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October 15, 2013, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Okay, so what is the state of play now?
Even I, ladies and gentlemen, your know-everything in-touch host, even I, mere moments ago, was still trying to get the lay of the land on where we are on what's going on in Washington vis-a-vis the supposed shutdown, vis-a-vis continuing resolution, vis-a-vis the debt limit.
I think I got it nailed down, and I've also learned something else.
I actually didn't learn it.
We know it.
I just had it confirmed, and it's about the Republican attitude, and it's so unnecessary.
It's so defeatist.
The Republican attitude is because they're total prisoners of what goes on in the Beltway.
They're total prisoners of the Beltway narrative.
They think, and I'm not kidding, especially in the House, they think the last 15 days have eliminated any chance they've got of winning any elections in 2014 and 2016.
And I am not kidding.
They think Cruz and Lee and the people that led this have doomed them.
And they are defeated.
They are out of strategies.
They don't, it's just mind-boggling that they don't have the long view, that they don't understand the seeds that they're planting right now.
They're planting some, Pat Buchanan has a really good column today in which he can see, yeah, the Republicans are going to lose this, but it would be wise for them to remember history and losing with honor.
And he cites the Goldwater era versus the rhino-lib Republicans led by Nelson Rockefeller and the gang and how even back in 1964, Goldwater didn't have a prayer because they're coming off the Kennedy assassination.
Kennedy had been martyred.
JFK had like a 70-point advantage in the polls.
And it makes the point that Nixon was even campaigning harder.
And this is the point.
Nixon was the only other than Reagan, but Nixon was the only nationally known Republican of the time that stood by Goldwater and campaigned even harder for Goldwater than Goldwater campaigned for himself.
And Buchanan's point is, look at what happened to Nixon versus what happened to all of those rhinos that threw in against Rockefeller.
They were never heard from it.
Nelson Rockefeller never got the nomination.
Scranton, all of these guys, George Romney, they never amounted to anything in the party.
They never won anything, particularly nationally, after they abandoned Goldwater in 64.
Now, I know a lot of you people, come on, Rush 1964, that's long ago.
History, they say, repeats itself in ways.
It's not necessarily true, but you certainly can learn from it.
But the fact is, they're doing the right thing here, whether they've been dragged into it or not.
They're doing the right thing.
They are warning the country of the absolute dangers of Obamacare.
They have done it.
Well, some of the Republicans are.
Others have been dragged, kicking, and screaming into it.
But the people have led this fight.
The people have done their best to educate the American people as to what's coming are going to be vindicated down the road.
They are going to, as it is said, be stood in good stead.
They're going to be okay.
And the Republicans that wanted to cave and give up and just go along with the Washington narrative are never going to be heard from again.
They're not going to have much respect.
They're not going to be seen as fighters down the road.
And it's silly to think that what happened in these past 15 days means that 2014 and 2016 are already lost.
You know, Obama's running around here talking about how every Republican proposal is a ransom or taking him hostage.
I'll tell you who's held hostage.
The Republican Party in Washington is being held hostage.
And they're being held hostage by the Democrats, which is always the case.
They're being held hostage by the media, and they're being held hostage by these skewed polls.
That NBC Wall Street Journal poll on Friday, I think, was the icing on the cake as far as these guys feeling doom and gloom.
Now, I've got details what I'm talking about.
Let's talk about the state of play right now.
It looks like the Senate Republicans want to give Obama and the Democrats everything they want.
They want to give an extension of the continuing resolution through the end of the year, which would then open the government.
That would end the shutdown.
They want to give them a debt ceiling hike through the middle of January so that we're not going through this during the holidays.
And oh, they're also even offering a delay on one Obamacare tax for their union buddies.
I mean, it is a total, it's a total win for Obama.
And you hear how Obama reacted to it?
He rejected it.
He rejected it.
He said, the Republicans have offered another ransom.
I sit here, I'm as far away from Washington to be in the continental U.S. as you can get here in Los Angeles, and I'm still stunned that those guys much closer than I don't see this.
And I know you see it too.
Obama does not want a deal.
