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March 13, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 13, 2013, Wednesday, Hour #3
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Okay, see, let's see here.
Okay, um.
Yeah, yeah, I just got these.
Looks like have sound bites uh twenty-eight, twenty-nine thirty standing by.
And did we get any smoke?
No, no, because smoke could come at any you know what?
If the Vatican's smart and not gonna be any smoke for a while, how much money are they making with all these media people over there?
Six thousand media credentials?
Anyway, greetings and welcome back.
Great to have you here, Rush Limbaugh on the F uh uh uh uh is that it?
Is that white or black?
We got smoke, we got white smoke, yes, because the cheers are occurring in St. Peter's Square.
So there it is.
Not even the rain can eliminate the white smoke.
So a three-day conclave.
And the new Vicar of Christ has been chosen by the College of Cardinals of the Catholic Church, right as the third busy broadcast hour begins here on the EIB network.
How about that timing?
And we didn't have to send anybody there to be able to report this news to you.
Happy to have you with us, folks.
800 282-2882, if you want to be on the program.
I want to go back to Robert in South Lake, Texas.
I don't want you to have to hold on any longer than uh than you already have.
But I want I want to start at the beginning.
You um uh you're still there, I trust.
Yes, okay.
You lifelong Democrat, you used to think that I was just a a blow hard windbag.
Did you think that actually listening to me, or just because what people had told you about me?
Uh I I thought that because the news stations and everybody around me, most of all my constituents, that's all you ever heard.
You know, they're just far-right kooks and you know, you have CNN ABC.
Okay, let me ask you this, this, Robert, you may not remember this, but back um even right before Obama was inaugurated in 2009, this would it would have been the middle of January, and it got a lot of coverage.
I openly said that I hope he fails.
And of course, the media ran with that as saying I was being unpatriotic.
Nobody ever wants their president to fail.
That's like Limbaugh saying he wants America to fail.
And I wanted America to be spared.
I wanted America not to not to fail and not to be harmed.
And I I feared that Obama succeeding would result in America's failure, and it's happening.
Now did you hear me or were were you did you hear that reported about what I had said back then?
And if so, did that make you mad at me?
Yeah, yes, it did, because uh the media didn't want to come right out and say it, but they were suggesting that you said that because you were a racist.
You're a far-right kook.
Right.
And I know that not to be true.
But you didn't then.
You didn't then.
So back then you were you were all caught up in the fervor, and you were hoping, as you said, that Obama would be a uh a counter a counter-role model for young African American youths instead of the the gangster rappers that they look to now.
Exactly.
Now, how long uh did it take for you to become disappointed with Obama, what you were hoping for?
Uh how long did it take you to realize it wasn't happening?
I'm not really sure.
I I think maybe a couple of years after into his presidency, I started noticing a trend that everything that he was doing, he was blaming others.
He wasn't taking responsibility.
Now, a role model is a person that I wanted for black Americans, the young black Americans, the ones they feel uh disenchanted and disenfranchised, all that, to have someone to look up to, and when you look up to a person as a role model, the first thing at the top of the list is a sense of responsibility, ownership of what you're doing.
But he blames everybody else, not himself.
It's amazing, isn't it?
And he gets away with it.
I mean, he's been president now for over four years, and none of what's happened attaches to him because he's out there making everybody think He's opposing it, fighting it, trying to fix it, and these powerful forces elsewhere keep sandbagging him.
But he's still working hard.
He doesn't want to raise the deficit.
He's gonna cut everybody's taxes, gonna give them health care, but some of it just not happening, but he's not getting blamed for it.
So at some point for you, the bloom came off the road, and all of a sudden, all of us conservative blowhards and windbags, you started changing your tune on.
Why?
What was the catalyst for that?
When you said the Limbaugh theorem and the sequestration, I said, Oh, I've not had enough of this.
That that that did it.
Well, that was just that was just a couple weeks ago.
Yes, but that really did it.
