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Oct. 9, 2014 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 9, 2014, Thursday, Hour #2
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Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have Rush Limbaugh.
Half my brain tied behind my back, just to make it fair.
We are here at the EIB network.
And the Limboy Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
The telephone numbers 800 282-2882 and the email address L Rushbow at EIBNet.com.
I was just asked to mention this again, so I will.
We just announced yesterday the pre-order availability for the next Rush Revere Incredible Adventures with Exceptional American series Rush Revere and the American Revolution.
And already up at number two on Amazon, number three Barnes and Noble.
And it pre-orders.
Folks, you people you are I I don't know how to keep thanking you.
You are just incredible.
And it drops on October 28th.
It drops in October 28.
We have a small team of people that work on these books, and they are a labor of love.
And I would love to tell you that I do the whole thing.
But I can't in any way shame.
And I wouldn't even joke about it because it's not believable.
The books contain too much.
There's uh the the historical research, uh, the artistry, the graphics, the the illustrations.
Uh it's it's a it's a small team working exceptionally diligently and hard throughout the year uh in crafting and writing the adventures of Rush Revere series, and we get we've been so excited about this one.
We couldn't wait.
I I've been as excited about this one as I am for the arrival of a new iPhone.
And I love sharing my passions with people anyway, and this one we did for the military.
This this it's a it's a must-read.
It uh I mean it doesn't require that you have read the first two, but it certainly would help.
The books are standalone, but there's a context to them.
There is a mission involved in them.
There is a uh there's some themes that carry throughout, and that is the truth of the American founding, uh, the love for country, the respect for the traditions and institutions, and the reverence for the people who did it.
And that's what we're trying to teach to our target audience here of 10 to 13 years of age.
However, uh we have found that adults claim that they are learning things they didn't know.
That's always gratifying to hear that as uh as well.
So our mission is to tell the story of the United States of America and its founding in a relatable way, so that our target reader, 10 to 13 years old, can really get to know these people that founded this country to pave the way for all of us.
Uh with the time traveling horse, very creative vehicle to take students right back to these events, these important events, and put them there.
Where the people that shaped and built this country talk about it.
And all of that's historically accurate.
Uh and and written for 10 to 13-year-old consumption as well.
Now, and this one, as I say, was a uh special dedication to the men and women of our armed forces.
And uh like I said yesterday, I don't want to give too much of this away.
But just a little bit about this.
One of the one of the uh characters in the book is Cam.
He's one of the time-traveling students taught by the substitute teacher Rush Revere at Manchester Middle School, and his father is deployed to Afghanistan, and he doesn't understand why his dad's gonna be gone so long.
He is a real problem with it.
And I for you military families, I have to be honest, that was that was uh it was a revelation to me.
I I just assumed that military families knew what dad did.
But even knowing what dad does doesn't make it easier when dad's gone or mom.
Either one, the kids still question it and would prefer their parents be around, obviously, But the parents have made this commitment.
So that's what it's one of the stories in the book, Cam and the relationship he has with his dad, who has been deployed to Afghanistan.
Cam struggles with the separation and how long it is.
And as the story develops, uh Rush Revere and Liberty the Talking Trime Traveling Horse and the Crew travel at Lexington, Concord, and Bunker Hill, and Cam has an awakening during the course of the book.
And it's just it's just great the way it's a great tribute to the military.
It's timed for Veterans Day.
The book comes out on October 28th.
And you see Cam start to mature right before your very eyes.
And as a young man learns the whys and the how of what his father does as a member of the armed forces.
So we've we've combined that with the other mission of the book, which is the historical teaching accuracy of the founding of the country against Rush Revere and the American Revolution, Rush Rear is his own website now.
He's grown up, Rush Revere, one word dot com.
And there is a that website's fabulous.
And we've got a great trailer, a video trailer for this book that you have to see.
You'll see it as you go to RushRevere.com.
And it's it's now up for pre-order, and I get it'll drop, it'll be in your hands on the 28th of October.
That's what it goes on sale, nationwide and worldwide.
Now I mentioned at the top of the busy broadcast today that the Secret Service scandal in Cartagena, it turns out we were lied to again by the regime and by the media, who repeated the lies of the reason.
And the media is trying to act today like they're outraged.
They are outraged at how they were kept in the dark, which just amazes me.
What's their job to ferret out the truth?