This has always been about the 2014 midterms and coming up with ways that he can blame the Republicans for whatever pain and suffering and abnormality he can create as president of the United States.
In the meantime, the Republicans think that their only solution is to end this because that will stop the bleeding and that will make people forget about it.
And then maybe they'll have totally forgotten about it by the time 2016 comes along.
Now, in the House, let me give you the latest details as I have them as to what the House is offering.
They were in conference this morning, and apparently there's going to be a vote today.
And here are the five provisions of what the House would offer if this holds up.
And I might say that Obama will greet this as ransom as well.
The House Republicans are probably going to vote on the following.
House members, senators, the president, the vice president, cabinet members would all have to go into Obamacare, meaning they would not be exempted.
They would not be subsidized.
The staff not included in this.
House members, senators, president, vice president, cabinet members would all have to go into Obamacare, but the staff would not.
They would still get their subsidy.
Be a two-year tax suspension on medical devices.
Somehow, this is thought to be a big deal to people.
The vibrator industry must be thriving out there because if somebody wants to call it a medical device and got a tax exemption on it, there would also, the House is going to propose income verification at the exchanges for Obamacare.
Right now, Obama suspended all of that.
There's no income verification in order to qualify for a subsidy because their computer systems ostensibly are not up and running to be able to tell who does and who doesn't qualify.
So it's the honor system.
You just go in there and say, you know what, I qualify for a subsidy and you're supposed to get it.
The Republicans want to put the verification for that back in.
The continuing resolution, as in the Senate bill, would go through January 15th.
So the budget, the federal budget essentially would open up.
Whatever shutdown there is would end and the government would be funded through the middle of January.
And the debt limit, the debt limit would be extended through February 7th.
So it is a, well, it's a pretty, pretty, I want to call it cave because I don't want to incite anything here, but these are pretty big concessions.
And it is that the Republicans really think that they are.
I can't tell you from what I've heard these last 15 days, they just think their world has ended.
And they don't, it's so bad that they cannot envision a way, even using the long view, of turning this into a positive.
I wouldn't say the Republicans are in a no-lose situation, but I'm telling you that the D.C. media have convinced them they're in a no-win situation.
Who's convinced them of this?
Their own consultants, the Republican establishment, the media, and the Democrats have convinced these conservatives.
And I'm not talking about the Tea Party guys.
The Tea Party guys are still okay.
There might be a couple of waivers in there, but the Tea Party people are still pretty solid.
I'm talking about everybody else.
They're the ones that just want to end this and get away and go home and forget it and pretend it never happened.
So those are the two proposals.
Now, I'm sure it's true for you as it is for me.
Those of us outside the Beltway, we don't understand why the people inside the Beltway always believe and fall for the media narrative that we're always getting our butts kicked and we cave.
Why do they always accept it?
Every poll that comes, it's almost as though some people want the news to be bad.
I don't know, maybe they've got personal gain they can realize somehow if the news is bad, or maybe they're just defeatist.
Maybe some people just psychologically ill-equipped to deal with success because in their minds they don't think it's real.
I mean, there could be a combination of things to explain this, but it's been going on for so long.
The evidence is so clear.
The media is never going to love them.
The media is never going to respect them.
The media is never going to treat them fairly.
They're going to have to go out and above and beyond the media, reach the American people, which has been shown it can be done.
But there is this attitude of, well, we can't.
We can't win.
I mean, that seems to sum up the Republican view everywhere.
We can't win.
And I just, I totally, thoroughly reject that.
You may not win this, today, or this week, but you might win 2014 and 2016.
You might win in preparing the American people for the absolute debacle that is about to hit them.
If there was ever a time to keep harping on Obamacare, even if you don't have the guts, if you want to give up on the idea of repealing it or even delaying it or defunding it, I should say, if you want to give up on that, at least double down on identifying what it is for people so that when it happens to them, there will be no doubt who told them and who warned them.
But there doesn't even seem to be any impetus for that.
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This was on a Fox News channel yesterday.
And they had, I mean, this had to be a wet dream for some conservatives.
You had George Will on there and Dr. Krautema at the same time.
