forced into violating our religious beliefs.
And we are being led to believe that's not what's going on.
No, no, no.
It's genuine discrimination.
It's mean-spirited, extreme discrimination.
It's happening all over the place.
Just like the lies of Ferguson, this one has been given life, and it's now what they call operative.
It is the lie on which everybody is making statements of opinion on this law.
Meanwhile, in the real world, over at the labor department, there is an economist at the Bureau of Labor Statistics who tweeted that people in the red states vote for Nazis to govern and then call themselves Christian.
Woman's name is Elizabeth Ash Hack, or Ash Hack.
Well, it's A-S-H-A-C-K-ASHHAC.
Now, she's denying it.
She's claiming that her account was hacked.
A new tweet, apparently written, which was that her work and her home computers were hacked and that an investigation's underway.
Neither this tweet nor the original Nazi tweet were on her Twitter account as of yesterday.
Ash Hack's past Twitter profile said she was an economist at the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the Department of Labor, but her Twitter profile no longer includes any note about her work for the government, which has led some to speculate that she was recently fired from the BLS.
And this new host that they have named excitedly to replace Jon Stewart on the Daily Show, guy's name is Trevor Noah or Noah Trevor.
What is this clown's name?
Is it Noah Trevor?
Is it Trevor Noah?
Okay, Trevor Noah.
Anyway, they've discovered this guy is one of the biggest anti-Semites out there based on things that he has tweeted.
And I have a list of some of these things that he has tweeted.
South Africans know how to recycle like Israel knows how to be peaceful.
Behind every successful rap billionaire is a double as rich Jewish man.
And there are others that are worse than that.
But they're praising this guy.
And they're talking about how the right-wingers are going to become gunning for this guy.
They're not going to understand it.
He's a comedian and he's making salient, funny points.
The TV editor at salon.com actually wrote, I hope we, the audience, can prove to Noah that we deserve him and that we will stand for him too when it's necessary because it's clear that he's used to backlash.
I'm not sure that we are.
I have to take a break.
Be right back.
Don't go away.
Trevor Noah, the replacement for Jon Stewart, the Daily Show.
By the way, he was like fourth on the list.
They wanted Amy Prohor, is that her name?
She said no.
They wanted Tina Fey.
She said no.
And they tried for some guy.
I can't think of who the guy was.
Some famous name said no.
Don't want to be shoehorned into a format like that.
So he was the fourth guy on the list.
But he said, the new Daily Show host said that present-day America has worse race relations than apartheid South Africa.
Kid you not.
And the audience of the Daily Show laughed.
Oh, yeah, this guy's great.
Man, we can't wait till this guy's the host of the show.
Newsbusters tells about the time he was introduced by Jon Stewart on the program as the newest contributor.
Stewart said, I know that you flew in, I guess, yesterday from South Africa.
And Trevor Noah said, yep, yep, I just flew in.
Boy, my arm's tired.
And he put his hands up as in Hands Up, Don't Shoot.
And he said, seriously, I've been holding my arms like this since I got here.
Hands up, don't shoot.
He said, I never thought I'd be more afraid of police in America than in South Africa.
It kind of makes me a little nostalgic for the old days back home.
So why move here?
I mean, if you're more afraid of the cops in the United States than you were during apartheid in South Africa, why move here?
Why move to such a violently racist country?
What was he thinking?
Anyway, the audience at the Daily Show loved it.
They ate it up.
So all of this lying bigotry and discrimination and hatred, perfectly fine, wherever it occurs on the left.
They have to make things up about conservatives and white police officers.
Have to make things up and then perpetuate the lies that they tell.
This Religious Freedom Restoration Act, think of it, think of it as it's a shield.
It's protection right there in the name of the law.
It's not a gun.
It's not a weapon.
It's not a sword, as people say.
It's a shield.
It protects people.
And boy, has it been distorted way out of the ballpark?
Just like, well, hang on.
Yeah, and in the stack of things that are totally made up and cannot possibly be true today, there's a Washington Post poll.
And you know what it says?
The vast majority of you support Obama's nuke deal with Iran.
That's what it says.
