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April 23, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 23, 2013, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Yeah, this is one of those days.
I mean, I've had so much going on here, I really don't know what the first thing I'm gonna start with is.
No, I've done I just it's just been incredible here.
I've got it all, I'm ready to go.
It's gonna be cool, folks.
Everything, everything is fine.
I actually know where I'm starting.
I just but I didn't a few minutes ago.
I had so much going on here.
Well, you know, stuff that has nothing to do with the show, but I have to get it done anyway.
Great to have you here, Rush Limbaugh, the EIB network of the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Tim my dilemma is I've got other stuff here, but the um the news out of Boston continues to roll out.
There's more news about Joe Carr and uh Tamerlin uh Sarnaev.
And you know, it's everywhere.
We're trying to be a little unique on this program, but I am unique, and so therefore it really doesn't matter.
What is discussed?
Because until I've talked about it, you really haven't heard it.
Right?
Telephone numbers 800 28282 and the email address El Rushbo at EIBNet.com.
The media and a pundits are all wondering openly where the Sanaya brothers became radicalized.
They're wringing their hands out there.
They're trying desperately to figure it out.
Where did they pick up their anti-America anti-Christian notions?
Did it happen in Chechnya?
Did it happen in the home?
Did it happen in America?
Did it happen on the internet?
They're all trying to figure it out.
Well, let me try well try this.
One of the more disturbing interviews that I have heard was with a man in Cambridge who knew Tamerlin Sarnayev.
This guy said that Tamerlin Sanaev often engaged in anti-American rants.
It was common to hear this guy riff on what a rotten place America is.
So they asked this guy, well, why didn't you ever say anything about it?
You know what this guy in Cambridge said?
He said, Well, Tamerlin's rants are so commonplace in Cambridge that he didn't think there was anything out of the ordinary.
And I believe it.
Cambridge, of course, is the home of Harvard.
And I made reference to this yesterday.
Actually, on Friday.
Thursday, my last day last week here.
Well, last Thursday when this was going down.
Everybody back then, even how did I get radicalized?
When did this happen?
What do you think education in America is today?
We talk about it here all the time.
The fact that America's a racist, sexist, bigoted country, that it's homophobic, that all of that was brought to this country by Western Europeans when they came and displaced the Native Americans.
Um the multiculturalists have taken over the curricula in in many levels of education here and teach that this country was founded immorally, unfairly, unjustly, and this is nothing new.
You don't have to leave this country to be taught how rotten it is.
And everybody knows this.
And in fact, the people are out there wringing their hands over this, they know it too.
And in many cases, the people wringing their hands happen to have the same views as Tamarlin Sarnaevda to one degree or another.
I mean, I can turn on certain cable networks in here and absolute disgust for this country day in and day out.
Where do you think our president got his views of this country?
He I guarantee you has a chip on his shoulder about it.
Why does he find a book by Saul Olinsky called Rules for Radicals?
So intriguing.
Why does why does Obama why did he want to become a community organizer?
What's that all about?
It's all about being rooted in the belief that this country isn't right.
That this country needs to be fixed, that This country set up for a select few, and it was founded that way.
It's been run that way, and the select few have been engineering things so that they get everything, and we've run around the world and we've stolen everything that we've wanted from around the world, and the people around the world are poor while we've gotten rich because we've stolen something.
I mean, this is commonplace.
And then you add to that whatever this guy might hear in a mosque, and it really isn't that hard to figure out where he got radicalized.
But is that even the point?
Where?
I mean, to a certain extent it could be.
I think the fact that we're sowing the seeds of our own problems is a is a serious matter here.
But the fact that that people are becoming radicalized in this country is a fact.
Does anybody remember why legal immigration was dramatically reduced by Congress in the early 1920s?
Folks, I've told this story before, but not in a while.
My grandfather lived to be 1040 born in the 1890s.
And before he died, when I would travel back home to Cape Girardeau and talk with him.
He never listened to the radio program because it just hearing was uh was difficult and uh it was it was a difficult thing for him to do.
So you asked me, what's happening on your radio show?
What are people talking about?
And at this this time, and this is in the early 90s.
I said, Pop, we all called him Bob.
