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	Yes, America's anchor man is away, and this is your undocumented anchor man sitting in live from Ice Station EIB, uh just a few moments south of the uh Quebec border, in the northern eastern part of this great continent.
	Uh if you're fleeing the country, uh do swing by and say hello, you can't miss us, there's a big sign on the highway saying uh last rush guest host before the border.
	We always love to see you.
	So you see do uh do do drop by I I feel more foreign, I have to say, than I usually do reading these reports of what actually happened over the weekend.
	Uh 'cause I I don't even understand what's going on.
	Uh there was an election a month ago, and the old and the old Congress, the old legislature is still there.
	This is the only country that happens in.
	And uh in other in other countries, uh i if you Australia that's in the news today, uh when an Australian Prime Minister loses an election, he moves out of his official residence within twenty-four hours and the new guy moves in.
	Uh same thing in Canada, uh same thing in uh London, when Mrs. Thatcher was defenestrated in nineteen ninety, boom, she's out, new person's in.
	Um here here you've got this like two month layover.
	Uh so that's roughly equivalent uh to to ten percent of the full term for which the Congress has been elected.
	And what's what's the reason for that, Mr. Snerdley?
	Is it because it was back in the old days before they invented the telegraph or whatever uh that that's ha that's based on how long it took to uh to ride a horse from the most remote congressional district uh to get to Washington in order to take your seat.
	Is that the idea?
	There's a there's a two month yeah.
	So in in other words, uh in those days there may have been a reason for it, because the guy would win his election, then he'd have to get on his horse and ride all the way to Washington to take his seat.
	And now everybody's flying around in all these private jets.
	Actually government jets, if you like uh Nancy Pelosi and uh and half these other big shots.
	Uh you're all flying around in government planes and they get there in nothing flat.
	Yet we still have this two month layover.
	Why?
	Uh these are the ki guys who've been kicked out of office.
	Why why would you do a spending bill with Harry Reed's Senate rather than wait for Mitch McConnell's Senate?
	I mean that that makes no sense.
	The the budget, again, and and don't uh don't explain all the rules to me, because the rules mean nothing.
	Everybody picks and chooses rules, and when you pick and choose rules, that means there are no rules.
	The budget is supposed to be voted on uh in September.
	That's only happened, I believe, twice in the last two decades.
	So nobody votes on the budget in September anymore.
	That doesn't happen.
	That's gone.
	That rule doesn't matter.
	And yet somehow uh the people who've just been kicked out of office, when you do decide to vote on the budget uh for the year, the people who've just been kicked out of office get to vote on it.
	That makes no sense whatsoever.
	And Larry in uh North Carolina uh was wondering what the point of all this was.
	What's the point of going and voting for these guys?
	Nothing is gonna change.
	Nothing is gonna change, and and uh until you have Republican leadership uh that uh that that wants transparent government.
	Because when you have all when when they do this stuff in the clear light of the day, uh light of day, people see what's going on.
	When it's all in these multi thousand page bills, it favors corrupt government.
	Nothing good can come of it.
	Nothing good can come of it.
	Uh there should not be sixteen hundred page bills.
	Uh they should have laws that ordinary people can read.
	Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
	That's supposed to be a basic understanding.
	If you get into trouble on the streets of New York, uh you're supposed to know that it's illegal uh for a freeborn person to sell loose cigarettes on the streets of New York.
	You're supposed to know that.
	There are a bazillion laws, uh, and you're supposed to know all of them.
	And if you don't, uh then it can work out fatally for you.
	You're supposed to know that there's some rinky dink little law about not selling cigarettes uh loose on the streets of New York.
	You're supposed to be you're supposed Well, they kill you for it doesn't matter, they can kill you for anything, Mr. Snarly, because the the point is there's now a bazillion regulations.
	The the Department of Paperwork.
