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Nov. 11, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 11, 2013, Monday, Hour #2
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Great to have you back here, my friends, Rush Limbaugh, the EIB Network and Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
And I am doing what I was born to do.
And so are you.
It's great to have you here.
The telephone number if you want to be on the program is 800-282-2882, and the email address is L Rushbo at EIBNet.com.
Rush, you do know that Jack London was a card carrying.
So yeah, I do, but he didn't live that way, obviously.
So he says it typically was a card carrying socialist.
He died, by the way, when he was 40.
Died in 1916.
Some people say it was suicide.
Nobody knows for sure.
But I don't I don't care.
See, he's a card carrying socialist, but he didn't live that way.
That was impossible.
He may maybe wanted everybody else to, but in terms of the way he lived, it's typical of what liberals do.
They never, very seldom.
And they always exempt themselves from the rules that they impose on others.
I sometimes wonder, and I'm sure you too too, if the Republican Party really knows what they're up against.
Let me tell you a little story here that happens to be true.
And I don't think the Republicans have the slightest idea.
I think they are so far behind the times in terms of where the culture is, they certainly do not know.
I'm convinced enough about their political opponents to effectively deal with them.
Try this.
It's a short little story, not a big deal.
It's from CBS Eyeball News in Annapolis, Maryland.
And just recently, last week in the election, Annapolis elected a Republican mayor.
Now, Maryland is a Maryland is a suburb of Moscow.
I mean, it it Maryland is a blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue state.
You can't smoke in your own apartment if somebody can smell it 300 feet, i.e., a football field away when everybody's windows are closed.
I mean, it is it's lost.
Maryland's gone.
The only thing good about that is they don't have hardly any electoral votes.
But I mean, when when when Barbara McCulski is a sex symbol, you know what that state has to offer.
You hadn't heard that, Snertley.
Well, I know you have to pretend.
Okay, if you don't like sex symbols, if Barbara McCulski is what everybody wants to be, then that should tell you.
Okay, now.
But somehow in Annapolis, which is where the Naval Academy is, they they elected a Republican.
And here's the story.
Just days after a Republican was elected mayor of Annapolis, City Council members say that they are going to revisit legislation that would strip the mayor's office of much of its power.
Since a Republican won, they're going to pass legislation.
It basically makes it a ceremonial position.
Until the next time the Democrat wins it, then they'll reinstall the powers.
Democrat Alderman Ross Arnett of Ward 8 told uh told uh CBS Eyeball News he's going to introduce a charter amendment to move Annapolis to a council manager style of government.
The city manager would report directly to the city council, not the mayor.
Under his legislation, the mayor's post would be ceremonial.
The mayor would retain a single vote on the council.
Arnett says the change would stabilize the city's management.
Now, I know a lot of communities, the mayor is a non-voting member or a one-vote member of the town council.
I know, but not the case in Annapolis.
This is what the Democrats are going to do.
They're just going to invalidate the guy's election.
Now, what did they do after George W. Bush won the presidency in 2000, they basically set out to invalidate it.
And this is who they are, and I don't, you know, you're you're sitting around now asking me every other day, well, why don't the Republicans do X?
And I think the overall answer is I don't, I don't think they really know what they're up against.
I honestly believe that, folks.
I don't think they know what they're up against.
And if, for example, in 2016, if a Republican is elected, do you think the Democrats are just going to sit there and accept it?
If a Republican's elected president, do you think they're just going to sit there and say, well, okay, you Republicans won, and yeah, you can have the judge appointments that you want, and do you think it's going to happen?
But this, I think this is classic.
Now, that's just half of the story.
Because while the Democrats in Annapolis, Maryland, and it's a harbinger of what's going to happen anywhere Republicans happen to win elections.
The Democrats, if they hold a majority anywhere else in the in the government, it's a city, town, state, federal government, they're going to do what they can to invalidate that election, or they're going to do what they can to emaciate the Republican who wins office.
Pure gutter, no holds barred fisticuffs politics.
In other words, the Democrats say to themselves, we never lose.
When they lose, they're just going to make sure their opponents are stripped of power and have no ability to implement anything.
And why wouldn't they?
I mean, here we're we have all these stories about massive numbers of people ticked off at Obamacare and Obama.
