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April 30, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 30, 2013, Tuesday, Hour #3
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All right, grab somebody 25, have it standing by.
I might call for it, and when I call for it, I want it to be there.
So half 25 standing by, greetings, welcome back, Rush Limbaugh, the EIV network, and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
You want to know what real courage is?
Try being a black conservative in American politics today.
Try, you want to know what courage is?
Try being Alan West.
Try being well, not Michael Steele.
He's already sold out.
Try being Shelby Steele.
Try being Thomas Soule.
Try living the life of Clarence Thomas.
No, Michael Steele is just, you know, I think there's a classic example of somebody that's just inconsiderate and ungrateful.
I'm and there was a day he had so much potential, I thought.
I was one of his biggest champions.
Back in the days, he was running for the Senate in Maryland.
I'm just saying, look at Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz, senator from Texas, is under attack from Republicans because of his just heartfelt conservatism.
He's under attack from so-called Republicans in the media.
And the objective on all these guys, Ted Cruz, even Rubio to a certain extent, the black conservatives, the effort is to try to pull these guys down and neuter them and make them afraid to be conservative and to express conservatism, all the clear the way for a rhino.
Now, let me address this Rubio stuff because the staff on the other side of the glass is very concerned that the headline in about five minutes on every website in the world is going to be Limbaugh, colon, Rubio, naive on immigration.
In the first place, let me say at the outset, Senator Rubio and I are friends.
We know each other and we communicate somewhat regularly.
So these efforts that are underway or might be underway to drive a wedge between Senator Rubio and me simply will not work.
There was a story last week.
I don't remember the details of it, but it was essentially that I had been highly critical and was ripping Senator Rubio.
His staff called me and said, we know that's not true.
We know that's not what happened.
We know that's not what you said.
We got it.
And the same thing here on this immigration business.
Folks, I'm not going to backtrack from what I say.
If we grant amnesty, and Rubio does not support amnesty, he's never come out and said he's for amnesty.
If we do amnesty for 11 million or more illegal aliens, I'm telling you, it's the end of the Republican Party.
And it isn't just me saying so.
The Politico ran that story 10 days ago.
It's mathematics.
It's all it is.
And all I've ever said, and I asked Senator Rudy, oh, that's what it was.
There was supposedly a report about how I'd really raked Rubio over to Kohl's in his interview here and how he was mad at me over something.
And they call, so look, we know that's not what happened.
And it wasn't.
I forget the express details.
But it's simply a matter of mathematics.
If you have the voting percentages, polling data indicate that 70% of the Hispanic vote is going to vote Democrat no matter what.
McCain's even said that if we did amnesty tomorrow, it's not going to get us a single Hispanic vote.
But what it is going to do is put us in the game.
And right now we're not in a game, he thinks.
We don't have a chance to compete for their minds and hearts because they think we want to deport them.
And I said, that's a crock.
And there's no, we don't need immigration to reform to compete for the minds and hearts of any voter.
We don't need to pass a law tomorrow before we can compete for anybody.
We can go get, we can campaign, we can take our message to anybody or any group we want.
We don't need a piece of legislation first.
But full-fledged amnesty is the end of the Republican Party.
And I asked Senator Rubio, I said, look, why would we want to do something that the Democrat Party is salivating over?
The Democrats want amnesty so bad they can taste it because they know what it would mean it would mean a number of new Democrats automatically that we simply can't compete with no matter what we do that's why they are so eager for there was an AP piece three days ago Rushlin Boy Marco Rubio showed GOP rift over immigration reform
no Ted Cruz was it wasn't immigration cruise was attacked by Republicans for participating in the gun filibuster and Cruz the Republicans were yelling at him and saying mean things try you want courage try being Dr. Benjamin Carson that's real courage now
I I've I've said that I think Senator Rubio is a little naive here let me explain to you what I mean by that Senator Rubio when you listen to him and I've said this before this is all repetition but I'll do it again Senator Rubio is a young guy.
He just got elected to the Senate.
This was supposed to be Charlie Crist's seat.
It was way too early for Senator Rubio.
He wasn't supposed to be here yet.
And you listen to him and he has the and this is good.
By the way, he has an enthusiasm for conservatism that anybody new to the scene has.
His attitude is okay.
Maybe we're in trouble, but I'm here now and I'm conservative and I've got the ability to convince anybody.
