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July 29, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 29, 2013, Monday, Hour #2
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And greetings to you, music lovers, thrill seekers, conversationalists all across the fruited plain, Rush Limbaugh behind the golden EIB microphone here at 800-282-2882 and the email address ilrushbow at eibnet.com.
Okay, let's see.
We're going to start audio sound by number three.
We'll skip Obama.
Tired of hearing Obama grab sound by number 22.
This is number 20, 2.
This is a report CBS this morning, a portion of a report by correspondent Jeff Pegase.
Apparently, Hunter Mayhan was leading the Canadian Open yesterday, and he left.
He walked out of there.
You heard about this?
Do you approve?
She said she approves.
Hunter Mahan, I didn't know this till just now.
Hunter Mayhan walked off the golf course at the Canadian Open with a two-stroke lead to attend the birth of his daughter.
And we have here the CBS reporter.
You'll also hear Jaime Diaz of the Golf World magazine.
Here's their report.
And of course, the media report is filled with praise.
He literally walked away from a potential million-dollar prize and flew to Dallas to be with his wife for the birth of their first child, Zoe Olivia Mayhan.
He has yet to win this year, but by most accounts, was playing some of his best golf at the Canadian Open.
Golf World's Jaime Diaz believes the 31-year-old may have chalked up a bigger victory.
It's just a different priority now for children, and I think the reaction towards Hunter reflected that.
It was almost unanimous in his favor.
Professional athletes no longer have to live and die for the game.
There's a sense that these guys have lives too, and we're not going to have unsuccessful family lives for the sake of our performance in the athletic arena.
As for Mayhan, he tweeted that mom, Zoe, and golfer were all doing well.
Yeah, I'm such an old-fashioned guy.
Okay, anyway, there you go.
What was the, it's just a different priority now for children?
It is?
Is there a different priority for children in our culture now?
No, I'm being serious.
I'm not trying to be provocative.
I mean, the way that sounds sounds like these guys used to never really care about their kids, but that's all changed now.
It's a different bull crap.
Of course, guys changed diapers.
Don't, yes, they did.
Don't give me that.
Guys changed.
What are you talking about?
Guys didn't change diapers.
Of course they did.
And they took out the trash.
And all of this stuff is myths.
Of course they took out the trash.
They washed the car.
They fixed the roof.
They did all this stuff.
They mowed the lawn.
They did all this crap.
That's what I'm saying.
Bringing home a million bucks to support the family just not as important anymore.
Look, his decision, none of my business.
I'm reacting to the media story here.
Hunter Mayhan can do what he wants.
More power to him.
The way the media is reporting, what do you mean?
Different priority now for kids.
See, this feeds right into this feminist garbage that men never used to care about their kids until feminism came along.
And Bill Clinton revived the whole notion of men caring about their wives because the husbands didn't.
But Clinton came along, soccer mom and all that stuff.
And he cared about these women more than their own husbands did.
I mean, that was the story.
And now all of a sudden, men finally care about their kids.
What a crock.
Men never change diapers.
What the hell is that?
Men changed diapers.
They took out the trash.
They mowed the yard.
They fixed the roof.
They washed the car.
And they paid for all of it.
So now it's, you know, you leave a million bucks.
He'll make it up.
Some sponsor will come along and make that up.
That's what will happen.
So it'll end up okay for him.
Maybe you get a diaper endorsement.
Who knows?
But some sponsor will come along.
He'll make up what he didn't, what he didn't lose there.
I remember when this, in the modern era, this, if I'm right in my memory, the first occurrence of this, back in the late 80s or early 90s, there was an offensive lineman for the Houston Oilers, now the Tennessee Titans, who announced that he was not going to play on Sunday.
He was instead going to go to the hospital and be there for the birth of his baby.
And it was a road game week for the Oilers.
I think his name was David Williams, if I'm not mistaken.
I could be wrong about that, but I remember the incident, and I remember weighing in on it.
And my take on it back then was: I thought a guy's responsibility to his family was to earn a living.
And I didn't think it was a strike against a guy for not being at the birth of his child.
But with the modern era of feminism, that became a new reality.
If the guy wasn't there, he didn't care.
Now Leitz says, I was right, the lineman David Williams.
He had a lot of support, but the owner of the Houston Oilers, Bud Adams, docked him a paycheck.