Is anybody in the street protesting it?
Is anybody out there acting really mad about is, you know, Occupy Wall Street was manufactured out of nothing to protest nothing.
And it was made to look like it was real and it was big, and they were protesting nothing.
Now, by tradition, the Republicans do not protest.
They do not march.
They don't do any of this civil disobedience stuff.
It's not in their DNA.
But where are all these people running through the streets livid over the fact that they were lied to by the president?
I mean, this is huge.
It's huge and it's personal, but you don't see that, do you?
Now, the media partly responsible, but that's a known quantity too.
Okay.
So this is bad enough.
Elect a Republican mayor in Annapolis, Maryland, Democrats make a move to make him ceremonial.
Because they control the town council.
And they're just gonna they're just gonna change the way the whole town's government structured.
And I'm gonna make this guy a non-anity.
Now the Republican establishment has announced, well, I don't think they've announced it, but the Republican establishment is targeting Tea Party officeholders, and they're going to uh primary them.
Uh and you know who's doing this is donors.
Republican Party donors in Alabama, first congressional district.
A set of GOP donors set its sight on someone they perceive as having caused the government shutdown, Michigan Congressman Justin Amish.
Business leaders are plotting to take down Republican Justin Amish, Republican Michigan, as part of a broader effort to punish Republican lawmakers over the government shutdown.
In a letter obtained by the Hill.com, prominent Michigan donors request financial backing for Amish's primary challenger Brian Ellis.
Seven individuals, including prominent Michigan businessman Mark Bissell, J. C. Heisinger, and Mike Jandurnoa, signed the fundraising plea.
They argue that Amish and others have effectively nullified the Republican majority in the U.S. House.
These are Republican donors.
The donor class has now begun to target Tea Party Republicans to get rid of them.
In other words, the Republican donor class has now begun to target conservative Republicans in the House to get rid of them.
Because they are nullifying the GOP establishment majority in the House.
Now, all's fair in politics.
Don't misunderstand.
Not crying over spilt milk about that.
I just think you ought to know that while the Democrats are planning on stripping power from every Republican they can do that with, the Republicans are also aiming at their own.
The Republican rich business donor class, as it's now known, seeks to unseat every Tea Party member of Congress in the House of Representatives.
So as to empower the establishment Republican majority, so that there will be no opposition to, say, amnesty, so that there will be no opposition to whatever the establishment wants to do on the budget, so that there would be no opposition to whatever the establishment majority wants to do on anything.
And it is a coordinated effort.
So while you have Tea Party groups that are out there like Freedom Works, any number of other organizations doing everything they can to find Tea Party candidates to run and in fact run against establishment Republicans.
I mean, I gotta be honest, it's it's go it goes both ways.
It's the Internecine War that's going on out there.
I just find the fact that the donor class has entered the fray on the side of the establishment.
Okay.
Thank you.
And I'm sure that one of the reasons why is they don't think the Tea Party will ever be the majority of anything, and they don't want to sidle up to that.
So I just find it fascinating.
The Republicans continue to destroy themselves while the Democrats do that too.
Back after this, folks.
Have a great day out there.
Now the donors, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
The donors are upset at the shutdown.
They don't like it.
The Republican establishment did not like the government shutdown.
And so the donors say that they're going after Amish in Michigan because he supported the shutdown.
And why did he support the shutdown to try to repeal Obamacare?
So the donors are saying that they don't think the Republicans should have tried to defund Obamacare even now.
They're doing this now in the midst of what is an absolute debacle and failure.
The Republican donors just can't seem to bring themselves to oppose Obama on anything.
And by extension, it seems like the Republican establishment has a tough time opposing Obama on anything.
So they got to go after their own.
Here from the article in the Hill.com.
Amish is among a rebel block of House Republicans who pushed Speaker Boehner to make a stand on Obamacare and to fight over to government shutdown and the debt ceiling.
See, in the world I live in, those are resume enhancers.
In the world I live in, Justin Amish and these guys get a standing ovation.
In the world I live in, we need everybody in the House being like this.
We need some brawlers.
We need some people who are not afraid to do battle with the Democrats to save the country.
But that's what it, you know, that's what it comes down to.
In addition to everything else going on, the Republican donor class, the consultant class, the Republican establishment, they don't think there's any emergency.
