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Oct. 21, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 21, 2013, Monday, Hour #2
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Yes, Rush is a little under the weather today.
He's got a few uh Obamacare rollout glitches tickling the back of his throat.
Nothing nothing too serious, but just uh just a little glitchiness in his throat, uh and he's uh he's taken a day to rest up and uh tanking himself up on Theroplu, if you can still get that.
I uh I take it that's not uh a prescription drug yet like everything else is, but he will be back tomorrow behind the golden EIB microphone for full strength excellence in broadcasting.
In the meantime, this is your undocumented anchor man, the last unamnisted immigrant in America, Mark Stein, live from Ice Station EIB in far northern New Hampshire, as we follow up on the President's press conference, he was introduced by the first person in the state of Delaware.
This is gonna go down in history, by the way.
This is like uh uh what's his name?
The guy uh Hillary Clinton claimed to be named after.
So Edmund Hillary, who uh conquered Everest in nineteen fifty two.
This lady in Delaware conquered the Delaware Healthcare Exchange website and was able to enroll for health care.
The wor first person with Sherpas and avoiding all the Yetis and abominable snowmen to to hack her way up to the cross up the sheer ice face to the peak of the Delaware Healthcare Enrollment website and become the first person in the state of Delaware to enroll in Obamacare.
And she got to Uh No, I think that was another person, HR who was behind they they they had a uh a lady who's apparently diabetic behind the president, uh who who apparently fainted and had to be helped off the stage.
I think that was another person from the I it wasn't clear to me whether she'd enrolled in uh anything just yet.
I mean she f she fainted at the White House.
I take it if you faint at the White House, they will take you somewhere to be treated.
Uh but uh but the President had to help her.
She was so overcome uh by emotion when the President declared that this is a good product, the product worked, that that that uh that she fainted.
Uh the president said to people, forget about the website.
The Obamacare is more than a website.
It's not just a website, it's a way of life.
You'll enjoy once you get once you're on there and you're in the virtual waiting room with other people like you, you'll be with virtual neighbours.
You'll be sitting next to a virtual guy who's virtually coughing uh in an irritating manner every eight seconds.
Once you're in the virtual waiting room, everything will be fine.
And the best way to get to the uh virtual waiting room i is he said to forget about the website and call one eight hundred three one eight two five nine six.
One eight hundred three one eight two five nine six.
People have been doing it.
Uh Annie Lowry uh got a busy signal.
Uh Jonathan Weissman got a message saying, I'm sorry, due to extremely high call volume, no customer service representative is available.
Uh we're sorry, but due to extremely high call volume, all of our customer service representatives are currently busy.
Please call back later in the day or during the weekend.
Or like leave it till, you know, two in the morning when there's nobody trying to call up one eight hundred health care except uh the guy out in Guam, uh who's got a hernia and wants it treated urgently or whatever.
Uh leave it till two or three in the morning and you may stand a sporting chance of getting through.
This is the way it is now, folks.
Uh oh, and uh Byron York, Byron York, my old comrade uh uh from National Review a uh a few years ago.
You can now see him uh on Fox News and things.
Byron York just tweeted that you can't make this up.
He got through on the eight hundred number, followed the prompts, and w by the time you've gone through all the press one for English, uh press two if you've got a broken leg, uh plus f four if you've got erectile dysfunctional, whatever.
By the time he came through to the big thing uh on the Obamacare hotline, uh th when you get to the the mother load, when you hit the big time, when you go through all the prompts, it says Thanks for calling.
Please go to healthcare dot gov, sign in.
That's the uh that's the Obamacare Hotline.
We're different here.
1 800 282 2882.
You'll you'll enjoy our virtual waiting room.
You you really will.
So call us 1-800-282-2882.
By the way, I'd like to hear I said earlier at the show, I'd like to hear if you were successful enrollee, I'd be interested to hear from you.
I gather there are only like seven of them in a nation of th over three hundred million people, so it may well be that they're all busy introducing the president and the vice president and Harry Reed and Nancy Pelosi at Obamacare campaign stops across the land and so aren't available to call in.
But if you're a person who has supported Obamacare, who thought that this was the piece of the puzzle, this was what America needed to do.