Who would that be a wet dream for?
I'm trying to think now.
Let me take a change that.
Who would that be a really that that would be orgasmic for George Will and Dr. Krautema on the same show at the same time?
Can you imagine that person to whom that would be an orgasm?
Well, anyway, it happened.
And they did, in fact, disagree.
Dr. Krauthemmer.
And that's how Henry Kissinger says his name.
So that's all I'm doing here.
I was once talking to Dr. Kissinger, and he was recommending to me the Krautema Cullum of the day.
And I said, what's it about?
He said, what?
I said, the Krautema Cullum.
And he started telling me what it was about and why he liked it.
So Dr. Krautema and George Will and Krauthammer's of the belief that the Republicans are pretty much tossed it away here and it's time to cut their losses.
George Will had a totally different take on it.
The Republicans are coming out of this very well.
The president who said, I will not negotiate, is effectively, through proxies in Congress, negotiating an unclean extension because the Republicans woke up to the fact that they have in their hand a tremendous hammer, and that is the sequester, which Democrats hate, which is written into law and will continue in effect for the rest of a decade unless the law is changed and changing it with this Congress is going to be heavy lifting.
Now, Will said this, I think, also on Sunday.
The sequester is the Democrats are trying to get the sequester taken out.
That's part of what they want.
They want the sequester.
It's a budget cut that works.
You know what?
You know why the Democrats don't like the sequester?
Because it's a budget cut.
It's not big, but nobody notices.
There's no pain.
So that's the worst budget cut that can happen.
Something that actually cuts spending and nobody notices.
Proving you can do it.
Worst thing that could happen to the Democrats.
That's why they want to get rid of this sequester.
That's why they like government shutdowns.
So they can cut things that actually affect people that they will feel that they will cause them discomfort and blame it on the Republicans.
But the sequester, and everybody was scared to death of it before it happened.
But the idea that we've got dollars in this budget that we can't cut, because if we do, there's going to be utter disaster for people, is flat out BS.
And this sequester proves this.
And Democrats want to get rid of it.
So Will's point here is the Republicans have a gold mine on their hands in the sequester if they'll hang on to it.
And his opinion is the Republicans will stay unified over the sequester.
I'm not so sure.
It's not that they love the sequester, is that they're in such a get out of this as quick as they can mode that I'm thinking they, based on what I'm saying, I wouldn't be surprised if they gave up everything just to get.
I mean, I'm not kidding, folks.
They say, we, you and me, we don't understand why they keep falling for this.
What is it?
I understand being hated.
I understand the media this, the media that, and I understand they've got to go out and get votes.
But I, but the effort, there's no effort to countermand it.
There's always this appearance to us anyway that they succumb to it.
But I'm like you, why would the Republicans, I mean, I've shared with you what their proposals are.
Why do they want to amend Obamacare to make it more palatable for people?
I mean, a lot of these guys got elected campaigning on the notion that they were going to do what they could to repeal it or to defund it or to delay it.
And apparently those were just campaign words to get to Washington.
And now things are so dire that even the proposals they offer are things that will make it more palatable.
Why would you do that?
These are the same people who say it's going to implode on its own.
Somebody, I'm told, by the way, I got to take a break.
Somebody quoted Lincoln, and I got to look it up.
I'm not sure Lincoln said it.
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Now, here's the Lincoln quote.
And I'm paraphrasing.
Let me see.
Hang on.
Fine idiot.
It's somebody quoted Lincoln in this meeting, and essentially it was the best way to get rid of a bad law is to let it fully implement.
That is a paraphrase of the quote that I am told somebody in, I don't know if it was the House or Senate, but it was a Republican caucus meeting today mentioned.
And of course, how convenient is this is a strategiery that the Republicans have evolved.
Let the thing implement.
Let's back out of the way, you know, when your opponent's committing suicide theory, get out of the way, let it happen, and so forth.
But we're talking about an entitlement, and none of those have ever been repealed other than the one with Rostankowski.
I think it was Lincoln who once said, don't believe any quotes you read on the internet as well.