So the Washington Post today has a very long story for them, for their by their standards.
I mean, it's thousands of words.
So let me nutshell it for you.
Let me sum it up for you.
The Washington Post through diligent journalistic efforts, otherwise known as hard work.
The Washington Post has uncovered evidence that the White House knew about the Secret Services Prostitution Scandal in Cartagena, Columbia.
Now, this happened back in 2011.
Now the White House knew about this, despite the White House claims to the contrary at the time.
And old Jay Carney, the spokes kid, clearly went out there and uh told a whopper about what the I thought we had.
I'm looking at the soundbite roster if I've I must have been looking at something all over the place here.
I thought we had it.
But it doesn't matter.
Everybody remembers Jay Carney went and totally denied the White House.
They were as shocked by it as anybody else.
And it turns out they knew.
That's the whole point of the Washington Post story.
In fact, the Washington Post says that the lead investigator for the Department of Homeland Security and Inspector General's office, a guy named David Nyland.
He told Senate staffers he was pressured by the White House to delay any reports on this scandal until after the presidential election.
And that's exactly what's going on now.
Suppressing of events, stories not reportings, Obama hiding whether he's going to do amnesty till after the election, which fits the pattern of this White House.
Benghazi, keep that hidden until after the election.
The VA scandal, let's keep the lid on that till after the election.
IRS scandal, let's keep the lid on that forever if we can.
But there's even more to this.
The person at the center of the prostitution charge is a man named Jonathan Dock, D-A-C-H.
And he may pronounce it.
He may pronounce it Dutch.
He may pronounce it or Dush.
So I'm covering my bed.
Don't know how it's pronounced.
He's 25 years old.
His father Leslie Dash is an Obama donor who worked with Muchell Obama on her Let's Move campaign, which is essentially the starving of our kids for real.
Have you seen a picture of the of the Michelle Obama let's move lunch?
It is unbelievable.
It's one of these looks like a stuff that egg egg cartons are made out of.
It's a tray.
Upper left hand little section is dry shredded lettuce.
And then there looks like a single carrot in another section.
And a and a little like a cup of fat-free or skim-free milk.
And there's no there's no entree.
I mean, it it it it's students are uh are are outrageous.
Parents are outraged, and of course it's always been the Republicans starving actually.
It's Michelle Obama who's doing it.
Anyway, schools are are rejecting it all over the country now, everybody is.
But anyway, the guy who helped her on implementing this is the father of the 25-year-old guy at the center of the prostitution charge.
Now get this.
Jonathan Dosh, Doc DAC, is now working for the regime, and John Kerry, who, by the way, served in Vietnam, if you didn't know, over at the State Department, Jonathan Doc is a policy advisor in the wait for it office on global women's issues.
The guy that hired the prostitute for the Secret Service in Cartagena, is now working for Kerry as a policy advisor in the Office on Global Women's Issues.
So a kid, a young man, who is accused of using prostitutes, is advising the State Department on women's issues.
Talk about war on women?
And the headline, the Washington Post story, aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena Columbia prostitution scandal.
Here's Jason Chavitz on Fox and Friends this morning, asked by Elizabeth Hasselbeck, what do you have to say about it, Congressman?
The White House needs to come clean.
There's a White House staffer that was very involved in this.
Remember, there were nearly two dozen Secret Service and military personnel that were either fired or reprimanded.
But the concern is that when it came to the White House, and the White House taking care of its own personnel, a totally different standard and perhaps a misdirection and some cover-up to make sure that that story never saw the light of day before the 2012 election.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And then Steve Ducey said, well, we should also point out that this fellow, this volunteer, Jonathan Doc, who allegedly, according to the Washington Post, hired the hooker.
His father, big donor for Obama, but I'm sure that's just coincidence, right, Congressman?
Now he's working on global women's issues.
The Office of Global Women's Issues at the State Department.
It really is offensive to the morale of the Secret Service, the men and women who served.
They got reprimanded, they got fired.
You had three people in the inspector general's office there in the Department of Homeland Security who were put on administrative leave because they were asking questions and wondering why.
Why aren't we including this information about a White House staffer involved in this prostitution problem?
In the big scheme of things.
I'm sure it's chump change.
Prostitutes, come on, everybody does it.
Did it get in their way of doing their jobs?
Who knows?
