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March 13, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 13, 2013, Wednesday, Hour #3
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Okay, let's see, Harrison Kay.
Yeah, I just got these.
Looks like you have Soundbites 28, 29, 30 standing by.
And did we get any smoke?
No, no, because smoke could come at any.
You know what?
If the Vatican smart, there's not going to be any smoke for a while, how much money are they making with all these media people over there?
6,000 media credentials?
Anyway, greetings and welcome back.
Great to have you here, Rush Limbaugh on the...
Is that it?
Is that white or black?
We got smoke.
We got white smoke.
Yes, because the cheers are occurring in St. Peter's Square.
So there it is.
Not even the rain can eliminate the white smoke.
So a three-day conclave.
And the new vicar of Christ has been chosen by the College of Cardinals of the Catholic Church right as the third busy broadcast hour begins here on the EIB network.
How about that timing?
And we didn't have to send anybody there to be able to report this news to you.
Happy to have you with us, folks.
800-282-2882 if you want to be on the program.
I want to go back to Robert in South Lake Texas.
I don't want you to have to hold on any longer than you already have.
But I want to start at the beginning.
You're still there, I trust.
Yes.
Okay.
You, lifelong Democrat, you used to think that I was just a blowhard windbag.
Did you think that actually listening to me or just because what people had told you about me?
I thought that because the news stations and everybody around me, most of all my constituents, that's all you ever heard.
You know, they're just far-right kooks and, you know, you have CNN, ABC.
Okay, let me ask you this, this, Robert.
You may not remember this, but back even right before Obama was inaugurated in 2009, it would have been the middle of January, and it got a lot of coverage.
I openly said that I hope he fails.
And, of course, the media ran with that as saying I was being unpatriotic.
Nobody ever wants their president to fail.
It's like Limbaugh saying he wants America to fail.
And I wanted America to be spared.
I wanted America not to fail and not to be harmed.
And I feared that Obama succeeding would result in America's failure.
And it's happening.
Now, did you hear me or did you hear that reported about what I had said back then?
And if so, did that make you mad at me?
Yes, it did, because the media didn't want to come right out and say it, but they were suggesting that you said that because you were a racist.
You were a far-right kook.
Right.
And I know that not to be true.
But you didn't then.
You didn't then.
So back then, you were all caught up in the fervor, and you were hoping, as you said, that Obama would be a counter-role model for young African-American youths instead of the gangster rappers that they look to now.
Exactly.
Now, how long did it take for you to become disappointed with Obama, what you were hoping for?
How long did it take you to realize it wasn't happening?
I'm not really sure.
I think maybe a couple of years into his presidency, I started noticing a trend that everything that he was doing, he was blaming others.
He wasn't taking responsibility.
Now, a role model is a person that I wanted for black Americans, the young black Americans, the ones they feel are disenchanted and disenfranchised and all that, to have someone to look up to.
And when you look up to a person as a role model, the first thing at the top of the list is a sense of responsibility, ownership of what you're doing.
But he blames everybody else, not himself.
It's amazing, isn't it?
And he gets away with it.
I mean, he's been president now for over four years, and none of what's happened attaches to him because he's out there making everybody think he's opposing it, fighting it, trying to fix it.
And these powerful forces elsewhere keep sandbagging him.
But he's still working hard.
He doesn't want to raise the deficit.
He's going to cut everybody's taxes.
He's going to give them health care.
But some of it's just not happening, but he's not getting blamed for it.
So at some point for you, the bloom came off the rose.
And all of a sudden, all of us conservative blowhards and windbags, you started changing your tune on.
Why?
What was the catalyst for that?
When you said the Limbaugh theorem and the sequestration, I said, oh, I've had enough of this.
That did it.
Well, that was just a couple weeks ago.
Yes, but that really did it.
I was moving in that direction maybe seven, eight, nine months ago, right before his election.
And I didn't vote for him the second time.
And I didn't vote for Romney because Romney started off okay.
Then he started migrating left.
And I didn't like that.
So I said to hell with both of them.
But I'm just through with the Democratic Party.
If the Democratic Party is going to be the party of huge government, I work for a living.
No one's given me anything.
I don't mind helping anyone that needs help.
I don't mind helping the veterans or the disabled or the aged.
But for people to sit around and expect for me to work and they take my money and give it to them, because Obama seems to be conveying to them, don't worry about it.
Blame others for your problems because I'm going to give you some of theirs anyway.
I don't like that at all.
Well, are you alone in this or do you have no whole family?
I mean, I have a lot of constituents, a lot of friends, and I've been talking to them.
