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July 3, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 3, 2013, Wednesday, Hour #3
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Yeah, I saw that right before the show started.
It said that uh that Morsey was under house arrest over in Egypt.
But it was ABC, but nobody could confirm it.
And the drive-by started reporting that uh the military had uh succeeded in their coup.
And now they're saying that the U.S. can't confirm the coup in Egypt, only the coup here.
The coup in the United States can be, has been confirmed, but not the one in Egypt.
Now the one in Egypt, the military coup.
Uh junta military here it's not, it's a it's uh Democrat Party coup.
Anyway, great to have you back, folks, Rush Limbaugh, the EIB network, Limbaugh Institute, Advanced Conservative Studies.
This is great news.
You know, every year we do our Curathon for the blood cancers.
We do it in April every year, and we uh raise money to hopefully eliminate all the blood cancers, leukemia, myeloma.
And one of the things that we always tell people is that all of the research that is enabled by your donations every year has led to medical advances in areas outside the blood cancers.
And here is a classic example of it.
It's a Reuters story.
Couple of guys with HIV apparently have had it totally eliminated from their systems by virtue of bone marrow transplants, which is adult stem cells.
Once again, adult stem cell treatment, HIV seems to be gone after treating these two patients essentially for lymphoma.
Two men with HIV have been off-AIDS drugs for several months now after receiving stem cell transplants for cancer that appear to have cleared the virus from their bodies.
Both patients uh treated in Boston and had been on long-term drug therapy to control their HIV.
They received stem cell transplants after developing lymphoma, which is a type of blood cancer.
Using stem cell therapy is not seen as a viable option for widespread use since it's extremely expensive, but the latest cases could open new avenues for fighting HIV, which affects about 34 million people worldwide.
So basically it's a bone marrow transplant using treatments developed for lymphoma and stem cells, and they just thought they'd give it a shot.
And of course, HIV has nothing to do.
It's a virus, it's it's not it's not a cancer.
And yet this research has apparently eliminated HIV four months now from two patients' bodies.
So I just wanted to mention it to you because it is a it's a great example of the ancillary benefits that come from leukemia lymphoma research.
Now, folks, we mentioned a top of the hour and kind of let it go because other things came up.
This employee mandate that's been delayed, Obamacare.
I want to play you some audio sound bites from media members on this because it's instructive and it's also humorous, it's funny.
But at the same time, you know, I would be remiss if I didn't remind everybody that the Democrat Party and President Obama they've had dreams of national health care for 50 plus years, and they finally made it happen in 2010.
And remember it was sold as Nirvana.
Utopia, panacea, Pelosi, affordable health care for all Americans.
It was going to insure the uninsured.
It was going to lower everybody's premiums by $2,500.
If you like your doctor, keep him.
If you like your uh insurance, keep it.
You like your plan, keep it.
It's going to reduce the deficit.
It's going to reduce the national debt.
It's going to free up money for roads and bridges and school repair and all that.
I mean, it was just, it was the greatest thing in the world.
And yet, they really don't want to implement this thing because it's going to harm them.
The Democrat Party wants the granted.
How many waivers did their donors get?
And what was a waiver, an exemption?
You don't have to be bound by it, Obama said.
Now they're going to eliminate the employer mandate, which's got some ramifications for you too, because the personal mandate remains the law of the land.
So whereas employers are not going to be required to provide you insurance until 2015, after the 2014 elections, you still have to have it.
Your employer can now basically cancel.
He doesn't have to provide you insurance, folks.
If your employer wants out, if your employer wants to save a bunch of money, they can cancel health care plans.
The only thing that might prevent them is they have to compete for quality people.
And quality people, employees can demand decent benefits packages, and if the company A doesn't provide them, they may not be in the running.
So there will that there's that consideration.
But a lot of companies aren't going to care.
Here's a chance to offload these massively expensive health insurance plans.
Do that in a New York minute.
Where does that leave you?
You're still mandated to either pay a fine or to get coverage.
So if your employer doesn't provide it, where are you going to go?
You're going to go to an exchange.
That's where you're going to have to go.
And this element of this actually helps speed up one of Obama's preferred results here.
And that is more people depending on the government.
The more private sector avenues decline, I mean, the less opportunity there is for private sector health insurance, the better for Obama.
So if your employer offs his policy, fine with Obama.