Maybe it is their jobs.
Screwing people.
Anyway.
The reason it's not chump change is it illustrates a day-to-day philosophy pattern by the White House.
That is lie.
Cover up.
Keep the news away from it.
It also illustrates that the media slavishly did so.
What good is it now knowing this?
It's like these journalists saving up all the really juicy stuff for the book after the election.
Rather than use it during the campaign.
Now here's the J. Carney bike that I referenced earlier.
I it I didn't, I couldn't find it because it's in the section where I have a bowl of sound bites, and it's it's a standalone on that page.
But this was April 23rd, 2012, daily press briefing, and this is what the spokeskid said about the Secret Service prostitution scandal.
There are no, to my knowledge, and have been no credible or specific allegations of misconduct by any member of the White House advanced team or uh White House staff.
But out of due diligence, this review was conducted, and there is no indication that uh of any misconduct.
Yeah, well, another lie.
Blatant, vehemently lied that the White House staff were involved.
Big deal, he's not there anymore.
Who knows where is he?
I don't know where he went, some news network.
Incestuous resolve revolving door.
But another classic example of what you get with this kind of regime and this kind of political ideology that just cannot be honest about itself.
My friends, you know things are tough.
You know things are bad when Jimmy Carter accuses you of being a wimp.
And that has happened.
Jimmy Carter has accused Obama of being a wimp on ISIS.
He waited way too long.
Just waited way too.
Jimmy Carter, presidential President Obama blew it on ISIL.
He's criticizing Obama's Middle East policy.
He said we waited too long.
We let the Islamic State build up its money, its capability and strength and weapons while it was still in Syria.
And then when ISIL moved into Iraq, the Sunni Muslims didn't object to their being there, and about a third of the territory in Iraq was abandoned.
Carter said that Obama's air campaign against ISIL and Iraq has a possibility of success, provided that some troops are available on the ground.
Obama's being told that ISIS is being slowed down a little bit, but they're nowhere near being stopped.
And he still will not change the policy.
He is not he can do what he wants.
I mean, he's commander-in-chief, but he's he's totally ignoring uh the strategic advice and the military analysis he's getting from military commanders.
Here's uh phone call time.
Eric in Margate, New Jersey.
Hi, Eric, it's great to have you up first today in the EIB network.
Hey, Mark, uh hey, how are you doing, Rush?
Very good, sir.
Uh listen, I wanted to talk about Ebola.
Now, I was telling Mr. Snerdley, now um, by the way, I'm here in New Jersey, uh, two hours from Newark, and hopefully uh we'll be safe here.
But um uh if if I was in Africa right now, Rush, and I didn't know I was visiting my family.
Now, follow me here, and the whole family's not shown any symptoms of Ebola, but one of them hasn't they don't know it yet.
And I kissed them goodbye, and I contact Ebola from them.
Now, mind you, I tell the airport people I haven't had any contact with Ebola, my temperature's normal.
I get on the airplane, sweat on it, whatever I do, I land in America, and two weeks later I come down with Ebola.
Now, aren't I basically contaminating us?
Uh you could well be if this if the scenario you've just described is exactly what happened.
You you wait no, but um, you went by you you went to see family in Africa, and none of them had Ebola.
But one of them actually did, but wasn't showing symptoms of the city.
Okay, and you and you kissed that family member either hello or goodbye or whatever.
And then you get a call from Africa two days later, hey, little Johnny came down with Ebola.
I hope you didn't get it.
Oh, yeah.
And now you're wondering, have you have you then when you got on a plane and landed and uh went about your business, have you been contaminating people?
You're wondering if that's how it works.
Now, Rush, if this disease takes off, I was telling Mr. Snurley, well, the the CDC guy said there's going to be clusters.
What does that mean?
And also, do you think there's going to be an MBA if this takes off?
These guys sweat all over each other.
What about the guy that wipes the floor when they run down the other court?
What about all the gyms that people sweat on?
What about the store clerk if he has Ebola and he sneezes on all over my canned goods?
Well, how long does Ebola live on a product if if it does get contaminated?
Like, well, what now about that?
Uh I I saw yesterday.
This might be relevant to you, that Ebola survives 90 days in male semen after a patient is cured or recovers.
The virus is still in semen for three months, they've found.
Well, what is the survival rate of Ebola?
