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July 23, 2014, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Soundbite nine.
I forgot to give you a soundbite.
I forgot to work Soundbite 9 in there, so start with Soundbite 9, then we'll go to Soundbite 7, and we'll go back to number one.
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Here is Osama Hamdan.
He is the uh Hamas spokesman.
And I was interviewed by Wolf Blitzer on uh situation on CNN yesterday.
And Wolf Blitzer asked the Hamas spokesman, Osama Hamdan, are you deliberately targeting Ben Gurian international airport?
What the Palestinians are supposed to do?
To give their uh next for the Israelis to slaughter them or to try to defend themselves.
We were expecting that the international community will protect the Palestinians from the Israelis, will protect the Palestinians from the mentality of Netanyahu, who lost his morals and his army also, and he is uh reflecting a new image for Hitler and the Nazarest Army.
They are acting in the same way, killing the Palestinians just because they are Palestinians, like what Hitler was doing in the last century.
All right, now folks, this this has gone beyond absurd now.
Here we have the modern day Nazis.
The Palestinians, Hamas, you name it, are the modern day Nazis, where the Jews are concerned.
They are the current incarnation of Adolf Hitler.
It is their total hatred for Jews and their anti-Semitism that defines their existence.
That's the root of the problem.
It won't even be stated as such.
I don't, you know, whenever there's anti-Semitism in America, board that people can't wait to point it out.
They'd love to tar and fetter as many anti-Semites as they could.
And here you have a whole region full of them, and nobody will utter the word.
That describes the ideology of the Islamic jihad, which is anti-Semitism.
Militant, vicious, bloodthirsty anti-Semitism.
And this is this is now beyond absurd.
Here you have the modern day incarnation of the Nazis accuding, accusing the Jewish state of being a Nazist army, is what he said.
He meant to say Nazi or Naziist.
You have to allow for the speaking of a foreign language.
But this is just absurd.
And of course, incumbent in this soundbite.
The Israelis are slaughtering.
The Israelis are attacking.
The Israelis have lost their mortals.
The Israelis are inflicting a new image of Nazis.
And there's Wolf Blitzer just standing there, listening to this, nodding his head.
I didn't see it, so I don't know what his reaction was.
But that's how ridiculous this is.
Ladies and gentlemen, ancient Islamic jihad leaders, such as the old grand mufti himself, Met with the Nazis in World War II.
They knew they held something major in common.
And yet they automatically are granted victim status.
It's just it's absurd.
It's it's it's beyond absurd.
It's incomprehensibly stupid.
It ought not be given any recognition.
It ought not be given any cognizance given the time of day, this assertion.
But that's the Hamas spokesman.
And so we get a hashtag.
Jews and Arabs refuse to be enemies, please.
Jews and Arabs refuse to be enemies.
Man, I really am a good person.
You see my hashtag?
I care.
I wish they would all just get along.
I think it was only yesterday on this program in discussing the latest controversy in the NFL.
And that would be Tony Dungy telling a reporter for the Tampa Bay Tribune that he would not have drafted the openly gay linebacker from Missouri, Michael Sam, if he were still a head coach in the league.
I don't care.
Sam sure did have an opportunity, fine, should be given an opportunity.
That's cool, no problem.
I wouldn't draft him.
I wouldn't want, as he later clarified the media circus.
And one of the things that I said yesterday that uh that was in the form of a prediction.
So you gotta understand my impersonation, I'm impression of Dungey and his standing in the league.
I think he's always been, he's he's been occupying a very delicate position.
On the one hand, Tony Dungey is the conscience of the NFL.
On the one hand, whenever there is a question about the right thing to do, Tony Dungey is who they go ask.
Uh the media, uh NFL officials, Tony Dungey has achieved that status.
But the platform on which he is standing while occupying that position, very, very thin, and in fact may even be made of ice because Tony Dungy is also a very public, unashamed Christian.
And that makes a lot of people, not just in the NFL, anywhere you go where there are a preponderance of liberals, that is an automatic friction point.
So Dungy has always been, in my estimation, and I look, don't doubt me on this.
It's just like I knew 27, 30 years ago that the modern environmentalist wacko movement was actually just a new home for communists.
Don't doubt me on this.
I I know where of and what of and who of I speak.
So well, the no, it's it's it's that what I'm saying is that the accolades Dungey gets, as the conscience of the league, is not very deep because he's standing on a very thin sliver of ice as a public witnessing Christian.
That makes any place where there's a preponderance of liberals very nervous.
Christianity is a profound enemy of much of liberalism.
And the reason why liberals inherently know that let's put it this way.