I was moving in that direction maybe seven, eight, nine months ago, right before his election, and uh and I didn't vote for him the second time.
I and I didn't vote for Romney because Romney started off okay, then he started migrating left, and I didn't like that.
So I said to hell with both of them.
But I'm just through with the Democratic Party.
If the Democratic Party is going to be the party of huge government, I work for a living.
No one's giving me anything.
I don't mind helping anyone that needs help.
I don't mind helping the veterans or the disabled or or or or the age, but for people to sit around and expect for me to work and they take my money and give it to them, because Obama seems to be conveying to them.
Don't worry about it.
Blame others for your problems because I'm gonna give you some of theirs anyway.
I don't like that at all.
Well, are you um uh alone in this or do you have uh no, my whole family.
I mean, I have a lot of constituents, a lot of friends, and I've been talking to them, and I we now I listen to you, Mark Levine, I listen to Sean Hannity on on on uh uh WPAP every day now, and they're starting to listen, and we're talking, we're tweeting back and forth, and I don't believe that the uh Tea Party, I don't know about the GOP because they got some problems over there.
The Tea Party Patriots, the true conservative, I don't think they don't have to worry about um getting the White House in 2016.
Well, the focus right now is the House of Representatives in 2014.
No, that's not gonna happen.
You don't have to worry about that.
They're not gonna take control of the House in 2014.
Trust me.
Obama keeps doing what he's doing, he's gonna probably lose the Senate too.
Well, the only problem with that is that there's a party in this equation that if anybody could lose it, they could.
And it uh they're called the Republicans.
I I know I don't know what's wrong with them.
I I mean I used to have a lot of people.
Well, I'll tell you what's right.
Let me, Robert, they're afraid that if they criticize Obama in a in a proper and just way that people like you are gonna never vote for him, and that you're gonna hate them and that you're gonna think they're racists.
So no, no, no, no, not not at all.
Because let me tell you the the the irony and the beauty of of that is uh let me just step back for a minute.
Obama is half black and half white.
You cannot say you no one can be labeled a racist because we have five years of proof of what this man is doing or what he's not doing, and what type of person he is.
And like I said before, there's something sinister about this man.
No one's gonna label them a racist.
Our eyes are wide open now.
We're m many of us are not low information voters anymore, and we're not we're not beholding to the party anymore.
Robert, how many people are you speaking for here when you say we are not gonna be fooled anymore and we are not low information voters anymore?
Who are you talking about?
Many Democrats, I mean, many.
I mean, I I I uh I'm part owner of KRL Financial Group.
Many of us, my whole neighborhood, I live in South Lake, my whole neighborhood, we're walking, we're talking, everybody's saying the same thing.
We do not want to sit here and be robbed by a government for nothing.
They're giving our money away to any and everybody.
I mean, I wouldn't know what I have.
Is it true you're to just two years ago you felt just the exact opposite?
That's correct, because two years ago I was thinking this man was in there to try to help the disenfranchise.
He's gonna be a good role model, he was gonna bring blacks, whites, uh, Orientals, Hispanics, everybody together, and it it hasn't happened that way.
Uh unfortunately, I'm I I hate to say it, but he's probably the worst president, and I'm fifty-five years old, worst president I've ever seen.
And I've been through the days and the Los Angeles riots and the 60s and the 70s and 80s and the 90s, and and I I I just I've had enough of this.
This is not going to help us.
It is destroying us.
Well, I don't I don't disagree.
I'm just I'm I'm uh well I'm happy to hear what you're saying, it just surprises me.
I'm I'm hoping that these kinds of things are happening.
Robert, you know, this the reason, see uh none of what's happening to me, and by the way, don't misunderstand this is not a criticism.
I uh at all.
But none of what's happening is a surprise to me.
Uh uh because he's a liberal.
I know who they are.
I know what they doesn't matter.
Obama or Al Gore or Hillary or they're they're all of the same bent.
And so none of this surprises me.
Um I've been frustrated, I've been frustrated that so many Americans don't see it because it's so easy.
