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July 9, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 9, 2013, Tuesday, Hour #2
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Great to have you here.
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Here is okay, we got uh that that was a Wall Street Journal story.
Here's the Daily Caller story on Obama's road trip to uh push immigration, and here's the pull quote.
This is probably the best pull quote in the story.
He will also try to convince reticent Republican lawmakers that the Republicans' viability as a national party with aspirations of winning back the White House is linked to the fate of the bill.
Now this cuts to something that that I've never understood.
And by the way, I don't believe it.
I don't believe Barack Obama wants the Republicans to win the White House again.
I think everything about Barack Obama is eliminating the opposition.
In fact, I don't think it I know it.
It has been Obama's modus operandi from the first day he got into politics.
And maybe prior to that, eliminate the opposition.
You know, I hear all of these Democrats warning the Republicans, you know, you guys, if you don't get right on this immigration bill, you're never gonna win the White House again.
Because the Hispanic can hate your guts.
Also, the we are to believe that Democrats want to share power with the Democrats are interested in us remaining a viable opponent.
And Democrats really do care that we're going to win the White House against them.
They really do want to share some of their voters with us.
Well, why don't they ever say this about, say, women?
Uh why don't they ever say this about African Americans?
Why don't they ever say, you know, you guys, you better go along with this uh whatever it is on abortion, or whatever it is on a war on women, or you're never gonna win the White House again.
Now the sad thing about this is that there are some Republicans who fall for this, or appear to uh fall for this.
So we are to believe that Barack Obama is so noble that he intends to save the Republican Party despite itself.
Now, Cynic might say that the Democrats simply sending out their biggest liar to once again spread the big lie.
But Obama is going on the road and he is going out to sell the immigration bill.
And the immigration bill, the gang of eight bill, uh I don't I don't want to be overly dramatic, but it is hanging by a thread in this in the House because if that bill is brought up for a vote, there are, from what I'm told, 20 to 30 Republicans who would vote for it, along with all the Democrats, which would make it close.
And the 20 to 30 Republicans who are tempted to vote for it are the type who fear and believe all this Rasmataz that the Hispanics are gonna hate their guts if they don't stand for amnesty and support it, and they don't want that said about them during campaigns.
I look at all this, folks, it just defies common sense.
Every bit of this, this whole...I remember talking to Senator Rubio on this program.
One of the first times I interviewed him about immigration as a subject, and the Gang of Eight Bill specifically, and I asked him a number of times, "Why are we doing this?
Why are we...
Just because the Democrats say that we must and they want this, why do we have to respond with an alternative?
He said, Well, we have to have an alternative.
Why?
Why can't we just say no?
You guys don't get everything you want.
Well, we can't be the party of no.
Why not?
They already say we're the party of no.
What's wrong with saying no in this case?
Saying no in this case, it'd be pretty pretty wise.
But why are we doing this?
Well, we're we're we're told now that we've got 11 million here.
The things we're being told now, by the way, defy common sense.
Or the action that we're being urged to take defies common sense.
So there are 11 million illegals here.
And we got to find out who they are.
We got to find out who we who they are, and we've got to register them and we got to collect fine money from them, and we got to do it so that we know what we're dealing with so we can start securing the border.
We gotta know who's here.
We gotta bring them out of the shadows.
Now there's an assumption here that isn't correct, and the assumption is that once we do this, that all of them that are currently so-called in the shadows are gonna come forward and say, here we are, or here I am, and here's my fine, and do with me as you will, but I want to be on a pathway to citizenship.
Not all of them are, not all of them are gonna trust it.
They're not all gonna come forward.
In the meantime, nothing's gonna happen the border.
We're not gonna be shutting down continual influx of people crossing the border illegally.
So why are we doing this?
Why are we doing anything?
And we hear, well, the immigration system is broken, Rush.
Really, what's broken about it?
Do we not have enough law already on the books to deal with whatever problems we have in immigration that we're just not enforcing?
What's broken about it?
Really?
What's broken about the immigration?
What's broken is we're not enforcing the law we already have.