He was fined for not showing up.
He had a contract to play.
He was healthy.
He wasn't on injured reserve anything.
And he chose not to show up.
And it was a huge, huge issue.
He was fined, I think, docked a paycheck or something like that.
It was a huge, huge issue.
That's just the trend.
What I don't like about, as I say, I don't want anybody calling Hunter Mayhan and telling him something I didn't say.
He can do whatever he wants.
What I don't like is the way the media reports this stuff.
Here, grab it again.
I've somehow put it in the, or you put it at the bottom of a stack.
But play the sound bite again.
He literally walked away from a potential million-dollar prize and flew to Dallas to be with his wife for the birth of their first child, Zoe Olivia Mayhem.
He has yet to win this year, but by most accounts was playing some of his best golf at the Canadian Open.
Golf World's Jaime Diaz believes the 31-year-old may have chalked up a bigger victory.
It's just a different priority now for children, and I think the reaction towards Hunter reflected that.
He was almost unanimous in his favor.
Professional athletes no longer have to live and die for the game.
There's a sense that these guys have lives too, and we're not going to have unsuccessful family lives for the sake of our performance in the athletic arena.
As for Mayhan, he tweeted that mom, Zoe, and golfer were all doing well.
See, my problem here is this whole thing, it's just a different priority now for children.
Incumbent there is the assumption that men never cared before about their kids.
And now, the definition of a guy caring about his kid is being at the birth.
That's it.
It's a new day.
Just a different priority now for children.
And I maintain to you that, look at their exceptions to everything.
They're bad actors everywhere.
But the idea that men in general didn't care about their kids, that took hold with feminism.
That's why this is such a story, because the assumption, remember the Time magazine cover?
They're shocked when they learn that men and women are actually born different.
Well, so did this take hold.
Men are brutes, they're predators, you can't trust them with their own kids.
And now they finally, finally are making their children the right priority.
And we're not going to have unsuccessful family lives for the sake of our performance.
So what did that mean?
That means staying and finishing the tournament and maybe winning it equals an unsuccessful family life.
That's my problem with this, as it always is, is with the media interpretation of this stuff, or the media portrayal of it.
And then you have to hear, well, men never change the diapers.
They always change the diapers.
Men always got up at three in the morning.
You couldn't help it.
The baby makes a racket.
Everybody wakes up.
So many of these silly popular misconceptions take hold as reality and they aren't.
All right.
I'm finished.
I'm off my high horse.
Let's take a break.
We'll come back and we'll get phone calls in after.
Am I right?
This whole notion, I'm just sick and tired of the way men in a blanket way have been portrayed as uncaring, insensitive bunch of boobs.
And it's been that way since the late 60s.
And now the left has certain tests that a guy has to pass in order to be a real guy.
And I'm sorry, tests are full of it.
They're bunko, and I don't accept it.
And we're back.
Great to have you here, Rush Limbaugh, the EIB network.
Look at this.
This story, I don't have the date, but this is in the last couple of years.
Headline: Wiener did laundry for Huma to help rebuild their normal family.
Newly released people interview excerpts reveal.
So the Wieners did a People magazine interview, and in the interview, they admitted that Wiener started doing the laundry for Huma in order to help rebuild their normal family.
So the definition of rebuilding a normal family is Wiener doing Huma's laundry.
Let me ask you a question: Do you think Wiener stopped sexting on the day his baby was born?
I'm just asking, since the whole thing has come up here, did Wiener stop sexting on the day his baby was born?
Okay, all right.
Maybe I let's go to Sean in New Bern, North Carolina.
Hi, Sean.
Great to have you on the program.
Appreciate it, Rush.
Megan, Navy Dittos to you.
Thank you, sir.
Talking about Hunter Mayhem, great golfer.
Love the guy.
I think you're missing a slight point, though.
It's kind of a big deal.
I agree with you 100% on everything, but the media is amazed by the value that he places on that child's life.
He would miss that million-dollar paycheck just to be with that baby.
Okay, so what you're saying is that from the media standpoint, this is a story of love over greed, right?
Pro-life over the opposite.
No, no.
No, no.
Are you thinking the media is upset with him for doing this?
Well, the media is ecstatic that he did this.
I agree, but amazed the fact that, like, that's why it's such a big deal to them.
You see, like, they agree with you.