I said, Pop, everybody out there is worked up over immigration.
They're just beside themselves over what's happening in a country because immigration.
He said, you know, at the normal school, which is what the university was called when he went to it, Cape Girardo in the early 1900s, he described for me the debate topic that he had to prepare for.
In the early 1900s, resolved immigration of Eastern and Western Europeans should be suspended because they're filthy, dirty, rotten, and bringing crime and infestation and so forth to the country.
He said, This is nothing new.
This has been going on since before I was born.
Early era of my life, nothing new about it, and he tried to tell me how these things are just cyclical and how nothing really changes.
So I began to check the history of this for myself.
And it is true, legal immigration in the early 1920s was dramatically reduced by Congress, not opened up.
Dramatically reduced, and do you know why?
Anyone remember why?
Because of all the bombings and the general terrorism from anarchists and communists and other radical eastern and southern Europeans.
It was so common, it became a cliche in the movies of that period.
The radical with the bowling ball-like black bomb with the burning fuse.
So we have a history in this country of this kind of thing happening before, just from different areas of the world, and our immigration being dramatically reduced because of it.
Now we're in a different era now.
Now we want to vastly expand it.
The more intelligent you are, the more educated you are, the harder it is to get into America, go figure.
It is.
So there are dramatic similarities, while at the same time, dramatic differences in the way the country is approaching the problem.
And we're being told, no, no, I think this is crucial.
I mean, I think it is extremely important.
You have a guy in Cambridge.
We had an audio soundbite from a guy yesterday who said that, well, yeah, he heard all this terrorism stuff coming out of the mouths of the Saniye brothers.
But he didn't say anything because, well, you know, I don't want anybody dumping on these guys.
They're Muslims.
This country is biased against Muslims.
I didn't want to add...
So there's another guy who heard these guys ranting about how much they hate this country and what their plans are and what they'd love to happen and so forth.
And I'm not going to tell anybody because these guys are Muslims and this country's biased against where the guy picked that idea up, do you think?
That we are biased and prejudiced against Muslims.
Well, he's not going to tell the authorities about it.
Now here is another guy in Cambridge who knew Tamerlin.
And said that he he often engaged in anti-American rants and didn't do anything about it because it was so commonplace that he didn't think it was anything out of the ordinary.
And everybody in Cambridge talks this way.
Everybody's a radical.
Everybody's a revolutionary.
Everybody's got a beef.
So there was nothing special about it.
And we're now being told that the FBI did not know about Tamerlin's trip to Russia because his name was misspelled on the passenger list.
Tamerlin left America, went to Russia.
See here, the old man, old man Sernaev, in Dagestan, applies for political asylum.
Sixty minutes did a piece on this many, many, many moons ago.
If you want to get into this country, it's easy.
Just claim or request political asylum.
I.e.
you are fleeing political persecution.
And you're granted it.
It's almost automatic.
Get off the airplane at JFK.
You walk through customs and claim that you want asylum, and they grant it to you, and you're turned loose, and they don't even track you.
You're seldom followed.
Kept track of.
So old man Sanaev applies for and is granted political asylum because things are so rotten in Dagestan.
And six months after having been granted political asylum, he heads back to Dagestan, but he's still there.
So people are now thinking maybe one of the techniques of radical Islamists is citizenship.
Political asylum, automatic entry into the country.
Don't have to worry about the southern border.
Get in here, claim political asylum, and then start your path to citizenship that way.
Old man Sanaev got political asylum and then went back.
This horrible place, politically oppressing him.
He went back to and stayed there.
Now why?
Why would somebody come here to apply for political asylum, have it granted, and then go back to the place that's so horrible.
They wanted to leave.
And Tamerlin went back to visit him.
Which is the point in the FBI were being told, now the FBI didn't know about his trip to Russia, Dagestan, Chechnya, because his name was misspelled on the passenger list.
How can you misspell your name on a flight?
Don't you have to produce a photo ID for security?
How does you stop and think of what we're being?
We lost track of this guy because of the misspelling of a name, and we're being told it ain't gonna be a big problem to legalize 11 million, or whatever the number is, illegal immigrants.