	I said on uh I said on this show some years ago I walked I walked on air uh and uh I flew down to New York to do the show from where Mr. Snardley is right now, and I said I just received a letter that morning uh from the New York State Bureau of Compliance telling me that I was in non compliance with the New York State Bureau of Compliance and the fine for that was twelve thousand dollars or something.
	Seemed an awfully round figure to me.
	And uh so I said I was taking my life in my hands by flying to New York to to guest host uh to to guest host for Rush.
	And uh and you never know.
	The guy who enforces the Bureau of Compliance noncompliance law can come up to you in the street, uh maybe they've got a SWAT team, everybody is a SWAT team.
	Uh every little rinky dink paper pusher has his own SWAT team.
	And uh so every little m violation of the law, you can be dead if they if if if the Department of Paperwork SWAT team comes up and quizzes you about it on the streets.
	You're supposed ignorance of the law is no excuse.
	The people who pass the laws of this nation are the most ignorant of all.
	This sixteen hundred page bill.
	Who read it?
	I I'm looking at a story that quotes Senator Orin Hatch, Senator Jeff Flake, Senator Johnny Isaacson, Senator Harry Reed, Senator this, Senator that.
	How many of the one hundred senators do you think read this sixteen hundred page bill?
	Uh they're all going from uh staffers.
	The staffers looked at it.
	Do you think how many of their staffers read it?
	How many of their staffers read it?
	Uh actually, the whole thing, start to finish.
	So what you have you can't have clean government like that.
	That's how you end up with special favors for Blue Cross Blue Shield in uh in a bill that's supposed to be about government spending.
	Blue Cross Blue Shield Special Favors has got nothing to do with government spending.
	That should be in the Blue Cross Blue Shield Special Favours bill, instead of on page sixteen hundred and two of a continuing resolution for government spending through September.
	This is this is uh this is dirty government.
	This this does not pass the smell test.
	And uh nothing will change.
	Nothing will change.
	I remember speaking at a dinner, uh Kay Bailey Hutchison was sitting uh just to my left, and I got up and I said with respect to the Senator that these multi thousand page bills were uh abhorrent uh to responsible government and to the a citizenry that's supposed to be an informed and engaged citizenry that knows what it's voting on.
	So everybody goes and votes on November the fourth, and they discover a month later that they've voted for some special favor for Blue Cross Blue Shield, touched tuck tucked into page sixteen hundred and two of a bill that's supposedly about government spending, and nothing will ever change.
	I uh uh I don't even understand it.
	So I'd like I'd like one of you native born chappies to call up and talk me through what it actually means.
	Uh Mr. Snerdley sent me this story this morning from the Associated Press, right?
	So that's in every newspaper in the country by Donna Cassata.
	Ted Cruz's moves on spending bill, Royal Republicans.
	I can't make head or tail of it.
	I can't understand it.
	I can't understand everyone's mad with Ted Cruz.
	My own Senator, Republican Senator from New Hampshire, Kelly Ayo is mad with Ted Cruz because she booked tickets with her daughter to go and see the nutcracker.
	And instead uh she's uh having to uh s spend her weekend in Washington watching the Republican uh caucus fail to crack any nuts whatsoever.
	And uh and uh she's mad at him, Orin Hatch is mad at him.
	Um Johnny Isaacson, Republican of Georgia, is mad at Ted Cruz.
	Isaacson said it was a movie he had seen before and wouldn't have paid money to see it again.
	Uh and they're they're saying that uh for some reason, because Ted Cruz wanted a vote on the unconstitutionality of the immigration uh moves by the President.
	The President has unilaterally rewritten US immigration law.
	He doesn't have the power to do that, but that rule doesn't matter.
	That that that's that that that that that doesn't matter.
	He did it.
	He did it.
	This is why, by the way, why things trend Democrat, because Democrats just do what they want.
	And they don't worry about w about the rules.
	So he j he does the President's idea of law is what he can get away with.
	And so he figures he can get away with this immigration amnesty and that what he can get away with trumps the US Constitution.