It's not hard to see the truth here.
And you finally have, and and you call here and you tell me that there are lots of people now with their eyes open.
And I hope that you're right.
I see his approval numbers falling in the polls, but I don't I don't want to attach too much weight to that because you know they could just as quickly change tomorrow.
No, it's real.
Trust me, it's real, and I live in Texas, and Texas is real red.
It is real.
Well, I know that's the point, Texas.
If if you were calling me from San Francisco or Los Angeles, it might be even more impactful.
But you already live in a red state.
But but m the all the people who are moving here are from California and New York and Detroit and Chicago and Atlanta.
They're moving to Texas.
Why do you think everybody's running to Texas?
Let me warn you about that.
On one hand, that's something to be proud of, but those people are not going to become conservatives.
They're gonna come there and they're gonna be their good little liberal selves.
No, and they're gonna end up they're gonna end up turning Texas into California if you all aren't careful.
No, no.
I have some neighbors that came from San Diego, Los Angeles, and the Bay Area, and they were Democrats.
They are now conservative.
They they left California because they don't want to turn into California.
Well, that's that's good, but just keep it in the back of your mind because you know, in Florida, we've we've had an influx of people from the Northeast, and they come down here and they're still liberals when it they're fleeing liberalism, they're fleeing taxes, they're fleeing property taxes, they're fleeing the fact they can't afford to buy anything, but they come down here and they still elect Democrats and they still hang around and they still do all the stuff that that ended up turning their states blue.
You gotta keep a sharp eye on it, Robert.
Well, after Obama, you'll see that's not gonna happen because I think the trend is slowing down, and people are starting to say, oh no, we don't want any more of this.
Okay, what do you think about I got I've got a story here from the Washington examiner says that the Democrat dream ticket, 2016 Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama.
Is that a joke?
No, no, no.
I've it's it uh 2016 Hillary Michel dream ticket idea floated.
That would never happen.
Well, you are speaking with ontological certitude here, and I uh I'm I'm I wouldn't have thought any of this would ever happen to America in my lifetime, but it has.
Well, I think we got a long road back, Robert.
We have a long you could re reverse reversing some of this stuff is it could take a generation to reverse some of this stuff.
Obamacare, that's still a roll of the dice.
That's true.
Obamacare is ruined everybody, my even my insurance is on it.
But let me tell you something what is what happened.
Obama went too far.
If he had just eased into it, a little uh gradually, but he is kicking the walls down, he is running through everything like gangbusters, he he he is he is he's that's because he knows he's got Basically a year and a half here to get it done.
And after then, everybody focuses on 2014 and then the presidency in 2016.
So what his his grand strategy is to jam as much done, is get as much done as he can the next year and a half, have the Democrats win the House, have one party rule from 2014 on and not have to worry about any opposition.
Oh, that's not gonna happen, Rush.
Uh trust me.
I I understand what you're saying.
You have to have faith in us out here.
You're your radio host.
You're trying to inform people.
We are informed now.
That's not gonna happen.
Well, I hope you're right.
And I I I can't tell you how grateful I am that you're uh that you're in the audience, and I'm grateful that you got through.
It's been a it's been a delight to talk to you, Robert, and I thank you so much.
I've got to go.
I think another obscene profit time out here, but thank you very much.
I hope you have a great day and and and keep on.
You too.
See you later.
Be back after this, folks.
Don't go away.
What a great caller that guy was.
That kind of call gives you hope.
I got as host.
It um it gives me hope.
Folks, I'm just like you.
We sit out here and we know that we reach a lot of people.
Millions upon millions of people.
We also know we're outnumbered.
When you add up the number of people Hollywood reaches, and television shows reach, and books to a certain extent, music, uh, late-night comedy TV shows.
We're just simply outnumbered media-wise in that regard.
The whole objective here has been to create the largest informed citizenry, participatory citizenry possible.
I mean, if if there's been one objective to the program aside from the business requirements, you know, it's get a large audience and hold it.
