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Jan. 10, 2013 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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January 10, 2013, Thursday, Hour #2
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And greetings to you once again, music lovers, thrill seekers, and conversationalists all across the fruited plane.
Rush Limbaugh serving humanity behind the golden EIB microphone, the distinguished Limboy Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
It's a delight to have you here.
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So I had this New Year's resolution.
I wanted to I wanted to go low profile or lower profile.
Be less noticed.
Just stay out of everybody's way.
And I'll just come in here every day and it'd be you and me in three hours, it's over, go home, come back, do it the next day.
And I'm not getting any support.
Not getting assistance here.
Two days in a row now than the focal point over at CNN.
And this is last night on the situation room.
This is a Wolf Blitzer show.
I don't know if Wolf was there or some guest host or what have you.
And I want you to listen to what they do here and how they package this.
Now this is the result all of this results from an observation that I made yesterday.
We had, and it was on Drudge, the Vice President Joe Biden, when I told the press that he and Barack are looking at everything to fix the gun problem.
Now there's some things that we know going in.
We know that Biden and Obama are Democrats.
We know that they are avowed leftists.
We know as a result of that that they resent the Second Amendment.
We know that if they could, they would do away with the Second Amendment.
This is not supposition.
It's not guesswork.
We have listened to them over the course of many years.
Now, in recent days or months, they have not said specifically we want to get rid of the Second Amendment.
They used to say that.
And they would say it in a number of varied ways.
Second Amendment's outlived its usefulness.
Founding fathers never intended Second Amendment to encompass what it encompassed.
The Founding Fathers never envisioned.
Millions of Americans having guns.
The Second Amendment is there specifically to make sure the people of this country have the firepower they need to defend themselves.
And not just against burglars and muggers and purse snatchers and rapists, but government as well.
It's why it's there.
It's the Second Amendment.
It comes right after the first.
It's not an add-on.
It's not a casual throw it in just to put it there.
It's not, well, we need ten for the Bill of Rights, let's add that.
It was well thought out.
And we know, look at it, we just have to have the courage to admit it that course of my lifetime, the Democrat Party doesn't like it.
In fact, the Democrats in the Constitution are it's it's a funny study.
Because to them, the Constitution is whatever they want it to say.
And I d they've come up with theories.
They they s they dislike the whole Constitution anyway, folks.
Because the Constitution limits government.
And they are Democrats, they're big government people.
They resent.
FDR was one of the first to propose a second Bill of Rights that would specify what government got to do, not what government can't do.
Obama and his acolytes in the Democrat legal community really resent the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
They call it a charter of negative liberties.
But remember now they come from the perspective of loving government.
So when they say it's a charter of negative liberties, you might scratch us a wait a minute, all it does is guarantee our freedom.
What's negative About that.
From their standpoint, their focus is government power.
They don't want government power to be limited.
They want it increased, enhanced, growing.
So the Constitution's a threat to them.
And I'm just telling you what they have said.
And you know as well as I do, if given the chance, they'd take your gun away from you.
Despite what their protestations to the contrary are today, they think that guns, I mean, how many have you, how many of you have run into liberals in the course of living your lives?
You've gotten into gun control debates, and you know full well that's what they would do if they could.
Make you give up your gun.
It's not a mystery.
It's not a supposition.
It's not a wild theory.
We just listen to what they say and react to it.
So when Biden yesterday, in the midst of the federal government having meetings of what to do as a result of Sandy Hook, when Biden says, Well, we're looking at a number of things, executive orders, legislation, executive orders for what?
Taking guns, limiting guns, making them harder to get, maybe confiscating them, but who knows?
But this is not arguable.
All it takes is a little courage to admit it and a modicum of intelligence to know it.
And this is my problem.
As I stated cogently and clearly in the first hour, my the reason I get into tit tats with these people is I assume that they know more than they do.
I assume they're smarter than they are, and I assume that they are aware of more than they are.
And they aren't, and therefore that's why they don't get me.
Don, why are you rolling your eyes in there?