You have to get it somewhere.
And your best option is going to be a government-run exchange.
So from that standpoint, it facilitates.
And also from that standpoint, it may mitigate what the media is calling a really brilliant political move.
Oh, yeah, this is going to spare Obama a bunch of negative feelings during the campaign for 2014.
Really?
How many people are going to be really ticked off if their companies do drop their health insurance coverage?
At that point, the limbaugh theorem is going to kick in, and the question is going to become how many people are going to blame Obama for it?
Because Obama did essentially on the Friday before a long weekend when they do the document, Dumpy did it yesterday.
He's not even in the country.
It's the 4th of July weekend.
How many people are going to know?
The first word they might get of it is when their employer cancels the policy.
And who are they going to be mad at?
Not Obama.
They're going to be mad at the business.
And Obama's going to look at salvation because there's the exchange to go out and get some coverage.
Even though Obama's the one mandating and causing all this to happen.
So it's unclear yet how this is all going to manifest itself vis-a-vis the Democrat Party and the 2014 elections.
On the surface, first glance, it would appear to be very damaging to Obama.
His health care plan is so bad it can't be implemented.
But how many people are going to know that?
How many people are going to look at it that way?
Don't forget the Limbaugh theorem.
Obama does not attach to his own plans, his own policies, including this one, even though it's called Obamacare.
Actually, it may not be true.
You know, in this case, that may be the one place the limbaugh theorem doesn't apply.
You look at the polling data, only 35% of the country supports Obamacare.
It is known as Obamacare, not the Affordable Care Act.
So it may well be that he is attached to this.
We'll just have to wait and see.
But But the bottom line here is this plan is so damaging.
This plan is so harmful that the party that put it into place cancels it so as not to be hurt at election time.
What are we even doing it for?
The Republican Party needs to make a vast, fast move here to repeal the whole thing.
The door's been opened for them again.
A golden opportunity has been presented to him.
The regime has canceled, has delayed a fundamental element of its own plan.
That door is wide open for the Republicans to run in there and say, see, they're admitting this thing is unworkable.
They're admitting it's no good.
We just need to get rid of the whole thing.
Whether they succeed or not, a little pushback.
Let the party identify with the vast majority of the American people on an issue.
And it's this one.
There are two major issues where the Republican Party could revive itself.
All they would have to do is align themselves with the majority thinking in this country.
One is Obamacare, the other is amnesty.
That's all they'd have to do.
But the Republican Party is more interested in being liked by and having the introductory doors to the Hispanic population opened than they are in being your party.
And when it comes to health care, who can explain it?
Other than to say they're all children of government.
They're all the childs of government.
They are all part of the ruling class.
They are all Washington.
And this is what Washington wants.
Let's go to the audio sound vice.
We'll start with John Harwood.
Last night, CNBC, the Cudlow Report.
Correspondent Harwood, this guy's been with the New York Times, he's been with uh Wall Street Journal, been everywhere.
And uh they're talking about Obama's decision to delay the employer mandate, and John Harwood said this.
The administration uh, in part, I think, hopes to get some benefit from delaying these penalties until after the 2014 elections.
They've been getting a lot of incoming from Republicans on the flip side, uh, so that's a positive for Democrats on the positive for Republicans, they're going to use this decision as evidence that the administration itself doesn't have confidence in the law and try to push harder against uh some of the things that they can affect.
All right, all right.
So there's Harwood.
So basically, he's uh he's covering his basis on both sides of it.
John Dickerson next.
And he's the political director at CBS News this morning on CBS News this morning, Charlie Rose speaking with uh with Dickerson, and Charlie said, John, what does this mean for health care reform?
And what does it say about the politics of health care?
Now, I maintain that Charlie knows what it means.
No, I take that back.
Here's uh he doesn't know.
That's why we're here's here here's what what Dickerson said.
As a political matter, this is not good.
It sort of contributes to the feeling that the Affordable Care Act is a jalopy, they're trying to roll out of the driveway here at barely uh operational uh for the president.
That's not good.
The problem for Democrats running is that they are already weighed down by the feelings people have about this bill and about the opposition from small business and from businesses of all kinds.
And though this delay um again takes the story from being a chronic ailment as it gets implemented, it doesn't really reduce the fact that in a lot of these states where Democrats are running, red states, this law is unpopular.