Many liberals are liberals because they are seeking a they're seeking the declaration of normalcy for what they do, what they believe.
I I think That they look at Christians as intolerant, judgmental, punishers.
Christians witnessing Christians like Tony Dungey make liberals.
And I'm not just talking about lifestyle liberals.
I mean ideological liberals who be-I don't care.
Liberals covers a whole bailiwick of different kinds of people.
And they all are made nervous.
It is liberalism is their religion.
And remember, they claim that their religion is the one that's ultimately tolerant.
Of course, it is the least tolerant political ideology out there.
Well, if not the least, it's it's near the top.
They c they demand tolerance for whatever they do and think, but they do not tolerate anybody that disagrees with them.
And this is, you know, don't doubt me on this either.
This is not an opinion, this is fact.
You see it every day in this country by virtue of who they attack and why, who they try to destroy and why.
What institutions and traditions they're trying to destroy and why.
It is they done they're not interested in debate.
They're not interested in bipartisanship, they're not interested in everybody getting along, they don't want to hear it if they disagree with it.
They don't want to see it if they don't want to do it.
And so public witnessing Christians like Dungey who explain their own behaviors by virtue of their Christianity, who explain their belief systems by virtue of their Christianity, are automatic suspects.
So that's that's one leg Dungey standing on.
The other leg is conscience of the league.
Winner, African American, Super Bowl coach, uh considered to be unquestionably moral, and that is traceable to his Christianity, although they don't acknowledge that's the reason for it.
He's just a great, solid moral guy.
He's viewed to be selfless.
Uh is it but it's it's an it's a very, very delicate, uneasy combination.
And if one of those legs gets pulled out from under Dungey, then it's all over.
He cannot be one or the other.
He has to be both at the same time.
And if they are able to get rid of Dungey as the conscience of the league because over on the otherly is Christianity, makes him anti-gay, then, and that's what they know.
Now, Dungy up till now has been unassailable, unattackable because he never did anything to anybody.
And he's always stood for fairness, equality, all these things that are attached to good citizen Tony Dungey is, not just was, but is.
But there's this thing out, these Christianity, and it just the unspoken part of Dungey that everybody else, all the other liberals that are in the league, be they media owners, whoever, just a little bit of unease.
Now, if you doubt me, grab audio soundbite number seven.
Here we have an excerpt, an audio excerpt of yesterday's Pardon the Interruption on ESPN, featuring the co-host Tony Kornheiser and the co-host Michael Wilbon, who has become a golf buddy of Barack Obama, by the way.
And of course, Wilbon joined the chorus of uh of racists spreading lies about things I never said during the ill-fated period where I was said to be attempting to be in a group buying the St. Louis Rams, just the Wilbon is, but is known now as this host on ESPN and a golf buddy of Obama.
So Kornheiser, they're talking about Dungey.
Well, keep in mind what I just told you.
Kornheiser says, you and I differ on this, I think.
The under 30 athlete is going to be far more tolerant and accepting of different ideas, meaning Michael Sam in the locker room.
A younger, it's not a big deal to them, Michael.
And here's Wilbon's response.
I'm more skeptical.
And I think there is a component, a subculture of the religious right that is very influential in football.
Yes.
Tony Dungey has talked about faith a number of times.
And that he, you know, what he believes is at odds right now with Michael Sam in a locker room.
That's right.
And is stated lifestyle openly.
That's why I don't think this is going to go as smoothly as I think you think it's going to go.
Well, well, well, well.
So it turns out that there is a component, a subculture of the religious right in the NFL.
Bingo, and who's he talking about?
Tony Dungey.
So here we have in this exit, the religious right is a subculture.
But the gay player, who's the only announced gay player in all of the NFL is not the subculture.
The Christian right, the religious right is the subculture in the NFL.
There's a they're the guys that kneel and pray at the end of the game.
Makes people very nervous.
Do not doubt me on this.
You've got players of both teams after the game kneeling at the 50-yard line in the middle of the field and they'll and they'll have a little prayer session.
It makes a lot of people nervous.
But my point is here, this is it.
That's exactly my point.
Now that we've got Dungeons Christianity has now been thrown out in this part.
And is religious right.
It's a subculture of the NFL.
When you hear subculture, what do you think of?
You think of something in the shadows, something less than wholesome, you think that maybe something odd about them or whatever.
They to the liberals in the NFL and in sports.
I'm just telling you if you doubt me, just contrast all this with Tim Tebow.
A brief time out, ladies and gentlemen.
Again, don't doubt me.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, Rushland Baugh, as promised.
Checking on the blinking yellow lights of our state-of-the-art phone system to find out who's on the other side.
We'll start in Jerusalem.
