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May 7, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 7, 2013, Tuesday, Hour #2
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Greetings and welcome Rush Limbaugh, the Excellence and Broadcasting Network, the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Great to have you here.
Telephone number if you want to join us, 800 282-2882, and the email address L Rushville at EIBNet.com.
One more thing about this Benghazi stuff, because the fireworks are going to start tomorrow, but I you know in a in an in a sane and normal era or world.
And I mean this folks from the bottom of my substantial and loudly beating heart.
Boo-boom.
Boo-boom.
What happened in Benghazi would finish the public career of Hillary Clinton.
Any Secretary of State.
Any Secretary of Defense.
Who in supposed peacetime, peacetime, they wanted us to believe existed.
We all know we're not at peace with Al Qaeda.
They tried to make everybody believe we're at peace.
They had taken care of this enemy.
They had killed bin Laden.
They had gotten rid of Bush.
They had made us loved and respected again.
Four Americans dead and not an effort made to save them.
In any other administration, any other time, any other era, whoever was in charge of that and allowed that to happen and then offered the excuse, well, what difference does it make now?
Or we couldn't have gotten there in time, would have been gone, would have been publicly humiliated and gone.
Instead, we're being told how this is the smartest woman in the world, and she is going to be our next president.
I'm sorry.
This doesn't wash with me.
And this is a sign, an indication to me of how corrupt our national political system has become.
And it's just a it's a shame.
And if you stop and think about it, it becomes much more than a shame.
It becomes infuriating and frustrating.
I want to play one more sound by grab number 24, Lindsay Gramnesty.
This afternoon on Happening Now on the Fox News Channel.
John Scott, the host, said to Senator Graham, Gregory Hicks, number two State Department official in the country that night says he was trying to get the Defense Department to scramble fighter jets to at least fly over the compound.
Just make some noise.
Maybe intimidate them.
Just make some noise, maybe scare them off.
We wouldn't even do that.
The administration seems to have indicated that that would have been sort of a breach of international protocol.
They have said that.
Well, we couldn't publicly humiliate Libyans by indicating they couldn't control their country.
They did say that.
But we violated Pakistani airspace to get bin Laden.
Why couldn't we do it to save four American lives?
That's a ridiculous excuse, and the idea they couldn't get there in time is puzzling because they did not tell us when they attacked the consulate how long the attack would last.
So I asked Dempsey and Panetta at the time you were made aware of the attack on the consulate.
Did you know when it would be over?
This could have went for days.
So the idea they didn't scramble the jets because they couldn't get there in time defies common sense.
And if this is the excuse given we don't want to violate Libyan airspace, that's ridiculous.
I'd hate to be serving in some uh volatile region of the world if that's gonna be American policy, because nobody will ever have you back.
Exactly right.
But this idea that we didn't want to uh offend the Libyans, they did.
They threw everything up against the wall, including this this phantom video and filmmaker who had the whole Arab world up in arms, that didn't happen.
And they did say, well, it would have been humiliating to uh send our military in there against the wishes of the Libyan government.
They didn't want us to go in there and uh trying to forge new relationships, we're just getting rid of Qaddafi.
Yeah, you think that might have been a factor too.
I'm just, I'm just if this had happened in Great Britain, these people would resign.
If it happened in Japan, these people would resign.
There's a sense of honor.
In this country, they would have been forced to resign in the old days in a normal sane sense.
No, we're going to circle the wagons and we're going to lie about it, and we're going to say that this is the next president of the United States.
I'm sorry, I had to get that off my chest.
Now, I want to talk for a minute about these um these three people that have been missing for 10 years in Cleveland and found.
I'll bet many of you thought nothing Rush can say about that.
Oh.
I have no idea.
Nobody does yet.
At least if somebody knows I haven't able to keep up with the story, it happened just before the show started.
These three people discovered uh missing for 10 years, staying in some Malcontents house or whatever.
I don't have no idea what if if if the latest news on this, I don't know it.
If there's any more than that.
But as it so happens, I happened last night to watch Hawaii 5.0 on CBS.
Hawaii 5.0's premise last night was kidnapped girls.
Held until they were 18, and then let go or killed.
Well, always killed by a couple doing it for the welfare benefits.
You know, just reprobate husband and wife.