Um the death rate, depending on fifty to ninety percent is the death rate.
About half of the reported cases, thirty, five hundred have died.
You remember the Keystone XL pipeline.
The Canadians have found a way around it.
What they want, they've got they've got oil.
They've got uh shale oil, sand oil, they've got they've got a lot of oil.
They want to get it, and it's great, it's a great quality crude, and they want to get it to refineries on the Gulf Coast.
And the Keystone XL pipeline was the most direct route.
Of course, Obama's dragging his feet again because of donors and his own belief that oil is one of our enemies.
And there are even some Nebraska farmers that don't want the pipeline traveling over their farmland.
So there have been offers to work the pipeline around uh areas where people object to it.
The Canadians just got tired of waiting.
The Canadians said heck it.
And they have found a way to get the oil to the Gulf.
You know what they're gonna do?
And I have details coming up.
They're going to build a multiple thousand mile pipeline from their left coast or near it all the way to the Atlantic Ocean, put it on super tankers, and then ship it down to the refineries via the Atlantic Ocean.
And there's nothing Obama can do to stop it.
There's nothing his big billionaire phony baloney plastic banana good time rock and roller donor Tom Steyer can do to stop it.
The only problem is the Canadians have so much oil, one pipeline will not handle all that they're going to be able to ship.
They still are going to need Keystone XL.
Details upcoming.
In the meantime, back to the phones, Gary, Maricopa, Arizona.
Great to have you, sir.
Thank you for calling.
Hi, Rush.
Um just calling to point out, you know, all the sensationalism about Ebola coming here, ISIS coming here, they have a long way to go to catch up with the thousands and thousands and thousands of Americans that illegal aliens have killed in this country and continue to do so every day.
Now, now wait a minute now.
Wait a minute.
You you you you're gonna have to back that up thousands and thousands of thousands.
Uh how many days go by where you don't hear about an illegal alien that has Well, I haven't heard one today.
Look, I'm uh seriously enough, you're gonna say you it can't be thousands and thousands.
I mean, that that's I I know that there are illegal aliens committing murder.
If you if you think of ten years, if you think even of one every other day.
Right.
We know it's more than that.
Okay.
Well, given even so, the answer to your question is uh look at how many people die on the highways every day.
It never gets reported, let a plane crash happen, and oh my God.
Right.
And no, this is this is a problem that's not just the Republicans or the Democrats, it's both.
And every amnesty preacher is the blood uh is on their hands.
Uh you know, I know Obama's done a lot to exacerbate the problem, but every politician that is pimping for amnesty increases the problem.
Potentially, yes.
Yeah, uh so I hear all the the guff about Obama, and yes, I really dislike the man severely, but everybody that says amnesty is causing more of them to come here.
Well, they are saying it isn't amnesty.
Uh then they are very specific.
Uh When they tell you it's not amnesty, don't call it amnesty.
Don't say it's amnesty, because they claim that it's not.
What it is is Democrat voter registration.
And however many years it takes for that to happen, that's the that's the ultimate objective here on the Democrat side.
On the Republican side, it's cheap labor.
Chamber of Commerce.
They make no bones about it.
I mean, I'm not even being pejorative.
They make no bones about it.
That's where the old, well, you know, there's jobs the American people won't do here, and we still need that work done, dude.
Right.
So those are the motivating forces.
But look, the the uh I don't I don't think if you look at polling, the majority of American people are opposed to amnesty.
I don't I don't think anybody's getting away with this here.
If they do it, it's gonna be against a very large majority who don't want it.
They're governing against the will of the people.
It's it's not that we've lost the issue with the public.
You don't you don't need to say, hey, you know, you're worried about look at it, you want how many illegals have committed murder order.
You don't need to convince anybody.
Because most of the people, most of the people of this country are still law abiding, and to them it's simply a matter of law and order.
It isn't racism, it's not bigotry.
It's law and order.
There are other factors involved, of course.
But it's it's not complicated why people oppose this.
It has nothing to do with not liking people.
It has nothing to do with not being compassionate.
It has to do with the rule of law, which is the glue that holds the country together.
The Constitution doesn't mean anything if people don't respect it.
The constitutional law mean nothing if people won't obey it with the honor system.
Yeah, you have to enforce it and you have to punish lawbreakers and this guy.
We're not doing that.
That's what's got people concerned.