If you're pro-Obamacare, uh call me up and tell me what you think of the way the rollout has gone so far.
Dick Durbin thinks it's going terrifically.
Dick Durbin uh said on uh the Sunday shows yesterday that he he thinks it's swell, he doesn't see what the fuss is about.
Dick Durbin thinks it's all going just dandy.
So if you agree with Dick Durbin, I'd love to hear from you.
one eight hundred two eight two uh two eight eight two.
This thing, by the way, came about half a decade back, the standard line.
Before Obamacare, the standard rap on American health care was oh, isn't it disgusting?
America is like the only country in the developed world in which there are tens of millions of people without any form of health coverage.
Isn't that disgraceful?
Isn't that obscene?
Uh under the Congressional Budget Office's own uh projections, by the year twenty twenty, there will still be over thirty million.
By the way, these will be revised up, but right now, the most recent figures, the CBO says there will be still be over thirty million people without health insurance uh in the year twenty twenty.
So uh that's uh I know that doesn't sound like a lot, but that's the entire population of Canada will still be uninsured basically by the year twenty twenty.
So the the idea uh of uh the idea of covering, providing universal coverage as Obama still calls it, he calls it universal health care.
If if thirty million people haven't got it, there's nothing universal about it.
So it doesn't solve that problem uh and by the same token, instead of dealing with the people who haven't got health insurance, it monkeys about with all the people who are actually quite satisfied with their health insurance.
Uh for example, NBC News reported at the weekend that in just two states, half a million people, four hundred and sixty thousand Americans in just two states in California and Florida, uh are currently facing insurance plan cancellations as they're being driven to the healthcare dot gov exchanges.
In other words, these people have uh having their existing health care.
These weren't part of the millions and millions, tens of millions of people who didn't have health care insurance.
These people did the right thing.
They'd made provision for health care.
Uh they'd they were paying their premiums every month.
They were grown up and responsible and they got health care insurance, and they're being told now, sorry, uh that plan is no longer legal on uh uh under Obamacare, we're kicking you off this plan, and you've got to go to the exchanges.
Except the exchanges don't work.
Uh and uh uh so you're being you're being told don't worry, we're we're kicking you out the door, you can't uh you can't have your health care through us anymore.
Blue Cross, Blue Shield, forget it, you're out there, but don't worry, there's this great new government website and all you have to do is go there.
Except that you can't.
Except that you can't.
You can't go on there, it doesn't work, doesn't function.
But there's four hundred and sixty thousand Americans in California and Florida alone.
This is NBC News uh reported this over the weekend, uh who are uh are being kicked off their present uh health care arrangements and being transferred to Now do you realize what's staggering about that is in just two states uh my colleague David French pointed this out in National Review,
in just two states that's ten times more people who are having their health coverage cancelled as having as have enrolled in Obamacare nationwide.
Supposedly some forty thousand people have enrolled in Obamacare nationwide.
And that's a kind of phony statistic uh uh and we really we're taking it on trust, but that's what they're saying.
That's what they're saying.
That's forty thousand.
It's about one third uh no, let me work it out.
It's about one sixth of one percent uh have uh have enrolled in uh in in Obamacare nationwide.
Ten times as many people have been kicked off their insurance in just two states.
I mean, this is this is not there's nothing kind or caring or compassionate about this.
It's actually uh it's actually extremely cruel.
It's extremely stressful to do it.
Florida Blue is terminating about three hundred thousand policies in Florida.
That's about eighty percent.
Eighty percent of individual f policies in the state of Florida have just been cancelled.
Kaiser Permanente uh in California has uh dropped about half of its individual uh customers in the state.
That's about a hundred and sixty thousand people.
Uh Insurer Highmark in Pittsburgh is dropping about twenty percent, twenty percent of its individual customers, while Blue Cross, uh which is the biggest insurer in Philadelphia, is dropping about forty-five percent uh of its individual customers.
So that lady in Delaware, the first pooh, look, we found her!
The Loch Ness Monster has emerged from the death depths and is standing on the stage introducing the President of the United States, the first person in the state of Delaware to successfully use the healthcare navigators to uh ascend to the top of the website and become the first successful enrollee in the state of Delaware.