He brings that to the table.
We need that.
Too many elected Republicans today are backing away from conservatism.
They're afraid of it because of how the left attacks anybody who is Senator Rubio is undaunted by that.
He's not afraid of it.
When I say he's naive, I don't mean about immigration.
I think maybe naive is not even the real word for it, because I could.
I just think that he's not quite.
How do I say this?
He's willing to give liberals a much bigger benefit of the doubt than I would, based on my experiences with them.
I, if I was asked to a meeting of a bunch of liberal senators And they were trying to persuade me to agree with them on immigration.
I'm sorry, I'd take the meeting, but I would be suspicious of it.
And there's just no way that I would get or be persuaded by.
I know them too well.
But he's got this new enthusiasm.
He's arrived here and he thinks he can do anything.
And that's good.
And maybe he can.
I do think now that Senator Rubio in this gang of eight arrangement is actually in a really good and unique position since they have made him the face of it.
Schumer and the boys pushed him out as the face of it because the theory was: let's get a conservative out there who ostensibly wants what we want, and it'll make it easier for people in his party to oppose him because he's got presidential ambitions and nobody wants to cut those short.
Nobody wants to take Marco Rubi out on the right.
It's a way to stifle any criticism of the gang, but putting him.
He knows this.
He's fully aware of it.
You know, Marco Rubio, from his own experience, that of his family, he isn't as worried about immigrants willingly becoming underclass, happy to live on government benefits as some of us are.
The Democrat Party is counting on the fact that the vast majority of these illegals are just going to become immediate wards of the state.
That's what they want them to be.
Now, Rubio, you've heard the story.
His father from Cuba, father sacrificed everything.
There is nothing ward of the state-like in any aspect of Rubio's experience or his life.
And you'd have to say Rubio, he's Latino, Hispanic, however you define these from Cuba.
And he believes, because of his own experience, that people like him can be reached.
He believes, because of his own experience, that the conservative message is exactly what these people can be persuaded to support.
And I admire that.
That kind of enthusiasm is needed.
That kind of excitement and positive nature is needed.
How else would any conservative have any say in Congress's push for immigration?
It was inevitable.
And he's positioned himself here brilliantly.
Now, when I brought up that the immigrants legalized would not be supporters of the Republicans electorally, I mentioned all this to him.
I'm not saying anything here I haven't said to him privately and in interviews on this program.
He allowed that most would likely vote Democrat.
He said and believed that they could be won by campaigning for them on the strength of the conservative message.
And his point was compelling about not fixing immigration for political reasons.
And the GOP will lose if they do it.
If they're doing this for political reasons, he said that right on this program.
He said it's not in the best interest of the country.
And Republicans are doing it for political purposes.
The Republicans are, they're totally convinced that the only way that they're ever going to get more of a Hispanic vote, I can't emphasize to you how much the Republican establishment really believes they lost the election because of the Hispanic vote.
Now, we heard yesterday, there's a new Pew survey or some survey, everybody believes it, that what really lost Romney the election was the white turnout.
Something we have been stating on this program since the election, by the way.
The real question, why did the white vote stay home?
If the percentages of the white vote and the black vote in 2008 had been replicated in 2012, so goes this report.
Romney likely would have won.
The difference wasn't the Hispanic vote.
The difference was the white vote.
So now we must ask, why did they sit home?
Now, there are some who believe that the white voters that didn't vote for Romney stayed home because of me and talk radio during the primary.
They believe that people like me during the Republican primaries were so insistent that Romney just be a full-fledged card-carrying conservative that when he wasn't, that we inspired the white vote to stay home.
I think that is a crock.
I'll tell you what is going on, in my humble opinion.
I think the white voters that did vote in 08, didn't vote in 2012, are middle-class voters who are listening to all the rhetoric coming out of Washington, and they're convinced that nobody gives a rat's rearrangement about them.
We got to do this for that group.
We got to do this for that group.
We've got an economy crumbling.
In 2012, we had an economy crumbling.
Middle-class, white working people, look at the Obama campaign gave up on them.
You remember that column that came out in November of 2011 by Thomas B. Edsel?
I've quoted that thing thousands of times, where the Obama campaign wrote off the white working class vote.
They knew they had already lost them.
They're the bitter clingers.