There's so many things about this that we're just asked to accept on the basis of assumption that I think it's time we put up a stoppage of wait, wait a minute, why?
What's broken about our system?
Why do we have to do something drastic?
What is the emergency?
And then we find out the emergency purely political.
The emergency from the standpoint of those pushing action is purely political.
Are they really worried about the border?
No.
Are they really worried about the fate of the country with all this?
Obviously not.
Their concerns are political.
In some cases, they are financial, which would mean business related.
But what's the crisis?
Everything that the Democrat Party wants is elevated to crisis status.
And then everything proceeds from there.
We have to fix it.
It's a crisis.
It's going to consume us.
It's going to destroy us.
Whatever is said to get the general population ginned up.
And also believing that we have a crisis.
That Wall Street Journal story that I mentioned in the previous hour about Obama hitting the road to sell this.
That story in the Wall Street Journal also says this.
In his travels, Mr. Obama will need to calibrate his message so as not to drive off potential Republican votes.
Republicans warn that Mr. Obama could damage the Bill's chances if he paints Republicans as heartless obstructionists, determined to keep undocumented immigrants in illegal limbo.
Oh, really, you realize what a laugh that is.
Obama has been calling Republicans racists and bigots and heartless and extremists and all that for five years.
If anything, Obama's gonna go out and ratchet up that rhetoric.
What?
This kind of stuff insults my intelligence.
Obama will need to calibrate his message so as not to drive off potential Republican votes.
The Republicans are warning Mr. Obama that he will damage the bill's chances if he paints Republicans as heartless obstruction.
What the hell has he not been doing in this regard?
He's been doing exactly that and much more.
Yeah, we need to get those 11 million people out of the shadows and into the voting booth.
And we need to get them into the Voting booth now because for some reason the Democrat Party feels threatened.
The Democrat Party is what apparently is in crisis.
The Democrat Party is the people it needs.
Those 11 million people have come out of the shadows.
What is the hurry anyway?
We're told the border is secure.
Look at what we're told.
We're told the border's secure.
We're told that immigration is a net zero now.
Because there are as many people leaving as there are arriving.
So there is no net increase in illegal immigration.
People aren't coming.
The people who are coming are fat slobs, according to New York Daily News, which means they're just going to put more pressure on the health care system.
Why can't we put this stuff off until the midterm elections?
Till after them.
And so after and see, we can't do we gotta we gotta get this done before the midterms because this is all about the midterms.
This is all about the next election.
So Obama's planning this road trip to push immigration.
He's gonna try to convince Republicans that their viability as a national party with aspirations of winning back the White House is linked to the fate of this bill.
Who in the world up there believes this?
Obviously there's some Republicans who do because they repeat this.
Republicans, elected Republicans, trying to sell us on it, warn us that if we don't do this, we're never gonna win elections.
We've been through all this.
The Hispanic turnout 2012, 7.8%.
And Romney got 27% of it.
If Romney hadn't had got 70% of the Hispanic vote in 2012, he still would have lost.
This is a scam that's being perpetrated, and it's of the same variety, same nature as the scam that's run on the Republicans, which says don't criticize Obama, don't disagree, the independents don't like that.
The independents don't like the yelling and the screaming, just like the 24-year-old women don't.
They don't like this yelling and screaming and don't like partisanship.
They want people to work together and get along.
So the first moment that there is strident Republican criticism of Obama, we are told that the independents who despise partisanship run in droves back to the Democrat Party, which is the most vitriolic, extreme, profane party going in terms of what they say about their opponents.
So the Democrats can get away with calling us any name they want, and the independents don't care.
The Democrats can be as partisan and divisive and mean-spirited as they want, and it doesn't bother the independents.
If one Republican or one talk show host is critical of Obama at all, the Independents don't like that.
And they will leave, and they will go support the Democrats.
It's the same thing as...
You know, Paul Adine utters the N-word 30 years ago and loses 12.5 million dollars in a TV show.
Alec Baldwin can threaten reporters with physical violence, gays with physical violence every day, and hold on to his corporate sponsors.