Even if you accept these phony government numbers, uh multiple times, ten times uh in in uh in Florida alone, about eight times as many people have been kicked off their health insurance as have been enrolled nationwide.
Uh Obama, why isn't Obama owning this?
You imagine if Bush inflicted something like this on the nation.
You you imagine if a Republican president has had done this.
And Obama gets this was his signature legislation.
This is his.
It's named after him.
It's his.
And he stands up there and he goes, Well, this isn't acceptable to me and my team.
Uh it's yours.
It's not it's nothing to do with your what's acceptable to you.
This is you.
You did it.
The buck stops here.
Remember that?
The buck stops.
Where does the buck stop with Obamacare?
It's named after you.
It's your signature policy.
You own it.
You're doing this.
And the question the question here, how many Americans have to have their lives wrecked?
Because that's what it is now.
I mean, the amount of money for like lousy health insurance in this country with high deductibles, as we were hearing earlier, so you can have the highest deductible and you can have the most pathetic, constrained, restricted, shriveled little policy uh that obliges you to drive hours and hours and hours to see the one lousy doctor who's still in the network, and that policy still costs you a huge amount of money.
When are all those three hundred thousand people in Florida and 160,000 people in California and the uh forty-eight percent of uh individuals in the uh Pennsylvania in the uh Philadelphia area?
When are all these blue blue state blue voting areas?
When are these people gonna understand uh who's responsible for this and hang it round the neck of the president?
I would love to hear from you if you're one of the guys who supported this thing and who supports Obamacare now, because even by socialist health care standards, this is a disaster.
The introduction of the National Health Service in Britain wasn't like this, introduction of Medicare in Canada wasn't like this, introduction of continental health systems wasn't like this.
This is a disaster unknown uh to government health care systems anywhere around the world.
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Uh Associate Press response reports uh new architectural evidence has been found that ancient Britain's prehistoric Britons lived on a diet that included roast toad.
They found the remains of a partially burnt toad leg suggested that suggesting that hunter-gatherers in what's now the United Kingdom lived on roast toad.
The uh the the gentleman from Sim Simon Parfitt from the Natural History Museum in London said, Being English, we don't eat frogs, so uh they just eat at roast toad.
But you'll get you'll get used to it, foraging for toads after total societal collapse.
It's not it's not so bad.
Uh you do need something to wash it down uh with though, so uh make it one for my baby and uh one more for the toad.
Let's go to Joe.
Joe is calling us from the enrollee free state of New York.
Joe, uh which part of New York are you in, by the way?
Upstate New York, Central New York.
Okay, and you've n run into no uh Obamacare enrollees in your part of the state or any other.
No.
Okay.
What's all do you buy today, Joe?
Uh, I'm just uh my point would be that uh a lot of these established Republicans, um Carl Rowe of other toxic hosts, they keep saying that uh we should just let Obamacare implode.
Um my point being that um i i by just letting this implode, I mean it's causing irreversible damage that uh all of us are suffering in the meantime, and uh it's something that uh you're never going to be able to to roll back.
And uh I'd just like to know what your comment is on that.
Yeah, I I agree I agree with you there.
I mean, th these people, I mean Mitch McConnell's line now is oh uh just let Obamacare is going to be so self-evidently destructive that when we win our spectacular victory in the Senate election and the next presidential election, uh then we will be able to repeal it and roll it back.
When when do the Republicans ever do that?
There's Carter era innovations like the entirely useless Federal Department of Education, Federal Energy Department, even the National Endowment of the Arts, when uh it's uh for decades it's been mocked for uh giving uh public monies to crucifixes floating in urine and homoerotic photography involving bull whips uh attractively positioned.
None of those little nickel and dime things has the have the Republican Party succeeded in rolling back.
What what are the odds uh that when this thing implodes the Republicans are going to be making it such a tremendous case for genuine free choice in health care that Obamacare will be will be repealed?
Um I d I don't see that.
I think the danger here, Joe, is that people will once it's a disaster, people will the government for a start always doubles down on disaster.
So if it's a disaster, they'll say, Well, we'll need more government interference, we need a a tighter government system, we need more government control, we need government-owned hospitals, we need government uh employed doctors, we need government employed nurses.