But if you want to attach it like a mission statement, we want a large informed, educated, participating in the process population.
So calls like that are gratifying.
And he's confident when he says there's all kinds of people like him out there.
You know, on the other side of it, Obama's won two elections.
And we've had calls like that throughout these twenty-five years.
But at some point, one thing I know, if this country is going to be saved and the direction we're going turned around, it's going to require a bunch of robots being created or converting or what have you.
It's going to take that.
Millions of people are going to have to wake up.
Millions of low information, but he told us he was one.
Millions of them are going to have to wake up.
And when they see the truth, they're going to have to accept it.
And it's tough.
The presidency is a revered institution.
People do not want to think that their president lies.
People don't want to think or believe that their president would actually create policies that would hurt people.
It's the exact opposite.
People don't want to think that they've elected somebody that doesn't like the way this country was founded.
It's a really, really difficult thing to try to reach a typical Obama voter, a low-information voter, and have the lights go off, as it did with Robert.
And basically, just in the past seven or nine months...
Did he start his evolution?
And then interestingly, he could have been sucking up, but I don't think he didn't sound like that.
Didn't sound like a guy who sucks up.
But he could have been.
When he said, when I explained a limb theorem and the sequester is when the light went off for him.
Now that's gratifying to me.
I don't care what it is that causes people to uh wake up.
It's it has to happen, folks.
It has to happen.
That is what's going to create the the leadership in Washington.
I'm convinced it's going to have to bubble up in the grassroots.
Be right back, not going anywhere.
And we're back, El Rushbow here, the cutting edge of societal evolution.
Eyes are now on the papal balcony.
Outside the apartment where the Pope lives in the Vatican.
You know, it would it would be great if it was Cardinal Dolan.
Timothy Cardinal Dolan, New York Archdice.
It'd be it would be great.
And of course, it was being suggested earlier today by the drive-bys, I think last night that could be an American Pope because America's no longer big country anymore.
We no longer push people around so we could have a Pope.
Media was excited because they think uh an American Pope would signal the end of American superpower status.
And if you don't believe me, we've got a media montage of various media people talking about that very fact from yesterday, last night, and this morning.
In the old days, the idea used to be you can't have a Pope from the United States because you can't have a superpower Pope.
My experience of interviewing Catholic bishops from Africa is that when you say the word superpower to them, they don't think the United States, they think of China.
It's no longer the superpower can possibly give us a Pope.
I think people are looking to the great countries of Canada, United States.
You don't want to give the world's low superpower the papacy in addition to all the other things it already has control over.
Hearing from a lot of Vatican experts who are over there right now, that's much less in play this year.
The thing that used to keep an American cardinal from being picked was that America was a superpower.
In Europe, in Italy, they don't see us as quite the superpower we were.
How about that?
How about that was Peggy Noonan at the end.
The names here, uh John Allen of uh, let's see, John Allen uh CNN, Vatican spokesman, Father Thomas Rosica, Stephen White in the Ethics and Public Policy Center, and Peggy Noonan.
Those are the voices that you heard.
Yeah.
I don't think of America as superpowers.
I think China.
Yeah, Europe, Italy.
You can have an American Pope now because uh having an American Pope, we wouldn't be controlling everything like we used to.
I have to tell you, Obama hears soundbites like that.
He said, Mission accomplished.
Mission accomplished.
Let's go back to the phones.
Here is uh Cameron in Canaan, Connecticut.
It's great to have you on the program.
Hi.
Hey Rush, I'm still reeling from Robert from South Lake, Texas.
Uh what a great caller.
It really was.
I'm unfit to buy the boot of Robert from South Lake, Texas, but you're playing the Pope game, which I called on earlier before the smoke went up, and had the pleasure of uh thinking about this, and I come up to the conclusion that um who we hope is Pope uh would have to be the Canadian and with the Canadian was mentioned in your clip just now before the Peggy Noonan thing,
and the reason I would hope that we get uh the Canadian is because he is conservative, as was Benedict the Sixteenth.