Oh, I thought you were rolling your eyes because you're mad at me for bragging.
I'm not I'm not bragging.
I'm trying to spell it out here.
I don't care what the controversy involving me is with the mainstream media, if you dig deep in it, and if you go too deep even, you'll find that it's rooted, and they just don't understand what happened.
Partly what happens here, because they don't listen here.
They get third party reports about what happens here.
Out of context soundbite so forth.
So given that, all I did was, okay, Biden says we're looking at executive orders, we're looking at legislation to do what I said, take guns away.
That just threw for a loop at CNN.
How could anybody think that really?
You'll hear it.
How can anybody think that's what Obama wants to do?
How can anybody think it?
He does it.
How about forcing the Catholic church to give away abortive fashions?
Violating of their First Amendment religious liberty, forcing them to give away contraceptives as part of their health care plan.
He's spits on the Constitution with that.
He has issued executive orders involving immigration that fly in the face of federal law.
Now nothing you'll hear them go absolutely baddie over the fact, you know, I raised the question who knew that an executive order trumps the Constitution, and they react, well, no, Bob, I mean, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
An executive order doesn't trump if that's right, it doesn't.
You guys don't get we got a guy who tries it.
You are covering a president who tries to trump the Constitution.
He doesn't, but you don't see it, you don't want to see it, you know, like he's I don't know.
But it is their problem, as you will hear.
So, in their quest to paint me as as as cyanide Baronhart, as is some dick dastardly kind of guy.
This sound bite that you're gonna hear, they quote me, say what I said yesterday, which a recap of what I just said to you, and look at how they juxtapose it, or listen to how they juxtapose it.
Word the White House will go it alone on some measures was met with suspicion on the right.
So when Biden, himself a liberal democrat, says that himself and the president and the cabinet, attorney general, all a bunch of leftist Democrats are talking about using executive orders when you say for what?
It could only be to take guns away from people.
And who knew that an executive order could trump a constitutional amendment?
My daughter was killed in Aurora, Jessica Gowie.
My 16-year-old son, Blair Holt was killed in Chicago May 10, 2007.
My name is Colin Goddard.
I'm a survivor of the shooting at Virginia Tech in 2007.
Victims of gun violence and their family members who met with Biden were heartened by the news the White House will take executive action.
So they play me, sound by to me, talking about what Biden and Obama really want to do.
And they back it up with sob stories, some victims, which of course is designed to make me look like cold heartless, cruel cyanide Baronheart, Dick Dastardly kind of guy.
And then, and then they go, victims of gun violence, and their family members were heartened by the news.
The White House will take executive act.
What executive?
What are they heartened by?
What does everybody think is going on?
What can it be other than federal executive action to do something with guns that would be a big what are they gonna what else is there but coming up with a way to make them harder to get, take them away from people, want to limit them somehow?
Isn't that what everybody knows what's going on?
And yet I somehow am the wacko extremist for.
We just don't know the details how they're gonna do it, but we all know what they're aiming for, and yet I somehow am the mean SOB for pointing it out.
So that's one.
Then Carol Costello clawed her way back into the limbaugh beat.
Uh she did a uh she did a segment on me and guns this morning on her show on CNN.
Rush Limbaugh and others saying the second amendment now in jeopardy, even though no one is talking about overturning the second amendment or confiscating guns in America.
So what impact could an executive order really have?
Doesn't it just inflame things?
You see, this great illustration of exactly what I'm talking about.
Here is a woman, she's an anchor at she's an info babe at a major cable news outlet who is clueless.
What could an executive order do?
Nobody's talking about overturning the second amendment.
Carol, I'm uh I'm 62.
My whole life they have been dreaming of overturning the second amendment, and for many of these years they have said so.
And everybody knows this.
Where have you been?
No one's talking about overturning a second amendment, nobody's confiscating guns.
Why are gun sales at an all-time high?
Why are people running out and buying guns at a record pace?
The NRA has gained more than a hundred thousand new members in the last eighteen days.
Why is that?