The thing that continues to puzzle me here is that the Republicans fall for all of this.
You know, here another interesting little stat.
Andrew Stiles, national review.
A majority of Hispanic voters think that legal status to illegal immigrants should be granted only after a goal of stopping 90% of future illegal immigrants has been achieved.
This is from Republican polster John McLaughlin.
And what this basically says is 60% of Hispanics are in favor of enforcement first.
Secure the border and be able to prove that you are stopping 90% of the illegals trying to get in before granting amnesty.
So what are we to make of this?
This is a now granted a Republican pulser, but he's proven to be a fair, accurate, and a good pollster.
Now we're told that we better sign up for this real quick.
We better sign up for amnesty.
We better not oppose it, because we're never gonna win the White House because Hispanics are never going to vote for us.
And yet right here we've got a 60% of Hispanics want the border secured first.
It seems to me that a majority of Hispanics would be willing to vote for Republicans if they oppose the gang of eight bill, according to McLaughlin's poll.
The margin is 60% to 34%.
Registered Hispanic voters said they supported granting legal status to illegals only after that 90% goal is achieved.
Hispanic adults backed the proposal by nearly an identical margin, 60% to 32%.
And by the way, that's the Cornyn Amendment, which was defeated, the John Cornyn Amendment, which demanded that we be able to prove and confirm that 90% of those attempting to cross had been apprehended and prevented.
And not until then could we open the pathway to citizenship and turn on the lights in the shadows.
And sixty percent of Hispanics apparently agree with this.
So the Democrat Party and cheap labor business interests are running the agenda on this.
They are running the show.
And now Obama's out there trying to sell Republicans on this by telling them if you guys ever want to win the White House again like me.
As though that's what he's really interested in.
All right, and as I promised, you get back to the phone, so we're doing well, I haven't gotten back, we haven't gotten there yet, but we're now getting there, and it's Tom River, New Jersey.
This is Dennis, and I'm I'm glad you waited, sir.
Hi.
Yes, Russ.
Uh on the Mexican 70% of Mexico 70% illegal already here.
Hey, Dennis, Dennis, we we we can't under are you you're obviously on the cell phone.
We cannot understand what you're uh what you're saying.
Give it to try again a little slower.
Okay.
The illegal immigrants, OP illegal immigrants that are here are coming here.
I was wondering how that is going to affect uh Obamacare.
And the added cost when these people come here to get treated for their diseases, heart diseases.
Well, I I I think now in the case of, I'm just guessing now, I'm just guessing.
But I think in the in the case of immigrant obese people, there'll be a lot of sympathy.
They come from poor nations.
They come from nations their governments aren't that concerned about nutrition.
I don't think that Michelle Obama and the and the food Nazis would be nearly as condemning of uh of immigrant uh uh obese people as they are of Native Americans.
There'd be more understanding, there'd be more compassion, uh, and there would probably be more federal aid to help them.
Um whereas uh Mikhail Bloomberg and and Muchel Obama demand of Americans that we eat a certain way, there would be no demands on the illegals.
We don't want to make them mad.
Uh there would be efforts to understand them.
Uh they wouldn't be immediately made victims where we are supposed to feel uh sorry for them.
But but Dennis, don't worry, they're gonna have ten years to lose weight.
Remember, they're not gonna get Obamacare for ten years.
That's what the law says.
They they didn't they're what?
Right.
That's what the law says today, that they won't have access to Obamacare for uh not even telling it's like 14 years.
Or maybe they have to vote.
But that's today.
Obama could change his mind tomorrow.
And Obama can just say, you know what?
I don't like this notion that these people have to lay have to wait a decade to be able to vote.
So I'm gonna say they can vote tomorrow.
We're gonna, in fact, we're gonna start our voter registration tonight at McDonald's.
And Burger King.
And Kentucky Friday.
And Wendy's.
Taco Bell.
All of those places voter.
Well, he if he can just decide to punt the employer mandate, why can't he decide to grant them the right to vote?
We sit here and laugh about this.
That's actually very serious stuff.