Obamacare is not an emergency, just the latest Democrat legislation.
There is no debt crisis.
It's not any big deal.
The country isn't threatened.
Our way of life's Not being upset.
There's nothing upset here.
Everything's just the Democrats are in power, and that's what we got to fix.
Got to put ourselves back in power so that we're in charge of the money.
And not them.
But they they don't think there's a crisis.
They're not concerned that their kids or grandkids are gonna have nothing when they grow up.
They're not concerned about jobs or the economy and none of that.
It doesn't appear.
They don't think there's a crisis.
That really is the dividing line between the Tea Party and the establishment.
The Tea Party thinks if something isn't done, the country is founded will not exist.
Those guys don't think that.
The Republican establishment doesn't, they think that's whoever.
What do you mean country's not going to exist as founder?
What the hell are you talking about?
It's kook talk, they think.
They just don't they don't believe it.
And that is the dividing line.
There are a couple others, too, but I mean that that is the big line of demarcation of difference.
No, they don't they no, they don't see they see what's happening.
They don't think it's a harbinger that the country's under assault and is is it they don't see the Democrats as trying to refound the country, if you will.
They don't see the Democrats as anything other than the current office holders that they don't think that there's any crisis.
They really don't.
And plus donors are like anybody else.
They want to be close to power.
They want cronyism, not ideology.
They want crony.
They they want to get close to power so that a Republican president will do nice things for their business in payoff for donations.
It's like it's happening with Obama.
They're not ideologues.
And they think that with the Tea Party out there, Republicans are never going to win anything, and they're never going to be close to power.
So their problem is the Tea Party.
The way the donors and the establishment look at it, the Tea Party is what's going to prevent them from ever regaining power.
Not the Democrats.
Tea Party.
And if you don't understand that, nothing will make sense about any of this.
Here's uh here's Steve in Newington, Connecticut.
We head back to the phones.
Thank you for waiting, sir.
Great to have you on the air.
Hi.
Oh, it's my pleasure, Rush.
Twenty plus years listening to you.
Uh thrilled the first time I heard you say what I was thinking.
So thank you for a lot of great years.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate that.
Hey, uh, my question is is simple.
I wanted your opinion on uh something the Republicans might want to offer, which would be to um to supplement but not supplant our current health care.
Where there is a problem with the rollout, Sebelia said that she wanted five years, and uh, you know, everyone's talking the senators up for re-election are talking about backing off the mandate.
Why don't we just say let's keep the current system in place, supplement it with Obamacare, and if it is that good, keep on running parallel tracks.
And you know, if people want to go to that way, they can, but just don't pull people off their current insurance.
And the left Obama and the Democrats try to sell it at that point.
Well interesting academic exercise, but you know it would never happen.
If I understand you're right, what what you're suggesting is okay, let the republics propose to people if you like your insurance, you keep it.
Like a doctor, you keep it.
Keep if you like your insurance, you like your health care, you keep it, and you don't get touched.
And then Obama can deal with people that don't like it, and the end of the day we see which one wins.
Yeah, run parallel because it's not ready for prime time.
It'll back them off the left of 2014.
Um, and they don't have to to cave on a million.
Well, here's the difference.
The problem with that, and uh I I may be misunderstanding you here.
The problem with that is Obama doesn't want what he's doing to work in the same way that you and I think of something succeeding.
His definition of this working is wiping out private sector insurance and everybody ends up on Medicaid.
You're looking at you're looking at the Republicans making political points by offering here's our solution.
You like your plan, you keep it.
Right?
Well, yeah, but also let let Obamacare you know, try to get on track and run parallel courses for a determined date or for it's indefinitely to let it be.
I don't know, I may be really thick-headed today, but d who's gonna let the Republicans do this.
Well, if it's not ready yet, and everyone's running up on the December 1st and January deadline where nothing's ready.
Obama's not gonna admit that it isn't ready.
It is ready.
They're gonna announce enrollment figures here.
They're on their heading on down the track.
There's nothing wrong.
Obama apologize for the way you're feeling about it.
He's not apologizing for what there's nothing wrong with it as far as they're because it's working just fine.
They'll get that website up and running by the end of the month, they say, and then we're off to the races.
Well, the other people that signed up could easily be absorbed into the current system.