The husband, a lazy SOB, claiming he had a disability and couldn't work.
They kidnapped young girls and kept them in shackles.
This was the premise.
It's just a TV show, but I thought, wow, it's fascinating.
Kept them in shackles in a hidden room in their run down house somewhere on Oahu.
The 5-0 team trying to find them for the parents.
One girl was missing for 12 years.
Found dead somewhere out in the hinterlands.
And the 5-0 team did the you know, the whatever the show is.
They tracked them down, they found out what it was, and the guy was simply kidnapping these girls to provide tax exemptions and qualification for welfare benefits.
So we'd have to work.
And then when they were no longer useful at age 18, he killed them.
Until, of course, 5-0 came on and saved a day.
Now, I don't know what happened to Cleveland.
But I I couldn't, I couldn't help but make the connection.
I mean, if everybody else in the low information crowd's gonna use what happens on TV for reality, why can't I?
So here it is.
Three women missing nine plus years found alive, all were teenagers when they disappeared.
Does anybody know yet why?
Has the story advanced yet?
Three three brothers of their brothers or three brothers.
Three brothers, but not related to the three women, have been arrested in uh in Cleveland, which voted Obama.
Not that that's gonna do with anything.
One of who has the baby?
Double welfare benefits.
If one of the women has a baby.
No, I don't know.
I just I just wanted it fascinating to hear the same thing happened last night on Hawaii 5.0, and I guarantee you people watch it on Hawaii Happen on TV.
It is for real.
Let's see.
Let me take a break.
I'm gonna come back and we're gonna get uh into your into your phone calls.
I've listened there there Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've got this.
The political has gone out and found a bunch of conservatives, so-called, that are up that are really mad at the Heritage Foundation and their immigration report.
Uh Yeah, uh the political claims that the right, quote unquote, immediately tried to shut down the heritage's immigration report within hours.
And these conservatives that tried to shut down the heritage report within hours are Paul Ryan, Douglas Holtz Eakin, an economist, former advisor to McCain, recently signed an amicus brief in support of same-sex marriage,
Haley Barber, who uh attacked Romney during the 2012 campaign for being too hard on illegal aliens, the Cato Institute, which is libertarian, and Grover Norquist.
So those are the conservatives that the political found, well, they didn't find them.
I guess these guys were actively trying to shut down the Heritage Foundation's immigration report on the costs and the other details that we told you about uh yesterday.
But Politico's not alone here.
Uh the memo went out yesterday, uh, and and we're getting the same story from the entire media echo chamber, and they're all citing similar conservatives who are very suspect on the subject of amnesty, like Grover Norquist and others.
The counter argument that is being offered here to the heritage study is this, and this is from the political article.
Most economists on the right and the left insist that immigration reform would be more or less awash, because immigrants would be paying taxes that would help support social security and social programs like food stamps and housing aid.
Now that that's in the political piece.
Now I'm sorry, but that's pathetically wrong.
Forty-seven percent of Americans are not paying income tax, and I guarantee you, those who would be made citizens via amnesty would also be in the income range where they wouldn't be paying any tax.
This idea that the costs to the social structure, the safety net structure in this country be overwhelmed by amnesty.
The politico is about some republicans.
No, no, no.
It'd be a wash because these new citizens would be immediately paying taxes.
Well, there are already a bunch of Americans paying taxes, and how come we've got massive deficits?
How come it isn't a wash already with the existing taxpayers?
The idea that we can legalize 11 million new citizens within a short few years of a time frame and put no strain on the social safety net.
But that's how the heritage report is being attacked in the politico, in the mainstream media, and they've gone out and they found people who identify themselves as conservatives to uh to oppose it.
But isn't it maybe I'm wrong, but isn't it somewhat obvious that most of these immigrants who would then find themselves on this pathway to citizenship, amnesty, whatever, wouldn't they end up among the 47% who aren't paying any income tax?
Isn't it a matter of mathematics?
Yeah, initially.
So who instead they're gonna get money back from the earned income tax credit in addition to not paying taxes, they're gonna immediately qualify for the earned income tax credit credit, which is going to get them cash back.
So they're not gonna be contributing any more money, tax money than they already do.
I mean, they're paying sales tax, yes, but that isn't going to change.