Well, you know, for the longest, when I started the show, there were these 10 things Lincoln said that were just, they were never said by Lincoln.
They were great conservative theory, but they were never said by Lincoln.
They were said by a preacher, a pamphleteer of the day.
And I had all these Nimrods sending this to me as though they were onto something revolutionary.
It wasn't Lincoln.
So anytime Lincoln is quoted, I just apparently did say it.
The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.
I think it's a legit quote.
So anyway, that was used today, so it's just the Republican philosophy and theory on this.
So sit tight because if there's an Obamacare stack about, it's just bad.
Just sit tight.
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Okay, I've looked it up here, and it's a legit quote.
Abraham Lincoln, there's a problem here.
The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.
Well, there's a problem.
We're not enforcing it strictly.
We're letting Obama waive and delay the bad parts of it.
In fact, some of the proposals from the Republicans are to make it more palatable.
This bill was a stinker from the get-go, and Obama knew it.
There were over 2,500 waivers.
He has allowed members of Congress and their staff to be subsidized up to 75% of their premiums.
He's exempted unions from it here and there.
He's delayed the employer mandate for a full year.
So we're not strictly implementing it.
We're not.
Obama is extra-constitutional.
He doesn't have the power to do what he's doing unless nobody challenges him on it, and nobody is.
He's just not implementing some of the bad parts of it.
So the idea that we're going to sit here and enforce this thing and strictly enforce it and have it implemented, people see how rotten it is, Obama's doing everything he can to delay that till long after he's gone.
At the Barack and Michelle Obama Peace Garden for Social Justice in Hawaii, where are they going to go?
So while all this is going on, what are the Democrats doing?
Well, the Democrats are calling law-abiding Americans terrorists, crazies, and anarchists.
The Democrat Party is favoring deficit spending when we're broke.
The Democrat Party is defrauding Americans with Obamacare.
No apologies.
The Democrat Party favors the end of the doctor-patient relationship.
The Democrat Party favors the IRS running health care.
The Democrat Party favors running the private sector via regulations.
There's no allegiance to the rule of law.
The Constitution's viewed as a liability.
And in all of this, the Republicans are the problem.
The Republicans are holding the Democrats hostage.
Where do the Democrats go from where they are?
I mean, there's nowhere to go other than one-party rule by decree.
What's to stop Obama from banning Congress somewhere down the road?
Believe me, I mean, you think that sounds extreme.
If he thought that he could do it and get away with it, he'd give it a shot.
That's his modus operandi.
Get rid of opposition.
Get rid of debate.
Get rid of disagreement.
Just broom it.
Ban the First Amendment.
Nationalize the media.
Get rid of the Second Amendment.
You know what they want to do.
We're getting dangerously close to nobody stopping them.
And in the middle of all this, it's the Republicans who are holding people hostage.
It's the Republicans that are holding a gun to people's heads.
It's the Republicans that are demanding ransom.
That's all a crock.
The really damaging, negative, harmful, mean things happening to people in this country are happening from the Democrat Party.
I've always seen in these poll numbers on people opposing Obamacare, I've always seen an opportunity for the Republican Party, political party, to bond with the American people as the party of the individual, state sovereignty, liberty, balanced budgets, free markets, all that.
It's just sitting there.
It's just a pot of gold.
It's just sitting there.
It's just waiting.
The Republicans, though, think that the whole country's gone over to the left side because they believe all these polls.
Well, I've got some research data that shows vast majority of the American people think that one of the biggest problems of the country right now is the government.
No, it's not in the mainstream media.
It's a couple of think tank wonks who've gone out and done a scholarly study, founded on Power Line.
They're not the only ones.
It's not the only place you can find this kind of evidence.
The polling data on Obamacare, majorities have always opposed it.
There's always been an opportunity.
This is what those of us outside the Beltway don't get.
And I guess it's just that what happens in the Beltway is the world.
There is no world outside the Beltway for people who live and work there.
When the Democrats right now, the Democrats in Congress are willing to hold this country hostage and risk default rather than give up their 70% Obamacare subsidy.
Don't for a moment think that's not part of what this is about.
Members of Congress and the Senate want their subsidy.
