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July 25, 2014 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 25, 2014, Friday, Hour #3
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And the views expressed by the host of this program documented to be almost always right 99.7% of the time it's Friday, and let's go.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
It's open line Friday.
All right, the Israelis have rejected the ceasefire proposal made by the haughty John Carey who served in Vietnam.
The Israelis reject the ceasefire deal.
The only thing a ceasefire does is allow Hamas to regroup.
I think Hamas is on the ropes.
And that's why everybody wants a ceasefire.
I'm telling you, everything over there is ass backwards.
Everything in this conflict is it is 180 degrees out of phase.
They want the ceasefire to give Hamas time to regroup.
Well, we have to make it fair, Mr. Limbaugh, because the Israelis have the unfair advantage.
The writer and they're further advanced.
They're poor Palestinians and the and the Hamafians with the Hamafians don't have anything at all, Mr. Limboy.
It's totally unfair.
Well, that's just tough toenails as far as I'm concerned.
God for BB Nettanyao.
Telephone number if you want to be on the program today, 800 282882, the email address L Rushbow at EIBNet.com earlier this week.
A three-judge panel at the DC Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that there is a major, major flaw and problem in Obamacare.
The three judge panel read the law and they said, you know what, this law says that the only citizens who can get subsidies for their health care insurance are those citizens who buy it through state exchanges.
The law says that the federal exchange, healthcare.gov cannot provide subsidies.
But the regime has been providing subsidies through healthcare.gov in violation of Obamacare.
Well, when the three judge panel issued its two to one ruling in favor of the law, the rule of law, and the anti-Obamacare ruling, the left started caterwalling and whining and moaning and bleeding like a bunch of stuck pigs, that it was a it was a typographical error.
That it was a semantic screw up.
And everybody knew what Congress intended.
Congress never intended for people at the Federal Exchange not to be subsidized.
To which those of us up to speed said, well, guess they did.
If they had intended for there to be subsidies from the federal exchange, it would have said so.
It doesn't say that.
Says, in fact, it says just the opposite.
And the left said, no, no, no, no, no, everybody knows the intents of Congress.
So what has happened is somebody went back and found evidence from the man continued or considered to be the actual architect of both Romney Care and Obamacare.
His name is Jonathan Gruber.
He's a framer.
He's one of the founders of Obamacare, a Framer.
He's an MIT economics professor.
And in a 2012 video, the architect of Obamacare stated unequivocally that subsidies are not available in states which don't set up their own exchanges.
And furthermore, it is exactly as I told you earlier in the week.
This was done to put pressure on Republican governors.
There were 36 states that did not sign on to Obamacare and did not set up their own exchanges.
And so these guys are running around thinking that they had scored a major political victory because they thought that every American would want a subsidy.
And when they found out that they weren't going to get a subsidy, because their governor didn't sign on, that this would be very bad for their governor, which is a Republican, and they would get it rid of him.
So not only was this not a typo, it was put in purposefully so as to hopefully do political damage to Republican governors for not setting up exchanges.
There were many Republican governors who said we can't afford this.
We can't afford to take on the burden of Medicare, and we cannot afford the burden of providing subsidies.
Even if there's going to be a percentage reimbursed down the road, we can't afford it.
So they didn't sign.
Plus, they were opposed to Obamacare politically.
So there's a number of reasons why they didn't establish exchanges, but one of the big ones was they couldn't afford it.
And so this Gruber guy and all the other Democrats were out around talking about how this was specifically done to put political pressure on these governors that didn't set up exchanges.
And we have it on video.
Well, we have it on audio.
We have two bites.
First one, and they're both uh January 18, 2012, Falls Church, Virginia.
This is during a QA.
MIT economics professor uh Jonathan Gruber, who is recognized as the guy who wrote Obamacare and Obamacare and Romney care.
And by the way, he accepts that accolade.
There was a a QA.
Well sort of a town hall meeting about it.
And an audience member said, it's my understanding that if the states don't provide subsidies, that the federal government will.