The vast majority of American people ready to go, ready to help Obama get the nuke deal done with Iran, except they're not told the truth about what the deal is.
Primary question in the poll is, would you support an Iranian nuke deal which lifted sanctions on Iran for a pledge from Iran not to develop a nuclear weapon?
Well, of course, reasonable people say, yep, that's good with me, but that's not what the Iranian nuke deal is.
They do a poll on an imaginary nuke deal, but that question has no relationship to what the deal currently being discussed is.
And of course, the deal has fallen apart.
So many misconceptions about this.
Everybody thought that the deadline, the deadline, was today.
And no, this was just phase one.
This was some preliminary thing.
This is the framework of a deal.
This is not the deal.
And the drive-bys were hyping this date, today, as it had to get done or else it was going to blow up and nothing was ever going to happen.
And that simply was never the case.
The original drop-dead date for this is sometime in June or July.
And what happened here, exactly what the Iranians always do.
At the last minute, they made a total change to something they had previously committed to.
In this case, they said, you know what?
We're not going to surrender the enriched uranium that we produced.
And John Kerry said, but wait, but wait, you said you were.
And the Iranians said, well, we changed our mind.
I talked to Ali Khamenei.
And he said, we changed our mind.
We're not going to do that.
So we call the Russians.
Hey, can you guys help?
Because you essentially sold them the stuff to help make it.
And Putin said, yeah, we'll take their radium off their hands.
And the Iranians said, no, we're not going to give up our uranium.
And the Russians said, we'd be happy to take it and hold it in escrow.
So then, as I say, the Ayatollah hominy came in and said, screw all this.
And so the deadline today is going to come and go, whether it's met or not is irrelevant because the Ayatollah hominy has said, you know, this two-phase thing is a bunch of garbage anyway.
Screw this framework stuff.
The real drop debt dates July, and that's what's now operative.
And of course, this is also part and parcel of the way Iran does things.
We get very, very close to it.
Everybody thinks it's a deal, and they walk away.
And now they've got, let's see, this is Mars, April, May, three or four more months here to keep developing uranium, keep running their centrifuges, keep working toward the creation of a nuclear weapon while the talks stall and then resume and then stall, and everybody focused on a new date this summer.
It's exactly what Iran does.
And here, grab soundbite number one and two.
John Bolton, before we get back to Indiana, Mike Pence, let me get this out of the way because this is really not going to take much.
On American newsroom today, Bill Hemmer speaking with Bolton about all of this going on in Iran.
And he said, now critics say that the president's already given away too much.
Today's the day, right?
John Kerry said last night, everybody knows the meaning of tomorrow and tomorrow is today.
So what does it all mean, Mr. Bolton?
If they don't announce it today, they'll have to announce it on April Fool's Day.
They will declare success because in negotiation you never fail.
But if anybody thinks that Iran has really made any substantial concession here, they're not listening carefully enough.
And the Iranians really are never going to make substantial concessions because they're determined to get nuclear weapons.
Right.
And we're not telling them that they, the only way that, well, here, he addresses it.
Bolton said the only way we're going to stop this is to bomb them.
And we're not going to do that.
So they're going to get the weapon.
Himmer said, Well, you're taking a lot of heat, Mr. Bolton, for a piece that you put out last week.
You said to stop Iran's bomb, you've got to bomb Iran.
You think that's the only way out here?
There are only two outcomes here.
One is the most likely outcome: Iran gets nuclear weapons, whether they sign this deal or not.
I think there's a lot of common sense understanding that they are stringing us along.
Look at the prior examples where the Israelis bombed a nuclear reactor in Syria being constructed by North Korea in September of 2007.
They set Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons program back for a decade by bombing the Osirak reactor in 1981.
So, his point is, that's about the only leverage we have now is to bomb their facilities.
Probably as many of their facilities are way down there, way down underground.
It'd be tough.
You'd need one of those bunker-busting bombs.
I don't know if we still have them or if the Democrats outlawed them as being too dangerous.
But that's what it would take.
So, Bolton has become sort of a fait accompliist on this.
They're going to get it.
Negotiations never fail.
No matter what happens, you declare victory.
That's called statesmanship, by the way.
He's not accusing Obama, that's just what everybody does.