I agree with you that they are ecstatic about it, and it's a feminist issue and whatnot.
However, they're also, it's such a big deal because they can't even believe it.
Holy smokes.
Why can't they believe it?
They can't believe it's amazing to them the value of that human life to Hunter that his child has that much value because, you know, life is.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
You're saying that as a bunch of leftists, the birth of a baby isn't as big a deal to them.
And yet here's a guy who would give up everything for the birth of his child and the left doesn't quite get it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Interesting thinking out there, Sean.
Appreciate it, Rush.
Interesting thinking.
I thought you meant that this was meant to be a story of love over greed, where he chose the baby over money, which the media would love that angle, though, see, because money is the root of all evil.
Greed.
Earning a paycheck to them is greed.
Yeah.
Working isn't nothing anymore, huh?
Working to earn a pay is greed.
So he chose love of his child over greed.
That's their angle here.
That's why the whole thing offends me, is that earning a living is greedy.
Earning a living is, but your take also interesting.
Yeah, I think I agree with you, too.
It's not that I disagree.
It's just the additional kind of below-the-surface issue of pro-life.
So that's my take.
I just, I think it's, look at it.
You know what's going to happen here?
I don't know Hunter Mayhem.
I know what's going to happen.
He's going to hear that I was ripping him, and he's going to be asked about it.
And I have not done that, and I want it perfectly understood.
I don't even know him.
I'm reacting to the way the media covered this, pure and simple.
And any of you know Hunter Mayhem that, know him, I want you to tell him this, because I know this is going to get mischaracterized.
Everything I do gets mischaracterized.
And the press loving this is, it's like everything else, folks.
It's rooted in politics.
There is a political interpretation of this.
They want it to look like they value something over greed and money, but this is to them, what Hunter Mayhan did is a way for them to advance their politics, their ideology.
Do not doubt me.
And I am consistent because anytime I see the left doing that, I call them on it.
Now, I am told that the Wiener laundry story is from today.
It's from the New York Post.
The reason why I thought it was an old story is because I have seen the videotape of Wiener with the dirty clothes under his arm going to the laundromat.
And then I have seen Weiner leaving the dry cleaners in Queens, where they live, and walking back home.
And this was after the first sexting episode.
That's why I thought this story is the date doesn't print out on these foolish things.
So I assumed that this was an old story or that Weiner, the story I told People magazine, was an old story.
Because I've seen it.
I have seen Weiner on videotape walk out of his apartment with a bag of dirty clothes, go into the laundromat.
They don't have a washer and dryer at their house was the story.
And the same thing with the dry cleaners.
And the story today is the New York Post is that in a People magazine interview, Weiner says he did the laundry for Huma to help rebuild their normal family.
You talk about a stereotype?
Here's Albert, San Jose, California.
Hi, Albert.
Glad you waited.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
I'm not sure you're aware, but I saw a movie over the weekend, and your book was actually in the movie.
It was the to-do list.
In the movie, the father was actually, he was a judge.
He was actually reading your book.
So I thought that was pretty interesting.
What's the movie?
The name of the movie is The Todo List.
The To-Do List?
Yeah.
That's a current movie.
Yeah, it just came out over the weekend.
It's not a really good movie, but it has nothing to do with your book not being a good movie.
So the judge in the book is reading one of my, in the movie, is reading one of my books.
He's reading your first book, right?
The way things ought to be.
Yeah, that's that in 1993.
Book is in 1993.
So, anyway, I just wanted to mention that too if you hadn't heard it.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate that.
Well, my question is.
I'll get a bootleg copy of the movie.
Check it out.
My question was: something partly you talked about earlier today, and you talked about on Friday, is, you know, Tom Copern over the weekend was pretty critical of Mike Lee's defunding Obamacare, saying it's going to destroy the Republican Party.
And you talked earlier about polls.
I guess that's where the Republicans are thinking that it would destroy the Republican Party.
So my question is, maybe you can answer it, is if the Republicans do pursue defunding Obamacare, I'm not sure how that would destroy the Republican Party in the fact that they're also pursuing immigration reform, and clearly that would destroy the Republican Party.
So how do you differentiate the two?
Because either one of the faith is going to be destroyed.
Let me answer this this way.
Have you heard all of your life that America must reduce its dependence on foreign oil, particularly that from the Middle East?