And I guarantee you, if a Republican president were trying this stuff with Democrat legislation, you wouldn't hear the end of it.
All these howls and protests about shredding the Constitution, violating the Constitution, but there isn't any of that with Obama, not even from very many Republicans.
Instead, we get these intellectual analyses of what it means constitutionally and what might happen if we do this and do that and so forth.
It's just amazing.
Anyway, I appreciate the call.
We've got to take a brief time out.
We'll be back much more straight ahead after this.
And let's go back to the audio sound bites.
This is interesting.
This was last night on the Fox News channel on the record with Greta Van Susteren, who, by the way, just so you people know, Greta Van Susteren sent me a note and said, any time you want to come on, if you want to talk about the Republican Party and the state of immigration, you're what?
Number seven.
Shh.
I was getting to that.
Anyway, as I was saying before I was interrupted on the IFB, which you people can't do, this is why they don't have microphones.
Just just so you know that the the this whole drummed up thing with Fox and me, that all the media reporting on it, I'm encouraging people to it.
It's all BS.
Greta Van Sustran send me a note saying anytime you want to come on my show and talk about whatever you want, feel free.
So there's no Fox News policy that says limbaugh can't come on here and talk about immigration.
I don't know what happened on their morning show.
It was down to the wire on the airtime for the segment or whatever, but it doesn't matter.
There's uh just wanted to let you know that there's no problem.
And the point is that Greta, just to illustrate this, she had as her guest Phil Gingri, the uh Congressman from Georgia last night, and she played a soundbite of me.
She played a clip of me yesterday talking about why Obamacare isn't going away, and what all of this is really about in terms of Obama going out and and and um campaigning for it.
And I've I've I've made that there are two things going on with this.
Obamacare is the law of the land, right?
So why is he out doing campaign appearances for it?
Why is he out running ads for it?
Why is he out trying to gin up support?
It's already the law of the land.
Well, there are two things.
It's the midterm elections in 2014.
Remember what happened to him in 2010.
They got shellac to Democrats, and that was a huge defeat.
They lost nationwide over 600 seats.
It was massive.
It's never reported how massive a defeat that was.
And it sent chills up their spines.
It was the Tea Party midterms, and they think that it was Obamacare that caused the Tea Party to come to life and become this massive force that voted.
Nobody expected that to happen.
Well, here come another set of midterms.
So Obama's out campaigning to try to prevent the same kind of thing happening.
And there's a second reason.
He delayed the employer mandate by one year.
So I told you yesterday there were two things that happened last week.
On Tuesday of last week, they canceled the employer mandate.
But on Friday, when nobody was listening, when nobody was paying attention the day after the 4th of July, they released a 600-page document, 606 to be precise.
And it was that document that basically said you're on the honor system.
Since the employer mandate has been delayed, you can go to an exchange and you can say you qualify for the subsidy and get a subsidized insurance policy paid for by your taxpayer buddies and get it simply because you say you qualified.
There isn't going to be a database to disprove you.
But they made it official anyway.
So it wasn't last week.
It wasn't just about the employer mandate.
There were three other delays that happened on Friday.
Okay.
And here they are again.
State run marketplaces will not have to verify consumers' claims that they don't get health insurance and their employer.
The exchanges.
Now I I hit this hard yesterday, but I want to do it again because it's it's very important.
This happened on Friday, nobody was paying attention.
There is no verification.
You can show up at an exchange and claim that you don't have health insurance at your work, or that you qualify for a subsidized policy, and you get it simply because you say so.
There is no verification system.
The second thing that that is paramount in this 600 page document released last Friday, the federal government will scale back oversight of what applicants say they earn.
Now that's important because knowing a person's salary is crucial to Obamacare because a person's income determines what kind of tax subsidy they get in their policy, if they get any at all.
But because of what was released on Friday, the federal government's going to scale back all that oversight of what you say you're so now you can go in, you can lie about qualifying for a subsidy, and you can lie about how much you make, and you can end up basically having a policy given to you.
The reason for all of this is Obama wants as many people registered for health care in the exchanges as he can get.