We're also told the FBI wasn't allowed to keep tabs on him after they questioned him.
He told them he wasn't a terrorist, so they weren't able to keep tabs on him.
Well, he said he wasn't a terrorist.
Who would admit being a terrorist?
Well, I don't know, but this guy didn't.
And so we're told the FBI wasn't allowed to keep tabs on him.
I don't know why Jochar didn't try that.
He could have avoided all kinds of trouble, just tell him you're not a terrorist.
It's even better than saying you're just known to the influence of your big brother.
You notice also that the news media are doing to Jokar what they did to Trayvon Martin.
They're regularly showing a photo of Jokar that was taken when he was about 14.
Soft, angelic, nice, little boy, harmless, cute, big lovable eyes.
Not at all what he looks like today.
The way whenever we're shown Osama bin Laden, it's in his shepherd pose with his walking stick, walking through the mountains or wherever.
But the news media seemed to be making him look like an innocent little angel.
Who was totally willing to drive over his own beloved brother to try to get away.
Rib is killing spree.
Anyway, we have um immigration debate going on.
We have Obama raising taxes on everybody, internet sales tax now.
More on the brothers and the Boston bombing circumstance.
All kinds of stuff to get into today, as uh as well as your telephone calls, so you sit tight, we'll come back and continue with all the rest of today's program right after this.
The latest theme, by the way, the Boston bombing brothers is that they couldn't possibly have any connections with a larger conspiracy.
Nope, just a couple of radicalized kids happen to be Muslims, but they're not connected in any way with a larger conspiracy.
Why would anybody believe that?
After all, again, Tamerlin did go and stay in Dagestan.
Dagestan, but you have to understand Dagestan, Chechnya, these are basically countries run by thugs and gangs.
That's why Putin hates them.
Putin will wipe him out if he could.
These guys are rebels, revolutionaries, they hate the Russians.
Putin hates these guys.
Dagestan's a hotbed of Muslim terrorists.
Local Dagestan police source reported claims that Tamerlin met least six times with an underground militant there.
But for forget about the technical knowledge that it would take to make the kind of devices they had.
Where'd they get the money?
Where'd they get the money for their cars, for their clothes?
Tamerlin's trip to Russia, you know, as I said yesterday, I'm somebody who pays for everything I do and everything I have, and I wonder how did the these guys didn't have jobs.
Where did they get the money for all of this?
Guys bragging about his Mercedes and Porsche, where'd they get the money?
And why do we want to be so eager?
What what what's the point in lying to ourselves in in in telling us that no one was helping them?
Just because Jokar said so?
The AP has a story.
Two U.S. officials say preliminary evidence from an interrogation suggests the suspects in the Boston Marathon attack were motivated by religion, but were not tied to any Islamic terror groups.
The two ethnic Chechen brothers practiced Islam.
U.S. officials spoke Monday on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the investigation, yet they were.
Preliminary evidence.
Bombers motivated by religion but acted alone.
Why are we so eager?
You know, with political correctness is reared its head here.
We have a story we hope is true.
Official Washington has a story at hopes it's true.
I mean, and of course the libs are out there.
They were panicked over the fact that the terrorists were not white.
Quick audio soundbite.
This is we have a montage here.
Drive-by media trying to take the edge off of this by uh referring to Joe Carr.
Just a kid, same thing they're doing with the photo of this guy.
This kid seemed to be out of place in Boston.
He seemed to be alienated.
He's 19 years old.
He's still a kid, he's still a teenager.
It's not as if you look at this kid in his background as the hardship that could have turned his heart hard.
He was a seemingly normal college kid.
Remember, this is a kid who is on a ventilator.
Why is it that one kid is susceptible And not another.
All American kid smoked pot, went to parties, totally normal kid.
What seems to be a normal kid in high school on the wrestling team to being radicalized.
This is a mixed up kid.
Yeah, that's all it is.
It's a mixed up kid.
Totally normal American kid out there smoking pot.
Watching YouTube, driving around in his Porsche, not liking America, totally normal kid.
Nothing to see here.
Very sad, in fact.
This poor kid, he's got a he's got a tube down his throat.
Just a normal college kid.