Now you may say, why did Benedict the Sixteenth have to leave office?
Such as no Pope has done in over six hundred years.
So the same forces that pushed him out of the papacy are the same forces that this Canadian Pope, I'm gonna say his name is Cardinal Mark Oulet.
Uh he would be facing the same secular progressive forces that that uh took uh Benedict the sixteenth down.
Okay, now may I stop you there?
Please.
There are secular progressive forces inside the Vatican who took Benedict out.
You Sound like you have some knowledge.
How does that happen?
Because I'd like to try it here in the White House.
Well, uh, I didn't say they were within the Vatican.
These are the uh these are the forces uh uh that have destroyed my country because of the and uh have now found Okay, but my question is what do they have on Bennett to force him out?
I mean he's there, he's Pope, there hasn't been a Pope abdicate in six hundred years, but somehow you what you're saying is that somebody had to approach him and make him an offer he couldn't refuse.
That's right.
And he has to have well, what would that be?
It's done in the Italian fashion.
It's the force of arms rush, in other words, the uh the powers that be are ex are are extraordinarily strong and uh amoral beyond your imagination.
And they compelled Benedict to step aside.
All one has to do is read his encyclicals, and you will find a man of genius, a man of faith, a man of information about destructive force.
Forgive me for saying it, but who knew?
Benedict was not exactly John Paul II.
He was not charismatic.
Uh people outside a very select few in the church ever knew what Benedict stood for.
Well, those who were informed, such as the faithful and the secular progressives, saw him wrong with brilliance on the destructive forces that are homosexualizing the world.
Now, you had a discourse about the fat lesbians, the obese lesbians earlier.
Yeah.
But when you referred to the other uh sex of the species, you referred to them as gay males.
Right.
Where there's an perfectly acceptable uh a great man on the radio once told me that words mean things and that words are the bears of thought.
And there's a word that people avoid these days, and it's the word homosexual.
Why would you be repeating a phrase about gay males and use the word gay when you could be using the proper term homosexual?
Well, I use both.
I was using gay males because it appeared in a headline.
You may dismiss that this as but I'm a man of words, and I understand.
No, no, I'm not dismissing it at all.
I get your point entirely.
And I I um I frankly am breathing a sigh of relief.
I thought you were gonna try to use another word.
I wouldn't do that.
Yeah, I know about I was hoping.
I was hoping.
But but regardless, uh I'm still fascinated here that that that somebody could could go to Benedict, however it happens, and force him to abdicate.
I know who these powerful forces are, by the way, and I know how amoral they and I know what their purpose is.
And I uh it it's not just the church that they are attempting to corrupt.
Certainly not.
They now corrupt and control everything worth controlling except one institution based in Irving, Texas, and that is the Boy Scouts of America.
And the Boy Scout oath sounds like this on my honor.
I will do my duty to God and my country.
I will obey the scout law, I will help other people at all times.
I will keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.
I know, and that's that you got I got news for you.
Fighting words to the people you're talking about.
Exactly right.
We heard it the other day, we played the summit.
Sally Quinn and and Carl Bernstein talking about all the priests that he knows, uh talking about the gay cardinals that exist and until this church, until this church gets gay priests and acknowledges it as a gay pope, then they're gonna not get to lose their relevancy unless they get with it on homosexuality.
They both said that.
Not me, Sally Quinn and Carl Bernstein, and an audio soundbite we had earlier this week.
So uh people know what's going on.
Um but it again it's not just the church, but even at that, Cameron, I still I think of Benedict, I don't know what somebody could approach him With or how somebody could approach him and what it is that they could say that would frighten him,
it would be something like, look at pal, if you don't abdicate we're gonna destroy this church, or what I or or we're gonna destroy you, we know things about you.
I'm just fascinated this hasn't happened in six hundred years.
Exactly.