The media has done nothing but try to destroy the NRA the last 18 days.
The last 18 days they have tried to humiliate, destroy, obliterate Wayne Lampierre, the NRA, anybody else associated with it.
People are buying guns at a record clip, joining the NRA at a record clip.
What do these people in the media think?
I'll tell you what they think.
They're ticked off.
They think that they are destroying the NRA.
They think people ought to be quitting the NRA.
They think people ought to be resigning at 100,000 a day.
They think because of the way they've been covered, people ought to be volunteering to give up their guns.
They are mad that you're buying guns.
They're mad that you're joining the NRA.
After all they've done to destroy the NRA and you're joining them.
But point is, why are they doing it?
What are people afraid of?
They know who Obama is.
They know what Obama and Biden are talking about when they start throwing around executive orders as they talk about the gun problem.
To a liberal, what is the gun problem that they exist?
That is the problem.
To a leftist to a Democrat, the problem is the guns exist.
Therefore, what is their solution?
If the problem is the existence of guns, the solution is get rid of them.
That's like one plus one is two.
They don't get it.
And somebody who points this out is obviously an extremist wacko, dick dastardly kind of guy.
That's me.
Now what's going on?
Nobody talking about overturning a Second Amendment, confiscating guns.
Since she asked that question, what impact could an executive order really have?
She asked it of Roland Martin.
Another wizard of SMART who populates the airwaves at CNN.
And this was what he said in response to her insightful questions.
Anytime we talk about dealing with this issue, uh, folks, what do they do?
They run to the fog stream by saying, oh, they're trying to take our guns.
This is why we can never move forward because they want to go automatically to they're taking a gun, they're taking our guns.
Calm down, stop it.
All right, what do you want to do?
What is gun control?
What is making modifications, second amendment rolled?
What do you guys want?
Who you how how ignorant do you think we are?
People are reacting quite rationally here to what they're hearing and seeing in the media when they're going out and joining the NRA and buying guns.
They know what they're up against.
They've heard Democrats all their lives.
They know what you guys really want.
Your problem is the existence of guns.
Now you got your president and vice president contemplating executive action.
To do what?
Make them cheaper?
Make them safer.
Regulate bullets.
And they went to their conservative, the House Conservative at CNA guy named Will Cain, Carol Costello said, doesn't it sound like a threat, Will, that Obama and Biden say they'll use executive action to control guns?
It's not exactly a great negotiating point.
Rush Limbaugh's wrong.
He's not going to be able to trump the second amendment.
President Obama is not going to be able to trump the second amendment with an executive order.
Well, um doesn't mean he won't try.
You know, Obama will try anything and has, and nobody stops him, by the way.
He has trumped the Constitution's First Amendment and religious liberty.
He has trumped the Constitution on immigration.
He essentially granted amnesty to a million kids without benefit of legislation.
He'll do anything that nobody tries to stop him from doing.
Of course, an executive order legally doesn't trump the Constitution.
But if he issues an executive order to try to confiscate guns or something along those lines, and nobody stops him, does he not get away with it?
And so he has trumped it.
I don't, again, I have to tell you, I think it just is amazing to me how, I don't even know how to say it right.
I did this.
Because I don't want to be insulting.
I'm really not trying to be insulting.
I just I am stunned at how I guess the kindest word is ignorant.
People are about what we're dealing with here.
It's a stunning.
Okay.
I have two more sound bites in the next segment to your phone calls.
So I said yesterday, in humor, sarcasm, irony.
Who knew an executive order could trump the Constitution?
It can't.
The point was that Obama and Biden are trying to do just that.
Who these people actually think that I was saying that I thought an executive order trumps a constitution, and they had to make a point that I don't know what I'm talking about.
And it's they no humor ability at all.
They don't get subtlety or irony.
Here, first off, Ashley Banfield.
No, no, sorry.
No rush.
You are very entertaining, and I'm sure a lovely man, but you are wrong.
I will say this.
What Rush Limbaugh is saying is something that is being echoed across this country.