They want 75% of their Obamacare expenses paid for.
And they are willing to hold the country hostage and shut down the government and risk the credit rating, all that garbage for their own personal gain.
Make no mistake, that is a factor here.
Just to preserve the subsidy for their Obamacare premiums.
It's been the case in the past that Republicans did.
They were once known as the party of the individual, of state sovereignty, liberty, balanced budgets, free markets, all that stuff.
And I know some people may rush those terms aren't going to persuade anybody.
Free markets, who knows what?
Low information crowd.
I'm not talking to them right now.
I'm talking to you.
The Republicans know what these terms mean.
Ever since Obama took office, I've seen this golden opportunity for the Republican Party to bond with the majority of the American people.
And you see the 2010 midterm results?
It was there.
It's the same old saw, folks.
The Republican leadership is not conservative.
The Republican establishment is not conservative, so none of that interests them.
Let's go to the politico here.
What Obama and Republicans get with a deal.
And I'm only sharing this with you because this is the kind of crap that influences what happens with Republicans.
And the politico in this story, they're already crowing.
They're already applauding.
They're celebrating.
They've got their victory.
The Republicans are caving.
That's the whole tone of this story.
It's a tremendous Democrat victory.
And really, from their standpoint, who can blame them?
From their standpoint, this is a complete rout.
The debt ceiling's been raised enough to last to the middle of January.
This is what the Republicans have proposed.
The Republicans have proposed the debt ceiling raised enough to go through the middle of January and without the sequester cuts being locked in, which means it looks like the sequester, contrary to what George Will said, sequester, could go bye-bye by the end of the year.
And the Democrats are still going to carve out, they're going to get a carve-out for their union soldiers.
That's a detail at the bottom of this politico story.
And never mind that that will once again change Obamacare, which is the law of the land and you can't touch it, right?
We can't defund it, Rush, Mr. Limbaugh.
We can't delay it.
It's the law of the land.
It hasn't been the law of the land since it first began implemented when Obama decided to piecemeal it.
Again, that's why we can't let Lincoln's quote apply here because we're not going to be enforcing it strictly.
Now we move over to Britt Hume.
This is real clear politics.
And Britt Hume wants to know what is the Tea Party really trying to get out of this shutdown.
And Britt Hume, and I don't say this, by the way, with any antagonism.
Don't misunderstand.
Don't anybody write Britt Hume and say that Limbaugh is ripping him to shreds.
It's not what I'm doing.
I'm just giving you the perspective.
Here's the politico, approved media leader for the White House.
Let me go over to Fox.
Here's Britt Hume, and he says veteran political observers on both the left and the right are still trying to figure out just what the House Tea Party caucus and its Senate Pied Piper Ted Cruz were thinking when they insisted on using the threat of a government shutdown to fund or defund Obamacare.
It was a hopeless strategy that has not only failed in its stated goal, but it's helped send the Republican Party to its lowest favorability ratings ever.
In conventional terms, it seems inexplicable, but Senator Cruz and his adherents do not view things in conventional terms.
They look back over the past 50 years, including the supposedly golden era of Reynoldus Magnus, and they see the uninterrupted forward march of the American left.
Anyway, Mr. Hume goes on to basically say that people have no clue what they're doing.
I mean, what'd they expect to get out of this?
This is a wasted 15 days, and they've taken the Republican Party to its lowest standing in a decade or longer.
And that's only if you believe these polls that miraculously appear at just the right time to create this kind of commentary, which takes me to Pat Buchanan column, but I got to take a brief EIB obscene profit break right now.
But sit tight, folks, because we're just warming up here.
We're just, I mean, if you didn't know better, you'd think I was on steroids today.
I assure you, I'm not.
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My name, once again, invoked on the Senate floor this very day, just this morning.
Our old buddy, Senator Dick Turbin from Illinois.
Remember Dick Turbin comparing the people at Club Gitmo to Nazis in the Gulag, the Soviets in the Gulag and Pol Pot after erroneous reports of the so-called torture going on down there.
Senator Turbin speaking about the government shutdown on the Senate floor just this morning.