Why are we even doing this?
Does somebody well just one person in the media?
You're talking all around this.
This bill is a disaster.
You all know it.
But you're looking at it, gee, can we mitigate the disaster for Obama so it doesn't hurt him?
Can we mitigate this so it hurts the Republicans?
Can somebody just say, why are we doing it at all?
It's not too late.
Why are we doing this at all?
Listen to how it's described.
It's a jalopy, trying to roll it out of the driveway.
It's barely operational.
Democrats are being weighed down by the feelings people have.
Now why are we doing this?
I know you and I know the answer, but my point is.
Nobody wants this.
It's not good for the country.
It's good for somebody, and that's why we're doing it.
But it's not good for the country.
And what is becoming apparent, listening to all these media people, they all know it.
Anybody paying attention when you can't implement this thing because it might hurt the party at the polls, what does it say about it?
Especially versus how it was sold as nirvana, as utopia, as a panacea.
Last night on Hannity on Fox, uh a bunch of people were on there, including Joe Trippie.
He got a question.
How outrageous is it that individuals have to pay the mandate, but the employers don't.
Isn't that against everything you stand for, Joe?
He raised an important point.
The whole reason the employer mandate was there was so that those companies that do provide health care couldn't just dump their employees off of it.
I'm very interested in how the administration is going to answer that question.
Uh, because I do think you raise an important point.
And the important point is that there is no penalty now for dumping insurance plans companies, so they can just dump them.
They just offload them.
This is folks, I can't tell you what a panacea, you know, but panacea.
This is a red letter day for businesses.
I mean, for 25 years, I have been listening to businessmen complain, whine, moan, that they're not CEOs of their companies, they've had to become health care experts.
That their job, so much time of their job is devoted to making sure their employees have health care, that it's affordable, getting the best policy.
They hate it.
They one of one of the uh interim CEOs at General Motors said he got into the car business as he loved cars.
He didn't get into the car business because he loves health care.
But he had become a health care administrator.
So I'm just telling you, there are business after business after business after business who have hated what has happened to this.
It's an employee benefit that has become an albatross.
Well, here's a chance to get rid of it.
Without a penalty, folks.
And so Tripp is, yeah, I really wonder what's going to happen here now.
These companies uh float, I wonder um, you know what it's an important point.
Uh how the administration is going to answer that, because you still have your mandate to buy and have insurance.
Peter Orzog, the former uh director of OMB Office of Management and Budget was on CNBC's squawk box.
His question that he got, there have been people who have said that this will help the Democrats because whatever problems might have emerged as a result of implementing Obamacare will not be on the table for the midterms.
What are you thinking about that, Peter?
Obviously, by definition, the administration, I think, thought that it was beneficial, but substantively and I would imagine politically to delay or else they wouldn't have done it.
Substantively, if it's beneficial substantively to them not to do it, then why are we doing it in the first place?
And given that it's broadcasting, my guess is somebody is being lied to.
So...
Okay, back to the phones we go.
It is Chris in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
Great to have you on the program.
Hello.
Hi, and happy Independence Day Eve to you, Rush.
Thank you.
Thanks, Chris, very much.
Hey, welcome.
Hey, I was wondering if you would consider calling the winners of your two if by a tea contest uh live during your show.
And uh that way the rest of your your audience, your listeners could share in the excitement and joy of the That's intriguing.
Here's what we would have to do.
There is a uh uh regulation from the FCC.
Excuse me, which says that you cannot put somebody on the air without their permission.
So as contest rules, we'd have to change them and we would have to say, everybody entering, understand that if you win, you might be called live on the air.
And uh even then it's kind of dicey because then the second thing is we call with a blocked number because we don't want our number getting out there.
And a lot of people don't pick up block numbers, Chris.
They let them ring the voicemail.
And so I don't know how exciting it would be just to hear us leave the message on somebody's voicemail that they've won.
Now if we could guarantee that every winner would give us permission to put them on the air, and if we could guarantee that every winner would pick up the phone.
But we can't they wouldn't they're not gonna know it's us calling.
And if we call them in advance, say you've won, you're gonna get called sometime later today or tomorrow, be ready for it, then they're not gonna be spontaneously excited and the full effect of it you wouldn't hear.
But it's a great idea.
It's a it's uh it's a great thought.