I just would like to see someone say, let's let's not scrap the current system and let it run parallel and there's no way.
That's possible.
You've got Democrats.
Democrats are looking at 2016 because when Obama's gone, they're still going to try to be here.
You've got people senators walk up to the White House and say, well, he's just going to both be a good thing.
Well, it's too late.
The plans are gone.
You can't keep it.
We're that far into Obamacare.
You can't keep Obamacare on one track and then have people keep their insurance on the other track because the policies are gone.
They are vanished.
They have been canceled.
They have been done away with.
They don't comply with Obamacare.
There's no way.
It's it this is like my proposal after Obama was elected.
I wrote a piece of the Wall Street Journal.
I said, Mr. President, you want to spend a trillion dollars on your stimulus.
Well, give me 47% of it, because my side got 47% of the vote.
And I'll do with 47% of the stimulus what I think, and you do with yours what you think, and at the end of a year we'll see who's doing better.
He's never going to do that.
It was an academic exercise.
It was a think piece.
It was not proposed thinking that it was ever going to happen.
Obama is not going to sit, and there's no Democrat that's going to go to Obama and say, look, pal, we're sucking here, and we're in bad trouble, and you're going to have to let people start keeping their pol it isn't going to happen.
I don't care what the last thing that's going to happen here is the Democrats give the Republicans anything.
It just isn't going to besides the policies are gone.
Okay, we are back.
It's great to have you.
And uh I don't want anybody to think I was mean or dismissive of our previous caller.
Uh this some reality here.
In the first place, the Republicans have legislation out there.
It's been proposed.
You like your plan, you get to keep it.
There's all kinds of Republican alternatives.
They're never going to see the light of day.
I know that was the argument Ted Cruz, but Ted Cruz was trying for something different.
Groundswell, public opinion to stop it.
That's but the only thing it's going to work.
Congress is a follower.
It's not a leader.
And Cruz understood this.
But there is legislation to that effect before Congress.
And Obama's never going to sign it, even if it got through Congress.
But but here's the problem.
You cannot have parallel tracks with the right way on one hand and Obamacare on the other hand.
In the first place, Obamacare can't survive with private sector insurance.
The way it is today.
There's no need for Obamacare.
Obamacare doesn't peacefully coexist with the private sector.
Obamacare is not an alternative.
You choose Obamacare, you choose your policy.
You lose your policy.
Obamacare is mandatory.
There is no choice.
By definition.
You are losing your choice.
And all of these hundreds of thousands, millions of people being canceled are now learning this.
There is no choice anymore.
That's the whole thing with liberalism.
You lose your choice.
Everything becomes a mandate.
Everything becomes something you have to do, or you're in violation of the state.
Obamacare simply cannot survive with private insurance the way it is, and those policies are gone.
Even if you came up with a way to keep your current plan, at some point that plan's going to go away because it's not in compliance.
And once that happens, you're going to lose it anyway.
And then all you can do is go to an exchange and take what they offer.
And it isn't much.
Nobody, Nobody is going to sign up for Obamacare unless they're forced to.
That's what Obama knows.
Nobody would choose this.
This is why I, folks, I'm sorry.
For five years, four years, three, whatever it is, have been shouting this stuff from the mountaintops to people.
And because of people's attitude toward the presidency, they just don't believe a president would lie to them.
They didn't listen.
They didn't hear it.
Now the reality is seeping in, and they're even struggling with how to deal with that.
Nobody will sign up for Obamacare unless they're forced to.
And therefore everybody is going to be forced to.
That's why there is an individual mandate.
You have to.
Otherwise you wouldn't.
Even they know it.
Even the Obamacare people know it.
Nobody would choose this.
That's the whole point of liberalism.
You don't know what's good for you.
They do.
You will never do the right thing.
You won't spend your money the right way.
You won't donate to the right people.
You won't support government enough.
They have to take your money.
They have to tell you how to live.
They have to tell you what you can and can't eat and what you can and can't drive.
And they have to say how big your portions are good.
This is who they are, folks.
There is no parallel system where you can choose.
That happens at the ballot box.
That's where you have to make that choice is when you vote.
It's too late now on this.
The only solution is to get rid of Obamacare, not peacefully coexist with it, because that can't be done.