Uh if they are employed and they're not in a cash business, they are having social security, payroll tax withheld.
I mean, there's one question we could ask if if um if legalizing illegal aliens making them citizens is such a boon to the economy why are all these sanctuary cities and the states they are located doing so poorly if there is a grand financial benefit
to the pathway to citizenship.
Why is California in such dire financial circumstances?
Speaking of taxes, ladies and gentlemen, there's a singer out there, a uh Grammy Award-winning singer by the name of Lauren Hill.
And she has, I guess.
Well, she's been she's given three months in prison for failing to pay about a million dollars in taxes over the last ten years.
And she blamed slavery for it.
She said, I'm a child of former slaves who had a system imposed on them.
I had an economic system imposed on me.
So she's saying her parents were slaves.
And she shouldn't have to pay taxes because her parents were slow, she's gonna say that she's a child of former slaves.
It's what?
Well, I've got the whole story here.
Uh Snerdley's telling me it's kookier than than even we can imagine.
And I don't doubt that.
Wesley Snipes should have tried it.
He got a year.
She only got three months.
So the slavery excuse.
Oh, she paid the money.
I know she paid the money.
She had the that that's the thing, three months, almost a million dollars, but she sat there, she blamed slavery.
That she she attempted to get out of paying it, saying the reason I didn't pay it's because I shouldn't have to.
I'm the daughter of slaves.
And I had a system imposed on me.
The system's not mine, it's yours.
I shouldn't have to pay any of this.
But that's not the point.
She's a multimillionaire.
She's a Grammy award-winning singer in the United States of America, and she's trying to portray herself as some herself as some sort of prisoner.
Who's putting that kind of stuff in her mind?
Democrat Party.
All the people she hangs around with in the music business, all the leftists and the liberals, all this constant talk about what a racist country this is.
This is what happens.
That stuff doesn't just happen in the vacuum.
You have these impressionable young people that don't know beans anyway because their education was worthless.
So here she is, a multimillionaire, loved and adored by millions of people.
Her music is purchased by tens of thousands of people, and she thinks she's a slave.
Or either using the excuse will somehow get her out of having to pay what she owes.
Just another sign of the cultural rot and decay.
Let's go to the phone.
Steve in South Windsor, Connecticut, great to have you, the EIB network.
Hello.
Yeah, Rush, you know, I think there's actually a third scenario, possibly here.
And I don't no matter what Hillary Clinton did or didn't do, I say goes right to the to the top.
Because Obama owns Libya.
He went into Libya without congressional approval and committed U.S. troops and bombed Libya.
I mean, he owned it.
Hillary, I don't think is that stupid to make that kind of call without Congress.
And then to make a call and not do anything, and that's why they have to circle the wagons around her.
They absolutely, to your point earlier, any other Secretary of State would have been marched out.
But if it wasn't her call, and she knows it, and everyone in the inner circle knows it, they gotta protect her because not that she would ever sing like a canary, um, because that would definitely.
Wait, wait, wait a second.
I'm I want to make sure I understand what you're saying.
You're saying that it wasn't her call, it was Obama's, and since Obama clearly didn't want to do anything, she wasn't gonna do anything, and therefore you can't really blame her because she was just being loyal to her president.
Absolutely.
There's why would she not make that call?
I mean, there's just there's absolutely She had her own counter-terrorism piece, she got her counter-espionage people.
The State Department has its own intelligence unit.
They've got its own espionage.
They've got their own version of the CIA.
It's much smaller, but those people were telling her what's going on.
Obama checked out at 5 o'clock.
Obama told Hillary Clinton and Panetta, you You take care of it.
Yeah, but Rush, when it came to Libya, I just think it's a different scenario because who wanted to go into Libya so bad and get out Gaddafi?
Was it Hillary?
Well, look.
Uh in every one of these circumstances, you can say it always goes to the top.
Clearly it does.
Obama clearly indicated to everybody he wasn't that interested.
He just said you take care of it.
He didn't issue any specific orders.
But she did not, she did not make any phone calls.
She did not do anything.
Yet she claimed that she did everything she could to save lives.
Um of course there's always the president, and you can say that that uh Hillary was being loyal and and this kind of thing, but uh this is her turf.
This is the consulate, this is the embassy.
This is under the purview of the uh of the State Department.