Back in the old days when there weren't these kind of regulations, this is how radio contest winners were identified all the time.
They were called live on the air.
So the audience could share in the excitement of it and hear it.
Yeah, well, thanks for the uh explanation.
I'm just I'm glad you'd like to hear it.
I'm flattered it's something that you would find interesting.
Because it really I would venture to say, half the people do not believe that it is me and Catherine calling.
They think that they're being tricked.
And that's half the fun of it is is when they finally believe that it's real.
Here's Debbie in Portland, Oregon.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hello, Rush.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
My pleasure.
Great to have you here.
I would like to thank you first for your work with the lymphoma society.
My father is a lymphoma survivor, and due to the care and quality of care he received, he and my mother celebrated their 62nd wedding anniversary on Monday.
Oh, oh.
Sixty two years.
Sixty-two, and I am flub number three.
I can't imagine any happier than that.
I uh that's just unbelievable.
Right.
It it's it's it's been awesome.
But um and they're also still in California.
I'm a fifth generation Californian, so it's been painful for conservatives uh over the sixty-two years, I can guarantee you that.
Let me tell you something.
I lived out there in the in in in the mid-80s, and the Republican Party, it was still viable then.
It was still Republicans still mattered.
Republicans still elected senators, still elected governors.
Um and it uh you know, i I hate to say this, but it it almost the same time I left is when the doors the illegal immigration opened up in that state, and that the those two things happening at the same time immigration amnesty and me leaving, that was it.
Well, I lived it.
I lived it as a young girl.
I lived it as a college student when folks were going to college uh free ride and I was working my way because my folks made too much money for me to get a scholarship.
So uh Ben there done that.
But what I really called to tell you about are uh make sure that folks were aware on Obamacare on the individual mandate.
As a tax preparer, I have prepared tax returns for over thirty years, and I will guarantee you that people will not realize the individual cost of Obamacare until they get their taxes done for two thousand and fourteen, which won't be until January of two thousand fifteen.
This is a good point.
In in real life terms, yeah, politically they'll know what's coming, but the low information crowd that we're talking about, they're not gonna have any idea until 2015.
And and those that don't file income taxes may not really feel the full force of it in that way.
At some point everybody's gonna understand what a debacle it is, but by that time it's gonna be so the tentacles are gonna be so intricately woven in this web of deceit that untangling it is gonna be a mess.
Well, and that's the insidiousness of withholding, is is you can look at uh perfectly well educated successful people and tell them that the refund has gone down and they're mad at you as a preparer.
It's like, wait a minute, no, you know, this is not a free s free loan to the to the government, but a lot of them don't see that as their money.
So it it's been kind of interesting over the 30 years.
Uh the other thing that I I wanted to bring to your attention is you say nobody wants this.
Well, I can tell you my hairdresser here wants this.
Um my uh colleague wants this, she thinks her daughter's gonna get a free mammogram.
Yeah, I know.
I can't believe the look on the woman's face when I was getting my hair cut, I'm surprised to have any hair left when I told her that her premium was going to be at least what she's paying now, if not more.
Oh, it's gonna Yeah, you're you're you're right.
When I say everybody, uh every what I mean is the political class in Washington knows what a what a debacle this is.
The Democrats are admitting they don't want it implemented right now.
I you know, you're right.
I'm I'm giving people the wrong impression here when I say um uh nobody wants it because you're right.
So many people think that it's gonna be free health care, free mammograms, free this, free that.
Right.
And and the and the the shocker for me is I finally went to one of the websites and went through the estimator, and the quote unquote credit, meaning the part the government's gonna pick up on your health care tab phases out at four times the uh poverty rate.
So here's an insidious example.
If you're s if you're 40, you got two in your household, you make sixty-two thousand dollars, your monthly premiums four hundred and ninety-one dollars, and uh that you have to pay out of pocket.
You go to sixty-three thousand dollars, guess what?
You get to pay the full seven hundred and fifty dollars.
What is this four hundred and ninety and seven hundred and fifty?
It's gonna the minimum policy is gonna be fifty, five hundred.
Well, for on a monthly basis.
Oh monthly basis, okay.
The way the credit works is it's on a sliding scale up to four times the poverty rate.
So when you go one dollar over four times the poverty rate, you get zero federal subsidies.