I think what's important to remember politically about this is if you're a state and you don't set up an exchange, that means your citizens don't get their tax credits.
Whoo, that sounds like he means it.
Doesn't it to you, Dawn?
It doesn't sound like a typo to me.
Gruber said, well, I think what's important to remember politically about this is that if you're a state and you don't set up an exchange, that means your citizens don't get their tax go get their subsidies.
Right there you have it.
The tantamount admission that this was put in for political pressure.
And then after he said that, and I wanted I could have played the whole butt, I wanted to separate that because that standalone is what says it all.
It's important to remember politically.
It's a health care bill now, right?
It's important to remember politically is if you're a state and you don't set up an exchange, it means your citizens don't get their tax credits, mean they don't get their subsidies.
Here's he then continued with this.
But your citizens still pay the taxes that support this bill.
So you're essentially saying your citizens you're going to pay all the taxes to help all the other states in the country.
I hope that that's a blatant enough political reality that states will get their act together and realize there are billions of dollars at stake here in setting up these exchanges and that they'll do it.
But you know, once again, the politics can get ugly around this.
Right.
So Gruber is out there, by the way, saying there was a typo.
What makes this important is that is that Gruber, before anybody produced this video, an audio from 2012, was out spouting the party line earlier this week.
Nah, it was just a typo.
Everybody knew that we intended for the federal exchange to provide subsidies.
Then they found this video where it's abundantly clear that they didn't intend for the federal government to be offering tax credits or subsidies.
And they wrote it in the law that that would be the it's in the law that the federal government cannot and does not and will not provide subsidies.
And this guy, Gruber, in these two sound bites, explains why.
It was to put pressure on Republican governors to set up exchanges.
Pure and simple.
And with that, I'm gonna take a brief time out, catch my breath.
We'll continue in mere moments.
Time to head back to the phones.
This is uh this is Steve in Clearwater, Florida.
Thank you for waiting, sir.
You're next, and it's great to have you here.
Hi.
Russell, uh really a special thing to be on on Open Line Friday, and uh great show.
Just really hilarious.
Thank you very much, sir.
Quite welcome.
Hey, listen, I was wondering first off uh if we should change the administration's um slogan, see something, say something, into we see everything and we're speechless.
I mean, is that is that something they'd go with because uh, you know, I mean, see something, say something, I mean, wow, unbelievable.
Well, they're pouring across the border.
It's uh absolutely just completely out of control.
So anyway, I just wanted to tell you I wanted to start with that because I the see something say something just really scary.
It scared me eight years ago when they or six years ago when they started it.
And now to have the I saw it in the media just the other day that they were revamping it, and I thought, what a bizarre time to uh you know, revamp something like that.
Uh let's watch our neighbor why we have illegals coming across the border by tens of thousands and children at that at the endocumented and just you know gang members, you name it, it's unbelievable.
Um but what I wanted to say, so first of all, and you you were talking earlier about um disinformation and how we're indoctrinated and that type of thing, and actually that goes back to when I started listening to you, which was right about August or September of 1990, when Saddam was uh getting ready to attempt to start, you know, World War Three for a second time.
And uh with the huge debate that would let up to the uh January vote uh as to whether we should take action or not and try to stop him at that point.
And uh in the meantime we were building up and I was hearing everything in the media, and quite frankly, some of the things we were hearing was were pretty scary.
Um, I think the liberal media was basically focusing on Ronald Reagan having bought uh plenty of six hundred dollar toilet seats and that type of thing, and that our military was really just a shell, and um we were going to, you know, lose masses of masses of um troops and it was gonna be a total disaster.
And it was confirmed when they uh debated, I think it was like January 13th and 14th of uh 2000 and um I'm sorry, of um two thousand one.
Well, it took two days.
It took it took two days, and you had the media led by Sam Donaldson talking about how Saddam's army, fresh off of eight years of war with Iran was gonna kick our ass.