Uh is it more likely they'll say that, or that the Mitch McConnell line, well, Obamacare's imploded, so now we can set up a proper private health care system in the rubble uh is gonna work.
I I think that's way too complacent.
Republicans have been complacent about the Department of Education, National Endowment of the Arts, and everything else for decades, and that's why they haven't reversed any of them.
I mean, Joe, what you you you you w w what where do you go on this, though?
How do you uh how do you tell the Republican Party they need a real strategy for this?
Well, I I think we need to start start electing more conservatives to begin with.
Um they need to stop putting up candidates like John McCain and um uh those kind of candidates aren't gonna get anything done.
I mean, they're talking about Chris Christie right now.
I mean, you're gonna go back to the same old, same old, and uh, you know, it's it hasn't been successful in the past, and you want to continue with the same plan.
Hey, you know you know what I'll uh you know, I'll just throw in a thought to that, because I was thinking about this a few days ago uh when we got this deal on the debt ceiling.
So we've blown through seventeen trillion dollars and uh it's gonna go up to eighteen trillion now.
Just another trillion dollars in spending, which is more than the combined total debt of Canada and Australia combined.
Their total national debt uh is less than just one late night bipartisan deal on the debt ceiling.
Uh that's uh and what's fascinating me about that is you say we need to uh elect more conservatives and uh uh and all the rest of it, is that uh these guys don't even have to be shouldn't even have to be that conservative.
It they shouldn't necessarily Be anything hardcore right wing about recognizing when something is a disaster and doesn't work.
Even your squishiest rhino squish.
I mean, we're talking here about the practical reality.
We're talking about uh Jeb Bush down in Florida.
Jeb Bush is nobody's idea of a Mr. Right Wing, Mr. Conservative.
A lot of people don't like him, uh, consider him a squish on immigration, all the rest of it.
That Jeb Bush in his state, a third of a million people have lost their health.
You know, Florida is is a tribute to American health, because Americans at the end of their days live such long active lives that they had to invent a state to put them all in.
So they could all play golf uh and go and watch Tony Danzer in Dinner Theater uh and do all the other stuff you do in Florida.
They had to create an entire state uh for old people to vacation in.
There's no state in Germany that exists just for old people to vacation in.
Uh there's there's no part of Belgium that exists just uh for old people to live uh and and so this Florida embodies what worked about American health care.
And instead, and instead, th uh a third of a million people have just been told, hey, you had perfect health insurance, you were perfectly happy with it, sorry, so long hassle of it.
He should even a rhino squish, even the squishiest jelly-spined nothing of a worthless slug of a legislature, should be able to see that that doesn't work.
And the complacency about this, uh the idea that all Republicans have to do is just like string along for a couple of years, Obamacare's disaster will take No, it won't.
Uh Obamacare will uh Hilaire Belloc's famous quote always keep a hold of nurse for fear of finding something worse.
People will cling to the government because government has wrecked their lives.
Yes, Russia's uh uh a little bit under the weather, a little bit under the weather day.
Got a bit of a got a bit of a tickle, get a bit of a glitch in the throat, uh a touch of uh early autumn flu coming on.
Uh but he will uh assuming the intense twenty-four hour shock treatment has worked.
He should be back here live for full strength, authentic all American excellence in broadcasting starting tomorrow and taking through the end of the week, so you need not be discombobulated by sinister foreign guest hosts.
Uh but don't forget if you go to Rush Limbaugh.com, by the way, uh Rush Limbaugh.com does work.
Uh we didn't uh spend half a billion dollars on it and nobody uh outsourced it to companies in Montreal.
Uh it was uh uh it's a website that works, and if you go on there and you're a rush 24-7 subscriber, you can get rush in almost any medium at whatever time of the day you want.
So it don't don't let the your Obamacare experience put you off this whole internet newfangled computer thing, say, screw this, I'm going back to my fax machine.
It worked way better than this Obamacare website type stuff.
Uh the Rushlinbore.com website does work, and if you go on there and you're a Rush 24-7 subscriber, uh you can you can enjoy Rush at times of your convenience.
You won't need it's not like Obamacare.
You don't need an Obamacare navigator.
You don't there won't be a Rushlinbore.com na navigator to negotiate you through logging onto the website or anything.
It's all very straightforward.
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Sad news.