You're making it sound like this was a a specific pursuit of an agenda-oriented group, and now you're saying that you hope that the very kind of Pope that they succeeded in getting rid of will replace him.
How does that happen?
Well, that can happen if they're external to the Vatican, as you pointed out.
Uh you questioned whether there were any secular progressives inside the Curier.
But I will tell you that if Archbishop Dolan or Archbishop O'Malley gets this job, we are toast, and that Catholic Church is toast.
And and and i unless they pick a Pope like uh Mark O'Lay, uh, or Mark Houlet himself.
Really?
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
You believe that if they have chosen Archbishop Dolan, the Catholic Church is toast?
That's correct.
If if they choose anyone except someone with the mindset of an Olay, uh that church is finished among its uh parishioners and its supporters, and it's all about the money.
What do you do for a liberal how what is your um curriculum vitae here?
What what what why should we believe and listen to you?
I love it when you talk Latin lingo.
What I do, Rush, is everything.
In other words, what do you need done?
And that is what I'll do.
Really?
That's correct.
What is it that motivates you vis-a-vis the Catholic Church?
What is it that you do that has enabled you to acquire the knowledge you profess to have about what's going on inside the Catholic Church.
I mean, who are you, basically?
Not not by name, but I mean, you gotta understand people listening to you on the radio say, who is this guy?
Is this some guy calling from from Connecticut?
Anybody could call and say what you're saying.
Is there a reason people ought to take you seriously?
Well, my name is Ferris Fluke.
And what I am is something that uh was born of the Catholic Church, raised in the Catholic Church, studied it, understand it, and know its enemies.
Like you can read the stitches on a fastball.
I know these lesbo communists and these homocommunists inside and out.
And I know how they fight, I know how they won the war, and uh it's it's similar to your insight on your top.
You know these people the way I know liberals.
Yes.
You then and whoever these people are, these you call them the secular progressives, but you say they're not inside the church.
Some are, are they not?
Certainly, but they may not uh exert the power, and that's what this vote will tell.
This smoke that came up a while ago, and uh let me see if I got this right.
Uh black equ equals nope and and white equals pope.
Is that the way it goes?
Uh bla yeah, that's a well, if you say so.
Well, i if if this comes up uh uh the way I hope it is, uh this church has a future with a conservative.
We'll see.
Uh CNN tells us that the uh new Pope is now getting fitted for his papal robes.
And and uh Ferris or Cameron, which I have to take a break, I've got to run, but I've a little bit behind here.
But I'm glad you called.
I appreciate it, and we'll keep a sharp eye.
You have certainly been provocative, and we'll find out whether or not you know what you're talking about in due course.
I have no doubt.
Back in just a second.
And we're back.
Boy, I tell folks, I am I'm getting a lot of emails from people who said, Did you really mean it?
Or were you kidding when you said you hoped it was Cardinal Dolan, it would be the Pope, because Rush, this guy, this guy is a huge, huge leftist.
And uh Folks, I was halfway kidding.
I I I was primarily reacting to an interview I saw with Dolan three weeks ago, shortly after uh Benedict announced he was leaving, and he owned this interview.
And there was no discussion of uh church theology or belief teaching, any of that stuff.
I've never met him.
I'm not Catholic.
I don't I did I didn't know that he was uh as big a leftist as I'm being told that he is.
So I probably shouldn't have weighed in on it.
So I'll uh I'll reserve my comment.
We still don't know who it is.
They have a guy who come out and announce who it is with his uh earthly name.
I remember the last guy came out Joseph Retinger, and the crowd went nuts because they knew who that was, obviously, Cardinal Ratzinger.
He came out and announced his name as Pope whatever.
Uh Pius John Paul George Ringo I, who knows?
Still waiting on the identity of the recently just now white smoke just billowing out of the smokestack of the Vatican, new Pope.
No idea who it is yet.
Drive-by is on their way over now to Vatican City to tell us what we all need in one another.
My my question is, uh, folks, will the new Pope blame Benedict for everything that goes wrong?
If it does.
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