Anyway, take a break.
Don't go away, folks.
Let's see if if Lauren Hill is the uh child of former slaves, she must be like a hundred and thirty, a hundred and forty years old, the mid-hundreds, if she's the child of uh of former slaves.
She used to be in the Fuji's.
She's earned a lot of money in this slave-infested racist country.
And because it's all a bit imposed on her, she uh she shouldn't have to pay taxes.
Here's Nancy Bergen County, New Jersey.
Hi, Nance, great to have you on the program.
Hello.
Hi.
I um rushed since July 4th, 88 when my husband told me that this is the best guy that's ever gonna hit radio and he's gonna be giant.
Um a lot of drive-by calls, and I'm horrifically nervous.
But just two things I wonder if you had time to to think about.
For somebody who's been here since literal day one, I have time.
July 4th, 1988, that was my first day in New York, and it was just on uh WABC.
And it on that day, uh an Iraqi jet liner had crashed, and uh Saddam Hussein had uh put a bunch of dummies, mannequins around to make it look worse than it was to try to blame us.
I'll never forget that.
Yeah, that was a that was oh what a day that was.
July 4th, 1980, scared to death.
I can't tell you.
There was make or break that day, and you're and you were there.
That that that I appreciate that.
Well, my husband said he listened to 20 minutes, I said he said I listened to 20 minutes of this man, and he's gonna be the biggest thing that ever happened to radio.
Um it took me a little time because I am a woman, but I got it, and I'm actually probably more fanatic rush rush babe than uh he is a rush guy.
But um I wanted to mention just two quick points.
One about Benghazi.
The reason I I don't think it's wrong that it's both incompetence plus politics, but I think it's an eat but even deeper version of both.
Because when else in our history, where are the 30 survivors?
When have you ever held found in this country 30 free people who survived any kind of uh a thing?
Look at look at these these three girls that are being found today.
How long is the is the media gonna let that sit?
Thirty free people who wouldn't have been free probably without those brave guys who went in against orders.
They would have been hostages, they would have been murdered, who knows?
This is how many months that we haven't heard a word from one of thirty free American people.
That's just says to me deeper, deeper, and there's more to it.
Well, hold your thought right there, because has there it's now 2013?
Bill Clinton left office in January of 2001.
Has there yet been a single tell all book written about anything that happened during those eight years?
There hasn't been one from anybody inside.
The only effort was made by an FBI agent named Gary Aldrich, and they summarily dispatched him, and nobody in the media took that seriously.
It is entirely believable to me that this political operation can get hold of those people and demand and get silence.
That's how this political party operates.
I I fear for them.
That's uh exactly right.
I fear for those thirty people.
I I think that I think that we are doing them a big injustice not to at least seek them out to find out that they are in fact, okay.
But um the other thing I wanted to mention is that that that uh you know we repeat the same thing as insanity.
Well, the this immigration thing, with all due respect, set Senator Rubio, this is insanity times ten in our lifetimes.
I remember President Reagan negotiating, go back.
He understood that we had a problem with immigration, but he wanted to make sure that if they made an attempt that it didn't become more of a magnet than uh than a than an adjustment than a fix, and he kept sending them back.
You know, and they came back with legislation, they came back with laws that were attached, it came back with regulations, and then the regulations were never followed.
They were thought it doesn't matter.
I want to say to Senator Rubio, do you hear listen to your commercial?
Everything you're saying, the regulation, regulation.
What does it matter if they're not enforced?
I remember when I went for a job in 88, I had to for the first time in my life present all kinds I had to find my marriage license, all kinds of documents.
That was me because I was a legal person.
But we had groups of people standing on corners just over the border in lower New York, waiting for anybody to pick them up.
You didn't have to be a rocket scientist to know that those people were undocumented waiting to get picked up for day work.
So why, Senator Rubio, do you believe that this any any regulation that you put is going to be followed?
That's why I before you said it, I find him unfortunately to be he is young.
I think it's a little naive to believe in these people.
Look at recent history.
That's all I want to say to him is look at recent history.
First close the borders, second, make sure anything that's like a magnet is done, taken away.
And I don't see how they do it.
Looking at what happened in 86 with all the precautions that Reagan put, with all the warnings, even as signing it, he warned.
And it's still what did we make?