I think they probably thought with all this other, you know, the talk about doing this for that group and this, I think they just, okay, they're conservative to an extent and never going to vote Obama.
But I don't think they didn't vote for Romney because he wasn't conservative.
And I think it has nothing to do with it.
I think it had to do with the fact that they just didn't think that anybody in Washington, policy-wise, had anything that was going to fix what was wrong in their lives.
And they said, hell with it.
And the Republicans who think that they lost because the Hispanic vote are right.
And I've mentioned this to Senator Rubio, too.
The Hispanic vote was 7% of the electorate.
By contrast, the evangelical vote was 28% or 29% of the electorate.
Now, of the 7% of the Hispanics, Republicans got 27 or 28% of it.
Big whoop.
But on the evangelical side, of that 28 or 29 percent turnout or percentage of the electorate, the Republicans got 80 percent of it.
And in that group, why didn't they get 100 percent of it?
They weren't going to vote Obama.
Why did they get 100 percent of it?
Because they just felt ignored, overlooked, or what have you.
I think it had anything to do with the primaries.
I think anything to do with anything other than they heard all this talk about everybody else.
Many of them think they're the backbone of America or have been, and everything's being pulled out from under them.
Meanwhile, it's their taxes that are supporting all this other stuff.
And they just said to hell with it.
Anyway, let me take a brief time out, only because of the constraints of time.
We'll be back and continue in just a second.
Don't go away.
Okay, grab sound by 25.
Bill Clinton this morning in Washington, Georgetown University.
And he's still making Ken Starr jokes.
I mean, right on schedule.
There was a hilarious cartoon that appeared in many newspapers in America at the end of my middle of my second term when I was in a long-running battle with the Republican special counsel Kenneth Starr.
So in this cartoon, I'm talking to the president of China, Zhang Jimin.
And I said, you know, you ought to allow more political liberty.
And in our country, these people you keep putting in jail, they'd be out there speaking on the street corner.
He said, yeah.
And in our country, Kenneth Starr would be in jail making tennis shoes.
So even after all of this time, this guy still can't get over it.
So this is my point.
So Ken Starr was the pervert.
It was Clinton who ruined a woman's life.
A 19-year-old intern, Monica Lewinsky, ruined her life.
He's a hero for it.
But we weren't supposed to talk about it.
Sex, nobody's business didn't affect his job.
Everybody does it.
It was just BJs.
It wasn't even sex.
Ken Starr was the pervert.
And here's Clinton.
And he goes out and celebrates Jason Collins yesterday coming out in today's Georgetown.
And he has to make a joke.
A chi-com says, yeah, well, you might have fruit.
If our country, Ken Starr would be in jail making tennis shoes.
I'm here to tell you, this guy still hasn't forgotten it.
He still hasn't gotten over it.
He's still bitter about it.
And Starr didn't do anything.
Ken Starr, pervert.
Remember that parody we did?
Larry King interviewing Carville and Ken Starr.
Carville says, He's a space alien, Larry.
He's a space alien from Mars.
You came here to get your kids smoking tobacco and destroy our president.
Larry King says, Ken, are you really from Mars?
Larry, come on.
He's not only from Mars, he's here trying to get all your kids smoking cigarettes and tobacco products.
He's got to have to destroy our president and kill your children.
That's an awfully serious charge, Ken Starr.
You really trying to get kids on Larry Cunny.
I'm simply.
And not only that.
I'll tell you what, Larry.
This man is actually a pervert.
He's a sick pervert, Larry.
He's had to destroy our president.
Scintillating charges from James Carville.
Thanks for being with us tonight on Larry King Live, blah, blah, blah.
We made a parody out of this.
Clinton committed perjury in a sexual harassment case.
He was the sexual harasser.
He committed perjury.
And he's telling jokes about how some ChiCom leader is reassuring him that Ken Starr would be in jail making tennis shoes.
Talk about perverts.
We'll be back.
Don't go away.
Let me tell the Chai Con leader what our system does.
Bill Clinton was held in contempt of court, and he was disbarred for what he did.
And he could have been in jail making license plates.
He could have been in jail making tennis shoes.
He was disbarred, Mr. Chi-Com leader.
I was talking to Chi-Com guy, Zhing Xiaoping, whatever his name is.
