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Dec. 9, 2014 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 9, 2014, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 24-7 podcast.
I don't know, folks.
Some days I just feel swamped.
I just feel overwhelmed.
I feel being smothered by the left.
I mean, look it.
Here we are almost at 2015.
And this is a day that Jonathan Gruber is testifying before a House committee on all the things he said about the American people in Obamacare.
And what's happening instead?
The Democrats are blaming the Bush administration.
The Democrats, the main story, the lead story today by design is the release of the CIA report or the Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture dumping on the Bush administration on Jonathan Gruber Day.
Gruber, whatever's happening up there being dwarfed by what is happening with the release of how rotten and horrible this stinking country was when George Bush was president.
And it still is.
Because Obama still hasn't been able to close club, get them over, all the torture went on and may still be going on, even though Obama may not know about it and thinks he's tried to stop it.
And this is the picture being painted today.
As we head into the Christmas season, once again, America sucks and it really sucked during On the day Jonathan Gruber is being questioned about all of the lies that were told in order to pass Obamacare.
And he, by the way, I think Gruber just admitted here, let me check something very, very, very quickly, because I just got a flash note.
Gruber just said, and we got some sound bites of this coming up, so hang in there be tough.
Gruber just said that he did not lie in anything that was shown on the internet.
He didn't lie about anything.
So everything he said on the internet was true.
They asked him today, well, how much were you paid?
Well, I paid what's paid.
Well, how much money were you given for your services?
Well, I need to consult with uh counsel uh on this.
I mean, this guy is coming across today as pajama boy too, nothing like the Gruber that we see bragged dochio in all of these YouTube videos.
The cockshore bragging, hey, look how smart I am, fooling all these idiots.
He's up there looking dazed, like he doesn't know where he is, he doesn't know what they're talking about, and he's as quiet as a church mouse, except church and these guys don't go together.
So he says he's as quiet as a warehouse mouse.
I guess it'd be the way to say it.
And yeah, he was he was just a bit player.
I I why I wasn't uh I I I I wasn't front and side, I wasn't the architect, except that he ran around bragging that he was, and Obama claimed that he was.
Well, I mean, he used the word architect, but it was well known that Gruber was.
And it's a it's a great show because even Elijah Cummings is acting ticked off.
And he may be, for one reason, this is damaging to the Democrat Party.
I think I think Elijah Cummings is the ranking Democrat of the committee that is interrogating Gruber.
If he's mad about anything, it's the damage Gruber potentially did to the party.
Not yeah, he gave Gruber gave Republicans a gift, but he's not mad about health care.
He's not bad about what Gruber actually did.
He's mad that Gruber was foolish enough to brag about it.
And uh and and admit to it.
And Obama, if you hang around long enough, it becomes inarguably true that I am right.
Obama in the Hill.com.
Protests are necessary to trigger the nation's violence.
Our president, in effect, is admitting that he welcomes all of these protests, that he welcomes all of this unrest because it allows him to further his radical agenda.
And the uh the radical left famous for creating a crisis and then using the crisis to justify expanded government control.
They got a crisis.
The people are protesting, it's out of control.
The government must do in and stop it, move in and stop it.
Government must do something.
What do they do?
Well, we grant the protesters whatever it is they're demanding.
And then we're all considered to be great guys.
I folks, I have to tell you, I was almost unable to do the program today.
I was so sad.
I was so shaken.
Uh despondent, dejected, that I actually required a pep talk from my chef this morning in order to come here and actually do the program.
Well, Mona Charon criticized me at National Review Online.
She said I was wrong what I said on TV.
And I thought, well, how can I go on?
That one, Mona Charon.
She is, she is.
And uh she said that I'm wrong about the shutdown, that I'm wrong about the Republicans.
I'm savvy.
I'm savvy, but I'm wrong.
And I don't know, folks, it just destroyed me.
I'm not used to being called on the carpet like this publicly.
What?
What was this?
Oh well, I had a I had a friend send me her column, and the note was, I'm sure that you have seen this.
