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Feb. 11, 2015 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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February 11, 2015, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Okay, let's move on now to John Stewart because the uh the fake news said Sayonara and the real news is in trouble as well on the left.
Now there are serious discussions.
I'm not kidding, and you probably have heard them.
Serious discussions among the serious left-wing pundits and journalists that it might be time for Jon Stewart, since they tried to get him for meet the press it didn't work, to put him in there in the NBC nightly news.
If they do that, they're f and fine and dandy, whatever they do is fine with me, but it isn't news anymore.
But they won't admit that.
They will continue to try to tell everybody that they are exhibiting the highest form of journalism, that it is objective and fair when that's the last thing that's going on.
Now, what happened to Stewart shocked everybody yesterday on his show by saying he was going to retire.
Sometime this year.
The exact date of the final program not known.
There are a lot of myths about John Stewart.
You know what the biggest myth about John Stewart is that his audience is millennials.
The second big myth about Stewart's the size of his audience.
It's about a million.
But it didn't matter because the content was exactly what the pop culture dictates wanted.
The content of the Daily Show is exactly what those who policed the pop culture and declare it hip or unhip wanted it to be.
And so it was elevated to a position it actually did not achieve or attain.
But that doesn't matter because perception is reality, particularly in politics.
And if you can tell people over and over again that a program that has a relatively small audience is number one, they'll end up believing it.
And if you tell them it's the hippest and the coolest and the really hippist and coolest of the young people watch it, even though that's not true either, people will end up believing it.
What do you think the average age, according to market data research, the average age of the Daily Show viewer is 41?
That is the average age of a Daily Show viewer.
41.
That's from Bill Carter, who uh released that statistic while writing at the New York Times.
Uh so there are many myths, but I I'm not here to dispel the myths.
I'm just here to tell you about them.
But what happened to Stewart?
I mean, why I almost look at the Stewart resignation the way I look at prominent Democrats resigning as they assess the future and determine they don't want to be part of it.
For example, Henry Nostralitis Waxman, or pick your favorite Democrat.
Go back to 1994 after the Republicans won that year, and any big Republican year since, and you'll see some famous big name Democrats who only knew being in power, resigning, deciding not to run anymore.
They don't want to be in the minority.
What's what's that?
Uh Henry Nostralitis Waxman, he's had enough years being in the minority now since 1994.
He doesn't want to be part of that anymore, so he's resigning.
It's the majority or nothing.
And you can always look at these resignations, and you can always tell from those resignations what the real thinking at the deepest levels inside the Democrat Party really was about their future.
Well, I'm sort of looking at the Stewart resignation in the same way.
If you look at the Democrat Party right now, and if you pay attention to what the uh cognizante, the Democrat Party are talking about, it's Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, maybe Elizabeth Warren, maybe a bit Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton.
Uh Maybe the thinking in certain circles is that Democrats are not going to win the White House again.
Maybe the thinking in certain circles is that the damage done by Obama is real.
They have not succeeded in papering it over.
The 2010 to 2014 midterms are clear evidence, the American voter, those who care enough to show up and vote are not all in for the Democrat Party agenda.
That is abundantly clear.
It is abundantly clear the Democrat Party agenda is advanced against the will of the people.
The Barack Obama agenda does not enjoy majority popular support of the people in this country.
And it hasn't for a long time.
And there's no dispute.
I mean, you can argue with me if you want, but you will lose because it is inarguable.
Over half the people, I would guess that voted for Barack Obama regret it now, although they might not say so because of the racial component, but they regret it because this is the last thing they thought was going to happen.
They thought it was going to be unity and love and no more racism and no more sexism and everybody getting along and no more terrorism because Obama was so wonderful and so he's going to end all that, and now all of that is worse than ever.
People are working 30 hours maximum a week as they're converted to part-time because of Obamacare.
People can't afford Obamacare unless they can get subsidies, and that's becoming a hassle.
None of this was what was promised to them.
None of this.
Student loan debt is skyrocketing.
Junior college, community college is not going to be given away ostensibly, but people are smart enough to understand that's going to cost them.
What's happening on American college campuses is not education, it's indoctrination or what have you.
There's not an overwhelming happiness.
Blanketing the country.
Everybody's worried about something.
Something doesn't seem right.