This is Elvin, and I really appreciate your call.
Hello.
Hi there, Rush.
Good to speak with you.
Thank you for having my call.
Oh, you bet, sir.
I wanted to briefly just share three points with you, if I may.
Number one, I think of people in America, and I lived there for 14 years.
I I I was born here, I feel very much an American.
Okay, Elvin, if you could do me just slow down just a little bit to a county got a cell phone connection.
I want people to understand what you say.
Slow down just a little bit.
No problem.
Look, as having having been born in America and having lived in America for many years, I understand very much the American psyche.
But I wanted to share with people they should understand.
This war that's going on between Israel and Hamas, if if one exclude the moral component and just look at it from a fairly personal safety point of view.
If heaven forbid something were to happen to Israel, and you would no longer be here to fight this enemy.
The first American need to understand, we are next.
We are the great Satan.
And we will have terrorism and uh terrorism at our doorstep.
And it's not only someone else's war.
What's going on at the moment with God is those folks are fighting America's war, and people need to realize that.
Because without Israel, heaven forbid.
I actually think Elvin, I actually think that this is a great point.
Let me the second thing you said first.
People I'm going to include the Obama administration in this since what they do is what matters.
I think they do have a a bit of a superiorist view of this, as though there's something taking place way far away.
No impact on us, really.
They don't even view Israel as an ally.
They say that because they have to, but I guarantee you this bunch does not look at it.
Israel is a problem.
And I'm not speaking in religious.
Israel is a problem.
Pick a liberal democrat.
It's a problem.
And this conflict with Hamas or the Palestinians, however it manifests itself on a day-to-day basis.
It's just it's over there.
It's a thorn in our sides.
It's something they've got to deal with, but they don't think it has any practical application to the United States at all.
The first point you made, Elvin, is he said, let's take – just take the religious components out of this.
He says, look at it as – A war between two sets of human beings.
It is a devastating thing for people on both sides.
And it is something that that can't go on.
It has to stop.
And that Israel is taking on an enemy that also views us the same way.
Israel is the nation daily fighting these people.
And the point is if Israel loses, forget Jew and Arab, forget liberal.
If Israel loses this, then we're next.
We are.
He's right.
We are the great Satan.
We are despised and hated because it is it is thought that we make Israel possible.
So it's not something distant and far away that has no impact on us.
That is why so many of us on our side do not understand why this regime cannot possibly understand how Israel is an ally of ours.
Half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair, always interested in fairness and equality.
Here at the EIB network, this is Greg in Rochester, Minnesota, and thank you for waiting.
Hello, sir.
Hello there.
Are you there?
I'm right here, sir.
I'm very sorry about that.
I just wanted to make the point.
I'm uh a first-time caller, a longtime listener, uh, and this is Rochester in Minnesota, the home of the Mayo Clinic, just to put it put in a plug.
Uh your your point about in your monologue you said that the uh United States intentionally targeted civilians in the bombing of Hiroshima Nagasaki in Dresden uh is actually technically not correct.
Uh historically they were very careful to point out that they were actually bombing military targets in those cities, and uh because it's if they had the targeting civilians, that would have been uh considered uh a war crime and being against the laws of war.
Uh really.
Yes, because that there are laws of war.
So we had a surgical nuclear strike on Hiroshima.
Only actually there were more people killed in the firebombing of of uh Tokyo.
Over a million people were killed there.
But they made the same statement.
They were they're bombing the uh the workshop there.
So y you you you disagree with the premise.
My my premise was not that civilians were quote unquote targeted, but you bombed.
You bombed civilians.
You you you bombed and you committed acts against the civilian population of a country in order to secure victory.
You it wasn't we didn't just attack military installations bombing Dresden or Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
Um this this are you tired of the laws of war.
Well, frankly, uh not the ones you're talking about.
There there are actually laws of war.
There uh you heard of the Geneva Convention?
Uh yeah, I I'm very familiar with the Geneva.
We we granted terrorists uh the Geneva Convention rights when they aren't deserving.
That's the whole point.
The whole point of the laws of war is to try to prevent civilian casualties.
And that's uh like getting examples of the law of war.
You have to wear a uh uniform or sort some openly identifiable symbol that you're a combatant, so you can solve civilians.
When the when the Al Qaeda hijackers targeted the World Trade Center, what was that?
That was an act of terrorism, that was also called a war crime because they they did not, they were not uh you know identified as as uh combatants.
That was not that was not a war crime.
By the way, Japan never signed the Geneva Convention.
Um I know they didn't.
But what I'm saying is the re the reason you see some of the behavior you see in the United States and Israel also is that they're trying not to violate the laws of war.