	And he's right about that, because when Ted Cruz had his vote, he lost seventy four twenty two.
	So in other words, uh people even people who claim to find what the President did unconstitutionally are stringing along with him for the moment 'cause they don't want to look bad and they want people to think they're shutting down the government, or and they don't want to be seen being friendly to Ted Cruz and all the rest of it.
	So all these the majority of the Republican caucus in the United States Senate uh d actually is willing to string along on the unconstitutionality.
	Unconstitutionality.
	It's not just a policy difference.
	It's about whether the President has the right to do it, whether he's acting beyond the law like some Latin American Caldee or uh Kim Jong un when he has one of his uncles executed over in Pyongyang or some of these other uh one man states.
	Uh the president thinks it's a one man state and what he does trumps what the legislature does.
	And uh and seventy-four uh of the one hundred United States Senators are cool with that.
	But uh but the vote was delayed because Harry Reed then made amazingly scheduled uh all these uh votes on various Obama nominees.
	Uh in other words, uh there was a vote on the guy for uh uh immigration and customs uh who would be for for um what's it called, ICE.
	The uh associated press story gets the initials wrong.
	They change it to CIE, but it's ICE, I think.
	He'll be the guy who'll who's carrying out Obama's executive actions.
	And so Harry Reid shoved in all these all these what does this even mean?
	What does this mean?
	This this this uh everyone thinks all this Byzantine procedural folder all is all extremely clever.
	It's not, it's dirty, it's corrupt, it's filthy.
	Uh and it's no way for a free-born peoples to legislate its laws.
	Uh and that is what's wrong with it, and that is why it doesn't matter.
	Uh electing uh John Boehner and Mitch McConnell uh to the highest offices if we get still the same multi thousand page bills, uh with still still the same special favors that nobody has read before they vote on it, with all kinds of stuff basically now every bill has to be passed before you find out what's in it.
	And that's what's wrong, that's what's wrong with it.
	And it's in a two-party system where one party has decided that the law means what it can get away with.
	There ought to be another party that at least stands for integrity and transparency and laws that are short and are about what they purport to be and are read by the legislators who impose them on the people.
	And if that's too much to ask for, then this country is done.
	Mark Stein for Rush, back in a moment.
	Mark Stein for Rush on America's number one radio show.
	Let us go to Mark in uh Moran, Pennsylvania.
	Do I did I say the name of that town correctly, uh, Mark?
	Moran.
	Yes, Moran, Pennsylvania.
	Great.
	Great to have you with us.
	What's on your mind today?
	Well, you know, uh, coincidentally, uh Diane F Diane Feinstein released this report last week.
	A one-sided report, albeit.
	And I'm not linking this guy in uh Sydney with her release in the report.
	Coincidence, I guess.
	But you know, we're supposed to have all this transparency.
	She wants a leak ever or you know, the country's dirtied laundry.
	How about the fact that she you know her and her husband don't have the same last names?
	He's gotten all these no bid contracts in the federal government over the years.
	He got a Halliburton contract when she was bashing um Dick Cheney for six hundred and fifty million dollars.
	Right.
	He's gotten all this money.
	No non disclosures.
	No big contracts.
	There's absolutely no transparency with the Democrat Party.
	Well, that goes that goes back to what I was uh was saying earlier as well about the uh the the Swedes come by their big government honestly, and uh what's happening here uh doesn't.
	But uh you you said that this CIA report uh isn't connected necessarily connected with what's happening.
	I'm not gonna accusation.
	No, no, I I'll I'll tell I'll I'll I'll tell you how it's connected, Mark.
	What what that report does, and Diane Feinstein, who in some ways is one of the least uh ideologically insane members of the United States Senate on the Democrat side, you know, compared to Elizabeth Warren, who's uh uh uh r is is uh running as an extreme left winger openly.
	Diane Feinstein isn't, and she likes to be taken seriously on national security issues.
	What she has done in that CIA report.