At the end of every negotiation, everybody claims victory, whether there is one or not.
Now, Bill Richardson, we've featured his sound bites on this subject the past couple of weeks.
And he was back on CNN today with Chris Kumo, and he just cannot believe what he's seeing here.
Kumo said, I know it's just optics, and I know it's oversimplification, but it does look like Iran's getting everything it wants.
Looks like they're running the table here, doesn't it?
They're running rampant.
They're moving ahead in Iraq, they're moving in Syria.
With ISIS, they are on our side, but they're causing a lot of problems in the region.
You can't trust them.
Lastly, Saudi Arabia and Israel, they're our friends.
They're not happy about this.
We've got to find a way in this interim period to get closer to the Saudis to see if we can breach this relationship, make it better with Israel, because there's just too much turmoil in the region, and we can't let Iran get away with everything it's doing in the region.
They are running rampant.
We are not stopping them.
We do not have an administration which wants to stop them.
That's what everybody seems to have trouble realizing or admitting here.
We do not have an administration that wants to stop Iran.
It's just the opposite, in fact.
There's a reason that Iran's running rampant.
It is that nobody's stopping them.
Why take that back?
The French are trying to.
Imagine that.
The French are bigger hawks than we are.
And of course, the Israelis are trying to stop it.
And even some of the other European nations in the P5 plus 1 group.
But they can't do it.
They can't do it without us.
And we're not on the same page with them.
This administration does not want to stop Iran from its ultimate aim, getting nuclear weapons.
Now, they're not trying to facilitate this happening tomorrow, but they don't want to stop it.
The current deal permits Iran in 10 years to have nuclear weapons, and it's going to rely on the power of Obama's charisma and his speeches to persuade Iran not to use the nuclear weapons that they are going to eventually either obtain or create,
produce Washington Post, Republican lawmakers Indiana promised to amend a religious liberties bill that critics have labeled as anti-gay.
It doesn't matter that the critics are full of it.
It doesn't matter that the critics are wrong.
It doesn't matter that the critics are lying about this.
It's just whatever the critics say of Republicans in Indiana.
That's what we're going to report.
We don't care if the critics are right or wrong.
We're on the side of the critics.
And of course, this is now constituting bowing to protests that have rapidly spread to several other states considering similar measures.
Indiana House Speaker Brian Bosma, Republicans, said the legislature would act as soon as this week to clarify Indiana's new Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which grants individuals and businesses legal grounds to defend themselves against claims of discrimination.
It's a shield.
Right there it is.
Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
It's a protective measure.
There's nothing granted here of an aggressive nature.
It doesn't empower anybody to go after anybody.
But this idea that there is wanton, rampant, constant, obsessive, omnivorous Christian bigotry and discrimination against gays in the marketplace is just hocus pocus.
It's as big a manufactured lie as is white cops are murdering young black kids every day in America.
And it's as big a lie as the gentle giant was just trying to surrender.
Ends up, don't shoot.
He was just wantonly murdered by this vicious, bigoted, racist, Klan-type cop.
None of it true.
Truth, it got papered over.
The truth got buried in a media avalanche of BS and lies.
I'll let you hear how Mike Pence, the governor of Indiana, dealt with all this when we get back.
And your phone calls are not far away either.
Oh, by the way, before we get to Mike Pence, you got to hear this.
This last night, NBC Nightly News grabs somebody number five.
This is just more of the same here.
More of this left-wing hate for conservatives like this Bureau of Labor Statistics babe.
Ash hack is out there saying that Christians end up voting for these conservatives, end up Nazis, and they call themselves, they vote for Christians and they end up being Nazis and so forth on her Twitter account.
She claims she was hacked.
Last night in the NBC Nightly News, Lester Holt, filling in for a paragon of truth, Brian Williams, and he had Ann Curry in there to talk about the Iran nuclear talks.
He said, what's the latest on the tough situation facing Iranian negotiators having to convince hardliners in that country to go along with the Indian?
Now, let me tell you what this means.
Lester Holt is asking Ann Curry, okay, in Iran, we got some people that want to deal with Obama.
We got some moderate, like this president Rwandi, very moderate, very modern guy, wants to do a deal.