And I hadn't.
I this one friend sends me everything critical of me in the email.
That's whenever a friend of mine finds, this particular friend finds something critical, bam, I get it.
With the note, I'm sure you've seen this.
And I say, no, I do not seek these things out.
Because I don't know how I could go on if I run into all the criticism I get, as evidenced by today.
What?
No, National Review, National Review Online, right?
Which is doubly hurtful because of course that's the publication of website founded by William F. Buckley Jr., one of my idols and heroes, and to be criticized and basically accused of being wrong.
Oh, in that oh, folks, I don't know.
You don't, you don't know.
And I'm it's tough to admit this.
And here's where Mona, this this one paragraph here, this was she said, I got it wrong.
This is this is this is her assessment.
Republicans want to shrink government, revive the mediating institutions of society like family, community groups, and churches.
Republicans want to improve a national defense, and Republicans want to restore economic vitality, economic vitality by removing government imposed burdens on small business.
A key ambition, universally endorsed by Republicans is repealing and replacing Obamacare.
Man, have I been missing a lot.
I didn't know any of that was going on, or very little of it.
But anyway, folks, I I bucked up.
And I decided to put that aside, put aside the personal pain and suffering of being openly criticized like this.
And decided seriously taking me seriously.
What are you kidding?
What do you think you were wrong about?
You really think I needed a pep talk from the chef to get into behind the microphone.
Her point was I was wrong about the shutdown.
That I was wrong with because it is hurtful, it is damaging, it's not it we should do anything at all costs to avoid doing a shutdown because we're always going to get blamed for it.
And that Romney wouldn't have won if four million voters because it's not guaranteed that all of those Republicans would have voted for Romney.
And so anyway, I was it was yeah, but I just I just you know I walked in the kitchen that I said to chef, I don't think I can do it today.
I really don't know why.
And I explained it and got a pep talk, and here I am.
All right, now back to it.
Uh ladies, you remember the scandal a few months ago when it was reported, you may not remember this, and this is one of the reasons Why I am here as your host.
But some of you might remember a few months ago when it was reported that the CIA was investigating certain Democrat Senate staffers.
The Democrats' CIA rendition report that was released is what the CIA was concerned about.
CIA was curious how Democrat staffers got hold of highly classified information.
They were concerned that these staffers in the Senate, Democrat staffers, would make that information public.
And Democrats like Diane Feinstein were in high dudgeon, just outraged that the CIA wouldn't trust the Senate to protect America's national security.
And to me, it sure looks like the CIA was right to be concerned.
In fact, they should have done more to stop these staffers because this report is out, and Diane Feinstein's practically reading it verbatim on the Senate floor.
She's been at it for over a half hour now.
And you can sum it up.
America's mean, America tortures or did during the Bush years.
The CIA lied to us.
The CIA did far worse.
Like they kept some detainees awake and denied them sleep for a hundred hours.
And they ward aborted them.
And I as I as I listened to her run through all of the, and she said, and it was been conclusively proven that much of the intel we got from this torture was not true.
It was just the inmates saying anything to stop the torture.
And I remembered back to the sound bites that we had here from Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes interviewing one of the CIA interrogators.
We love this guy.
Jose, I think it was Hernandez or something, I think.
The guy was great.
And Leslie Stahl was just speechless and stunned when he was admitting to her the kinds of techniques that were employed successfully on just one of the detainees, Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, who we were told broke the record for being able to endure waterboarding.
And I remember Leslie Stahl saying, but but but that's torture.
We don't do that.
And this uh Jose uh Jose Rodriguez, Jose Rodriguez, oh, but we do, but we do.
And then he went on to describe how it worked.
And uh shortly after Obama assumed office and the regime was in place, they started making noise about prosecuting these interrogators.
Remember that?
They were going to prosecute American interrogators, down a club good.
It turns out I think they're not going to do that.
But they released this thing today, which basically says that this country, it's it's typical of what the modern American left thinks of America.