We made a giant magnet.
Forget Reagan.
Let's go back and listen to what Ted Kennedy said, who was one of the proponents.
Ted Kennedy said this would end it.
There would never ever be any more illegal immigration.
If we just did amnesty this time, Chuck Schumer made the same promises in 1986.
He was in the House back then, he made the same promises Ted Kennedy in the Senate was saying the exact same thing.
If we do this now, we will never ever have to do this again.
And the truth of the matter is that they were lying then and they're lying now.
The Democrat Party needs a permanent underclass in order to thrive.
The Democrat Party cannot survive with upwardly mobile people rapidly moving out of poverty and into the trenches of the middle class, because when they get to the middle class and they see the possibilities of upward mobility, that's when they resort to hard work, self-determination, and they try to really become the best they can be.
And as they succeed, they don't need the Democrat Party, and they don't need government.
And the Democrat Party cannot survive if that's the case.
So they need a constant influx of people.
Now, this is pre-Obama.
Nobody's growing out of the middle class now.
But before Obama got his hooks in the economy, upward mobility was the name of the game in this country.
And the Democrats needed a new influx of poor people, uneducated poor people, in order to provide a permanent underclass.
And I'll be honest, not just the Democrats.
A lot of American business likes low-cost labor.
And they were also happy to see this influx coming in.
It wasn't just a political thing for the Democrats.
There were a lot of people who saw benefits to an inflow of such people.
But the Democrat Party, you know, that none of this happens without them providing the political impetus for it to happen because it's a political issue.
It's not a human rights issue.
It's not, it's a political issue.
Now, without this upward, there isn't nearly as much upward mobility.
There can be the debt.
The Obama administration has seen to it that the private sector is shrinking.
And as the private sector shrinks, and more and more people stop working, there's less and less opportunity.
There's less and less achievement.
And the achievements taking place is being picked up by fewer and fewer people.
That's why the rich are getting richer and the poor aren't moving at all is because the economy is shrinking and the people who know how to maximize it are using it.
The current inflow of uneducated poor people, uh, with no upward mobility now is nirvana for the Democrat Party.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, by the way, Nancy, thank you so much.
I really made my day here.
You you go all the way back to July 4th, 1988, and I thank you for calling.
I want to, you know, I say these things, and I realize to those of you who are casual listeners, first-timers.
I realize how really what powerful or whoa, man, does he really believe that?
I realize what it sounds like.
When you hear me say the Democrat Party needs a constant inflow of poor, uneducated people to make up an underclass.
They they need a permanent underclass, depending on government.
Now, I know that how that sounds to those of you who have never thought about this before.
I know how that sounds to you, of people who don't look at poverty that way.
You look at poverty as the collection of unfortunate people, and you can't imagine, you just can't conceive that people would exploit them.
You believe every Democrat you hear talking about poverty who wants to help people out, you hear them say that, and you believe it because you think that too.
Everybody in poverty ought to be out of it.
And you hear me come along and say that there's a political party that benefits from a permanent underclass, and you scratch it.
Well, this is I've never heard anything like that.
I can't believe that.
Believe it.
Again, I've I've got one objective here, and that is for as many people to accept and believe the truth of things as possible.
I have nothing in it for me to make things up.
There's absolutely no benefit that I derive from being wrong.
There is n I I will not maintain an audience.
If I lie, make things up, have no credibility, if I simply say outrageous things for the sake of it.
The media countryside is strewn with the carcasses of people like that.
They don't last.
I've got no interest in being wrong.
I have no interest in lying to you.
I have no interest in having you believe something that isn't true.
So when I tell you that the Democrat Party needs a permanent underclass in order to stay in power, think about it for a second.
What is a permanent underclass?
Well, poor people.
Uneducated.
What do they need?
Food.
They need housing, they Need water, they need electricity, they need cell phones.
Who provides that for those people?
Well, you do with your tax money, but in their minds, who's giving it to them?
Democrat Party, government.
And that's how the Democrats derive power.
That's how they stay in powered.
They become the providers.
Santa Claus.
And then on the other side of that, who is it that wants to take it away from them?
And that would be the Republicans who are mean spirited, cold hearted extremists, so goes the story.
It's the Republicans who want to take all that away from them.