And he told me in his country, Ken Starr would be an ass too.
I wouldn't put up people like Ken Starr in the Chi-Com Society.
It's like we would put up with him here.
Anyway, talk about being stuck in the past.
Talk about being old fuddy-dutty, old-foshion, old-fashioned speaking.
Bill Clinton is stuck back in 19 years ago history at Georgetown University.
I wonder if they gave him free birth control while he was there.
They're known for that at Georgetown.
Give it away to anybody who wants it.
I wonder if Clinton got as much as he needed on his way out.
Here's Shelly in Highland Ranch, Colorado.
I'm glad you waited.
Welcome.
Oh, my gosh.
I can't believe I'm talking to you.
I think it is time, or I want to ask you when your next speech to the nation, like your CPAC speech four years ago, I think it's way overdue.
Yeah, you know.
I'm calling you again like that.
I very much appreciate you calling and asking when the next one of those is going to be.
I was kind of surprised.
I did the CPAC speech.
It was awesome.
Thank you very much.
What was it, four years ago?
Yeah, it was Obama's first year.
So it was 2009.
You were the first one to say, well, you know, you were.
The first one to say, I hope he fails.
And went on the it's like a status report from you is due.
How's he doing?
Well, I know, you know, it would wake some people up.
You know, it would get play.
We need, I think you're dead on about Rubio, but the Republican Party, it's like they go to Washington and they decide to trust each other.
I don't get it.
Well, look at, let me close the loop here on Rubio and his naive business because I know this is going to be misreported and misquoted.
And let me just, for those of you in this audience who really matter and care to me, and that's it, when I say he's naive, all I mean is I don't think he's naive about what's going on in immigration.
I don't think he's naive about what is happening in that bill.
That's not all what I mean.
When I say I think he's naive, I just, I don't think he has yet undergone the full-fledged search and destroy mission that the left is going to aim at him yet.
And when that happens, he's going to have a changed attitude about them.
Right now, he's their chosen way.
They love him.
They've allowed him to be front and center on this immigration bill.
Chuck Schumer is, you know, wait till the tables are, wait till Schumer and the boys go after Rubio and try to destroy him.
That's all I mean.
That's nothing more than that.
And frankly, this naivete, I don't even mean that as an insult.
Sometimes, how many times have you talked to people?
I hope you're right.
How many, well, I know I'm right.
How many times have you talked to people and you have an idea about dealing with the left?
That'll never happen.
You can't do it.
Why not?
It just won't happen.
Maybe they have a too long camp.
He never says that yet.
Rubio doesn't say, I can't do that.
We can't.
It can't happen.
He's got that newly arrived enthusiasm.
He knows who the left is, but they haven't trained their attack machine on him yet.
That's all I mean, folks.
There's really nothing more.
Now, as to my second inaugural address, I was shocked that CPAC even decided to meet the next year after my first one.
See Russ, that's why the 24 year old girls don't like you.
You just, you just, you're just so bracked-docious and you're so sure of yourself.
You just, and they know you mean it.
Yeah, I do.
But I'm nevertheless teasing.
There would have to be a venue for it.
That, the CPAC speech, I had no idea what I was going to say specifically.
I mean, I'm driving.
I never do.
I never plan.
I just don't.
I'm not capable of it.
I can't brainstorm.
My mind really comes alive when I'm actually in the middle of doing something.
But when we're driving in from the airport to the CPAC Hotel and somebody said something in the car, that's it.
I'll treat this as my first address to the nation.
And then it all just started flowing from that.
Up until that time, I just was wondering what I was going to say too.
So now, when am I going to do the next one?
And that's a good question.
I've thought about it.
Folks, I've toyed with the idea of going to the networks and saying, I want to buy 30 minutes.
I actually have.
I've not pulled a trigger on it, but I actually have as a means of trying to reach people who don't listen to radio or who do but don't because of their preconceived, incorrectly formed, bigoted reasons.
But I've just never pulled it.
I don't know if I approached him if they would sell the time.
Snerdley's saying it should be cheap on NBC.
Yeah, but it's me calling.
Now, if you offer to do it in the summertime, they might take it.
I don't know.
Don't say anything about this to anybody.
I haven't decided.
I'm just sharing with you a random thought that bounces around inside my cranial cavity.
How about a what?
A university venue.
No, no, no.