It's a catalog of everything wrong with this country.
It's a catalog of how we ignored our values.
It's a catalog of how we were not who we are.
You know, all of this stuff that we set aside our values and we failed a worldwide test, and we can only seek to be a moral leader if we in fact behave as moral people in a moral country and so forth.
And it that philosophy, by the way, I don't agree with.
The problem I have with it is this constant assumption that these people make that the United States has to prove everything to everybody.
That there's something inherently flawed about us that requires us to daily prove to other reprobate nations around the world that we are worthy of our status.
That's what offends me about this.
And this this, I'll tell you this preoccupation these people have with torture.
It's a psychological thing.
I I've always known how big a deal it is to them.
To them, this they they they all take this personally somehow.
Uh I've mentioned the two TV shows recently that I have Watched where, and it's stuff that we're talking about, my friends, seven years ago now.
And you would think, listening to Diane Feinstein today, that it happened yesterday.
It happened a couple of days ago.
We're finally getting to the truth, and we're now telling everybody what went on.
And these television shows make the same point that it's going on, it's happening now.
In fact, it's almost a signature of the United States that we torture.
And the obsession these people have with it, it's almost as though they think these kinds of enhanced techniques were never used before by anybody prior to George W. Bush.
And it's almost to the point that you get the uh feeling these people think that nobody else in the world engages in these kind of enhanced interrogation techniques, that we are the sole users of such horrible things.
And it is an outright denial.
It's a flat out denial of just how dangerous and despicable the world is in places.
This this moral equivalence, these people that somehow we have the duty to prove ourselves every day because we haven't met our own standards.
Because we have fallen short of our own lofty ideals.
Yes.
And the rest of the world is justified in thinking that we are a reprobate nation.
And that's the rubric under which all of this is taking place today.
And I frankly am tired of it.
I'm I'm tired of having to get up every day and listen to the Democrat Party and all of its allies tell everybody in as loud a voice as they can what a rotten place the United States of America is.
And particularly when they arrive at this view with an unrealistic view and an un lack of understanding of what the real world and the real world of bad guys is really all about.
But that's secondary because the opportunity here is to rip the country and a former Republican president.
And that's what they really are gleeful about, and particularly the timing doing this on Jonathan Gruber Day.
Let me take a timeout, my friends.
We will uh come back and continue as we've just gotten started, just winding up here on the EIB network.
Welcome back, my friends, Rushlin Boy.
And despite it all, despite it all, having more fun than a human being, should be allowed to have.
And the reason for that is, and I am doing what I was born to do.
Okay, I've got the Jose Rodriguez soundbite that I referenced and a couple of Diane Feinstein's, but I I don't want to be hurried into the before the breaks.
I'm gonna save them for immediately after the next break coming up at the bottom of the hour.
And I want to remind you something.
The demonization of the CIA is as old as the CIA.
In fact, the demonization of CIA goes back to the old OSS even prior to the CIA.
But the demonization of the CIA and their use of waterboarding is a textbook example of how the media and the rest of the Democrat Party establish a lie and repeat it until it becomes a fact.
And I'm gonna tell you torture isn't torture, government shutdown is not a government shutdown, and immigration reform isn't immigration reform.
We're losing the language.
But the the these people are hellbent on convincing as many people in this country as they can that we are rotten to the core because all we do is torture.
We don't interrogate with valor and with character.
No, no, no.
And remember, as Mrs. Clinton said recently, we don't treat our enemies with understanding and empathy.
No, we torture them.
Well, as these people are using it, torture isn't torture, just like immigration reform is not immigration reform, it's amnesty.
And just as a government shutdown that everybody's afraid of is not really a government shutdown.
So the left continues to hijack the Language and redefine important terms.
And the opposing party just stands aside and lets it all happen.
Demonization of the CIA and their use of waterboard.
This is textbook of how you establish a lie and repeat it until it becomes a fact.
You know that the U.S. military water boards, particularly our special forces people, they go through water board training.
It's part of their survival training.