Yes.
Right.
So we got a chance to do that, don't we?
And guess who's not doing it?
The United States.
It's not just Obama, but Obama's not going along with the Keystone Pipeline, but America, the Democrats are also opposing fracking.
Wherever fracking happens, if we would authorize fracking, we could put the Middle East out of business.
We wouldn't need their oil.
For 25, 30, 40 years, all I've heard is we've got to reduce our dependence on foreign.
Now we've got a way to do it, and we won't.
Well, it's the same thing here.
They say one thing that they don't really mean, and then when the chance to do it comes up, they cave.
Back in a second.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
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Okay, the call from San Jose, California, Albert, the movie, The To-Do List, is about a girl who feels pressured to become more sexually experienced before she goes to college.
So she makes a list of things to accomplish before hitting campus.
It's rated R.
Now, I just, I just, I did not know that the judge character is reading my book in the movie.
As I say, I'll get a copy.
I'll check it out.
And I'll have a report as soon as I figure out what it's all about.
But I'm telling you, I have seen video and I've seen, I just had somebody send me the still shots of Weiner with the laundry under his arm.
And now the People Magazine excerpt, New York Post today, but yeah, we want to normalize family relations, so Weiner started doing Huma's Laundry.
I'm also told that the Wieners have moved out of their little walk-up in Queens and are now living in a $3.3 million apartment on Park Avenue, supposedly with no rent being charged.
The apartment belongs to a longtime friend of the Clintons, Jack Rosen.
So the Wieners have moved up from Queens to Park Avenue.
$3.3 million paying anything.
It's just typical of the way those people operate, the way they're taken care of, and so forth.
Let me go back to the phones.
Rick and Fort Collins, Colorado.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Thank you.
I think there's a very important meeting happening today in the White House, and I think it centers around the fact that Hillary cannot succeed in 2016 unless Obama's second term is a failure.
I have seen in the media lots of little comments over the past few months about how Obama's messing up.
Obama's doing wrong.
He's worse than Bush with NSA eavesdropping, wiretapping, et cetera.
And recently, Chris Matthews has talked about what a great president Hillary would be.
And Harry Reid actually said Hillary would probably be a better president than Obama.
Well, look, this is all just them setting the table for what they think they really owe her.
Yes, they do.
The Democrats really owe her.
It was hers in 2008 until the black guy came along, and then they just, they had no choice.
They swooned over Obama because of his speech, and they threw her overboard.
They threw her under the bus.
Yes.
For a skinny, young, inexperienced, compared to her, hadn't done anything, Obama, and she couldn't say anything about it.
Clinton went so far as to say that they were throwing the race card at him.
So now it's hers by default in 2016.
And of course, you've got these Democrats setting the table for her.
Oh, she'd be much better than Obama.
They don't mean any of that.
They're just setting this up.
But you've got two egos budding heads here that are just enormous.
Obama wants to succeed.
He wants to win back the House and push every bill he wants through.
Hillary knows the number one rule of show business is you never follow a bigger act.
If he succeeds with everything, if Obama gets everything he wants, Hillary is worthless, useless.
She has nothing to do.
She has to sabotage some of his efforts so that she can come in and fix the things that the poor young, starry-eyed, immature man was unable to accomplish.
Okay, so what is the meeting at the White House about?
Is this where Hillary is?
It's very interesting.
I'm not sure that Obama called the meeting.
Hillary may have called the meeting.
Okay, so Hillary calls me and says, look, dude, you're going to have to start screwing up in the last two years.
Or at least give her some bones here to work with.
Why?
What does he care?
He doesn't care at all except that she can destroy the media myth that's been created about him.
She has enough connections in the media to tarnish his image.
No, no, no.
If that were the case, she would have beat him in 2007 or 2008.
I don't think so because I think a lot of her people accepted the fact that Obama was in, but then they got let down by what he did and how he treated her.
And, for example, how he treats women in general, the fact that a lot of his staff are underpaid when you compare White House appointments in the inner circle of Obama, the women are paid less than men.
This is true.
All of what you say is true.
So I think that there are internecine or internecine battles within the Democrat Party that we don't see because they always put forth a united front.
The media helps out with that.
I know what you're saying, that behind the scenes, Hillary doesn't like Obama, vice versa.