It's the Democrats who are Santa Claus.
It's the Democrats who have compassion.
The Democrats who understand the needs of poor people.
It's the Democrats who want them poor.
The Democrats who need poor people voting for them.
And consequently Democrats also need for people to think that it's the Republicans that want them to stay poor, and Republicans don't want to take that stuff away from them.
The truth of the matter is I don't know about Republicans, but for me, as a conservative, you know what we want?
We want everybody if the Democrat Party thinks can't do anything, we want them maximizing their potential.
We want 'em learning how.
Being educated and learning how to be motivated, inspired to get themselves out of that circumstance.
We don't want them permanent poverty, underclass, whatever.
We don't benefit from that.
Country does not benefit.
The country does not get great nor stay great with people in that circumstance.
We don't like it.
And we don't like them being used, and we don't like them being kept poor, particularly under the false guise that what they get is assistance.
There's a belief on the Democrat side that they're not capable of doing anything else.
They're not capable of decent judgment, life decisions, and that kind of thing.
The whole thing is it's really a bugaboo with me.
But that's why, back in 1986, when Ted Kennedy said, this is going to be the end of it, he never intended for it to end.
Thank you.
Doesn't matter where they come from, it's not Mexican spirits.
Wherever the Democrats can pick up underclass people who bring undereducated poor people, bring them in here and make them voting Democrats, and they'll take them no matter where they come from.
Back to the phones to Chicago.
This is Michael.
It's great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
How are you doing today?
Very well.
Appreciate your asking.
Yeah, um uh well I just want to let you know.
My dad used to make me listen to you when I was in high school, and he uh always said that I would learn more from you than I would ever learn from my teachers.
Yeah, the punishment.
The punishment, your dad made you listen.
Well, I uh we we would always go driving, you know, to the golf course or whatever, and he would always uh I'd always want to listen to music and he'd have you on, and I'd complain and he'd force me to listen.
So God bless him.
Because here you are.
Yeah, exactly.
And uh the the reason I was calling is I wanted to call about the notion that uh illegal immigrants are hiding in the shadows.
I mean, you hear Barack Obama say that, and I even think um Marco Rubio said it on your show, you know, about illegal immigrants hiding in the shadows.
Um I lived in Las Vegas for three years, and I was a bartender in my early twenties in Las Vegas.
And I have friends who are illegal immigrants and legal immigrants, you know, my w my ex-wife um is an illegal immigrant, and they're not hiding in the shadows, Rush.
They're you know, they have driver's licenses, they drive cars, they get medical care, they work, um, you know, they live the same lives as regular legal Americans do.
So this whole notion that they're hiding in the shadows, you know, they're hiding from police that they're scared that they're gonna get sent back to wherever they're from.
I mean, that's just that's that's patently false.
It's it's untrue.
So what do you think is meant by it when say an Obama or a Chuck Schumer or any uh advocate for a pathway to citizenship talks about them living in the shadows.
What do they mean?
And and what kind of picture are they trying to paint?
Well, they're trying to show they're trying to paint a picture of these people that are afraid and they're scared and and and they're afraid to be seen by other people because they're afraid that they might get sent back to wherever they're from, that they're not able to um partake in what makes America great.
But they have just that's just not true because they they part they you know, they go to the mall, they do all these great things that we do because we're free.
You know, they have the same freedoms that we do.
It's just that they don't have actual legal status.
But I mean they're not sitting around hiding behind rocks afraid that they're gonna get sent back to wherever they're from.
They're not huddled in the corners of dilapidated tenements.
Right.
I mean, when when my when when uh my daughter was born, um, you know, she was born in a hospital.
You know, she wasn't born it's like we went to the hospital and they found out my my wife was an illegal immigrant and they said no, you need to go.
You know, my daughter was born in the hospital.
So, you know, and my uh ex-family.
That's a good point.
You know, a lot of Los Angeles hospitals, emergency rooms are shut down because of all the business from unpaying.
Uh illegals.
Yeah, you're right.
The attempt here is to paint a picture of America oppressing.
Innocent, decent, good loving, hard working people.
How could we be so mean?
Yep.
It's always America's fault.
Well, it's the top of the hour, folks.
And sad though it may be, we must take a brief recess of timeout.
But we'll come back, lots still stoked for the future.
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