Because it's likely they're going to encounter it if captured a grand total three terrorists were waterboarded 11 years ago, which has now produced thousands of pages of valuable intel that the Democrats are saying is all invalid.
That they don't believe it's true because it was elicited with torture.
But it was that info that eventually led to the killing of Osama bin Laden for crying out loud.
And predictably, Senator McCain is now on the Senate floor endorsing what Diane Feinstein said.
Basically concluding that whatever we did at Guantanamo Bay stained our national honor.
Even though he understands it, sometimes in a fog of war, people do things they wouldn't otherwise do.
But that's no excuse.
And we got the lecture on our values.
And we must continue to act as though we understand that all men have certain basic human rights.
And we will be the one nation on earth that does not violate them or torture them in the process of finding out.
And then he went on to say that you can't trust what you're told using these kinds of techniques because the sufferer will lie, will say anything he thinks his captor will believe in order to end his suffering.
So it's Pylon America Day again on Jonathan Gruber Day.
This is not an accident.
Jonathan Gruber, you're gonna have to look long and hard to find it, is testifying before a House committee today on his lies, misrepresentations, and insults, the American people, his role in making sure this flawed Obamacare legislation was passed by virtue of lying the American people,
and it's simply being dwarfed by the news that the United States tortured seven, eight years ago.
How many times have they brought this up?
How many times have they kept making a point?
And I'm telling it's going to keep going.
Movies and TV shows are still being made about it.
Anyway, audio sound by time.
We played a number of these sound bites in the past.
I've got I've got one here.
Let me see.
This is not the one that I had just mentioned, but it'll it it works.
Back on April 29, 2012, Leslie Stahl interviewed former CIA interrogator Jose Rodriguez, and Jose Rodriguez, I believe, was the guy who ran the program.
Jose Rodriguez ran the CIA's interrogation program.
Leslie Stahl during the interview was beside herself.
She couldn't believe what she was hearing.
She says, so what happens?
You know, you're you're you're you're you're torturing Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
What does he break down?
Does he cry?
Does he fall apart?
What happens to him?
Uh he gets a good night's sleep.
He gets his insure.
By the way, he was uh very heavy when he came to us and uh he lost 50 pounds.
What his insure?
You mean like people in the hospital who drink that stuff?
Yes.
Dietary manipulation was part of these techniques.
So sleep deprivation, dietary manipulation.
I mean, this is Orwellian stuff.
The United States doesn't do that.
Well, we do.
It is the soundbite I hope for.
It is.
I quickly read it and didn't get the last line.
Well, we do.
Yes, and and he's, you know, he's on a he's on the edge here because he's taunting her, and he doesn't she doesn't know it.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Uh Dietary manipulation was part of these dire techniques.
You mean you gave him insure?
You mean that stuff cancer patients get in the hospital?
Yes, yes.
Dietary manipulation was part of these dire techniques.
Well, so sleep deprivation, dietary manipulation.
I mean, this is Orwellian stuff.
The U.S. doesn't do that.
Well, we do.
We do.
I mean, this is right up there.
This is in my all-time top five audio sound bites.
Nothing will outdo Nick Roberts and the CNN in Teriri Square.
That will always remain.
Just like Barack the Magic Negro Beamer, one of my all time favorite sound bites, or song parodies.
But here, listen to this again.
Now that you know what's coming and going by, I want you to listen.
Leslie Stall just beside herself.
She's she's in shock here.
She can't believe.
She can't believe that we do these horrible things.
She can't, she just can't believe.
And by the way, Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, everything he told us was true.
It has been confirmed.
And he set the record for length of time withstanding waterboarding.
I think it's a world record, in fact, that he holds.
I'm not I'm not saying this flippantly.
He does hold the world record for being able to hold out for longer than anybody else on waterboarding, and I think it's something like 75 seconds.
Which is a long time.
Oh, by the way, look, I I don't like doing this.
I don't like citing television shows for evidence of things because it isn't.
Television shows are just that.