His kid's on a ventilator.
My God, we need to feel sorry for him.
Why do we do this?
Why in the world do we do?
Why do we take what we know is truth and reality and try to hide from it?
How does that help anything?
I want you to stop and think for a minute here, folks, what the media is telling us.
About Jokar, Sanaev.
Is this a normal college kid?
Doesn't that not bother anybody?
A normal college kid is capable of putting together a pressure cooker bomb, setting it to explode at the Boston Marathon, injuring hundreds and killing a few people.
Normal college kid.
This is how this stuff ends up getting bastardized.
This is how we end up thinking.
How we end up not thinking ill of bad people.
It's just a normal con normal college kids do not do this.
Radical college kids do this.
And by the way, this guy is not a kid.
The boy he killed is a kid.
This guy is not a kid, he's 19 years old, he's not a kid, and he's not a normal kid.
Smokes marijuana, watches YouTube videos, sits around with his brother talking about how much he hates America.
Yeah, just a normal kid.
Then he goes and makes a couple of bombs and blows up the Boston Merit.
Yeah, just a normal kid.
I'm sorry, that offends me.
That offends my sensibility.
He's not a normal kid.
There's nothing normal about this, and we don't want it to be normal.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan defining deviancy down.
When a culture is unable to stop a deviant activity, or a criminal activity, or a perverted activity.
They simply say, well, this is the new normal, and you move on.
Defining deviancy down.
The normal college kid.
Can't believe he would do this.
A normal con He's not a normal kid.
He's not a kid.
He is a terrorist.
Not a Limbaugh, he said that he wasn't a terrorist.
Yeah, I know.
He said he wasn't, so that's what we go on.
Alan Dershowitz.
The famed law professor at Harvard.
The famed practicing lawyer defended Klaus von Bullock who was accused of murdering his wife Sonny von Bulow.
Said, I don't understand the way some people on the left glorify American terrorists.
Professor Dershowitz was on a television show on Newsmax hosted by our good buddy Steve Maulsburg.
And Dershowitz pointed out the hypocrisy that he hears.
He talked to a little point we made here to Kathy Bowden or Bowden, however you pronounce her name.
A murderer, a terrorist, domestic terrorist in the same vein as Bill Ayers, now teaching at Columbia.
Angela Davis, well known terrorist, distinguished career teacher, distinguished career teaching, distinguished heirs and his wife.
Dershowitz, these are all people who were terrorists.
So Molzberg said, Well, would you agree there's no difference between them and this kid, Joe Kartz and Iev?
And Dershowitz said, Well, they're much worse because they're much better educated, meaning Kathy Bowden heirs Angela Davis, they're much better educated.
They had all the privileges in the world.
So I see them as much, much worse.
And I don't understand the way some people on the left glorify American terrorists without realizing that it's indistinguishable morally from the kinds of terrorism we're condemning here.
I just don't buy it.
Now, Dershowitz is a leftist.
Dershowitz is a liberal.
And he said, I don't understand what it is.
Why do we glorify these guys?
That's exactly what we're in the process of doing here, slowly but surely.
Some on the left who happen to be people in the media are trying to diminish who the Sanaya brothers are, particularly Joe Kart, and they're doing everything they can to just a kid, normal American college kid, nothing to see here.
And then express shock and surprise that he didn't build a bomb out of a pressure cooker and kill people.
And what's the elephant in the room that nobody wants to notice?
Anybody say Islam?
Can anybody say Muslim?
Can anybody say Chechna?
Can anybody say Dagestan?
Can anybody say radical?
It's right there.
Nobody wants to see it or admit it, at least on the left.
And so their hatred or their disgust or their dislike for this country is so intense that they glorify these people.
And Dershowitz doesn't understand it.
Understand why some people on the left glorify American terrorists.
Take a look at who those people are, Professor.
And take a look at what they think of this country in the first.
Many of them think this country deserves this, Professor.
Robert Redford.
Robert Redford has a movie out right now.
Glorifying the weather underground.
It's called a company you keep.
And he's not promoting it.
He was on Good Morning America on uh April 2nd, three weeks ago.
And George Stephanopoulos was gushing over this movie because it's Redford.