But it's impossible when you have you know the combatants not wearing uniforms.
Do you also want to the other laws of war?
Absolutely, which is an Israeli uh rather a Palestinian or Hamas trick.
My point, my ultimate point in this is that we are tying one hand behind the back of every uniform military personnel in our country, wherever we are, Afghanistan or Iraq, with our rules of engagement.
And we are we're tying essentially Israel both hands, both arms behind their back, with this requirement that they only conduct surgical strikes of military targets only, which Hamas makes impossible.
And I'm just trying to contrast this with it, did not used to be this way.
Geneva Convention, laws of war, whatever.
The fact of the matter is, in World War II, there were massive civilian casualties, and they led to victory.
It's a horrible thing.
Now don't misunderstand me.
I am not standing up and shouting in support of this.
War is a horrible thing.
Nobody likes it.
That's the point.
The left thinks that military people are bloodthirsty, all insane generals that can't wait to start killing people.
Nobody likes it.
And it's precisely because there are civilian casualties involved that's at the top of the list of reasons why people don't like it.
It's how wars have been won.
It's just the nature of the game.
There's nothing clean or surgical about it, and there never has been.
And the effort to say that it can be or that it should be disingenuous.
You can have all the uh uh rules of war you want, which are words, and you can have all the laws of war you want, which are words, but there are precise, specific definitions of victory.
And you can take a look at every major conflict the world has ever seen, and you can easily discern the victors and the losers by virtue of casualties.
Because at some point the losers surrender, or they are either totally wiped out, but in no case does it happen with negotiations.
In no instance does it happen with the Red Cross going in with doctors and nurses and clean water and doctors without borders and all of this other feel-good leftist clap trap.
War is not clean.
It's not I I think I've always thought that this phrase war crimes is kind of redundant.
What Hamas is doing is criminal already.
The distinction between terrorism and warfare, that's another way to handcuff ourselves, in in my estimation.
And once again, with words.
Now, I did not mean to imply that the United States set out to wipe out as many civilians as possible, Hiroshima Nagasaki.
But when you're gonna nuke a city, sorry.
There is inarguably one thing that's gonna happen.
When you start dropping bombs from countless B-17s and B-25s over Dresden, there's certain realities that are going to happen on the ground.
The Germans, when they were launching their V-2s into in the into uh into London, there was nothing surgical about it.
That was terrorism.
It was also warfare.
Uh it's it's uh it's just it's one of these ugly, really hard to deal with realities.
But it it is what it is, but it's it's you can't you can't sugarcoat it.
What we're doing is trying to give ourselves some kind of comfort with words that our intentions are honorable by surgical strike this surgical strike that.
That's okay if you want to mount that as a PR campaign.
But when you literally tell an ally like Israel, when you're going to punish them for Hamas civilian casualties that Hamas is responsible for, you punish your.
This is so out of whack, it's so ridiculous, it's beyond the point of absurd now.
It's gotten to the point of dangerous.
And our caller from Jerusalem was spot on.
The only thing I would disagree with him about, I think the war has already been brought to the United States.
It's not just that.
If Israel is wiped out, we're next.
We're already in the mix.
They have already launched attacks on us, and they've tried, no doubt, several times since 9-11.
And there will be, there will be more.
And it's not going to stop until they're defeated.
Who do you know why was there no call to negotiate with bin Laden?
Why didn't everybody demanding that Israel sit down at some peace conference table with Hamas or why didn't we demand of ourselves do something with Bin Laden?
Or his number two, Zal Al Zawahiri.
All right, because then we knew there was pointless.
What what who now do we negotiate with with Al Qaeda to get them to stop?
What do we do in Iraq?
What are we doing in Afghanistan?
We're trying to wipe them out, right?
And we handcuff ourselves and we say, now you can't take out any civilians, rules of engagement, and so forth.
We're just we're making our own uniform personnel sitting ducks in a lot of these places.
It's absurd.
See, if you're gonna do war, here's the thing.
I uh I don't want to be misunderstood.
I think it should always be last option, but when you commit to it, you better go all in.
It is what it is.
The purpose of armies, never forget this.
My late friend out in uh out in Sacramento said that the purpose of armies is to kill people and break things.
And it is that simple.
That's exactly what happens in a war.
You kill people and break things.
Now, if you're gonna turn your agents of killing people and breaking things into a social experimentation playground, if you're gonna turn it into a laboratory experiment for equality and sameness and fairness, you deserve what you get.
Because if you don't go all in for victory, you are going to lose.
And that is unacceptable.
As Patton said, Americans love a winner.
Americans hate a loser.
But that was 1940s Americans.