But how many people in Iran like the Ayatollah Hamadi, these hardliners, does he have to try to convince to go along with the deal?
This is what she said.
On this critical night in these talks, what the Iranian negotiators say they really need to say yes to a deal is the ability to sell it back home.
As in the U.S., Iran has conservatives who don't trust the other side, and they are ready to pounce if they believe the negotiators give up too much.
Iran has conservatives who don't trust the other side, and they are ready to pounce if they believe the negotiators give up too much.
You know what's flawed about this?
There aren't any moderate Iranians involved in the negotiations.
That's the big joke here.
But they want to project, and they look at themselves in America, these liberals do as moderates and pragmatists.
And they always want to do what's reasonable and the right thing.
And then over here, you got guys like the governor of Indiana and the governor out there of Arizona.
You got guys on the radio like Limbaugh.
He's extreme hardline right-wingers.
And Iran has the same one.
You know who they are?
The Ayatollahs, the Mullahs, yeah.
And so somehow, some of the moderates in Iran have got to prevail with these hardliners, just like we in America have to overcome these hardliners like Ted Cruz if we want to get anything done.
It's defamatory.
It's an ongoing defamation of Republicans and conservatives that is being ratcheted up.
It's increasing, and it is being applauded and supported everywhere you look on the left.
Political, music, pop culture, wherever it is.
This defamation is continuing.
It's becoming more intense.
As far as Iran is concerned, there aren't any moderates.
The Ayatollah hominy runs the show.
The president is a figurehead when it comes to deals like this.
There aren't disagreements of opinions in Iran that are relevant.
I mean, if there's ever a moderate that surfaces and thinks the Ayatollah is off the loony bin, guess what happens?
The moderate gets stoned to death or beheaded or what have you.
The Iranian political apparatus in no way equals what we have in this country.
The American political apparatus is unique to the world.
There isn't any other, particularly in Iran.
The Ayatollah hominy tells the president what to do.
Why do you think Ahmadine Zad is no longer the president?
Why do you think he lost the election?
Why did he won the first place?
He won because that's who the Ayatollahs wanted.
The problem with the Mahmoud Ahmedini Zad, he started to give up the ghost.
Ahmedine Zad was too public in his honesty.
Remember when Ahmedini Zad came to the United Nations?
And he goes to Columbia University after receiving an invitation to come address the student body at Columbia.
It was considered to be so insightful and such a wonderful guest.
The students of Colombia should have to listen.
They should hear what this enlightened terror, new Iranian president has to say.
So he shows up, Mahmoud Ahmedinizad.
People that were close say it's obvious he doesn't take showers very often.
That's just a side thing.
A student during a Q ⁇ A asked him about freedom for homosexuals in Iran.
And he said, we don't have any in Iran.
We don't have that problem in Iran.
And some of the students at the audience at Columbia University began to chuckle.
To which Mahmoud Ahmedini Zad said, oh, did you know some?
Can you tell me where they live?
We don't have anything like that in Iran.
No, no.
Now, the Ayatollah hominy.
No, no, Mahmoud, you're not supposed to say stuff.
You're not supposed to tell the world what we're really like here.
You're supposed to scare people.
You're supposed to attack the Jews.
You go ahead and talk about wiping out Israel, but you don't go to America and tell them that we don't have any homosexuals here.
Anyway, they had to get him out of there.
They had to put somebody in that they can make look like a moderate.
And that's who Ruani is.
But the Ayatollahs, particularly the Ayollah hominy, is the singular power.
He is the supreme leader.
That's his title.
Whatever the Iranians are doing in the nuke deal is coming from the Ayatollah hominy.
And all the rest of it is PR and marketing to make idiot American reporters think they're covering America.
It's bogus.
There's no similarity whatsoever to the American political system and the Iranians, much less the fact that the Ayatollah hominy is the equivalent of somebody like Ronald Reagan or Ted Cruz.
Do you remember when Hillary Clinton said that she only used one device, emails, because it's too complicated to have turns out she used an iPad, used an iPad mini, she used a BlackBerry.
She used her laptop computer.
She had five different devices that she was using email on, folks.
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