That isn't possible.
And the idea, well, maybe Democrats are in trouble, maybe Obama would go for that.
Obama's not up for reelection.
He doesn't care about the other Democrats.
He doesn't – here's the thing, that if you believe nothing of what I say – If you believe nothing of what I say, believe this.
What people do not understand is that as far as Obama is concerned, Obamacare is working perfectly right now.
It is happening exactly as it was drawn up.
It is happening exactly as it was designed.
Mr. Lombard, do you mean to tell me they intended for the website to fail?
Well, let me ask you a question about that.
I've got a story here about three nerds from San Francisco who went in and created an Obamacare alternative over the weekend that's up and running as it's a it's a it's a mock-up.
Do you know I would submit to you that there is a possibility this is a screw up on purpose.
Because there are two things that you do not learn when you sign up.
A, that when you sign up, every bit of personal data you give is irretrievable.
It's gone, the government has it, you can't get it back.
The next thing is you have to keep drilling down and drilling down and drilling down before you find out what this costs.
Every other website that you visit, the price of what you're going to buy is on the first page you visit.
That's the first thing they tell you is what it costs, because in most cases that's the selling point.
With Obamacare, it's hidden.
The costs, the lack of choice, the benefit range is what you never get to because you get the dreaded 404 page.
And it is my contention that that is on purpose.
That if the first thing you saw when you went to healthcare.gov was sorry, you lose your policy, your premium now triples, there'd be that that would cause the revolt.
They are purposely hiding this.
You have to drill down on this website so far that you can't get there before it crashes.
And so you're learning how much it's going to cost because your dreaded insurance company is canceling you, not Obama.
So you hate the insurance company.
You think they're typical, trying to kill you, don't care about you, big time corporate Republicans, right?
The fact of the matter is, Obamacare Has been set up so that you do blame the insurance companies and not him or the Democrat Party.
But those of you that have gone to healthcare.gov, tell me how easy was it for you to find out what your new costs are going to be?
And how easy was it for you to find out that you were going to lose your doctor and that your current plan was no good?
My guess is you never did learn that on that website.
So there's a part of me that thinks even the website screw up is on purpose, because nobody with $600 million could devise something this absolutely worthless, unless they intended to.
I mean, it's that bad.
You go to Amazon.com, whatever you go there for, there's the price.
And the sale price and the rebate, and here's the what it'll cost if you give a coupon.
None of that with Obamacare.
You don't know what the hell anything is going to cost.
They're hiding that from you.
They're hiding your premiums tripling there or doubling.
They're hiding your deductible tripling.
They're hiding what's happening to your out of pocket.
And they're certainly hiding from you that your current plan goes by the wayside.
They're putting all of the really important stuff on the back end of this website on purpose by design, not the front.
So my point to you is whether the website was designed to be a mess, I don't know.
But I can make a case for it.
That doesn't matter.
Fact of the matter is, if you believe nothing else of what I'm saying, understand that as far as Obama is concerned, Obamacare is rolling out nearly perfectly.
The only way that Obamacare will survive is if millions of people are forced into it by losing their previous coverage.
Now, I think at the end of the day, it's never really going to work.
That's the sad thing.
I mean, it's not, it's not going to work in the sense that you or I think of something working.
But we don't you have to understand the way the liberal looks at something working.
And their purpose here is not to provide you health care cheaply and affordably and plenty of.
That's not what this is about to them.
This is about taking over one sixth of the U.S. economy and controlling as much of your life as they can.
And I realize that a low information voter hearing may say that is not going to believe that.
That's going to sound like cook talk to them.
I know it's not persuading anybody to tell them that, but that's the truth.
It's a minute that this is this is.
I mean, I'm sure that they would love it if if you would happily give up your current policy and if you'd happily pay higher costs so that other people would be insured.
I'm sure they'd like that, don't misunderstand.
But the chaos, the confusion, the fact that you've got nowhere to go other than the exchange now, that's exactly as designed.
They don't want an option where you keep your plan available to you.
If you can keep your plan, this is this is why the nature of Obama's lie is so profound and huge and personal and impeachable, if you ask me.
This lie that you can keep your plan if you like it and keep your doctor.
That, folks, that's fraud.
My good friend Andy McCarthy wrote a great piece on this over the week in National Review online.