People are panicking.
They hear, oh, rule by fiat, our guns are going.
An executive order is very powerful, but it cannot supersede the Constitution.
Exactly.
That's exactly the point.
And yet we're governed by people who will try it.
Duh.
And Jeffrey Tubin, the legal beagle at CNN weighs in.
Nor can it supersede a law that Congress has passed.
For example, there was an assault weapons ban from 1994 to 2004.
President Obama on his own by executive order cannot impose an assault weapons ban because Congress has to do that.
Only Congress can pass a law.
Stop the test.
Stop it.
Where are you people?
Are you paying attention to what this president is doing?
He's you using executive orders or wants to, in violation of the very things you're describing, and you don't see it.
You think I don't know what I'm talking about when I'm subtly making the I I literally, folks.
I uh I'm stunned.
Look, just a couple more things on this, and I'm gonna get back to the phones.
You you people at CNN, with all due respect, you need to be telling Joe Biden and Obama what you're telling me.
Because I already know it.
I know an executive order doesn't trump the Constitution.
You need to be telling Obama and Biden.
They're the ones contemplating using one.
I'm not.
I get it.
Let me if you don't understand, let me put it in in in terms that maybe you all at CNN would understand.
If George Bush and uh Dick Cheney, let's throw him in there, and uh Alberto Gonzalez, let's throw all three of those guys.
If they got together and decided too many people were dying because of abortion in this country, and said that they were looking at ways to curb abortion.
And one of the things that they were thinking of doing was using executive orders on abortion.
What do you think your reaction would be?
I'm telling you, outraged panic would set in.
If the vice president Dick Cheney had gone on television like Biden did, yeah, yeah, this abortion, it's it's just killing too many kids.
Look at the number, over a million kids are dead every year because of abortion, and we've got to stop this.
And we're looking at any number of ways.
And uh one of the things we're looking at is an executive order.
Can you imagine what you guys at CNN be doing?
My gosh, you'd be you'd be having cows.
And you'd be out there shouting, you can't do that, you can't do that, you can't do that.
Abortion's protected by the Constitution.
You can't do that.
Well, we're just looking at an executive order.
If Bush Cheney, Alberto Gonzalez talked about issuing an executive order on abortion, would they be laughing?
Would would would Carol Costello be laughing at anybody who thought it might put abortion at risk?
Come on, they're nothing.
Come on, don't get so panicked.
There's no one executive order doesn't trump a constitution.
They can't ban abortion with an executive order.
Don't worry about it, Carol.
Yeah, right.
Don't worry about it, Ashley.
Don't worry about it, Roland.
Don't worry about it, Jeffrey.
An executive order can't trump abortion in the Constitution.
Roe versus Wade, it's right there.
And then look at the headlines today.
New York Times Cuomo to press for wider curbs on gun access.
We got, by the way, we have the soundbites from from from Governor Cuomo, uh, Andrew the Pious, and I'm telling you, he's fit to be tied.
So you got New York Times Cuomo proposes gun ammo magazine limits.
What does that mean?
What are these people trying to do when it comes to guns?
Limit them, take them away, confiscate them.
Who knows?
But we all know what Democrats want, and we all know what Democrats think about the Second Amendment.
I've run into Republicans.
Moderate Northeastern Republicans who've haranged me over guns.
Anyway, let's go to the phones as promised.
Charlotte, North Carolina.
This is Melanie.
I am so glad you waited.
Welcome to the program.
Hi.
Thanks.
Thanks, Raj, for taking my call.
I'm a proud gun owner and NRA member.
Um my comment is I don't think the Obama Obama administration really is interested in protecting people from gun violence.
I think their real agenda is to bully conservatives in the NRA.
You know, put the screws to the to the bitter clingers.
Um certainly seems to fit their template of political revenge.
You know, I think you are on to something.
I remember back in the Clinton years, Wayne Lampierre was on this week with David Brinkley.
And it was after an event such as Sandy Hook, it was after some mass shooting.