A lot of some things don't seem right.
Much seems really wrong.
To some people, it is a failure of the American system.
Many millennials, sadly, think the American system is failing.
Not that it's the fault of a Democrat Party and its agenda or its president, which it is.
The vast majority of problems in this country are traceable to policy implementations of the Obama administration.
And by extension, the Republican Party sitting idly by and not doing much to stop them other than Obamacare.
The American Constitution has not failed anybody.
The American dream has not failed anybody.
The American system has not failed anybody.
The current implementation of policy has failed people.
And of course, those who are responsible for implementing this policy are not blaming themselves.
They're trying to blame Republicans or racism or sexism or bigotry or capitalism or freedom or what have you, but the last thing they'll do is blame themselves.
And so in the news business and in the pop culture and in the drive-by media, the truth of what's gone wrong in this country is hard to find.
And so people are left to stew in in a sense of malaise, maybe miseraby, miserably, uh unhappiness, uh, what whatever.
People know it just this isn't right.
This is not how it's supposed to be.
This is not what growing up was supposed to be like, people are saying now as they hit their 30s and 40s.
And I think that if you happen to be a leftist, there are those brief flashes of reality that permeate, and you realize all this is true.
You realize that the implementation of every policy you hold dear is an abject failure.
You realize that everything you believe in that has come to pass, become law, been implemented.
National health care is not what it was gonna be.
It's not anywhere close to what you thought it was gonna be.
There isn't a utopia, there isn't overwhelming happiness.
If you are an honest leftist, and maybe even a dishonest leftist that uh gets hit with honesty on a split second or two, three or four times a day, you may realize that it isn't what I thought it was gonna be.
So if you're in the media, and your job is to make the media or make the news and the stuff going on in the country fun, but you don't see anything.
You just see, you just you see misery and you see unhappiness, and you see people that are in various stages of disquiet.
You might think, I don't even want to try to crack jokes about this anymore.
And by the way, after 16 years, what is there left for Jon Stewart to blame on the Republicans?
What's new?
For 16 years, John Stewart's blamed everything gone wrong on the Republicans.
What's left to blame on them?
Particularly the last six years when they haven't been in power, haven't been able to stop anything.
John Stewart was all in for Barack Obama.
The man who lied about Obamacare.
The man who turned careers into part-time jobs, the man who took smiles off of people's faces, Barack Obama.
John Stewart was all in for Barack Obama.
The man who made health insurance unaffordable with sky-high deductibles and out-of-pockets.
John Stewart was all in for that guy.
The man who's made it next to impossible to pay back unaffordable student loans in his part-time economy.
Barack Obama.
John Stewart was all in for Barack Obama.
Barack Obama was the answer.
Barack Obama was the hero.
Barack Obama was going to fix everything.
And while all this has been going on, John Stewart is as lampooned and impugned and destroyed and taken out as many Republicans as he can when they haven't had a thing to do with this, except now and then standing aside and letting it happen.
John Stewart has helped to polarize the country by poisoning the Republican brand.
Oh, yes, he's had a very clear role in that.
He's not the only one.
They poisoned the Republican brand at ABC.
They poisoned the Republican brand at NBC.
They poisoned the Republican brand and the conservative brand at NBC and CBS in the Washington Post and the New York Times and at Comedy Central.
They have all done it.
They've ignored scandal after scandal because Jon Stewart and ABC, NBC, CBS are liberals first, and in his case, a comedian second.
This is right, that's fine and dandy.
But look where his candidates and look where his party has taken the country.
nothing worth bragging about out there.
There's not one policy that if you're a Democrat and you elected Obama and you supported Obama, there's nothing going on in America you feel like bragging about, is there?
Except maybe if you think conservatives are running around all miserable and unhappy, if that makes you happy, then yeah, you can brag about that.
But aside from what you think you've done to destroy conservatives, where is there anything to brag about?
Unless you actually believe this country needs to be torn apart and transformed.
Unless you actually hate capitalism and you think that there have been great inroads made in destroying it, maybe, but that's not something you can run around brag about because you're in the minority.
Most people do not want the country destroyed.
Most people don't want capitalism destroyed.
Most people think capitalism is where the American dream lives.
So you can't run around and brag about that, so what are you going to brag about?