And that the American government had ordered 14,000 or 140,000 body bags or whatever, and that we didn't have a prayer.
We did not stand a chance against Saddam Hussein, because they'd take war seriously, and we're a bunch of pansies.
I remember that, and then we went well, we cleaned their clock in two days, and we let them slink back to Baghdad without wiping them out.
Remember, General Powell decided to be compassionate and nice rather than take them out once and for all right then.
Yes, thank you, Colin.
Exactly.
We needed UN Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Where is he now, by the way?
The titular head of the Republican Party.
We haven't heard from you.
He was big on Obama for two elections.
He couldn't Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
He was absolutely yeah, that he was, you know, gonna yeah, lead us and lead us right, yeah, right into, you know, the whole world was gonna love us.
As you said, you've documented that plenty and I know, but that's a good catch.
You know, that that's a good catch.
But I guarantee you, we've got young people in the audience that weren't even alive in 1990.
You don't know what's true.
And but that was exactly right.
We didn't have a prayer that were gonna wipe us out.
We shouldn't do it, in fact.
Right.
And if you didn't know what was going on and you listened to the debate in the Senate, you would have been you you you would uh you would have been under your bed.
You would have been hiding for cover because there was like it was so the the that was so inflammatory.
Right rivers of American blood that were gonna flow, we're gonna lose three hundred thousand troops in the first thirty days.
It was just simply outrageous.
And what I was gonna tell you then, because I've been moving south instead of moving north for my amigo card, I've been moving south for at the time.
I was uh in Georgia and I was near Dobbins Air Force Base, and I'm not a military person at all.
Um, yeah, I d I did not serve in the military, you know, my family has, but I I did not.
And um I just remember um prior to uh that January debate, I remember sitting out and having cups of coffee uh near that uh on my balcony and uh watching the the F-15 started to be more frequent.
The um the practice flying increased immensely from there.
You know what?
You know what?
I remember the exact same thing.
I remember being in Sacramento.
I was there from nineteen eighty-four to nineteen eighty-seven, and you can tell there were two military bases, Air Force bases.
And you can tell when something was ramping up, or at least you thought you could.
It could have ended up being training, but when you we started to see the C5s and all kinds of increased activity coming out of those Air Force bases.
Mather and uh the one that was near uh real interblock.
Anyway, uh it was cool.
It was it was you knew something was up, and you knew Reagan was behind it, so it was all it was all really excited, patriotic upbeat stuff.
And I I never forget those days.
You know, your your your memory about uh def the first Gulf Wall uh 1990, that's that's what Saddam predicted was going to be the mother of all battles.
And our media, you're right, they were predicting 300,000 casualties, and if you will remember, back then everybody thought Saddam was gonna gas us.
Because everybody thought Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, and everybody thought Saddam Saddam was going to wipe us out with chemical weapons, and so we had gas masks and this and the body bags, and we cleaned their clocks in two days.
They they had deserters in the first six hours waving the white flag.
It was, I remember it was one of the biggest uppers that we've ever had.
It was it was um Schwartzkoff and the boys were uh just it was just and the media couldn't have been more wrong.
McClellan Air Force Base is the one I'm thinking of.
McClellan and Mater.
Excuse me.
Anyway, I appreciate the call uh uh very much.
Here's Pam in Los Angeles as we uh as we continue.
Greetings and great to have you on Open Line Friday.
Hello.
Hi, Rice.
Well, what an honor this is, a thrill.
Um I'm a Tea Party Patriot, and I just wanted to make a point about the recent accusations that were heartless for not helping the children.
The leftists have been whipsawing the public Americans back and forth about helping the children, helping people with health care costs and calling us heartless.
But I recall that Kathleen Sabillius back in June 2013 was um remarking on a 10-year-old girl that needed a lung transplant, and she said, hey, some people live and some people die.
Um in other words, they're admitting that we have limited resources and decisions have to be made about these things.
But there are decisions to make as free people.
It's not the government's decision to make about charity, about how much to help.