Redford turns all these people into groupies.
Redford shows up Good Morning America.
Stephanopoulos starts gushing about the new movie, The Company You Keep.
It's about a weather underground activist.
And and Redford said to Stephanopoulos, man, you ought to get on the marketing here for this movie.
I mean, you're really selling this movie.
They're already saying the Redford movie's going to mop up at the Oscars.
And what is it?
It glorifies terrorism, glorifies people who kill Americans, glorifies people who take action against oppressive white America.
That's what all this domestic terrorism is about.
And we have people who say, Well, I don't understand.
He's a normal kid.
I don't understand why he would do this.
Not a normal kid, he's not a kid.
The boy he killed is the kid.
Let's listen to a couple more audio sound bites that fit into this theme.
David Remnick, who is the editor of New Yorker.
The magazine was on with Charlie Rose on PBS last night.
Now David Remnick lives in a liberal fantasy world.
And he's out there trying to figure out why the bombers did it.
He's struggling with why the bombers did it.
Charlie Rose says, you wanted to know what you wanted to know why they did it.
I want to know what anybody wants to know.
You see these two schmucky looking guys in baseball caps and one's just out of high school and then uh kind of a not-so-great college student.
One kid is 26 and he's a boxer, and people know them.
You want to form a picture.
You want to understand.
This is not a question was getting hammered on Twitter by some right-wing groups that somehow I was sympathetic with them.
This is ridiculous.
Sympathetic with people who do something so horrendous and cruel and kill people and had plans for more.
But there's the human impulse to want to try to understand the maybe something that's impossible to understand.
You know what's rooted in this wanting to understand?
Because frankly, I don't care why people commit crimes.
I frankly am not interested.
They're perverts, they're psychopaths, they're sociopaths.
I don't care why they did it.
I want them punished.
But these guys want to find out because in their minds there must be some justification for it.
There's got to be some reason they did it that makes sense.
And then they make the move into what is it about us that they hate?
Or what is it about America that they hate that would justify this?
And we do seminars.
Why do they hate us?
Seminars, trying to examine why social sociopaths and psychopaths hate us.
Or in this case, a couple of radicalized Muslims.
It's it answers itself, but that can't be because no.
The narrative is that Islam has nothing to do with this.
The narrative is that uh Muslims have nothing to do with this.
The uh narrative is these guys are Lone Wolves acting on their own.
Why did they we don't care, Mr. Remnick.
Mr. Limbaugh, do you really not kid I mean if you knew why these kids did it, then maybe we could stop it in the future.
No, no, because if we find out you guys are gonna construct a reason that justifies why they did it.
That's where you guys are headed on the left.
It justifies it, and in no way are you guys gonna be responsible for doing anything that stops this.
I guarantee them to you, nothing anybody on the left is gonna do that'll stop this.
They're gonna look for ways to justify it, to explain it.
Because for whatever perverted reason, they don't like this country either.
So they're curious.
What is it?
And you get this, what's this rivets?
Some Tea Party groups.
Now, Charlie Rose said, look, they they had a grievance.
Did he feel uh is a failure or that somebody was misjudging him?
There have been psychological studies about young men between, I don't know, 15 to their mid-twenties, and some vast number of crimes and awful things happen because of the disaffection of and the inability for young men for whatever reason, psychological or biological, to make good decisions.
So it's not unusual to see a disaffected 19-year-old or a disaffected 25-year-old guy.
Again, we have to admit what we don't know, and what we don't know is how disaffection or even interest in radical ideas leads to an evil act.
You don't?
May or maybe.
How in the world can you not know that?
And sometimes that's the stuff of novelists.
I mean, you can only find it out when you make it up.
You don't always know.
It does not take a novelist to discover their motivations or make them up.
Motivations are clear.
I can't believe he said this.
Well, again, Charlie, we have to admit that we don't know.
And what we don't know is how disaffection or even interest in radical ideas leads to an evil act.
You don't know how interest in radical ideas leads to an evil act.
You certainly have no trouble when you start imagining all the stuff the Tea Party never did.
It's unbelievable.
And this is a leading light of the liberal elite in the literary culture of New York.