And that Hillary's got to do what she can to sort of sabotage Obama if she's going to look.
I understand all of that.
But this lunch meeting, all this is a lunch meeting.
You think Hillary's up there actually, okay, look, I need to sabotage you for the past two years.
You're going to have to fail if I'm going to have a chance at winning.
And then Obama's going to say, well, okay, cool.
I'll tell you what, I'll screw up so that you can win.
You think it's going to happen that way?
I don't think he cares a whit about the Clintons.
I think he might be telling her to back off and to stop it and that she's already inherited it.
Back off and stop what?
All these little behind-the-scenes attacks, the little things about her being a better president than him.
I don't.
Frank, I had not even seen any of those.
I think that she thinks she's a shoo-in anyway.
I don't think she thinks she has to do any of this stuff to win, at least to get the Democrat nomination, and that's what we're talking about here.
Because I guarantee you, they don't think the Republicans are going to beat them in 2016.
That's where they're always short-sighted and overconfident.
But nevertheless, you believe that all of these little jibes about Hillary being better than Obama are planned and that they really tick Obama off.
They really bother him.
And so now there's a lunch there, and there's animosity building.
And what does that mean for the country, Rick, as you analyze this further?
Only thing better than a do-nothing Congress is a Congress that undoes the things they've done.
So if it keeps him from pushing his agenda forward, good for us.
If they're divided over who is going to get credit for what they deem are successes, then they might fight over it and delay it.
And that's good.
Well, we'll have to keep a sharp eye.
I think that all that's on Hillary's mind right now is right in the news.
It's right here.
I believe every word of these stories that the Clintons are ticked at the wieners.
I believe every word of it.
This does not make Hillary look presidential.
The wieners are a joke.
And as they are compared to the Clintons, what the Clintons don't get is that outside the Democrat Party, they are a joke.
Inside the Democrat Party, they are rock stars.
Bill Clinton is it.
But outside the Democrat Party out there in the Hill, the thrill is gone, so to speak.
B.B. King, 1969, 73, whatever it was.
The thrill's gone.
And I just my instincts.
I don't sense this ground swell throughout the country for Hillary.
Now, the people that are upset that Hillary got the shaft in the campaign of 08, yeah, the Democrats, some excitement.
Yeah, but we'll see.
Time will tell.
I actually had not attached any meaning at all to this lunch other than Hillary wants a distraction from the Weiner story because that's what is not making her look presidential.
She's looking like a joke.
And so's Bill.
As they continue to be compared to Weiner and Huma.
Okay, I got to take a break.
Rick, I appreciate the call.
It may have a lot of people agree with it.
We'll find out.
Don't go away.
Jacksonville, Florida.
And Mike, great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, I'm confused right now.
Either you and Hannity are totally off base or Karl Rove and Byron York are totally off base because they say only a very small percentage of the Obamacare's funding is discretionary spending.
The vast majority of it is mandatory written into the law.
Can't be defunded unless Obamacare is repealed.
And we know that's not going to happen.
So what am I missing?
Well, I'm not sure who's right in this is the point.
See, what I'm looking at beyond the specifics here is a progression of things, Mike.
As I mentioned earlier, when Obamacare was passed, there was all this repeal energy.
And all these Republicans assured all their voters that that's what they were going to do.
And Romney said it was the first thing he was going to do if he was elected.
Well, he wasn't, so that's down the tubes.
Then the Supreme Court renders their decision.
The Republicans, once again, they rev everybody up, all their voters.
They tell them that they're going to repeal it.
And they're going to make it happen.
They're going to work hard.
The American people don't want it.
The polling data continues to show that an increasing number of Americans don't want this, including now union members that voted for Obama.
There's a rising chorus of opposition to it.
I understand that.
But now the fight's gone from the Republicans.
It's absolutely gone.
And that's what puzzles me.
Well, can I lay out a scenario for you, Dora?
Sure, lay it out.
Lay out all you want.
Okay, here's the deal.
They defund the small percentage that is discretionary.
The rest of it goes into effect.
It's a disaster, as we all know it's going to be, and that opens the door wide open to the Democrats to say, see, see, you Republicans didn't want to go along with it, and that's why it's failing.
And then blame it on them.
Blame the whole thing on them.
You know, I'm worn out on that.
I've been doing this for 25 years behind this market for 25 years.