Today we have a lot more Americans who think America's guilty just because we exist.
And because of our existence and how we have used our existence.
It's sick place out there.
And that's why I think you need really, really smart, brave people who understand exactly what's at stake every time this kind of policy is instituted, meaning war.
It is not something that you do halfway if you're serious about it.
There's another truism.
The aggressor always sets the rules.
You can have all the Geneva conventions you want, and you can have all the laws you want of war and all the rules of war.
If you're up against somebody in war who's breaking them, what are you going to go to court?
Hey, they're cheating on the battlefield is not fair.
You're going to be laughed off the battlefield.
That's not how you deal with it.
You don't go to the guidance counselor or the phys ed coach and say, hey, make them stop.
You deal with what's coming at you.
The aggressor in any conflict, be a bully in the backyard, or a set of bullies in the schoolyard, or on a battlefield.
The aggressor sets the rules in every case.
Look at Hitler's rules.
What was the objective?
Well, how are we going to stop that?
There was only one way.
And it wasn't with surgical anything, and it wasn't with words, and it wasn't with all this other feel-good happy horse manure stuff.
But it was just a hard cold reality that uh John Kerry, hey, this is a 21st century.
That stuff doesn't apply anymore.
That's old fashioned.
Don't these people get it?
Just absurd.
Dangerous and absurd.
And a brief timeout once again, folks, do not go away.
We'll be right back.
By the way, one clarification, folks.
The Geneva Convention didn't even come into play till 1949, long after World War II.
There wasn't any of this handcuffed rules of war, laws of war, Geneva Convention.
Japan was not a signatory because there weren't any.
Now, let me say one other thing about the atomic bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima Nagasaki.
I remember when I lived in Sacramento, they had a mayor out there by the name of Anne Rudin, and every anniversary she had this ceremony organized in downtown to basically apologize to the Japanese.
We're sorry.
And I I remember I I went nuts on every day that she did.
What do you mean we're sorry?
We we meant to do everything that we did.
What do you what what what what we apologize for what?
We meant it.
It was just liberals being liberals, and they wanted to assuage their guilt, and they felt don't be mad about it.
So they had these massive apology sit-ins or whatever the hell they were on the anniversary of these.
It just drove me nuts because we intended to do everything and why.
There was a military reason.
Well, there were two military reasons, but there was, in addition to the second military reason was actually a deterrent factor.
We knew that the Japanese were targeting a significant number of American soldiers and uh naval personnel, and it was them or victory.
And Harry Truman said he was not going to leave them to die.
The second reason, and this this one is just as important.
You wonder why the atom bomb has really only been used one time?
Well, if you count Hiroshima Nagasaki as one instance.
We dropped those bombs to show the rest of the world.
At the time, the power we had.
It was a message of don't mess with us.
You can only take us so far, and then we have this capability.
And they haven't been used since.
It's part and parcel of why do you build ever more powerful?
Bigger warplanes such as stealth bombers, massive cargo transports.
Why do you keep upgrading your nuclear arsenal?
And the truthful answer is so that you never have to use it.
Now you try that bit of logic on a liberal who is predisposed to hating the military, and like most of them, thinking that our military is the focus of evil in the modern world, and our military is an agent of destabilization in the world.
That's what they believe.
You tell them the next time a defense budget argument comes up.
No, we need to build that bomber, the bomber X, so that we hopefully will never have to use, oh, come on, you're stupid.
What do you mean?
You want to build a bomber so you can kill people.
You want to build a bomber so you can run around and oppress.
No, we want to build it so we never Have to use it.
And eventually, after they get rid of the histrionics, they'll say, Well, what in the world do you mean?
Build it so you never have to use it.
And he says, called deterrence.
As long as our enemies know and fear what we can do, they're not going to taunt us, they're not going to challenge us, and they're not going to take us on.
And that's why you keep upgrading.
And that's why you invest in the best defense money can buy.
That's why.
And then you advertise what you've got.
What do you think really worked about Reagan and Star Wars, the strategic defense initiative?
Margaret Thatcher always said that it was that, ultimately, which caused Gorbachev and the others to give up.
And it didn't even exist.
We were going to build it.
They knew we could.
They also knew they couldn't.
They were a third world country with a first world military, and they simply couldn't keep up.
They knew we could.
We didn't even have to build it.
And it worked.
That's why you do it.
And that's another reason why those bombs were dropped in Japan.
And they haven't been used since.
And those were small compared to what exists today.
Oh, yeah, still tons of stuff to go here, my friend.
We haven't even gotten to my January 2009 prediction that Obama would further divide America, which is now borne out by the latest polling data.
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