It really isn't any more complicated than that.
The American people are not hard to understand.
It's when you think that they're a bunch of rubes and idiots and and and hicks that you have a problem because you're you're you're never going to understand.
Excellent, Joe Klein.
I just I just printed Drudge highlighted this on his page today.
Joe Klein Time Magazine, well-known liberal, is constantly made fun of people in the South and rubs and hayseeds, and basically anybody he thinks is not properly sophisticated to understand the workings of the political class and the elites, the really smart people that run the country.
If you don't respect that, then you're you're a hayseed hick.
A troubled American moment.
As conspiracy theories abound, voters are uncertain about what to believe.
Now I've only had a chance to scan this.
I haven't read it in depth, so I could be wrong, but my original interpretation is that Klein's a little bit more worried about this now, and that he's not just chalking this up to the lunatic fringe, but I could be wrong.
I let's delve here a little bit.
He's in a town meeting in Shreeport, Louisiana.
And he's out as a journalist learning about people in places where you need a visa to go if you're a journalist, like Louisiana.
Like it's a zoo exhibit, exactly.
And the first question he got at a town meeting in Shreeport, Louisiana, was from Kevin and uh well when first question was how do you feel about the federal government buying tons of ammunition for the post office in order to raise the price of ammunition for gun owners?
Now that that, if that's the first question he got, I guarantee you he's up there rolling his eyes.
Oh my God, what kind of insane asylum have I found myself in today.
First question he got how do you feel about federal government buying tons of ammo for the post office in order to raise the price of ammo for gun owners?
And Kevin, I'm reading from the piece now, Kevin and Lois Martello, a dentist and speech therapist, professional people, had put together a group of 15 friends and neighbors to talk politics, and it was pretty intense from the Start, I asked Lee Foshi, who had raised the post office question where he'd heard that.
He told me he had several sources.
One of them may have been the right wing Breitbart website, I later learned, which has been tracking ammo sales to federal agencies.
Breitbart didn't mention the price-raising strategy, but Bill Kostelka, a certified public accountant, confirmed that he'd had to stand in line to buy 22 caliber rounds recently.
For the record, the U.S. Postal Inspection Service is armed and needs ammo from time to time.
That's what Klein says.
It's hard to know what to believe, said Lois Martello, the host and a dentist, who seemed as non-plussed by the post office ammo conspiracy as I was.
She and her husband are a bit more moderate than some of their friends.
Yeah, especially in the election season, she continued when all the ads are on the air, but even on the news, it's hard to tell what's real.
Klein writes, I was tempted to defend my profession, but we seem to be in a full-fledged American moment, and I didn't want to kill the buzz.
Anyway, Kevin Martello, the speech therapist, Lois's husband, tried to take the conversation in a different direction.
He said, I don't know about you, but I'm pretty concerned that the top one percent of the population controls 40% of the wealth in this country.
There were a couple of head nods, but not much commentary.
There was more concern about government waste than about unseen wealth.
Indeed, another chorus of consternation ensued, this time about food stamps, Wayland Bates.
Principal of a local middle school said he'd seen people buying T-bone steaks and giant bottles of orange soda with government script.
Others said they'd seen the very same thing.
And Foshi said that he'd seen long lines at a combination liquor store check cashing place.
On the day Social Security Disability checks came out each month.
Now, Klein writes, I've heard the T-bone steak and orange soda riff a number of times on road trips in recent years.
It's always T-bone steaks.
Sometimes it's dog food, too.
Is it true?
Maybe so.
There are food stamp abuses, no doubt.
Or maybe it happened once.
Somebody saw it, a story spread, sprayed into the atmosphere by talk radio, and now it's an urban legend.
The food stamp stories mix with more purposeful fantasies spread by interest groups like the NRA's constant spew.
The government wants to take away your guns rather than merely regulate their use.
And then there are the immigrant stories.
Costelka heard about a carload of Mexicans stopped by the local cops without driver's licenses or proof of residency.
And they were given a fine and set free, he said.
True, no doubt, but incomplete.
Fewer would-be immigrants have been crossing the border in recent years, and the regime has been sending record numbers back home.
Says the Democrats are swimming against the prevailing cynicism as they attempt to retain the Senate this year.
Across the South, their candidates are placing a heavy bet on women's issues, especially equal pay and education.