These decisions do not get any easier whether the government makes them, but they are agonizing decisions, but there are decisions to make as free people.
And um, I'm just concerned that they understand decisions need to be made, but they would like to make them for us.
Naturally.
They're statists.
But, you know, you raise a...
Kathleen Sebelius was not the first to say, well, you know, in that instance, I mean, we just can't save everybody.
Don't forget that it was Barack Obama, his own self, on an ABC prime time special from the East Room in the White House.
Never forget this.
A woman stood up.
I swear I will never forget.
I can't believe this even happened, much less the answer.
Sure.
But ABC was doing a public service.
The American people were allowed in the East Room to ask their president about Obamacare.
And a woman, a citizen, actually stood up.
I never thought I would ever say this.
Ask the president if her mother's will to live would be considered In the government deciding to treat her, in this case, a pacemaker.
She was a hundred years old or some such thing, the woman's mother.
Now, just the fact, and I know to you regular listeners, I've talked about this many times, but keep in mind there are new people tuning in here every day.
So I pardon the redundancy, but I still can't believe that we've gotten to the point where a citizen has to ask the president if her mother can get a pacemaker.
The moment I saw that, so what is happening to us?
And how sad is that this woman apparently this is the only place she had left to go because the government was paying for it under Obamacare, or was going to be paying for it.
She wanted to know because she'd been to a couple doctors and had been turned down because nah mother's too old.
But they did find a doctor who would do it eventually.
The family found a doctor who would put the pacemaker in her mother.
So she wanted to know if Obama would consider, once Obamacare became law, somebody's spirit, somebody's will to live.
And Obama said, no, we can't do that.
It's too nebulous.
There are other factors that are much more solid in determining.
And we just have to face the fact that the compassionate thing to do for some people is to end with great love and with appreciation for all they've done for us, give them a pill.
So that they can at least enjoy the remaining.
Actually said the whole thing was surreal to me.
So it wasn't Sibelius who first acknowledged that the health care plan would result in some people dying because they just couldn't do anything about it.
As I mentioned a half hour ago, the AP is now reporting that the Israeli Security Cabinet unanimously rejected Obama and Kerry's truce plan for Gaza.
The ceasefire.
Unilaterally, unanimously, rejected it.
Because they know that a ceasefire is only an opportunity for Hamas to rebuild.
Mere moments ago, ladies and gentlemen, just moments ago, right here on this program, we played audio soundbites of you of Mr. Jonathan Gruber, the economist from MIT from January of 2012, explaining that, oh yeah, there was no way that people that sign up to healthcare.gov get subsidies.
No, no, no, no.
And in fact, said Mr. Gruber, the architect of Obamacare.
In fact, the politics is that citizens who live in states who do not set up an exchange are not going to get their subsidies.
Because there aren't any subsidies from the federal exchange.
He made it plain as day in 2012.
Shortly after we aired that audio, a reporter asked the press secretary at the White House, Josh Ernest, about the video.
The Jonathan Gruber video.
He said, Do you have a response to this, Josh?
Your critics are saying that this proves that subsidies were not to be provided from healthcare.gov.
Mr. Gruber filed an amicus brief in the Hulbig case, uh, taking the administration's side that all individuals should get access to those tax credits as long as they're eligible to get them.
So I think his uh his views on this are pretty clear.
I think that uh he described uh those remarks as a mistake, but uh I'd refer you to his explanation for why he said them.
I think what is clear is that uh he, like Congress, uh, intended for every eligible American to have access to tax credits that lower their health care costs, regardless of who is operating the marketplace.
He did not.
They're just lying through their teeth again.
He's now said, well, Groomer, he didn't really mean it.
No, no, no.
I think it's really clear that Gruber, like Congress intended for every American to get taxes.
No.
They intended for people that lived in states that did not have Republicans sign up to Obamacare not get the subsidies.
And the only way they couldn't get the subsidies was if the state didn't set up an exchange because you could not get tax credits at healthcare.gov.
It's in the law.