They are scripted performances and not real.
Therefore, it's a sad thing.
It's a sad commentary that you have to watch a TV show to find out how truly evil our enemies are.
I find that somewhat appalling.
Today, we're being told how rotten we are.
Today this is all about the Senate and Republicans and Democrats joining together to describe once again how evil and mean and beneath our standards, the American nation was, particularly back during the second term of the Bush administration.
There's not a word being spoken about why all this went on.
There's not a word being said.
There's not a single description of the evil that is the Taliban, that is Al Qaeda, that is ISIS.
No, the evil is being portrayed today as being located at Club Githmo.
And whatever other black sites the CIA is violating the law in using by rendering prisoners under cover of darkness to black sites, i.e.
prisons that nobody knows exist in far-flung corners.
Really is.
And that's why I say I get I'm just worn out with this.
I'm worn out having to hear about how rotten my country is.
Particularly in a contest with Al Qaeda or in a contest with the Taliban.
But that's what we're getting today.
And it's helping to cover up what a reprobate Jonathan Gruber is.
And what an absolute fraud and lie all of Obamacare was and remains.
I did a morning update commentary today and a further news story that I have in the stack of stuff about all the doctors dropping out of Obamacare.
There's a legitimate shortage of actual treating doctors.
That's about to rear its ugly head.
More and more doctors are pulling out of it.
It's an it's it's it's a disaster.
Top to bottom.
And it's being covered up.
So the Democrat Party and the media can join forces and once again tell the American people how rotten their country is.
And let me just say, I'm not at all saying the United States perfect.
I'm not I'm not at all saying that we haven't made mistakes.
But to not even have a tacit acknowledgement that we are the good guys, that's offensive.
And by the way, it's very worrisome.
When to at least every member of a particular political party, the Democrat Party, in their eyes, the United States is not the good guys, that's a problem.
But that's what we're being treated to today.
So here again, listen to this, knowing full well what's coming and a couple of Dhi sign bites coming after this.
This is Jose Rodriguez, who ran the CIA interrogation program at Club Gitmo, being interviewed by Leslie Stall.
He wrote a book about it.
And so that's why he was on 60 Minutes.
And she was beside herself learning what went on.
She says, so what happens, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, after you waterboarded a guy, if you tortured him, after you beat him up, if you almost killed him after you treated him mean and all that, what happened?
Did he break down?
Did he cry?
Did he fall apart on you?
No.
Uh he gets a good night's sleep.
He gets his insure.
By the way, he was uh very heavy when he came to us and uh he lost 50 pounds.
What his insure?
You mean like people in the hospital who drink that stuff?
Yes.
Dietary manipulation was part of these techniques.
So sleep deprivation, dietary manipulation.
I mean, this is Orwellian stuff.
The United States doesn't do that.
Well, we do.
I don't know, folks.
I just love this.
Yes, giving a terrorist who master-minded the 9-11 attacks a can of insure is a dire interrogation technique.
These guessed it was part of these dire techniques.
He's just openly mocking her.
She didn't even know it.
And now here is Diane Feinstein, who is leading the show on the floor of the Senate today with the release of the committee report on just how rotten the CIA is.
We have two sound bites, and this is the first.
History will judge us by our commitment to a just society governed by law and the willingness to face an ugly truth and say never again.
The CIA's actions a decade ago are a stain on our value and on our history.
The release of this 500-page summary cannot remove that stain, but it can and does say to our people and the world that America is big enough to admit when it's wrong and confident enough to learn from its mistakes.
Releasing this report is an important step to restore our values and show the world that we are in fact a just and lawful society.
See?
You see what I mean?
The whole premise here is that we are the problem.
We have lost our values.
We have embarrassed ourselves before the world, and we are a stain on the world because we lost our value.
And it's a stain on our history.
And therefore history will judge us this way.
And we want history to judge us by our commitment to a just society governed by law and the willingness to admit that we were wrong and it'll never happen again.
That's what we want the world saying about us.