	All kinds of American allies, including Australia, uh, but also including countries in Europe and the Middle East and uh the uh Indian subcontinent and elsewhere, uh cooperated with the United States in the years after nine eleven.
	And they did so on the understanding that what they were doing uh to support and to help the United States uh would would uh remain a secret.
	War is an ugly business at the best of times, and you have to do things in war.
	You have to do things to your enemies.
	If you want to win wars as opposed to just having them drag on for decades inconsequentially, you have to do things that are serious.
	Well like the guy from Georgia, I think called in.
	We you know, we just keep voting for him hoping that the the Republicans are gonna, you know, have some walnuts and stand up to these people.
	Right.
	And and and they continue to just you know, throw it in our face.
	They're really no different than the Diane Feinsteins of the world that will, you know, they'll take all the money, but they'll criticize everything else for actions they've been taking.
	And I'll let um just while one more thing.
	No, no, no, one one one thing on one thing on that though, Mark.
	They they were different.
	They were the Republicans were different after.
	What in ninety four, ninety five when no, I'm I'm talking about now about this CIA report.
	On nine eleven, I was very glad that George W. Bush uh was president and not Al Gore.
	Uh and I was very glad that uh that America reacted seriously in those first few months to what was happening.
	And I'm very glad that Dick Cheney, uh as he was saying on the Sunday shows, that they were serious about getting information of these guys.
	When they got these fellas uh and they got them in their custody, they were serious about getting information out of them.
	Because that's the only way you prevent things like this thing in Sydney happening.
	Uh is if you if if you interrogate the people you do have and uh something leads you to uh the start of a thread and you pull on that thread and it leads to some guy over in London, and that leads to some guy over in Yemen, and that leads to some guy over in uh in in uh in uh wherever who's planning to do something to you.
	The only way you can you can you can stop these guys is if you're serious when you i when you get hold of them uh and you interrogate them that you get valuable information out of that.
	And and actually, Mark, you know, uh nobody cares about this, uh the Diane Feinstein thing.
	It's going nowhere.
	It's got no traction.
	People can the left can bleat all the time about how, oh, it's a great shame we have to have this enhanced interrogation.
	Do you know they have they they blast the audio book of ha at Gidmo, they were blasting the audio book of Harry Potter to these poor little jihadists.
	How culturally insensitive is that that you're some goat herd uh from uh from p pusht and goat herd who's been picked up in Afghanistan and they take you to Gitmo and you're doing this culturally insensitive thing of playing playing the Harry Potter audio book to you to uh uh to to audibly disorient you.
	Oh, that's terrible.
	That's terrible.
	Well the best the best response to this is that have you ever seen that film uh that uh Sasha Baron Cohen made, Mark, called The Dictator?
	No.
	Where it's got a very funny scene where he's being tortured by the Americans and he's going he he's he's like an Arab dictator and he's being tortured by the Americans, and he's going, Oh, are you still using this one?
	The Saudis have moved on to the new model.
	Everybody else in the world uh uh uses serious torture.
	Uh we uh we play Harry Potter audio books loudly uh to Gitmo detainees and the left goes bananas.
	It's pathetic, Mark.
	Speaking of uh movies, you mentioned the one I don't uh you were talking about earlier today with Sony that they made it.
	Yeah.
	And did you see when they leaked the emails that the female the females that were you know, starring in the movie were not paid as much as the men.
	Right.
	That's gr that's great.
	Thanks, thanks uh thanks for reminding me about that.
	I love it.
	They talk a good game, all these all these uh Hollywood liberals, but actually when it comes to it, when it comes to it, uh they're pulling all this stuff behind you at their back.
	Because there's actually no equality at Hollywood.
	That's pure star power.
	I'm better than you.
	I get more money than you.
	I don't care what identity group you belong to, I'm me and I get more money than you.
	I wish they applied that theory of uh uh of the paramount individual uh in uh in their actual work, but they don't.