Sad news, a dog that uh became an internet sensation after crashing an Indiana half marathon has died just a week after receiving a medal for completing the race.
Uh this dog went viral.
Uh one hundred pound chocolate labrador retriever named Boogie ran the thirteen point one miles of the uh October 5th Evansville, Indiana Marathon uh after escaping his leash the night before, and the organizers of the event, or whoever hands out the medals, gave him a medal for completing the race.
Uh the his owner, Jerry Butts, this is the thags that the poor old Boogie got uh was so thrilled by uh Boogie completing the race and getting a medal uh for uh completing the marathon that he made an appointment for the dog to be neutered after the race to curb his wandering ways.
So poor old uh the Evansville Courier and Press reports that Boogie died Tuesday of an apparent heart attack uh at the age of uh ten years, I believe it uh natural causes ten years old.
He wasn't trying to uh log on to pet care.gov and register for his Obama veterinary care or anything, but poor old Boogie, dead at the age of ten, a week after completing uh the Indiana half marathon.
Uh let us go to Sedge in the same state as uh no, no, no, not the same state.
Uh just uh a little ways away in Indiana.
But the Sedge is in Rockford, Illinois, got my two-letter postal abbreviations mixed up there.
Sedge, you're live on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Great to have you with us.
Hi, Mark.
Do you know you realize the uh Obama administration's is saying it's okay to commit a felon.
If you don't have insurance, they'll just fine you.
But because Obamacare is a federal program, that fine is a felony.
Think your credit rating is going to be ruined, you'll never be able to get a federal job, and the Obama care's new model uh should say Obamacare felony w felons welcome.
Yeah, you know, that's actually an uh a very interesting point, Sedge, um because if you think about it just in uh in purely uh financial terms, the the the most affordable kind of health coverage in America now is that six hundred and ninety-five dollar fine or the two point five percent of your income.
Because if you if you look at what people are paying now for health insurance, it's cranked up way past two point five percent of your income, it's way over six hundred and ninety-five dollars.
So if you're a relative for many people, the rational thing to do would be to say, uh I'm not gonna get any health insurance.
It doesn't matter if I get sick because uh there's you can't be dec decline coverage for pre-existing conditions, so I'm healthy at the moment, I'm just gonna pay the six hundred and ninety-five dollars.
But you're saying now that in fact while that makes sense in economic terms, uh it could do uh substantial damage to just your credit rating and your background check, and uh three, four, five, six, seven years down the road, it may it it it will it will show up on your record and affect your ability to get a job or access credit or all kinds of other things.
Is that right, Sedge?
Yeah, I mean it's a felony.
Yeah, I mean it's a federal program.
Right.
So the fine is a felony.
You know, no if cents or butt.
Well, that's that's an uh that's that's uh I don't know whether it's I don't know whether it's technically a felony, it's certainly a violation of a law for which you're being fined.
So I don't know whether it just merely look it's looked on the fact that i uh I don't know whether it simply has the same status in a legal sense as say a late payment on a mortgage.
You know, if you pay a mortgage payment late once, that's uh you know, that that'll all get lost in the wash.
But if you're doing it month in, month out, uh it starts to tell.
And by the same token, if if you've got, say, five Obamacare, six hundred and ninety-five dollar penalties in a row on your record, whether that that actually comes out and uh and starts affecting your uh ability to get credit, ability to get a mortgage, ability to borrow money for a car or whatever.
That's that's the question, Seg, whether it'll it'll have practical consequences on your life.
And you reckon it will.
Oh, for sure.
I mean, I worked uh uh processing Medicare Part B claims, and I was always told if you break a federal law, it is a felony.
So so in other words, I mean that's it that's interesting if you if you uh if you if you look at it that way.
I mean, I tend to take a relatively relaxed uh view of that.
I mentioned on this show uh a couple of years ago that I went in the office one morning and and found my uh office manager Ashen faced holding a letter from the New York State Bureau of Compliance uh informing me that I was in noncompliance with the Bureau of Compliance and the fine for that was fourteen thousand dollars or whatever it was.
I mean, I tend to take the view that uh there are laws against everything now.
There or more to to be more precise, there are regulations against everything, and that at any one time anybody is in breach of three hundred different micro laws or whatever.