What would happen to me with an audience?
I'd need an Army division for security on a university campus.
Are you kidding?
That'd be undermined before I got there.
A university?
Are you serious about that?
This cannot have, I don't think it can have a live audience.
That no, no, no.
Being a distraction.
I don't know.
That's what I said.
We'd have to think about it.
And folks, please don't tell anybody about it because it's just between you and me, and I'm not at all.
I mean, I'm no further on it than what I've just told you.
Just, it's an idea I've toyed with for years.
You know, sit around late at night.
The dogs have gone to sleep.
Everybody else is in bed, sitting there with your adult beverage, and mine starts flowing.
This is one of those kind of spur-of-the-moment ideas that pop up now and then.
A brief timeout.
Just looked at the format.
Clock will be back after this.
Back to the phones.
We go to New York, Albany.
This is Bruce, and welcome, sir, to EIB Network.
Hi.
How are you, Rush?
Good.
Thank you.
Good.
Very interesting.
It seems like the open-minded and tolerant left, of course they are.
Chris Broussard last night on Outside the Lines after Collins came out with his revelation.
So they did, you know, the Outside the Lines special, and they had Chris Broussard on.
And in case you don't know who that is, he's there.
He's one of their NBA reporters, like the Chris Mortensen, if you will, of the NBA.
And with the playoffs and everything going on.
Anyway, so they asked him about Collins and, you know, being in the locker room, et cetera.
And Broussard talked about how, you know, there are a lot of religious players.
And in the Bible, it says homosexuality is a sin, etc.
And very interesting.
No, Chris Broussard has been seen since then.
Yeah.
He's been retracting his tweets all day long and he's apologizing for his misunderstood.
I saw this happen.
I watched Broussard say this and I said, look, I really respect him for saying it.
Does he not know what happened to the 49ers player during the Super Bowl?
49er player says the same thing, and the league shut down the Super Bowl until this guy got his mind right, then they put it back, resumed practice.
I mean, everything came to a screeching halt.
I forget this guy, Chris, something or other for the 49ers, young kid, said, I don't want any of that stuff in our locker room.
Up, up, wait a minute, cancel Super Bowl practice.
I got to deal with this kid.
They did.
He apologized.
A couple of other people have said things on ESPN that they've been.
Oh, who was the black reporter who, oh, can't remember his name, but he, this was a big one.
They suspended him and they fired him for 30 days.
I forget who and what, but I couldn't believe the guy went out and said it, knowing what ESPN does with people who speak out against popular culture things.
ESPN does not tolerate people speaking out against what is big in the popular culture.
They just don't.
Here's what he said.
Grabs on by 10.
This is an outside the lines yesterday on ESPN.
The host was Steve Weissman.
The writer here is Chris Broussard, who writes for ESP in the magazine.
And I asked him about Jason Collins coming out and said, you're a Christian.
Chris, what's your take on this?
Living that type of lifestyle, then the Bible says you know them by their fruits.
It says that, you know, that's a sin.
And if you're openly living in unrepentant sin, whatever it may be, not just homosexuality, adultery, fornication, premarital sex between heterosexuals, whatever it may be, I believe that's walking in open rebellion to God and to Jesus Christ.
So I would not characterize that person as a Christian because I don't think the Bible would characterize him as a Christian.
Well, you say he hadn't been heard from since then.
I don't know about that, but I do know that he's on whatever it is, Twitter or Facebook, walking it back a little bit.
But he said, look, I don't care what you keep talking about, extramarital sex, premarital, promised beauty, heterosexual.
I don't care.
He made that point.
But ESPN is, they're not going to support.
This is the point.
Everybody's talking, we got to be tolerant and accepting, but nobody is.
Whatever's this one, popular culture demands that we bend over and pay homage to this player coming out.
And if you don't do that, you don't get tolerance and understanding.
You get something else.
It was predictable.
The minute I saw this, I knew what was going to happen.
Isn't that the whole point of freedom?
Isn't tolerance tolerating people who disagree with you?
So Jason Collins comes out and he's gay.
And whoever publicly doesn't sign on to it has to be silenced, maybe punished, fired, penalized.
So there is no freedom with liberals.
There is only demands that you think exactly as they do.
And if you don't, they'll call you divisive and disruptive.
And you be patient, folks.
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