Because that will cause the tentacles of this entitlement to be woven deeply into the fabric of society, making it nearly impossible to repeal it.
It's that simple.
The more people they get signing up, who cares how?
Who cares if they qualify?
Who cares about anything?
Just get them signed up.
Just get them on the insurance rolls provided by the state or the federal exchange, the more the better, because it's harder to repeal the entitlement.
This is this is a uh an effort being made by the regime to repel any repeal movement that the Republicans might someday get serious about.
The third thing that was prominent in this Friday document dump last week, electronic notices will not be required until 2015.
The document says that we recognize that states are at different places in the development of their eligibility and their enrollment systems.
Technology needs to be in place to offer beneficiaries and applicants the option to receive notices electronically.
Out of concern that the technology Won't be in place.
The federal government has decided to give states until 2015 to roll out these notices.
It would include notices of what tax subsidy, uh, for example, an individual applicant is eligible for.
So there the point is with that, there aren't going to be any categories or limits until 2015.
So what the regime has signaled, and believe me, all the people running these exchanges now know it.
What they have signaled basic anybody who walks in to an exchange or anybody who logs in via a web browser, you can also do it.
You don't have to go to the brick and mortar shop, the actual office.
You can do it online.
Anybody who shows up, however, gets a policy.
And they get a policy based on what they say.
So you can show up and lie about whether you're covered at work.
You can lie about how much you make.
You can lowball it.
You can say, I don't make very much money, and then you qualify for the big subsidy.
And then you do not have to depend on any notice being sent you telling you how you qualify, because there aren't going to be any of those till 2015, if then.
So basically what happened on Friday.
On Tuesday, they cancel the employer mandate.
On Friday, they open the doors to everybody said, Come on in.
We are giving away policies.
For all intents and purposes.
And the point here is twofold.
The 2014 midterms and also get as many people signed up as quickly as possible to make it harder to repeal this.
while this is going on Obama's out pitching immigration next Amnesty.
And telling Republicans, you know what, uh if you want your guys to ever win the White House again, you better support Amnesty.
I laugh when I hear people say it's all falling apart at Obama.
I laugh when I hear people say it's just it's Russia's imploding.
It's not at all, folks.
When the President of the United States can with impunity look at a portion of a law that he doesn't like and cancel it, how can it be said that he is in trouble?
How can it be said that he is imploding?
What's imploding is the Constitution.
What's imploding is the country as founded.
His administration isn't.
So with that, Greta played a clip of me to Phil Gingri, who is uh member Congress from Georgia last night.
This three sound by Tirk seven, eight, and nine are the numbers.
And here's the first.
The reason for what happened last week is to get as many people enrolled in Obamacare as possible, making it harder and harder to repeal it, because repealing it would mean taking away their insurance.
And that's why Obama's out there selling this thing like it's a campaign issue.
That and the 2014 midterms.
So I had to laugh at all these people who said, Well, I guess that's the end of Obamacare, Russia.
Why don't you Republicans just say repeal the whole thing?
Well, they should, by the way.
But what happened last week does not mean the end of Obamacare.
It just means Obama recognized it was in trouble and has taken steps to ensure it'll never be taken away, no matter how bad it is.
And Greta then said, okay, the delay in the employer mandate, you've written a letter, Congressman to Treasury Secretary and the Health and Human Her Services Secretary wanting to know more about this.
What do you want to know?
Well, we want to know what they knew and when they knew it and who they talked to.
We want to know uh emails.
We want to want to find out exactly uh who talked them into this one-year delay, Greta.
Was it just small business people or call me cynic?
Was it possibly some uh Democratic senators who are up for a le uh reelection in 2014?
Well, clearly that was part of this too.
I mean, there's no question that this is an albatrust.
Nobody wants this.
The vast majority of Americans do not want, they do not support Obamacare.
And the regime is trying to insulate Democrat senators.
There's a there's a weird story yesterday, and there's one today, Michael Barone, about how the Republicans could win the Senate and end up with a 5248 uh uh majority.
He lays it out.
So it is something the Democrats and Obama are thinking about.