But in this case, Uh essentially uh this is something that uh and and by the way, just uh uh look at it from this way, uh Sedge, just look at it from the constitutional point of view.
Uh basically uh Chief Justice Roberts attempted to argue that this was in fact a tax.
It's not a it's not a penalty at all.
So it's uh the admi the administration's position is that a f is that it's a fee.
Uh Chief Justice Roberts um uh way of getting himself off the awkward hook of being able to rule Obamacare constitutional was that it came under the taxing power of the United States.
Uh but you're saying that in effect it's basically you're being penalized for breaking the law.
So in effect it's the equivalent of having multiple parking tickets uh or multiple fines for breaking some other kind of ma you know, it's the equivalent of driving too fast and uh getting uh fined and all the and all that.
You're saying it's uh so in other words, we have three contradictory views here.
The administration says it's a user fee or it's a fee.
The administration says it's a fee.
The Chief Justice says it's a tax, and you're saying no, the important thing to bear in mind is that it's a crime.
And that'd be interesting you're okay.
If you look at it as a federal tax, if you uh if you break a tax law, it's a felony.
So it's I would go uh with uh Supreme Court.
And um, that's what I think.
That's a great way of looking, uh that's a great look in in the case of any what happens, by the way, this is this is the Washington Post said what happens uh if you if you can't pay the penalty.
Uh section fifteen oh one of the Affordable Care Act reads such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such pe uh failure.
If the penalty does not come out of a refund, it does not fully disappear instead it gets carried over to next year's tax filings, and the IRS is allowed to charge interest on any unpaid tax penalty.
So the tax penalties accumulate.
And so actually, Seg, simply in in IRS terms, looking uh rather than looking at it in uh in in any more basic terms like that.
In theory, it's just like anything else where you get in trouble with the IRS and uh they can take a lien on your house and uh and all the rest.
It's it's a fa it's a fascinating point, Seg, and thank you very much for making it.
Do you know this is but th th this is the craziness.
This is what I I just want to expand.
I'll do I'll do this in the next segment.
I wanna I want to say why this isn't just socialist health care.
This is something nuttier than socialist health care.
Uh because it involves everything in a way that socialist health care systems don't.
Uh and I'll return to that point in a minute, because this is just this is just insane.
Mark Stein in for Rush, 1800-282-2882.
Mark Stein in uh for rush.
You know, I I said I'd I wanted some liberals who loved Obamacare to call in.
1800-282-2882.
Because I love I love it.
I'd love to hear how swell you think the whole thing's gonna and all the rest of it.
And it's unfortunate that uh liberals don't uh don't like don't like to call and b b batted back and forth uh with someone who disagrees with them, and they do this thing with Rush where instead they just uh want to get rush kicked off the air, so they're running this campaign, uh whatever it's called stop rush to get to get the show cancelled, to get it banned, to get radio stations to drop it, advertisers drop it, bam, bang it, stop rush, because that's that's the great liberal debating platform.
Shut up, he explained in uh in Ring Loudner's great line.
Shut up, he explained.
And uh so this guy who's part of this uh stop rush campaign is claiming now that I faked my HIV test by bribing the doctor fifty dollars uh uh to uh to just give me a clean bill of health of that.
That's not what I said.
I said that was some other guy uh, in fact, uh who worked for the Wall Street Journal and went to get his blood test studied Brooklyn.
And that's actually the doctor.
The doctor gets such little you're missing the point, you dimwit liberal.
If you could if you'd call up, instead of being like such a little Princess Prissy pants and just trying to get people banned the whole time, if you're actually man enough to get on the phone and uh and talk through this stuff, you wouldn't keep missing the point.
The point here is that doctors who conduct blood tests for immigrants uh are reimbursed so little that it's not worth them giving the test, that it's easier, in other words, uh for them just to get the patient to pay them fifty bucks to fake the thing, uh, to just fill in the form and sign off on the form.
Uh that's the point.
That's what happened to this guy from the Wall Street Journal, not me in Brooklyn, uh he went to Brooklyn.
I went to see some uh doctor for my blood test in Enos Berg Falls, Vermont, which is as far as you can get in America without being in Canada.