Wayne Lopier went on the ABC Sunday show, and he said uh paraphrasing this is very close.
He said he thought President Clinton was comfortable with a certain level of violence because it allowed him to pontificate against guns.
He uh he he he was comfortable with a level of violence because it allowed him to advance his agenda blaming the gun.
Well, your point you it uh you essentially would agree with that, right?
Because you're saying the same thing.
They're not care about gun safety.
They're using this as an opportunity to get rid of a group that opposes Obama.
That's correct.
It's a political opportunity.
Uh you wouldn't want to waste a crisis.
Right.
It's a political opportunity to negate a political opponent.
Right in this case, the NRA.
Right.
Uh probably one of their their greatest uh adversaries um in the last two elections.
No question about it.
And not just because it done Obama is not running anything again, we think, but the Democrats surely will be.
And despite what they say, we know that there is a deep resentment for the NRA, and you're right, Obama and his bitter clinger comment when he was in San Francisco, they cling to guns and their religion when uh periods have changed that they don't like or can't explain.
I think you're on to something.
I I I really I know it sounds harsh to say that the president really not primarily concerned with uh gun safety so much as he sees a political opportunity, but I do.
I think you're on to something.
I think it's really smart.
Well, thank you.
All right, Melanie, appreciate it.
Mike in Fairfield, California.
I'm glad that you called.
Hi.
Good afternoon, Rush, and lock and low Ditto from California.
Thank you, sir.
El Mucho.
Uh, a couple of points.
Um number one, uh I don't think a lot of people remember, and and for your low information voters, probably never knew to begin with, that the very first shot of the revolutionary war was fired over the Brits trying to confiscate the weapons from the colonists.
Um my second point uh um being that and you and your previous caller nailed this right on the head.
Being as divisive as this president and this administration has been, um, if they do resort to some sort of either uh registration or confiscation, there there's gonna be repercussions.
Well, you're right.
Sadly, you're right.
Um and you're right about the revolutionary war.
And you're right about the fact that people may sit around and watch their jobs destroyed, and they may sit around and watch the economic destruction thinking there's not much they can do about it, but they are not gonna just idly let their second amendment constitutional right be taken from them.
That just isn't gonna happen.
I agree, and I and one of the things that's most frustrating is to watch all these talking heads and listen to their explanations or arguments, and 99% of them don't know what in the hell they're talking about.
Oh, that's I know.
That that's honestly just I and it's not just about this issue.
Not only did they they not know, I I'm I'm stunned by it.
They're their real level of uh I don't mean to be insulting with the term ignorance.
I know it's a derogatory term, but I actually mean it as it is defined in the dictionary, lack of knowledge.
Uh uh they the things that that they think they know that they don't blows my mind.
And you couple that with the fact that apparently when a when a conservative is speaking, there is no tolerance for sense of humor or subtlety or uh double entendre or any kind of sarcasm par sarcasm parody as a way of making a point.
It is just uh mind-boggling.
But I think over the overarching thing is how little they really are informed, coupled with the uh arrogant condescension that they exhibit thinking they know everything.
So that's the thing.
It's it's uh that's the biggest thing that I think I've got to keep in mind is I've I'm just assuming that everybody has a certain baseline of understanding as a starting point.
So rather than start an explanation of something, say at the grade 12 level, I'm gonna have to start in the second grade when I start making a point.
That may be the only way to do it, which is gonna frustrate you because you all are at college level.
This is a limball institute here.
Appreciate the call.
Thanks much.
We'll be right back.
Don't go away.
I want to go back to something that um our previous caller, Mike from Fairfield said.
He said the first shot war was fired by people to save to keep their guns.
Before Rush Revere made Rush Revere is the guy on the two of my tea bottle.
Two of my T, that's our that's our loco and icon, Rush Revere.
And before Rush Revere made his famous ride, seriously, the Royal Government, the British government in Massachusetts wanted to confiscate weapons that the colonists had been storing throughout the countryside.
Mike and Fairfield was exactly right, and several attempts were made to do this.