The readings brag about it.
Stewart's a funny guy, but he lacks an appreciation of federalism, and he lacks an understanding of the harm caused by Obama's cult of personality that also sucked him in.
Stewart fell hard for it, just like David Brooks did.
And still has.
And any number of people.
And Jon Stewart is not alone, but Jon Stewart helped grease the tracks for the most destructive presidency in many of our lifetimes.
And because he was able to make some people laugh while all this destruction Took place.
He's hailed as a political genius and a great journalist.
And said to be eminently qualified to host Meet the Press.
Well, fine, but that says more about NBC than it does John Stewart.
Now the Democrats love John Stewart.
He was an immense help to them.
Except John Stewart's party got landslided twice when Barack Obama had nothing to do with the ticket.
If you're a liberal Democrat and you're the drive-by media, if you're a comedian, you're getting shellacked by people that should be in your audience.
Even though you may laugh and make fun of people in Midwest and the South, you still don't mind if they're in your audience, even if they won't admit it, but you want the bodies.
But when these people finally speak up, the only way they can right now in elections, your side's taking it on the chin.
The Democrat side's getting select.
Just too bad the Republican Party, party benefiting from these elections doesn't know what to do with the victories.
But that doesn't change the fact that your party, the Democrats, are getting shellacked, despite your best efforts, making Republicans look like fools.
They're still winning landslide elections.
It's been a bad six years for America.
Been a very good six years for Jon Stewart and the left-wingers, but maybe they're thinking, I don't want to carry Hillary Clinton's water.
If that's what this job is going to make me do, I don't want to do it.
Hillary Clinton, are you kidding me?
I can't get rid of Hillary Clinton.
She's been on the scene, and she's the front runner, and she's what everybody says we got to elect.
She's going to be the next president.
I can't sit here and ignore Hillary Clinton every night and not make jokes about her, but that's going to be the job, because I can't make jokes about Democrats.
That may be the way Stewart's thinking.
I don't know.
But one thing I'm relatively sure of, folks, as is the case in most anything.
Things are not what they seem, particularly in the areas of conventional wisdom and pop culture.
And we'll take a time out.
We'll get started with your phones when we get back.
Don't go away.
Let me give you one example.
Slight example of what I've been talking about.
I give you two.
You remember there was a uh school shooting or shooting in a movie, I forget what it in Colorado.
And the first thing that uh Brian Ross at ABC News did, it found the name of the shooter.
They had that, but they didn't know anything about the guy.
First thing Brian Rod Ross did, ABC's investigative ace reporter was check the names of members of Tea Party organizations in Colorado.
And he found somebody on a Tea Party roster that had the same name as the shooter.
And so he goes on the air without knowing a thing, without knowing whether that's the same guy, he goes on the air and says, now we've found this name here at a Tea Party.
They were desperate for the shooter to be a conservative Republican.
And they know full well all they got to do is present the original speculation.
People are gonna hear it as fact, and then you come along later and say it wasn't a Tea Party guy, it's the same name but a different person.
Too late, damage done.
Have you heard about the guy in North Carolina who shot three Muslims?
Yeah, it was over a parking dispute.
It was not backlash against Muslims.
But the moment it happened, a drive-by media was salivating.
They couldn't wait to give this shining example of the exact thing the president has been warning about, and that is white Christians taking out their revenge and anger on innocent Muslims.
Well, it turns out this story is gonna be in the ether pretty soon.
The drive-by is they're gonna let this story go into the ether and never talk about it again pretty soon, and that's why I want you to know something about it.
Because the drive-by's have been drooling all morning, and this story is going to be out of sight very soon.
All morning long, the drive-by is eagerly.
They were all over Twitter, Facebook, blaming Republicans, Christians, conservatives.
It turns out that a review of the Facebook page of the man charged in these murders, his name is Craig Hicks.
His Facebook page shows a consistent theme of anti-religion and support of progressive causes.
The guy's a liberal.
Included in his many Facebook likes are the Huffing and Puffington Post, Rachel Manow, the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is about as far left wing insane as you can get.
The Freedom from Religion Foundation, Bill Nye, the science guy who's not a science guy, Neil de Grasse Tyson, and gay marriage groups.
And a host of anti-conservative Tea Party pages.