So you take this thing off the table and it takes away a campaign issue for Republicans.
So Gingri is uh is right about that.
So Greta said uh well, has the administration ever led you to believe that they would be ready by January first for this particular mandate requirement for employers?
Well, Greta, they've had uh what, three and a f uh and a quarter years to get ready to do it.
I'm trying to figure out whether it's just such such a huge job, whether they can't carry through in their promises, or whether it's politically sinister to get past those 2014 um elections.
I'm trying to figure out it could be either.
And and you know, you just had that that clip uh from Rush, and I'm a rush listener, and he always gives you a little something uh extra to think about, and and it's very possible that that's true.
But look, I've got this uh uh sheet here in front of me that says Obama cares dirty dozen implementation failures.
So it's not just this one.
It's one failure after another.
That's the Heritage Foundation morning bell document.
We shared that with you yesterday, he's holding that, and the Heritage Foundation published thirteen implementation delays or failures already with the regime.
Now, Gingri was saying in the beginning, he wants to know how did this happen.
Was it an arbitrary Obama decision, or did somebody go to him and complain?
And it's probably a combination of a whole lot of things.
But the bottom line is that Obama is the one that pulled a string.
Pulled the plug, pulled a lever, whatever.
It's Obama who's decided for probably a multitude of reasons.
Uh the bottom line is remember now what we were told this is such a wonderful bill.
This bill is utopia.
Lowers your premiums.
If you like your policy, you get to keep it.
You like your doctor, you get to keep your doctor, it's gonna lower the deficits, the most beautiful wonderful thing.
And we find now we can't implement it without it causing pure hell.
Implementing this thing would cause hell, disruption, tumult, chaos, and anger directed at those who are perceived to be responsible for it.
This thing never was what it was sold.
It was never was a panacea.
It never was a utopia.
It never was a solution to anything other than securing one-sixth of the U.S. economy for government control.
I'm gonna tell you so that there's one thing about this employer mandate, one thing that is crystal clear to me, and that is the private sector didn't know anything was in the works about it.
The private sector could not have known that the employer mandate was going to be delayed.
Well, if they would have known it was going to be delayed, they wouldn't have been laying people off all these years and months.
They wouldn't be converting people to part-time.
They didn't know this was coming.
So this idea that, you know, some of the big business leaned on Obama, they've probably been leaning on him forever.
This there's nothing to do with it.
They didn't know this was coming.
They didn't even suspect this was coming.
Had they suspected it was coming, they wouldn't have been converting all these people to part-time all these months.
Just just think of the money that businesses wasted trying to get ready to do everything they had to do legally to to to abide by the mandate.
Just think of all the money they spent.
Think of all the employees whose status has now been converted to part-time.
It turns out to be unnecessary.
Think of that.
Because of this.
So don't tell me that business knew, and don't tell me that they made it happen.
They had no clue it was coming.
Uh Larry in Albany, I want to grab you here quickly.
Great to have you on the program.
Hi.
Yes, yes.
Um you missed the vote on immigration.
Uh I think everybody's missed a vote on immigration.
The problem with immigration is not at the border.
It's in the heart and the soul and the very core of this country with the entitlement programs.
My goodness, we even call them entitlements.
Because as long as there are people that care have very little won't very little, and they have to do absolutely nothing for it.
Why should they work?
And when as long as those people will not work, why there are jobs for these guys to come up here and take.
Now, you know, folks, I happen to I I I have to tell you, I know this is going to appeal to a lot of people.
This what well Larry is saying, Rush, the people of this country ain't working anymore.
They won't work.
They're being paid not to.
They're eating, they're watching TV, they're using their phones, they're driving around.
Why work?
But there are businesses open that need people to work, and Americans won't do it.
It's not that there are jobs Americans won't do anymore.
It's that Americans just don't want to work.
The entitlement society is too big.
We had the numbers yesterday.
A hundred and one million adults in this country get federal assistance of some kind.
Larry, Larry, I tell you, that's a provocative thing you've said there.
We'll have to explore it when we get back.
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