Some places like North Carolina, where traditional emphasis on education spending has been violated by the Republican state legislature, they haven't got a chance to win.
In Louisiana, where Senator Landrew is facing a virtual candidate named Bill Cassidy.
Local reporters claim they can't find a guy, and I couldn't either.
The incumbents facing a real hurdle, the hurdles Obama, about whom the crazy rumors are still thick, and the ads are constant.
Each of the Democrat incumbents running in the Southern states I visited has voted with the president more than 90% of the time, and that's one thing every voter who enters the polls will know next month.
Damn it.
There's also an undercurrent of fear about ISIS and Ebola that does not help the Democrats.
See?
It does not help Ebola.
Yep.
Oh, it could hurt the Democrats.
Oh, damn.
Oh no.
Ebola could be the undoing of our party.
Oh no.
Most of the people I talked with don't think this federal government's competent to handle anything.
And there's an undercurrent of exhaustion.
Especially among Democrats who've talked themselves silly trying to dispel the rumor fog that has engulfed political discourse.
These are stories that stick in my mind and rot the body politic.
They are a dominant political currency, not just in the South.
Okay, so I misinterpreted it.
He's still ticked off about it, and there's still rubes, and there's still Hicks and Hayseeds, and We're losing to them now.
That's his point.
Because some of what they believe might actually be a reason for them thinking it, damn it.
Ebola, oh my God.
Whoever thought an African disease would wipe out our party.
Sticking with the phone segment, a program Jacksonville, Florida, it's Michael.
Thank you, sir, for waiting, and you're next.
All right.
Good afternoon, uh Russ.
How are you doing?
I'm great, thank you very much.
So I I listened to two days' conversation about Ebola virus being active in male sperm for like 90 days.
That's what they say.
Yep.
And I'm getting ready to go into a convenience store, open up my wallet, and I've got all this US U.S. currency.
That's why I had a call.
You actually have some of that?
That's I'm happy for it.
Yes.
Yes.
And it probably has all kinds of previous owners' germs, and I'm just wondering what's the uh chance of this virus getting on foreign currency that uh make its way all over the world, plus currency.
Here's what I've heard about that the CDC, Centers for Disease Control says that Ebola can live on surfaces for several hours.
Several hours is as specific as they will get, and they also don't get specific on surfaces, but I would assume currency is a surface.
Well, it's porous.
So they're saying several hours that it can uh it can survive.
It's like a tabletop or uh yeah, yeah, whatever surface where where the virus is has come accounts with service, it's it's it's alive per se for several hours.
A second thought I've had uh reading an article on the uh American thinker website, this administration has always taken advantage of the next crisis to its fullest.
And we've got an upcoming general election in less than four weeks.
I'm just wondering what their game plan is.
Well, what are you thinking?
I'm thinking uh um institute martial law because of this outbreak.
Just a thought.
All right.
Well, let's let's explore that because you mentioned this in the context of the election.
How would uh how would uh declaring martial law before the election benefit the regime?
I I I'm not saying it doesn't.
I'm I'm just wondering what you're thinking here.
Well, if I mean if you can't leave your house, if martial law, if if you've if you're basically if you are an enforced recluse, how does that help them the before the election?
How does he even I mean that that's I I can't imagine something like that's gonna be cheered by people who then can't wait to go vote for the Democrat Party to keep doing stuff like that.
I mean, if they take control of the airports, take control of people coming and going in hospitals, institutions.
Um who knows what's up their sleeve.
I'm just saying this crisis might be the best one in their playbook.
Now, I I understand your you were thinking on this.
I've had uh it was in LA last week.
We're talking about this as a people.
And there are some people I've he you're not the first who have raised the possibility, and they didn't couch it the way you did, as in uh never let a crisis go to waste.
They thought it would be an ideal opportunity for autocrats, if there are any to use the th the the potential spread of a deadly virus as an opportunity to exercise further control over the population.
Under the guise of protecting everybody.
And don't forget that that's always the way things like that happen.
It's always for the benefit of the victim that these kind of things happen.
I have uh no feeling for it, and uh no no clue.
I'm my instincts on this haven't spoken up yet.
But I know there are a lot of people From all kinds of different walks of life, who are thinking that there are people running the show to whom this might be an attractive option.
Let's put it that way.
But then the next breath he says: no big deal in certain ways.
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