And now I listen to you, Mark Levine.
I listen to Sean Hannity on WPAP every day now, and they're starting to listen, and we're talking, we're tweeting back and forth.
And I don't believe that the Tea Party, I don't know about the GOP because they got some problems over there.
The Tea Party Patriots, the true conservative, I don't think they don't have to worry about getting the White House in 2016.
Well, the focus right now is the House of Representatives in 2014.
No, that's not going to happen.
You don't have to worry about that.
They're not going to take control of the House in 2014.
Trust me.
Obama keeps doing what he's doing.
He's going to probably lose the Senate, too.
Well, the only problem with that is that there's a party in this equation that if anybody could lose it, they could.
And they're called the Republicans.
I know.
I don't know what's wrong with them.
I mean, I used to have a lot of...
Well, I'll tell you what, let me...
Robert, they're afraid that if they criticize Obama in a proper and just way, that people like you are going to never vote for him and that you're going to hate him and that you're going to think they're racists.
No, no, no, no, not at all.
Because let me tell you the irony and the beauty of that is, let me just step back for a minute.
Obama is half black and half white.
You cannot say no one can be labeled a racist because we have five years of proof of what this man is doing or what he's not doing and what type of person he is.
And like I said before, there's something sinister about this man.
No one's going to label them a racist.
Our eyes are wide open now.
Many of us are not low-information voters anymore, and we're not beholding to the party anymore.
Robert, how many people are you speaking for here when you say we are not going to be fooled anymore and we are not low-information voters anyway?
Who are you talking about?
Many Democrats.
I mean, many.
I mean, I'm part owner of KRF Financial Group.
Many of us, my whole neighborhood, I live in South Lake.
My whole neighborhood, we're walking, we're talking.
Everybody's saying the same thing.
We do not want to sit here and be robbed by a government for nothing.
They're giving our money away to any and everybody.
I mean, I want what I have.
Is it true?
Two years ago, you felt just the exact opposite?
That's correct.
Because two years ago, I was thinking this man was in there to try to help the disenfranchised.
He was going to be a good role model.
He was going to bring blacks, whites, Orientals, Hispanics, everybody together.
And it hasn't happened that way.
Unfortunately, I hate to say it, but he's probably the worst president.
And I'm 55 years old, worst president I've ever seen.
And I've been through the days and the Los Angeles riots and the 60s and the 70s and the 80s and the 90s.
And I just have had enough of this.
This is not going to help us.
It is destroying us.
Well, I don't disagree.
I'm just happy to hear what you're saying.
It just surprises me.
I'm hoping that these kinds of things are happening.
Robert, you know, the reason, see, none of what's happening to me, and by the way, don't misunderstand.
This is not a criticism at all.
But none of what's happening is a surprise to me because he's a liberal.
I know who they are.
I know what they doesn't matter.
Obama or Al Gore or Hillary or they're all of the same bent.
And so none of this surprises me.
And I've been frustrated.
I've been frustrated that so many Americans don't see it because it's so easy.
It's not hard to see the truth here.
And you finally have.
And you call here and you tell me that there are lots of people now with their eyes open.
And I hope that you're right.
I see his approval numbers falling in the polls, but I don't want to attach too much weight to that because they could just as quickly change tomorrow.
No, it's real.
Trust me, it's real.
And I live in Texas, and Texas is real red.
It is real.
Well, I know.
That's the point.
Texas, if you were calling me from San Francisco or Los Angeles, it might be even more impactful.
But you already live in a red state.
But all the people who are moving here are from California and New York and Detroit and Chicago and Atlanta.
They're moving to Texas.
Why do you think everybody's running to Texas?
Let me warn you about that.
On one hand, that's something to be proud of, but those people are not going to become conservatives.
They're going to come there and they're going to be their good little liberal selves.
No.
And they're going to end up turning Texas into California if you all aren't careful.
No, no.
I have some neighbors that came from San Diego, Los Angeles, and the Bay Area, and they were Democrats.
They are now conservative.
They left California because they don't want Texas to turn into California.
That's good, but just keep it in the back of your mind because, you know, in Florida, we've had an influx of people from the Northeast, and they come down here, and they're still liberals.
They're fleeing liberalism.
They're fleeing taxes.
They're fleeing property taxes.
They're fleeing the fact they can't afford to buy anything.
But they come down here and they still elect Democrats and they still hang around and they still do all the stuff that ended up turning their states blue.
You've got to keep a sharp eye on it, Robert.
Well, after Obama, you'll see that's not going to happen because I think the trend is slowing down and people are starting to say, oh, no, we don't want any more of this.