The guy that shot the three Muslims in a parking dispute is a raging liberal.
He was not and is not a conservative, a Republican, a Christian, or any of the other usual suspects, the left hopes and prays these people are.
And so since this has been learned about this guy, I wanted to pass this on because this story is going to vanish.
And I you're not you're not going to hear about this on the comedy shows.
This is going to be something that never happened in just a few hours.
We'll be back right after this.
Time to get started on the phones, and we go to Apple Valley, Minnesota.
This is uh this is John.
Thank you for waiting.
I appreciate your patience and hello.
Hi, Rush.
Thanks for taking my call.
I listen almost every day.
Um What do you mean almost?
Well, you know, sometimes I can't.
No excuse.
Then I then I read it on your web page.
Well, that okay, then you don't miss.
You can get the podcast, or is any there's any number, there's no excuse for for missing a day's broadcasting, that's very true.
Um back a few years ago, or or and I don't remember what exactly it was in reference to, but you talked about there's going to be some small thing that comes along that maybe exposes um I don't know if it was bias in the media or whatever.
You said it wasn't gonna be any big catastrophe, you know, colossus anything.
I'm wondering if you think this NBC problem and the John Stewart thing, if that's maybe the small thing that's maybe going to No, I don't.
Uh I I th that this is not enough to uh cause an earthquake to befall the Democrat Party.
Uh what I remembered, it wasn't that long ago either, and I was it was in the midst of a uh a series of phone calls that were coming there, people very frustrated, thinking it was over, that would we've lost too much ground that that there's there's I remember people saying Rush, okay, so we stop them today, we gotta stop them ten more times tomorrow, and then the next day after that because they're relentless and never stop.
And we're never gonna be doing anything but stopping.
We're never gonna be advancing.
And that's when I said, I understand the sentiment, and I and but I think it's all gonna end up okay.
Uh maybe not in my lifetime.
It's just I've got faith that the country is gonna hang on.
The people of country are gonna rally at some point.
And I was I mentioned that what you're talking about is that some small thing that nobody can possibly predict.
It isn't gonna be a major earthquake event, it's gonna be little tiny thing like the assassination of King Ferdinand led to World War One.
Nobody would have ever it's gonna be, I don't mean an assassination, but that triggering world war, it was just nobody foresaw it.
I'm thinking that something small and tiny in in proportion is going to happen to shake people's faith uh in in what they have grown totally dependent on.
Well, don't you think that this might um tell me how the low information crowd to to actually start questioning a little bit about what they're listening to?
Uh let's take Brian Williams, being a low information crowd might now be saying, wait a minute, is everybody lying to us?
Uh Uh should we start distrusting everybody?
Uh is that what you're thinking this might make happen?
Yeah, or just, you know, maybe take into account, you know, if they hear little snippets of something from Fox News or from you that they don't just automatically discard it as, oh, well, that's the, you know, that's the right wing, but maybe there's some truth to what they're talking about on there.
I have been waiting for that.
I can't I I wish that happened every day.
That exact uh thing you're talking about.
Uh because I know that every day, well, maybe not every day, but let's say let's say I say something and uh the drive bys find it intriguing, or they think it's explosive, so they put it out there in a in a manner designed to harm me and my integrity and credibility.
I've been longing for the day where that doesn't work anymore.
But people actually tune in and hear it for themselves and find out they're being lied to about it.
I I d I don't I don't foresee that happening in this instance.
Um, I don't you know the the thing about the low information crowd is I don't think the low information crowd's watching NBC Nightly News.
That's that's they're not the low information crowd is that far removed uh from the traditional old standard journalism presentation.
The low information crowds watching TMZ and e-entertainment TV entertainment tonight, uh, and they're getting their news online from who knows where Facebook, you know, the news digest on Facebook.
You would not well, you might, but you wouldn't believe a number of people to think that's the news.
And it's just what other people are telling everybody and each other.
So no, I I don't think this is gonna be the um the tipping point, but I I do think that it is a small little example of left-wing media experiencing a little implosion.
Uh and because there is now attention, a lot of attention in certain quarters to how things are made up, lied about, and can be.
For your theory to actually be usable here, Williams would have had to have been telling lies about conservatives that have been revealed as lies.