	We'll talk more about that on the Rush Limbaugh show straight ahead.
	Mark Stein uh in for Rush.
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	I d I'd I t as I mentioned at the beginning of the show, uh I talk to Rush about the saddest elections are the ones that turn out not to matter, like the 2010 election.
	The 2010 election was a big popular pushback against the Obama uh uh against the whole Obama project, and Obama said, Eh, I don't care, I'm gonna do what I want anyway.
	And people said it didn't matter because uh, you know, Republicans only controlled one house, so what could they do?
	Now uh we have another big pushback four years later, and this time it's John Bayner saying, eh, it doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's business as usual, business as usual.
	There's gotta be a change.
	There's gotta be a change.
	Elections, it's a bad thing.
	It's a bad thing to teach the electorate that uh uh elections don't have any consequences.
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	I just want to follow up on uh uh something I was talking about with Mark uh when he was bringing up that CIA report, and I was talking about America's allies, who all helped people like the Aussies uh and uh and uh a lot of murkier American allies uh in particularly in the Middle East and in Asia, who all helped out in in the period after nine eleven, and they did so on the understanding that they w they were intelligence agencies dealing with another intelligence agency.
	The idea that the CIA is just like uh y the the the Department of Paperwork and you can just put everything that's in there out to the world, and it doesn't matter, you don't need to wait for WikiLeaks or the Sony leaker, uh is will be will ensure that there is gonna be less cooperation uh between uh Australian intelligence or MI6 in London or any of these fellas,
	simply because they don't want to have it all stuck out in some report that Diane Feinstein thinks uh is uh is gonna win her some points with uh the the Democrat Party base.
	So you're actually gonna get less cooperation.
	This CIA report is greatly disturbing uh to uh the intelligence agencies of American allies, and that's the connection with what's happening in Australia.
	The latest news, by the way, from that is that uh a thirty-four-year-old man and a thirty-eight-year-old woman were killed in that hostage siege, so two of the hostages are dead.
	And as as I said, it's the they died because they went for a coffee, and some guy bust in uh and decided that that was going to be the last day of their life.
	And uh it's not quite that simple because in the twenty years since that guy was taken in in Australia, there've been all these other kinds of provocations.
	As I said, he was calling up the the widows and children of soldiers who'd been killed in Afghanistan.
	He was sending them hate mail.
	Um he uh i was accused of uh setting up this sham spiritual thing to sexually molest women uh he is an uh accomplice in the murder of his ex wife and all the rest there's all this kind of thing.
	Uh but he's basically got a twenty year trail of hatred for his adopted country.
	We go to Major Hassan standing on the table shouting Alahu Akbar killing thirteen people and an unborn baby in what uh the Obama administration calls workplace violence uh and exactly the same uh exactly the same thing uh at play there.
	That's a guy who had given a power point presentation on what he was planning to do.
	Uh and all the army brass and uh big shots who were sitting in that room watching his PowerPoint presentation, none of them wanted to complain about this guy, Captain Hassan, as he then was, because they'd have been tied up in sensitivity training hell uh for the next uh year and a half.
	So instead the guy got promoted to major and eventually wound up at Fort Hood and eventually wound up standing on a table uh gunning down those people.
	You go to these guys, the Sarnev brothers, the Boston Marathon, same thing.
	They're they're taken in as refugees.
	They're going on jihadist websites.
	Uh the FSB, the successor to the KGB in Moscow, fingers one of the guys to the Department of Homeland Security who are too busy waving through undocumented Mexicans or whatever to pay any attention and do anything about it.
	So that guy uh gets to uh explode his bombs at the Boston Marathon and blow a great big hole that will never heal uh through the lives of American families.
	Um and uh and that's why uh what Diane Feinstein did is really quite contemptible because if you're not prepared th there's two explanations for the what's going on here and they go th the Democrats use whichever is convenient.
	On the one hand they say no no this isn't a war.
	It's law enforcement.