And every Republican strategy to not do something is the Republicans are going to blame us.
Well, they do anyway.
The Democrats are Democrats.
Democrats are going to blame them no matter what they do.
Every failure that happens is going to get blamed on the Republicans, even if they do nothing.
Even if they agree with the Democrats, they're going to get blamed.
We're not going to be able to stop that.
Well, how can they get blamed for Obamacare when not one of them voted for it?
Well, how can they get blamed for all the stuff they already do get blamed for?
They get blamed for hating Hispanics.
They get blamed for a war on women.
They get blamed for all kinds of crap that they don't do, and it sticks.
Well, I think this is the one thing, and I hate to say it, but my take on it is, hey, wash your hands of it.
Okay, fine.
Supreme Court, you said it's okay.
Democrats, you voted for it.
It's yours.
And let them own it.
Yeah, that's just like 92.
Let's let Clinton win.
Let's show everybody how rotten the Democrats' policies are.
Let's let Obama win.
This is going to take years for this to implode.
I don't disagree with the people who say it's going to implode, but it isn't going to happen in two years.
It's not going to implode in three or four.
The best chance is to let it stay, don't risk losing the House, and then go all out for the Senate and the White House in 16.
And to repeal it or to go through the effort to fight the continuing resolution and maybe shut down the government would be to risk losing the House.
Is that what you think?
That's what a lot of people who are smarter than me think.
You say that I'm going to bind here.
You say that they're smarter than you are, but what are they winning?
Well, Rush, I just don't think the math is there to fight this fight now.
According to these guys, such a small percentage is discretionary spending.
The vast majority of it, what the heck was it?
I had it right here.
The Medicare and exchanges and all.
That's the law.
Yeah.
So's Medicare and Medicaid.
So's Medicare and Medicaid, and they're both bankrupt and broke.
And how's that hurting the Democrats?
Well, they own these entitlements and they own the seasoned citizens.
We let them own all of this crap, and they win big, and we still get ripped for not caring about people, not loving people, not liking people.
I just, I can only go by my gut, Rush, which says the tide is turning and the momentum is maybe going to get killed if they do this now because it's not even going to affect it any, and it opens the door.
It just, that just, to me, it doesn't matter.
What are you thinking?
Are you thinking that, okay, we stand aside, let Obamacare be fully implemented.
Don't even fight it, and then we'll win the Senate.
We'll keep the House and win the White House because people are going to be so mad.
Yes, and then we can repeal it.
And according to these guys, that's the only way you can defund it anyhow, really, to any significant level.
Wait, you just said you couldn't.
No, only if they repeal Obamacare, which means we've got to have the White House, obviously.
But see, that ain't going to happen because we're going to go all in for amnesty.
No, no, no.
I hope you're wrong.
I don't see them doing it.
I'm just telling you, thinking like yours is why we're losing.
You could be right, but Rush.
I mean, the evidence is not even an opinion.
It's there.
Maybe not in this particular scenario, Rush.
Because what good does it do to defund, according to Rove and Byron York, less than probably 10%?
It's not about that just.
It's about making the case for who we are.
Mike, it's about making the case for what they are.
You talk about the future.
It's about drawing the contrast between who we are, what they are.
It's about willing to tell the American people what's going to happen because of what the Democrats have done, what's going to happen to the economy, and has happened because of what the Democrats have done.
Our party isn't doing this.
Our party is caving.
But, Rush, we told them Obamacare was going to be a disaster, and these people, Rush, are not going to see it until it hits them upside the head like with a frying pan.
That's our only hope here.
I hate to say it because people are that stupid.
You know what?
I hope the sun goes out so we find out how terrible it is.
By the way, folks, this worry about the government shutdown destroying the Republican Party, I spent a lot of time on this on Friday, and it is a myth that the government shutdown destroyed the Republican Party in 1995.
It did not.
We won two Senate seats in the 96 mid-elections.
We did not lose seats in the Senate after the 95 budget shutdown.
We lost, I think, nine in the House, which is standard operating procedure, but we didn't lose 20 or 30.
We also set the stage for welfare reform and a number of substantive policy things.
The government shutdown of 1995 was not a Republican debacle, but the media says it was.
And so everybody scared to death and totally preoccupied with what the media says about them thinks it was a debacle.
But in the real world, it was not a debacle.
And that's my problem.
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