What he did was lie about himself and insert himself into stories that I mean his his uh transgressions could not be said to be ideological in nature, uh other other than he's a lib and this is what libs do.
But uh I think this is one of many things that'll add up over time and have an impact.
But this as the tipping point, I don't think is it.
But I appreciate the call.
This is uh see, Greg in Pensacola, Florida.
You're next.
I'm glad you waited.
Welcome to the program, sir.
Yeah, Rush.
You know, uh uh Williams now we know is a serial liar, who those didn't know that before.
Um but if we got comedy coming to the news or so-called news, um, how about make a revolving door?
Uh Williams needs to go to something like Saturday Night Live.
Let's take news and put news into comedy because this guy really, I mean, unless he becomes either the president or a professor, he has no real job, but you know, uh in his future.
But I think uh put him on Saturday Night Live, he'd be brilliant.
He could do the old days.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, wait.
Let me correct you.
Now let's take a look at this suspension.
Follow me on this.
The suspension is six months, essentially.
That takes us to when September.
What is happening in September?
No, it's not well, no, not the beginning of the presidential.
No, no, no, no, no.
In pop culture news, what's happening in September?
Colbert is taking over for Letterman, debuting in September.
So if Williams gets suspended through September, what would it be?
Would it be surprising if his first appearance before even showing back up on NBC News is to show up on the first Colbert show and do his Meia Kalpas and gee, I'm sorry, and oh my God, and here's what I've been doing, and I love everybody.
And the next night he's on the NBC Nightly News.
Can you see that?
I mentioned that scenario to a friend of mine last night, and they said, Man, you are thinking so far ahead down the road on this, but does that not make the order?
I mean, here's here here's Williams had to cancel Letterman tomorrow night.
He was scheduled to be on Letterman, not gonna be on Letterman, but in September, Colbert debut is on Letterman.
So this September appearance could be Brian Williams coming out.
What?
Are who in Williams Friends?
Oh, yeah, they're friends, yeah.
Williams is friends with with the whole New York uh Lib Media.
Oh, yes, but he's been Brian Williams has made it a point to I look for the terms uh he has made it a point to uh get to know all these people and work them.
In fact, you p you may not know this.
This the the Greg, you you're on to something more than you may even be aware of.
But not too many years ago, when Jay Leno was going to retire, or when it was known that he was going to retire, Brian Williams went to the bosses at NBC News and asked for the tonight show.
He asked to be let out of the nightly news and be given the tonight show because he fashions himself a comedian and an entertainer.
And they said, No, you're gonna stay in the news.
But he wanted the tonight show.
So I I think what ought to happen, I think move Brian Williams to Saturday Night Live and move that cast to the NBC Nightly News and call it Every Night Live.
And have a Saturday Night Live crew do the 6.30 news, have Brian Williams do Saturday Night Live as the Saturday Nightly News on NBC at 1130.
Just reverse them.
And make it official.
You know, put putting let Lauren Michaels have the nightly news at six days.
They've always wanted that to be an hour, right?
The networks have always wanted the nightly news to be an hour, not a half hour.
Okay, NBC, follow through on it, dudes.
Give Lauren Michaels the nightly news, make it an hour and bring the Saturday Night Live cast in and make it every night live.
Don't call it the NBC Nightly News.
Don't just call it every night live instead of Saturday Night Live.
And then when Brian Williams comes back, moves him, move him to Saturday at uh at 11.30, let him doesn't matter what he says then.
Now, one more thing here, uh ladies and gentlemen, Brian Williams.
I don't think he's ever coming back.
My my guess is that this six-month suspension, they're not through investigating.
They're there's there are still things surfacing, things that he's been discovered to have lied about and made up.
And there are all kinds of investigations.
ABC's got their own investigation going.
NBC has its own internal investigation going.
So what are they gonna do here?
They're gonna see how Lester Holt does as the fill-in anchor.
They're gonna see can he maintain the numbers that they had or maybe grow them?
Probably not.
So the next thing that's gonna happen, you'll see a number of people who will be that they'll be called replacements, uh, temporary sit-ins for Lester Holt, maybe Savannah Guthrie one week or a couple of nights.
They'll use this six months ahead to audition to find the next person they want to put in that chair if they want to keep the news as the news, if they don't want to make any changes.