Okay, what do you think about I've got a story here from the Washington Examiner?
It says that the Democrat dream ticket, 2016 Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama.
Is that a joke?
No, no, no.
2016 Hillary Michelle dream ticket idea floated.
That would never happen.
Well, you are speaking with ontological certitude here, and I wouldn't have thought any of this would ever happen to America in my lifetime, but it has.
Well, I think.
And we got a long road back, Robert.
We have a long road.
Reversing some of this stuff is it could take a generation to reverse some of this stuff.
Obamacare, that's still a roll of the dice.
That's true.
Obamacare has ruined everybody, even my insurance is on it.
But let me tell you something: what happened?
Obama went too far.
If he had just eaves into it gradually, but he is kicking the walls down.
He is running through everything like gangbusters.
That's because he knows he's got basically a year and a half here to get it done.
And after then, everybody focuses on 2014 and then the presidency in 2016.
So what his grand strategy is to jam as much done, get as much done as he can the next year and a half, have the Democrats win the House, have one party rule from 2014 on, and not have to worry about any opposition.
Oh, that's not going to happen, Rush.
Trust me.
I understand what you're saying.
You have to have faith in us out here.
You're a radio host.
You're trying to inform people.
We are informed now.
That's not going to happen.
Well, I hope you're right.
And I can't tell you how grateful I am that you're in the audience, and I'm grateful that you got through.
It's been a delight to talk to you, Robert, and I thank you so much.
I've got to go.
I take another obscene profit time out here.
But thank you very much.
I hope you have a great day and keep on.
You too.
Bye.
See you later.
Be back after this, folks.
Don't go away.
What a great caller that guy was.
That kind of call gives you hope as host.
It gives me hope.
Folks, I'm just like you.
We sit out here and we know that we reach a lot of people, millions upon millions of people.
We also know we're outnumbered when you add up the number of people Hollywood reaches and television shows reach and books to a certain extent, music, late-night comedy TV shows.
We're just simply outnumbered media-wise in that regard.
The whole objective here has been to create the largest informed citizenry, participatory citizenry possible.
I mean, if there's been one objective to the program aside from the business requirements, you know, it's get a large audience and hold it.
But if you want to attach it like a mission statement, We want a large, informed, educated, participating in the process population.
So calls like that are gratifying.
And he's confident when he says there's all kinds of people like him out there.
You know, on the other side of it, Obama's won two elections.
And we've had calls like that throughout these 25 years.
But at some point, one thing I know, if this country is going to be saved and the direction we're going turned around, it's going to require a bunch of Roberts being created or converting or what have you.
It's going to take that.
Millions of people are going to have to wake up.
Millions of low information, but he told us he was one.
Millions of them are going to have to wake up.
And when they see the truth, they're going to have to accept it.
And it's tough.
The presidency is a revered institution.
People do not want to think that their president lies.
People don't want to think or believe that their president would actually create policies that would hurt people.
It's the exact opposite.
People don't want to think that they've elected somebody that doesn't like the way this country was founded.
It's a really, really difficult thing to try to reach a typical Obama voter, a low information voter, and have the lights go off, as it did with Robert.
And basically, just in the past seven or nine months, did he start his evolution?
And then, interestingly, he could have been sucking up, but I don't think he didn't sound like that.
He didn't sound like a guy who sucks up, but he could have been.
When he said, when I explained the Limbaugh theorem and the sequester is when the light went off for him.
Now, that's gratifying to me.
I don't care what it is that causes people to wake up.
It has to happen, folks.
It has to happen.
That is what's going to create the leadership in Washington.
I'm convinced.
It's going to have to bubble up in the grassroots.
Be right back.
Not going anywhere.
And we're back.
El Rushbo here, the cutting edge of societal evolution.
Eyes are now on the papal balcony outside the apartment where the Pope lives in the Vatican.
You know, it would be great if it was Cardinal Dolan.
Timothy Cardinal Dolan, New York Archdies.
It would be great.
And of course, it was being suggested earlier today by the drive-bys last night that could be an American Pope because America is no longer a big country anymore.
We no longer push people around so we could have a Pope.
Media was excited because they think an American Pope would signal the end of American superpower status.
And if you don't believe me, we've got a media montage of various media people talking about that very fact from yesterday, last night, and this morning.
In the old days, the idea used to be you can't have a pope from the United States because you can't have a superpower pope.
My experience of interviewing Catholic bishops from Africa is that when you say the word superpower to them, they don't think the United States, they think of China.
It's no longer the superpower can possibly give us a Pope.