We want the world to respect us and to love us because the U.S. admits when it's wrong.
And the U.S., when it's wrong, promises to never do it again, like we are a little child needing to be sent to face the corner for not eating our peas.
I should take it back, for cramming our peas down the throats of our mothers for making us eat them when we don't want to.
That's right.
We are big enough to admit when we are wrong, and we are confident to learn from our mistakes, because we realize that we, when we lose our values, lose any authority to condemn Anyone else.
So when we become bad people, we can't accuse anybody else of being bad.
And for what it's worth, here's the next soundbite.
These are just two soundbites to basically summarize what it took her 45 minutes to read.
They describe brutal around the clock interrogations, especially of Abu Zabida, in which multiple coercive techniques were used in combination and with substantial repetition.
It was an ugly visceral description.
The summary also indicated that Abu Zabida and Al-Nashiri did not, as a result of the use of these so-called EITs, provide the kind of intelligence that led the CIA to stop terrorist plots or arrest additional suspects.
Now keep in mind a whopping three terrorists were waterboarded and punished in the way that Diane Feinstein described.
Three murderers.
Three mass murderers were subjected to this treatment.
Congress was briefed about all of these practices several times.
Top Democrats were briefed, including Pelosi, despite her claims of the contrary.
You remember that?
She was told about all this and never raised a.
In fact, this is all coming back to me now.
She was told about it and never complained once until the political opportunity arose.
The Democrats knew about this long ago, didn't say a word about it.
Much of it, by the way, turns out not to be true either.
Don't Senate staffers wrote this thing after the CIA refused to be cooperative with Senate staffers because they didn't trust them to keep all of this secret.
Quick timeout, back after this.
Don't go away.
Let's hit the phones.
We'll start Wilmington, Delaware.
This is Eric.
Great to have you on the program.
Hello, sir.
Hi, um Rush.
How are you doing today?
I'm fine, sir.
I'll just call him.
Uh I feel like I'm in groundhog day.
Didn't we um for weeks go over these torture allegations and stuff?
You know, I I'm not feeling it for these people down in Getmo.
I'm thinking of the people that were in the towers.
They had to choose between burning to death and jumping to their death.
Um I think we're losing the big perspective.
And also there's a cabal between the press and the White House.
I mean, they change the topic all the time where the cops are killing black kids to, you know, Gruber, they're trying to cover up that.
And also the immigration thing.
They use the um cops and uh killing black kids to cover that up.
So all we do is talk for weeks about something that we know that's not true.
That's exactly how it's done.
You have just spelled out the technique.
You are very shrewd, sir, very clever for detecting it, because that's exactly all of these crises, many of them manufactured and thrown up against the media wall every day to cloud to obscure, to confuse, to suppress, to depress, to dispirit, to cause confusion and chaos.
You know, I here's a question.
Is Obama a stain on our honor?
I would think a president who is as lawless as Barack Obama is.
A president who ignores the Constitution purposely over and over.
You talk about a stain on our nation's honor.
Oh, by the way, did this so hilarious.
On Fox News Sunday, one of the comments I made to Chris Wallace was the president should be uplifting and inspiring.
Instead, he and the mayor are running around talking like there hasn't been any progress in this country, race relations in 200 years.
Well, it turns out that on Friday, two days before I appeared, Obama appeared on Black Entertainment TV, did an interview in which he acknowledged that there has been some progress.
So now the media is saying Obama has responded to limbo and buried limbo.
Well, I didn't know what Obama said on Friday, and neither did The press.
He did the interview Friday.
It wasn't released until today.
So there yesterday said they're portraying Obama responding to me and of course nuking me.
And which Obama made his comments before I even showed up on Fox News Sunday.
It's just classic the way they try to characterize and misreport what uh what actually went on.
They just so I must have really hit a lot of home run Sunday because man, oh man, the have to take a brief time out here at the top of the hour.
Uh ladies and gentlemen, you sit tight.
We'll be back and continue with much more on the EIB network right after this.
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