I still think they should consider my idea of giving it half hour to Lauren Michaels, then asking their affiliates for another half hour, make it a one-hour show, 6.30, get back to the original roots of television, make it a live every night live show with the Saturday Night Live cast moving to every night live at 6.30 or 7, whenever they do it.
And then, you know, you could leave your Saturday night 11.30 option open.
You could put up a new show or move Brian Williams in there to do whatever he wants to do.
He makes things up there, it doesn't matter.
Uh But I I don't see I don't I don't see him coming back.
Well I think that's one of the reasons why this suspension without pay and why it's uh six months in uh in duration.
Now let me look at the audio soundbite roster here.
So if anything uh well grab number six.
This one this one uh maybe it's too inside baseball to me.
This is a montage of various people last night and this morning talking about the pioneer John Stewart uh is or was Stewart blends political commentary with satire.
Roundbreaking news satire.
John Stewart, who was revolutionized and pioneered a new form of news and satire.
It's some satire, it's some just stupid gags, it's at times straight out commentary.
Stuart was able to combine wit and intelligence.
He's revolutionized the news or satire or whatever it is in an unbelievable way.
He may be the Mark Twain of our time.
Man.
But that last was Frank Cesno, by the way, who used to be at uh CNN.
They do believe it.
Every absolute they believe every word they said here.
This is part of the illusion that they've created.
They damn well believe this.
I they believe everything that they said, they firmly believe, even though it isn't true.
Mark Twain, well no, I'm not talking about the Mark Twain business.
I'm not talking about this.
But the the the fact that nobody had ever before combined humor and satire and serious commentary.
Let's see what's next.
Uh oh, it's you you think they don't believe it?
Listen to this is David Zurawick.
He is the Baltimore Sun TV critic.
He was on CNN's New Day Today, and he was asked a question.
It's interesting to see as we talk about Brian Williams first in a very low point of his career, probably the lowest in his career, and yet we see John Stewart going out at the height of his career, going out on top.
That's refreshing in this business to see someone of that stature go out on top.
I couldn't agree more.
You know, I I went to bed last night thinking is he as important as Johnny Carson?
And I woke up thinking he's more important than Johnny Carson.
He changed the culture.
He taught us to think about politics in a different way.
He made it part of primetime entertainment.
See, that folks is this is classic liberals kissing each other's posteriors.
Say what you want about John Stewart, but he did not teach anybody to think about politics in a different way.
John Stewart cemented liberal thinking about politics.
That's not thinking about politics in a new way.
That's what the media's always done.
He taught us to think about politics in a different way.
No, he didn't.
If John Stewart, if you want to credit John Stewart for teaching people think about politics in a new way, then he would have had to champion conservatives or somebody other than Liberal Democrats.
But who in the media doesn't champion Obama?
Who in the media does not champion Nancy Pelosi or Feinstein or Harry Reed, you name it.
Who in the media does not celebrate champion and promote the Democrat Party?
So John Stewart was the latest of countless others who have, and they call that revolutionary.
It wasn't revolutionary about it.
There was certainly nothing new about how to look at politics.
Stewart's way was like everybody else in the drive-by.
Democrats great, Republicans, conservatives, racist sex is big, it's homophobes.
What was new about it?
This is what I mean about the myth making that has taken place.
And it m bigger than Crypto, more important than Carson.
But see, no, that no, that that's just this guy saying my generation is more important than my parents or grandparents.
That's just this Baltimore TV critic.
Yeah, my comedian was more important than my dad's comedian.
My my comedian was more important than my grandparents' community.
My generation is more important than my parents.
that's all that is.
That's just uh Homerism.
Um he had an audience of a million, but what they will tell you is that you can't just look at the audience uh of people who watched television, because so many millennials, which another myth make up the majority of that audience, which they don't.
Uh but the the the the way to counter the way they counter the fact that the audience is only a million people.
Yeah, but look at the people streaming it the next day.
Look at the people watching it online on their iPhones and iPads the next day, dwarfing the number of people watch on T. That's what they tell that's how they try to get you to think the audience is bigger than a million.
But it isn't.
But there's no win in saying that.
That's that's the but it's the way it is.
I'm laughing, taught us to think about politics in a different way.
There isn't a liberal media program that has ever done that.
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