I've heard my colleagues, some of them on the floor, arguing, well, we just have to pick and choose who's going to get paid and everything will work out.
You really won't even notice.
Reminds me, Mr. President, you were in the House as I was when there was the Gingrich shutdown of the government.
And Rush Limbaugh and others announced they'll shut down the government and no one will notice.
We don't really need a government.
They noticed in a hurry.
And after two weeks, they finally reopened the government.
This, sadly, is much more grievous and will have terrible consequences for innocent people.
I didn't say any such thing.
I didn't say nobody will notice.
I didn't say we don't really need a government.
The budget shutdown of 1995, once again, was an honorable fight, folks.
That's what everybody's missing.
It was an honorable fight.
And again, the history of that budget shutdown cannot be forgotten.
After that horrible thing, and in the media, it was bad.
I mean, in the media, the Republicans were jackasses.
They were mean-spirited, extremists, racist, sexist, bigot, homophobes.
They were the worst scum of the earth.
And after the budget shutdown, they won two seats in the Senate.
They picked up two seats in 1996, presidential election year, victory for Clinton.
And they only lost five or seven seats in the House.
It was not huge.
Particularly president of the other party being victorious.
And it takes me to the Pat Buchanan piece.
History does repeat itself, does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
That's Mark Twain.
History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
According to Gallup, approval of the Republican Party has sunk 10 points in two weeks to 28%, an all-time low.
In the Wall Street Journal NBC poll, approval of the GOP has fallen to 24%.
In the campaign to persuade America of their big lie, that the House Republicans shut down the government, the White House and its media chorus appear to have won this round.
Yet the truth is, the Republican House has voted three times to keep open and to fund every agency, department, or program of the government except Obamacare.
And they voted to kill that monstrosity but once.
Republicans should refuse to raise the white flag and insist on an honorable avenue of retreat.
And if Harry Reid's Senate demands the Republicans end the sequester or be blamed for a debt default, the party should bring down the roof of the temple on everybody's head.
Do not give up the sequester is what he means.
And he says this is an honorable battle lost, not a war.
Why, after all, did the Republicans stand up?
Because they believe Obamacare is an abomination.
A new entitlement program this nation can't afford.
It's imposing increases in health care premiums on millions of Americans, disrupting doctor-patient relationships.
It's forcing businesses to cut workers back to 29 hours.
Even Democrat Senator Max Baucus has predicted a coming train wreck.
Now, if the Republican Party believes all that, what choice did the House have except to fight to defund or postpone it, even against all odds, and to tune out the whining of the we can't win Republican establishment.
And that's exactly what a few Republican leaders did, which is the point.
They believe Obamacare is bad.
They stood up and said so.
They did everything they could to defund it or delay it.
They fought against long odds, but they were making a crusade, a moral stance on this.
That's what they were elected to do.
Every Republican, practically every Republican, campaigned on the promise to do everything they could to get rid of this.
But only a few stepped up at the moment of truth.
And instead, the we can't win chorus of the Republican Party's carrying the day.
If the Republicans are paralyzed by polls that are produced by this skirmish, they should reread the history of the party and the movement to which they profess to belong.
In the early 60s, post-war right rose to challenge JFK with Barry Goldwater.
Events and actions conspired to put Goldwater in the worst hole of a Republican nominee in history.
Kennedy was murdered in Dallas one year before the election.
Goldwater glibly hinted that he would privatize Social Security, sell the TVA, and lob one in the men's room at the Kremlin.
After his defeat of Nelson Rockefeller in the California primary assured his nomination, Goldwater was 59 points behind LBJ.
And the story continues.
And sadly, I must interrupt myself.
Now, if you think you get mad when that happens, you have no clue what it's like for me to have to interrupt myself, particularly when I'm on a roll.
But I've got to.
We'll continue here, folks.
Just sit tight.
Okay, I'm going to finish the Buchanan piece so we get back to the top of the hour.
I'm going to get into lots of other stuff here.
Another devastating stack of Obamacare implementation news, which could be in a Republican arsenal that's used every day somewhere other than here, and your phone calls.
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