That's how hard it is to find a doctor in Northern New England who will administer the U.S. immigration blood tests.
Uh nobody wants to do it uh because the reimbursement rates are so low.
And that's the way it is with Medica, and that's the way why so many more doctors don't want to be part of these government uh government programs.
But you are welcome to try and get me deported.
Good luck with that, you know.
Uh you go d basically uh INS or whatever it's called this week, Department of Homeland Security Deportation works like the Obamacare website.
You can go and you can sit in their virtual waiting room.
It's an actual bricks and mortar waiting room, but it operates like the Obamacare virtual waiting room.
And you can sit there for three hours and say Mark Stein uh is a fraud and should be deported from the country, and they'll take your phone number and say, Yeah, we'll get back to you in ten, fifteen years.
You can't deport nobody or nothing from the United States in America.
So this uh this guy uh Nick Luck, who's claiming that I need to be deported for blood test fraud, good luck with that loser.
Why don't you try calling in?
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I love talking love talking to liberals uh on this show.
It's always uh always my uh my happiest uh time.
Uh and by the way, speaking of that, because that's the next thing that's coming up, which is the US uh immigrate comprehensive immigration reform.
And it's it's uh I I I saw this uh over the weekend, a couple of days ago.
Uh and it's and it's fascinating to me because uh the most important point about any kind of issue is how you frame the issue.
And the immigration is always framed, illegal immigration, which isn't immigration, but illegal immigration is always framed in this sentimentalized way that has that actually prioritizes the people at the receiving end.
Oh, they're just hardworking, patriotic, hardworking Americans, uh they're the the they're just uh people who are just like Americans in waiting, as soon as we figure out a way to bring them out of the shadows.
There's nothing better than it it's all about it's all looked at from their perspective.
And it's interesting to me that in the United Kingdom, they've just started essentially in uh David Cameron, who's again is nobody idea of a right wingy, he's a complete unprincipled opportunist squish, in many ways a contemptible man and utterly repellent.
But it is fascinating that the way the illegal immigration issue is f uh framed in that country.
He's got vans going round immigrant neighborhoods.
They're called go home vans, and they're just basically these billboard vans.
Uh if you know, they've got one billboard on one side and one billboard on the other.
And the billboards are a huge poster of handcuffs and the and the slogan in the UK illegally, go home or face arrest.
And then there's one of these 100 1800 numbers underneath that you can call, not to get an amnesty, not to get a path to citizenship, but just to get one-way travel documents that will assist you in getting the hell out of here.
Uh go home fans, uh and and his message to uh the undocumented is go home or face arrest.
That's your choice, go home or face arrest.
I don't know whether he means it, but it's interesting that that's how he feels the debate ought to be framed.
Whereas here, nobody, no one of these clever consultants to the 2016 candidates, uh, your Ted Cruz, you ran Paul, even they all go a bit mushy and a bit squishy when the talk turns to the fine upstanding members of the undocumented American community.
Nobody would ever talk uh about the issue in those terms.
And it's fascinating to me how about how even Amer even in America, even conservatives hold the borders of the country uh so cheap.
Uh The idea that somehow uh when you've got a population of lawbreakers living here illegally, uh sending making money in America and sending it out of the country, uh back to Mexico and uh and everywhere else, that that should only ever be seen as a victim's rights issues, like at that bipartisan rally on the National Mall the other week.
Uh it doesn't work that way uh anywhere else.
And uh trying to imagine anybody, not just Democrats, but uh Republicans, trying to imagine anybody here saying, you know, the message, the choice is go home or face arrest.
That's the vans uh that are driving round immigrant neighborhoods in the United Kingdom right now.
Mark Stein in for Rush, 1-800-282-2882.
From Broome, Western Australia.
A woman has been charged after police caught her driving while a man lay on her co car hood dressed in a dinosaur onesie, wearing a snorkel and smoking a cigarette.
The the pair are French nationals.
So I don't know I don't know whether that's uh a French thing or an Australian thing.
Uh but this uh this this woman has been charged after her passenger was lying on the hood of the cars they were driving, dressed in a dinosaur onesie, wearing a snorkel and smoking a cigarette.
Knowing the anti-smoking thing, it was probably the it was probably the lying on the hood smoking a cigarette, I should think.
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