Well, one thing you're right about, I understand all that.
One thing you're right about out of pocket, there's zero expense.
This is all done on your tax return.
It's taken away from your refund, the fine or the cost.
That's what the new agents are for.
So you're you're really not gonna get a bill for your Obamacare expenses.
It's gonna all be deducted, uh, either withheld at your boss, your job, or your tax return, your your refund.
You could be in an O situation.
Might owe them some money.
But people aren't, like any other tax, gonna have to write a check for it.
Check for it.
So in that way, it is kind of sneaky.
You're right, Debbie.
You really are right.
Okay, folks, that's it.
Uh brief time out, we'll be back.
Gotta go.
Don't go.
Okay, donkey, you'll rush bows serving humanity simply by showing up just by being here.
And we go to Hanover, Pennsylvania.
Amber.
Amber, great to have you here.
Hi.
Hi, Russ.
Thank you for taking my call.
You bet.
Honored to speak with you.
And Amber is, you know, one of my all-time top ten favorite female names.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, I wanted to comment on the George Zinnerman trial.
Um, racism will never die because people won't let it.
The media spends it, our politicians use it.
And I think that they are this trial is a perfect example of that.
The prosecution is relying on the racial issue to win this case because without it, they probably will not win the case.
And if the jury doesn't make their decision based on facts and testimony, it'll just be ridiculous.
Well, let me ask you what you think here.
You got your assessment here's pretty right on the money.
That everybody that made this trial happen did so because they want a statement on race made.
And they're willing to have a guy convicted, whether he's guilty or not, just to make that statement on race.
Right.
You've got a local Sheriff alluding to rallies that people are interpreting as riots.
You've got the media asking the sheriff about possible riots.
So you've got agitating for riots.
You have an all-white female jury.
The case, as it's it now, nobody can predict a jury.
But if you just watch this case, it is abundantly clear that in a sane world, the prosecution doesn't have a case.
The media is even signaling they know this by asking for lesser charges now to even to get a conviction.
The media, well, maybe we go to manslaughter.
Maybe they don't think they're anywhere near a conviction on murder one here, much less a racial hate crime.
If anybody had a crime committed against them and got this thing started, it was Zimmerman.
So if you got the a six-woman jury, five of them white, one of them's a white Hispanic, second white Hispanic in the country, uh Zimmerman being the first.
What can you imagine the pressures on that jury?
Yeah.
I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.
Can you imagine them sitting around there thinking, what if we do if we acquit?
I mean, town's gonna burn down, what people are gonna be busting here.
Al Sharpton's gonna ride in on a black horse, getting everybody all worked up.
Um I don't know.
I I you you're right, because the focus of this is race, the media.
The American left is invested in a guilty verdict with racial intent.
They are totally invested in it.
That was the narrative associated with this crime when it was first discovered that Treyvard Traylon Martin was black.
It's no it's no different, Amber, than the uh you remember the Duke LaCrosse case.
Right.
You had a black uh dancer, female dancer, the rich white lacrosse jocks, and she made these allegations, and it was just the the faculty at Duke, all these signers demanding these kids be found guilty and thrown out of school.
And it turns out uh the woman was lying about everything.
And these young guys had their reputations impugned and destroyed and everything, and nobody cared because the case represented an opportunity for the American left to prove what they claim still exists, that this country is essentially still a slave state.
And so that's what this case represents, another opportunity to convince people of that.
And they're totally invested in it.
And you're absolutely right, it ought to have nothing to do with this.
And it didn't have anything to do with it.
According to Zimmerman, and according to the cops who were originally there on the scene, the original investigating officers didn't even charge him with anything.
And then the pressure was brought on the local state attorney.
She was the first to feel the pressure, she reacted to it, and then the racial ball started rolling, and that was it.
And you hit the nail on the head.
The race industry never wants a solution.
Ever.
That's it's it's depressing.
Stop thinking about it.
And I don't blame you.
Amber, thanks for the call.
Really appreciate it.
We have a caller from Pensacola, Florida, Bill, who we don't have enough time to put him on.
But his great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence of New Jersey.
And he just calling to say that he's gonna go to the website, print it out and share it with his family, which is great.
Uh Morsey in Egypt has been told that he's no longer president, but he's still there, hasn't left yet, hasn't got the news.
Wouldn't it be that easy?
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