	Uh well okay if it's gonna be law enforcement, if you're not going to fight it with soldiers, you're gonna fight it with uh just law enforcement, that it depends on intelligence.
	That depends on breaking up plots before they happen.
	Otherwise a lot of planes are going to be dropping out of the skies.
	A lot of skyscrapers are going to be smoking ruins.
	There's going to be a lot more people like the victims of this guy in the Sydney coffee shop and the victims of Major Hassan at Fort Hood and the victims of the Sarnaevs in Boston.
	And so if you're gonna be if you're gonna find out about these things in advance you've got to be able to do that to the fullness of your ability.
	And yet Diane Feinstein simply thinks that the CIA should be as actually m not as transparent as the Department of Paperwork, more transparent than the Department of Paperwork.
	Apparently the Democrat position is that the intelligence agency, you know nothing else all the Obamacare stuff uh was kept secret.
	A group and Obama are yucking it up and saying hey we're we're putting one we're certainly putting one over a new stupid American rubs and patsies, but you ain't gonna find out about it until it's too late.
	That's how that's how it comes to processing uh your health care policy.
	But when it comes to intelligence agencies, uh apparently that's the that's th they've got to be far more transparent than Obamacare or or or any of that kind of stuff.
	And as I said, these these things have real consequences.
	This thirty-four year old man and thirty-eight year old woman did not deserve to die uh for a delusion which is what the modern multicultural society is.
	They died, they were sacrificed on the altar of Western government's uh delusion since the Second World War that a a Western an advanced developed Western nation is like gate seventy three at LAX.
	It just happens to be whoever's standing in it.
	Doesn't make any difference.
	And that means that uh in uh it doesn't in in this country we see it in the young Somali men uh in Minnesota who've volunteered to go off and fight for ISIS.
	in uh in in uh london you see it in the young nigerian converts to islam who butchered that guy in the street in australia uh you see it in this so-called self-styled muslim cleric who who takes hostages in this coffee shop uh and at the and it's only possible to do that because of the delusion uh that there is no difference it's essentially the rama philosophy that there's no difference
	between anyone, there's no difference between anyone, there's
	no difference between Rama and Kim Jong un there's no difference between a nice lady listening to Morning Edition on NPI in Cambridge, Massachusetts and the uh Dagestani refugees uh down the road in uh the same town planning to blow up the Boston Marathon that everybody is all the same and that's what Obama uh preaches whenever he says there's no Islam Sia that's what John Kerry does when he says there's no Islam seeing I mean why
	does John Kerry know?
	I know enough to know this gets back to Rumsfeld and his known knowns and no unknown knowns and known unknowns and we know what we know and we know what we don't know but we don't know what we don't know and all the rest of it I know enough to know I don't know about Islam and I respect Islam enough not to issue pronouncements on its behalf.
	John Kerry and Barack Obama and David Cameron go around talking like big-shot imams.
	You know, what madrasa did John Kerry go to that he feels confident he can pronounce and what is and isn't Islam?
	But the result is that this 34-year-old man and this 38-year-old woman, who nobody will remember their names except their friends and family, but they died, they were sacrificed on the altar of the multicultural delusion that Western governments have peddled basically since the 1960s now.
	Mark Stein for Rush, we'll take your call straight ahead.
	Also in this Cromnibus bill was a rule requiring more whole grains in school lunches and suspending the lower sodium standards due to take effect in 2017.
	Now, OK, so we've got an approvals for government spending to finance the government, to fund the government until September 2015.
	What have lower sodium standards due to take effect in 2017 to do with that?
	To do with that.
	I'm, I'm, I'm, opposed to Michelle Obama's uh the the the commissar of school lunches ruling every schoolhouse from Maine to Hawaii with an iron rod but that's got nothing to do with government funding through September twenty fifteen.
	It's uh it's unclean a government unclean as the Islamic guys like to say about us infidels.
	That's the way I feel about government today.