Gruber put it in the law.
Gruber's now saying, well, I made a mistake.
I didn't mean that.
And Ernest is saying, well, Eve, like everybody else, everybody, Congress always intended for everybody to get No, the law doesn't say it.
These people are shameless.
They'll lie to you in your face with impunity.
They will lie without any remorse or guilt or nervousness whatsoever to just get right in your face and lie to you and demand that you figure out a way of dealing with it.
There's another Gruber tape, by the way, this is not the only one.
It's from a public appearance he made at the Jewish Community Center at San Francisco.
And this was also in January 2012.
This was January the 10th.
And he made the same connection between subsidies and state exchanges on at least another occasion.
He didn't misspeak.
He went out there in January of 2012.
This was an election year, don't forget.
And they were trying to hammer Republican governors who had not set up exchanges, and they were trying to convince people in those states that it was those governors making sure they didn't get tax credits.
Why?
Because you couldn't get them at the federal exchange, healthcare.gov.
And now they're just lying right to our faces.
Josh Ernest, Jonathan Gruber.
I mean, it's just it's shameless.
But it's also instructive, folks.
If they'll lie here, when are they not lying?
And the answer is sadly very rarely.
Now back to the Israeli Hamas situation, because this is good.
Last night on CNN's Aaron Burnett out front, she interviewed the Israeli ambassador to the UN, Ron Dermer.
Now there's been all these arguments.
Um all of this uh pressure on Israel because they're just not fair.
They're not fair.
They're not telling, they're not telling Hamas early enough that they're gonna bomb them.
When's the when have you ever heard in a war that the person bombing you gives you 20 minutes lead time to get out of the way?
Never, right?
Well, the Israelis are doing this.
They're sending in little warning bombs that don't do any damage, they go off, and when that happens, you're supposed to vacate the building because an attacks coming in like five minutes.
Do you remember that time?
Remember that time when you were in school and you ended up in the in the janitor's office and you found all those uh surface-to-air missiles sitting in there?
Remember that time?
Yeah, right.
Because there wasn't.
Well, they found missiles in schools in the Gaza Strip.
And we played the soundbites on this yesterday.
They gave the missiles back to the police in Gaza, which is Hamas.
So anyway, there's been all this reporting about the schools and uh and and uh and Israel and how children are being killed and so forth.
And this ambassador is just livid at CNN for misreporting this.
And he was on with Aaron Burnett last night.
Her question, there's three sound bites here.
What happened here is horrific.
And we don't yet even know the scale of how many children may have died.
Initial reports indicated at least 16 are dead, and that this attack had come from Israeli tanks.
The Israeli military said it may have come from Hamas and a rocket which misfired.
Mr. Ambassador, do you know any more at this point?
No, I don't know, but I do know uh who's responsible for it, and that's Hamas, because they're using schools as weapons depots, and I think it would be a disservice to your viewers for a reporter from Gaza not to mention that in the last week we had two different UNRWA schools Where we had actually rockets found in the schools and handed over to Hamas.
That's publicly available information.
It's kind of an important fact for your reporter to mention.
Do you not think that it's relevant to report on CNN?
The Secretary General of the United Nations yesterday warned against the use of UN schools and shelter for rocket missile depots of Hamas.
What he's mad about here is that CNN is reporting that Israel is launching attacks on schools and killing children.
And in a horrible in 16 children died.
CNN's all been out of shape about it.
And they did not report that there are missiles.
These are these are targets of weapons where weapons are being held that are being fired into Israel.
Israel's taking them out with warning in advance, giving everybody time to get out of the school.
CNN reports none of that.
They just report that Israel is bombing schools.
And this ambassador is calling them on it.
And she could hardly get a word in before he continued here.
Uh what a sorry excuse for a news network.
You can hear this.
I've been listening for two hours of reports on CNN.
I have seen split screens, horrible pictures, horrible pictures that any decent human being would be horrified by.
I have not heard a single person say what I just said to you now.