I think people are looking to the great countries of Canada, the United States.
don't want to give the world's lone superpower the papacy in addition to all the other things it already has control of.
Hearing from a lot of Vatican experts who are over there right now, that's much less in play this year.
The thing that used to keep an American cardinal from being picked was that America was a superpower.
In Europe, in Italy, they don't see us as quite the superpower we were.
How about that?
How about that was Peggy Noonan at the end.
The names here, John Allen of, let's see, John Allen, CNN, Vatican spokesman, Father Thomas Rosica, Stephen White, the Ethics and Public Policy Center, and Peggy Noonan.
Those were the voices that you heard.
Yeah, they don't think of America as superpower.
I think China.
Yeah, Europe, Italy.
They don't see us.
You can have an American Pope now because having an American Pope, we wouldn't be controlling everything like we used to.
I have to tell you, Obama hears soundbites like that.
He said, mission accomplished.
Mission accomplished.
Let's go back to the phones.
Here is Cameron in Canaan, Connecticut.
It's great to have you on the program.
Hi.
Hey, Rush.
I'm still reeling from Robert from South Lake, Texas.
What a great caller.
It really was.
I'm unfit to bind the boot of Robert from South Lake, Texas, but you're playing the Pope game, which I called on earlier before the smoke went up, and had the pleasure of thinking about this.
And I come up to the conclusion that who we hope is Pope would have to be the Canadian.
And the Canadian was mentioned in your clip just now before the Peggy Noonan thing.
And the reason I would hope that we get the Canadian is because he is conservative as was Benedict XVI.
Now, you may say, why did Benedict XVI have to leave office, such as no pope has done in over 600 years?
So the same forces that pushed him out of the papacy are the same forces that this Canadian Pope, I'm going to say his name is Cardinal Mark Ulay.
He would be facing the same secular progressive forces that took Benedict XVI down.
Okay, now, may I stop you there?
Please.
There are secular progressive forces inside the Vatican who took Benedict out.
You sound like you have some knowledge.
How does that happen?
Because I'd like to try it here in the White House.
Well, I didn't say they were within the Vatican.
These are the forces that have destroyed my country, Tis of the and have now the problem.
Okay, but my question is, what do they have on Bennett to force him out?
I mean, he's there.
He's Pope.
There hasn't been a Pope abdicate in 600 years.
But somehow, what you're saying is that somebody had to approach him and make him an offer he couldn't refuse.
That's correct.
And he asked, well, what would that be?
It's done in the Italian fashion.
It's the force of arms, Rush.
In other words, the powers that be are extraordinarily strong and amoral, beyond your imagination.
And they compelled Benedict to step aside.
All one has to do is read his encyclicals, and you will find a man of genius, a man of faith, a man of information about destructive forces.
Forgive me for saying it, but who knew?
Benedict was not exactly John Paul II.
He was not charismatic.
People outside a very select few in the church ever knew what Benedict stood for.
Well, those who were informed, such as the faithful and the secular progressives, saw him write with brilliance on the destructive forces that are homosexualizing the world.
Now, you had a discourse about the fat lesbians, the obese lesbians earlier.
But when you referred to the other sects of the species, you referred to them as gay males.
Right.
Where there's a perfectly acceptable, a great man on the radio once told me that words mean things and that words are the bearers of thought.
And there's a word that people avoid these days, and it's the word homosexual.
Why would you be repeating a phrase about gay males and use the word gay when you could be using the proper term, homosexual?
Well, I use both.
I was using gay males because it appeared in a headline.
You may dismiss this as, but I'm a man of words, and I understand.
No, no, I'm not dismissing it at all.
I get your point entirely.
And I, frankly, am breathing a sigh of relief.
I thought you were going to try to use another word.
I wouldn't do that.
Yeah, I know.
I was hoping.
I was hoping.
But regardless, I'm still fascinated here that somebody could go to Benedict, however it happens, and force him to abdicate.
I know who these powerful forces are, by the way.
And I know how amoral they are, and I know what their purpose is.
And it's not just the church that they are attempting to corrupt.
Certainly not.
They now corrupt and control everything worth controlling except one institution based in Irving, Texas, and that is the Boy Scouts of America.
And the Boy Scout oath sounds like this.
On my honor, I will do my duty to God and my country.
I will obey the scout law.
I will help other people at all times.
I will keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.
I know.
And I got news for you.
Fighting words to the people you're talking about.
Exactly right.
We heard it the other day.
We played this summit.
Sally Quinn and Carl Bernstein, talking about all the priests that he knows, talking about all the gay cardinals that exist.