	Let's go to Alan in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	Alan it's great to have you on the show.
	Oh thank you, Mr Stein.
	Uh first of all I want to thank you for being the best undocumented guest host in all talk radio.
	Well that that's a I I gather that's an extremely uncompetitive category.
	Yeah well it goes if you have to have one Irish Belgian Canadian illegal immigrant host your show, this is the one to go for.
	Okay I'll uh I'm a first generation American via Scottish parent though I feel you brother Okay I'll take that compliment Alad what's on your mind today?
	Rama I don't know what his name was I mean I appreciate his idealism almost as much as I appreciate your realism you know what I mean?
	But the one thing you didn't bring up with the dude was uh what he thought government's role played in his pacifistic ideology.
	You know everybody nobody wants war.
	Nobody wants death.
	I mean he was just reiterating what we all feel at our underlying basis.
	And you you were trying to you know par away uh realistic scenarios onto him and he just he couldn't engage.
	He didn't understand any of what you were saying, Mark and you know the the the the difference between the the the one uh elephant in the room, so to speak, was government's role.
	What is government's role in that?
	Does government contribute to freedom or does government take away from freedom?
	And that's something Mr. Rom Roma never addressed at all.
	And you didn't bring it up, I mean, to to his credit.
	No, he he didn't, because uh but y you know, I think I think the um I think I think his view is basically that there is no government, that there's a sort of planet wide there's there's a planet white human consciousness.
	And that's why he equals peace.
	Yeah, and he thinks we're all citizens of the world, uh apart from anything else, and therefore uh and he th and he by the way, that's that's such a lazy thing.
	I mean if you uh I would teen Rodden very one-on-one, you know I mean, yeah, but it but but it's also you know, you should if you should respect other people enough to know they're not the same as you.
	The idea that everyone is like Rama, that somehow sending Dennis Rogm Rodman to schmooze Kim Jong un will turn Kim Jong un into Rama is a is a delusion.
	Uh and and the the fact is if if if everybody if you have everybody takes uh Rama's view that uh we can all live in peace and we should never lift a gun and target it at an enemy, then what happens then is that the Kim Jong uns and the crazy guy in Sydney will win.
	Uh and they will be kings on a field of corpses.
	And uh I'm not a clever gu I'm not a clever guy, Alan, and uh I think in uh one of my books I quote one of my favorite couplets on the theme, uh which actually is the last word in pacifism.
	It's Hilaire Belloch, uh almost a century ago.
	Um Pale Ebenezer thought it wrong to fight, but roaring Bill, who killed him, thought it right.
	And that's how that's how it will go for Rama, too.
	Nice pacifist Rama thought it wrong to fight, but Kim Jong un who killed him thought it right.
	And that's how it goes for pacifists every time.
	Uh because in the end, peace is not as Rush always says, is not the natural condition of the planet.
	The world we live in of an advanced developed society where we can all obsess uh about little electronic trinkets and ooh, have you have you seen Justin Bieber's new music video?
	That's a luxury.
	It's not the s natural state of the planet.
	Uh and and and uh uh uh and uh uh Alan makes the point about government's role in this.
	Government can at least do its best not to encourage uh the delusions of people like Rama.
	Hilaire Belloc said it almost a century ago.
	Pale Ebenezer thought it wrong to fight, but Roaring Bill who killed him thought it right.
	So roaring Bill wins, Kim Jong un wins, the Islamic lunatic in that Sydney coffee shop wins if you go down the path that Rama's prescribing.
	Mark Stein for Rush, we'll close things out in just a moment.
	Well, it's been such a heavy news today.
	I forgot to plug my Christmas CD, but uh but remember folks, if I don't get big royalties from that, the IRS can't take it to fund their SWAT team.
	So you know it makes sense.
	Uh go out and uh go out and grab yourself my Christmas C D and help to keep big government big and bloated, because that's the message of the season.
	Uh I've had a great time, always have a great time here.

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