And I think that that does a disservice to your viewers to not give them the context they need to make these judgments.
Hamas is placing missile batteries in schools, in hospitals, in mosques.
And there must be outrage by the world at Hamas.
This was not over.
This was not over, ladies and gentlemen.
And this next one is too much.
Because in this one, the info babe suggests that the warning shots from Israel are not enough.
When has anybody ever been so humanitarian to warn a target an attack is coming?
This is what Israel has been reduced to in order to be perceived as fair by the media and by the United Nations and by Hamas.
Because you see, Israel is like the U.S. big, powerful, and that's just not fair.
And poor little Hamas doesn't even have a chance.
So the Israelis, in order to try to get fair coverage, are warning their targets with harmless little missiles that hit the roof of a building puff of smoke.
It's enough to let you know that it's hit.
And it's a warning that a bigger attack is coming, and CNN here is unhappy that the warnings are not enough.
The reason that we're showing these pictures because these are dead children.
Would Israel have taken the time to confirm that those children were out of the school before you fired?
Send someone in to look.
Or do you think it's okay that you issued the warning and then just went ahead and fired the wheel?
I think you have no basis for making the statement that you just made.
Of course, we wouldn't fire directly.
What I understand is we gave people days to get out of that area.
There's a good chance that it may have been a Hamas rocket that hit it.
I don't know the facts.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm not blaming the media for showing the pictures.
What I'm blaming the media is for not connecting the dots.
The dots point to the responsibility of Hamas for using schools as weapons depots and caches for Hamas.
It's unacceptable.
And the outrage of the world has to be turned on Hamas.
But it won't be because the media doesn't want the outrage on Hamas.
Hamas is an innocent victim, the small little just barely eking out a survival victim.
Barely holding on against the evil Goliath that's Israel.
And they can't be blamed for putting rockets in schools.
It's the only way they can keep the Israelis for wiping them out.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, I wanted you to hear it because this doesn't happen much.
Where the media gets called on their absolute.
It's it's worse than bias.
It's just a lack of professionalism and everything.
It's it is biased but it's it's it's worse.
The chosen sides here, there's no question about it.
Here is uh Mike in Lynn, Massachusetts.
We head back to the phones.
Welcome, sir, to the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
Well, thank you very much.
It's great to have you here.
All right.
Um I have an announcement that's going to be, well, Remember in 2010, there was a huge um rally in Boston Common, where it all began back in the early 1700s, if you will.
Uh Sarah Palmer was there and numerous guests.
But this year, uh Lynn, Massachusetts, for the past year and a half has been a dumping grounds for mainly for from Guatemala.
Now, the um mayor, Judy Kennedy, is going to be speaking there.
And this has been orchestrated by Jeff Cooner of um WRKO Radio, and it's gonna start at 11 o'clock tomorrow to one, and they're expecting many, many thousands of people, believe me.
So wait, are you telling me, Mike, that the uh the vast majority of Obama supporters in Massachusetts are opposed to the Guatemalan kids being uh deposited in the Commonwealth?
Not the Obama supporters, sir.
The supporters of the Constitution, maybe, but not Obama supporters.
Really?
So the Obama supporters there have no problem with this.
I'm not sure because I don't talk to very many supporters of Obama, because it's like talking to a I know.
No, no, I I I understand.
I just Massachusetts is is uh God bless you guys, not a place that you expect to see people of protesting Democrats in such large numbers.
So God bless you.
That that's that's more power to you.
But it's uh I wouldn't be surprised.
Of course it won't be supported, but this is this is something.
This dumping of these kids coming.
This isn't vast majority of places are not hip to this.
You may be surprised at uh who shows up at your rally.
I hope you are.
I actually hope you are.
But good luck with it.
Lynn, Massachusetts is fighting back, and let's not forget, folks, one of the reasons we rebelled against King George is because he was forcing the people of Massachusetts to board British soldiers.
So the people of Lynn, Massachusetts have a long history of refusing these kinds of demands, which led to our independence.
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