Until this church, until this church gets gay priests and acknowledges it as a gay pope, then they're not going to lose their relevancy unless they get with it on homosexuality.
They both said that.
Not me.
Sally Quinn and Carl Bernstein in an audio soundbite we had earlier this week.
So people know what's going on.
But again, it's not just the church, but even at that Cameron, I still think of Benedict, I don't know what somebody could approach him with or how somebody could approach him and what it is that they could say that would frighten him.
It would be something like, look at Pal, if you don't abdicate, we're going to destroy this church or we're going to destroy you.
We know things about you.
I'm just fascinated.
This hasn't happened in 600 years.
Exactly.
You're making it sound like this was a specific pursuit of an agenda-oriented group, and now you're saying that you hope that the very kind of pope that they succeeded in getting rid of will replace him.
How does that happen?
Well, that can happen if they're external to the Vatican.
As you pointed out, you questioned whether there were any secular progressives inside the Curie.
But I will tell you that if Archbishop Dolan or Archbishop O'Malley gets this job, we are toast.
And that Catholic Church is toast.
And unless they pick a Pope like Mark Olay or Mark Olay himself.
Really?
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
You believe that if they have chosen Archbishop Dolan, the Catholic Church is toast?
That's correct.
If they choose anyone except someone with the mindset of an Olay, that church is finished among its parishioners and its supporters, and it's all about the money.
What do you do for a liberal?
What is your curriculum vitae here?
Why should we believe and listen to you?
I love it when you talk Latin lingo.
What I do, Rush, is everything.
In other words, what do you need done?
And that is what I'll do.
Really?
That's correct.
What is it that motivates you vis-a-vis the Catholic Church?
What is it that you do that has enabled you to acquire the knowledge you profess to have about what's going on inside the Catholic Church?
I mean, who are you, basically?
Not by name, but I mean, you got to understand.
People listening to you on the radio saying, who is this guy?
Is this some guy calling from Connecticut?
Anybody can call and say what you're saying.
Is there a reason people ought to take you seriously?
Well, my name is Ferris Fluke.
And what I am is something that was born of the Catholic Church, raised in the Catholic Church, studied it, understand it, and know its enemies.
Like you can read the stitches on a fastball.
I know these lesbo communists and these homo-communists inside and out.
And I know how they fight.
I know how they won the war.
And it's similar to your insight on your time.
You know these people the way I know liberals.
Yes.
And whoever these people are, you call them the secular progressives, but you say they're not inside the church.
Some are, are they not?
Certainly, but they may not exert the power.
And that's what this vote will tell.
This smoke that came up a while ago, and let me see if I got this right.
Black equals nope, and white equals pope.
Is that the way it goes?
Yeah, that's a well, if you say so.
Well, if this comes up the way I hope it is, this church has a future with conservatives.
We'll see.
CNN tells us that the new Pope is now getting fitted for his papal robes.
And Ferris or Cameron, which I have to take a break.
I've got to run.
I'm a little bit behind here.
But I'm glad you called.
I appreciate it.
And we'll keep a sharp eye.
You have certainly been provocative.
And we'll find out whether or not you know what you're talking about in due course.
I have no doubt.
Back in just a second.
And we're back.
Boy, folks, I'm getting a lot of emails from people who said, did you really mean it?
Or were you kidding when you said you hoped it was Cardinal Dolan that would be the Pope?
Because, Rush, this guy is a huge, huge leftist.
And, folks, I was halfway kidding.
I was primarily reacting to an interview I saw with Dolan three weeks ago, shortly after Benedict announced he was leaving.
And he owned this interview.
And there was no discussion of church theology or belief teaching, any of that stuff.
I've never met him.
I'm not Catholic.
I didn't know that he was as big a leftist as I'm being told that he is.
So I probably shouldn't have weighed in on it.
So I'll reserve my comment.
We still don't know who it is.
They have a guy who come out and announce who it is with his earthly name.
I remember the last guy came out, Joseph Retzinger.
And the crowd went nuts because they knew who that was, obviously, Cardinal Ratzinger.
He came out and announced his name as Pope whatever.
Pius John Paul George Ringo I. Who knows?
Still waiting on the identity of the recently, just now, white smoke just billowing out of the smokestack of the Vatican.
New Pope.
No idea who it is yet.
The drive-by is on their way over now to Vatican City to tell us what we all need in one another.
My question is, folks, will the new Pope blame Benedict for everything that goes wrong?
If it does, things go wrong.
Is it all going to be Benedict's fault up there at Castel Gandalfo?
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