I mean, this this I got a question for you.
Um I think my brother tweeted this out.
I think that's where I saw it.
It is arguable now who committed the greater fraud, Bernie Madoff or Barack Obama.
Mattoff defrauded a few.
This is defrauding the entire country.
The president of the United States lied to the entire country on the most important thing To people, their health care and their current plan.
And remember now, I want to try this one more time.
His number one selling point that he repeated over and over again for three solid years was you like your plan, you keep it.
There's an obvious question that derives from that.
Well, then why change anything?
If everybody can keep their plan and keep their doctor if they like it, then what the hell is wrong with the pol what's wrong with health care?
If that's what it took to get your vote, if that's what it took to get your support for Obama, you like your plan, you keep it.
Then what was wrong?
Why do we need Obamacare?
Well, there's 30 million uninsured.
Oh, well, how are we going to insure them?
It turns out they're even not going to be insured after all of this.
But the this lie, you like your doctor, you can keep it.
Premium comes down $2,500.
You like your policy, you keep that.
That's why this lie is so bad.
It's because he lied about the most important fundamental truth of Obamacare, which is you can't keep your plan.
You can't keep your doctor.
By definition, they aren't going to exist under Obamacare.
And he knew it, and his regime knew it, and it's in the Federal Register.
They knew that 93 million Americans were going to lose their policies, their current plans that they like.
Obama in 2010, I've got the sound about here somewhere, even admitted to people that what's happening now is going to even admitted that eight to nine people right off the vet were going to lose their insurance.
He even admitted it.
But that's just a tip of the iceberg.
You don't have Obamacare if you have that.
You are mandated to have Obamacare.
Obamacare is not your current plan by definition.
And that's that illustrates the scope of that lie and why it is out and out fraud.
This is not just a political promise of promising to cut your taxes and then figuring out we don't have the money for it.
This is over the top, purposeful, willful fraud, because he knew that his legislative plan, his his health care reform plan could not work if everybody kept what they had and didn't change anything.
If there's no reason to change, then why are we doing Obamacare?
Now more and more doctors are dropping out of this and refusing to play.
It is absolute nightmare.
But again, all of that plays right into the ultimate objective.
Government running everything.
Such a big mess is being created now.
You can't go to your old doctor.
You can't go to your old insurance company.
They're not offering it anymore.
You've got one place to go now, Obama, Democrat Party government.
They are your savior.
That's the plan.
That's the design.
To have you begging them for insurance, not the picture of them forcing it on you.
I know.
And I take a break.
I got to climb back down here, folks.
And so to do that, I'm going to head, I'm going to head back to the phones.
We're going to Wheaton, Illinois next.
This is Linda, and I'm glad you called.
Great to have you here.
Hi.
Good afternoon, Rush, and thank you for 22 years of excellent education and why I'm a conservative.
I called today to give a name to the young man who was swept overboard on the Mayflower.
You had a previous caller that got quite choked up about it.
And uh that young man happens to be my tenth great grandfather.
And his name was John Hyde.
You are kidding me.
No, I'm not.
Your tenth great grandfather.
Correct.
Unbelievable.
Yep.
Yeah.
You realize how I'm feeling here of somebody in my audience of all the people of the country, somebody of my audience related to the guy who fell overboard on the Mayflower.
You know, and there's even a picture.
There is a an artist's rendering of that happening.
If if you Google John Howland, you you you can take a hit on this particular picture that an artist painted of him being pulled back on board.
It you know, I I started researching my family tree when I was laid off five years ago and got a free uh 30 days on ancestry.com and and made that hit on my father's side of the family through my paternal grandmother.
So it's made Thanksgiving mean something completely different to me from that point.
I can imagine I'm sitting here practically near speechless.
I have made you speechless.
Yeah, because this is so this is so uh so cool.
I mean really I mean of all the people of three hundred million people in the country and the one who is related to somebody recently written about my book calls me.
I just that is so cool.
Uh Linda uh thank you.
Thanks for my I've I've got to sign a book to you too.
So please hold on so Mr. Snerdley can get an address where I can send one to you back.
I know, I know, I promise the Sarah Palin sound bites will start the next hour.
They were gonna start the last hour, but I got diarrhea of the mouth again.
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