And what we don't know is how disaffection or even interest in radical ideas leads to an evil act.
That may or may not be determined, and sometimes that's the stuff of novelists.
No, it's not, it's right there in the middle of the room.
You just don't want to admit it.
Remnick, by the way, is the guy who called Tea Party supporters racists.
You know what he said?
This is the guy who said, you'll remember this.
When you hear people at Tea party saying I want my country back.
I've lost my country.
Something's being said there very often.
It has to do with race.
It has to do with otherness.
It has to do with a nostalgia for an imagined America some time ago.
So they've got all the vitriol in the world that they're harboring for conservatives.
And they got no problem believing that conservatives would do this kind of stuff.
Because every time it happens, they admit openly, my God, I hope a white guy did this because that's who I know wants to do it.
Boy, I know the bitter clickers and those Tea Party people, I know they want an America that never was, and they want to blow things up to get it.
Yet that never happens.
And reality stares them in the face, and they just can't come to grips with it.
People who, if they're voting, vote Democrat are doing this kind of stuff.
Certainly not voting Republican.
Let's take a brief time out.
Don't go away, folks.
Edward back, Rush Limbaugh and the excellence and broadcasting network, Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Let's go to Albany in New York.
This Peggy.
Peggy, thank you for calling.
Great to have you here.
Thank you.
Um, Rush, I'm calling about, I believe that the president is in denial about terrorism.
And he's been that way from the beginning.
Yes, he has drones that come across and and do the deeds that have to be done, but that's because he has to answer to some career people.
But if you take Fort Hood, Benghazi, the fourth Dix uh six people, the recruiter that was killed in Arkansas, the Times Square bomber.
Okay, he wasn't successful, but the other people were.
They are all in the same category.
These are jihadists who come from Islamic countries, not Isla all Islamics are are bad, obviously, comes from Islamic countries who want to kill us.
They hate us.
I'm a woman.
I have freedom.
I can do whatever I want.
Why do they hate us?
People want to know.
Because they hate us because of our freedom.
Yeah.
Because I have the freedom.
You know that these people hate female athletes as much as they do females in a bikini.
Oh, yeah.
They do.
Now let me You said you think the president is in denial.
Yes, absolutely.
He does not want to admit that there is terrorism.
We saw that.
He has these views of America that are I hate to say it because I don't um he's our president, and I want to respect him, but other people have said this and got in trouble, but he's not like a real American.
I can't explain it, but Yeah, you can.
You just wisely don't want to say it.
And I know but look at I don't think he's in denial.
Well, he doesn't want to prosecute these people like that.
Well, that's true, but it's not because he's in denial.
It's because he's trying to convince everybody Al Qaeda's on the run.
He's trying to convince everybody he's defeated terrorism.
He's trying to convince everybody for the advancement of his agenda that we beat it back.
Remember, this guy wants to cut the defense budget dramatically.
Um what what did Obama talk about in his remarks?
The need for diversity.
If we just if we're more diverse, we'll send a message that the terrorists don't need to attack us.
He not only does he try to create the impression he's defeated it, he actually wants don't forget who he is.
This messianic conflicts.
He thinks, still, I think, that he can talk them out of it.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Because he's a good guy.
He's the first good guy this country's ever really had.
And if he just has a chance to talk to them, what Cairo speech, that they'll go away.
They'll realize we're not a threat, that we love them, we have no intention of harm them, and they'll stand down.
And therefore the only people that commit terrorism be white guys that do videos that we'll put in jail.
Well, he got away with it in Benghazi with the whole Benghazi thing right before the election.
And he got away with it with Fort Hood saying workplace violence.
I mean, some of this stuff makes me so angry because so many people in my family have been in the military.
I know what you mean by in Denial.
But d denial means he's not seeing reality.
He knows full well what's going on.
He's trying to make sure that you don't see it that way.
His purpose is to talk you out of believing what you just said you believe here.
That's the objective.
And I gotta take a break.
We'll be back.
So Obama promised, he'd been promising for five years, that any tax increase would only be on the top, what, one percent.
Well, guess what?
Everybody's gonna get sucked if Obama gets what he wants in the budget, including an internet sales tax.
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