But Revere and other midnight writers alerted the townspeople, and the weapons were hidden before they could be confiscated.
So this led to the British general cage come up with a secret plan to go after the weapons at Lexington and Concord in the middle of the night.
But Revere got wind of it and made his famous ride.
The British are coming, the British are coming, was not just a clarion call to war starting.
It was a warning that the British were coming to confiscate guns in order to make sure nobody could fire against them.
And this, if you want to read about this, you can go to the old North.com history slash April 18th, HTM.
The Old North Church, Old North.com.
But the Rush Revere ride was as much about warning people that Gage and the Brits were coming to get guns as it was to start the war.
So Mike was exactly right about it.
I just got a note from Eric Erickson.
He's occasional guest spot on CNN is at redstate.com, and he's right about something here.
He said, Mark the date.
It isn't gonna be long before moderate Republicans start going on television to push the notion that guns are hurting Republicans with independent voters and women.
Just like abortion, just like the pro-lifers are hurting independence, Republicans with independent, just like immigration, the moderate spineless linguini-spined Republicans.
It isn't gonna be long as this controversy heats up, you know, they wilt with a little heat.
It doesn't take the moderate Republicans long to slink away.
They don't like having to stand up and defend what they believe.
They'd rather give away a core belief.
They'd rather anunciate something that would make them friends with their enemies.
So it's you watch, it won't be long before the same bunch of Republicans that tell us we've got to get amnesty, we've got to go after the Hispanic vote, and we've got to relax our position on abortion.
We cannot keep up this war on women.
We are ruining ourselves.
Never mind the fact that Romney won independence in five out of the eight battleground states.
In fact, the thing to take away from this election, if I may make a brief departure, First election, and I don't know how long that the candidate who won a vast majority of independents lost the election.
The reason Romney lost is the Republican base didn't show up.
And the reason the Republican base didn't show up is precisely because Republican moderates ran the show.
And if the Republican moderates nominate another Northeastern moderate Republican, they're gonna lose again because their base is gonna sit home.
The base does not want to hear that they are the problem in the Republican Party.
So the NRA, members of the NRA.
See, you gun owners, I have to tell you, you are seen in exactly the same light as pro lifers are seeing.
A bunch of pickup truck driving hayseed hicks who get to church on Saturday night to get a close parking space for services on Sunday.
And you go to things like ice cream socials.
And you do all this old-fashioned embarrassing stuff while wearing those weird orange hunting uniforms.
And you're embarrassing.
The guns and the NRA, they're going to be tossed in with the stack of other things that embarrass Republican moderates.
And that is, we've got to relax our stance on Amnesty Rush.
We're just gonna have to Rush, what are you gonna do about the Christians?
You've got to get this abortion issue off the table.
Well, add guns to it.
It's coming.
And the left knows this, by the way.
They know they've got years of experience of learning exactly how to make Republican moderates buckle.
Here's uh Chris in Atlanta, the home of the new popular show, All My Babies Mamas.
Welcome, sir.
Great to have you here.
Hey Rush, how are you doing?
Very well.
Glad to have you.
Hey, a treat to be on.
Um I just wanted to share with you something that I thought revealed the the ultimate hypocrisy of uh of our liberal friends.
And if you go back and you look at Monday's New York Times, there was a front page story on how the publisher of the journal news reacted to the uh to the angry response of gun owners who had been outed by her newspaper.
You remember that old story.
Yep, yep.
They published the names, addresses, and uh so forth of legal gun owners.
Exactly right.
I'm sure she was did not realize that possibly this would compromise their security and might reveal more information than any criminal would ever want to know.
But put put put that aside for a moment.
Oh, wait a minute now.
We know wait a second.
I know you're being sarcastic, but I don't want anybody to miss this.
We know exactly why the news journal did it.
You got it.
They wanted to point a finger of blame at these people.
The gun owner is the problem.
Even these are law-abiding people, they wanted them to be harassed.
They wanted them to be the focal point of harassment.
So that what happened was some people published, a blogger published a map with the home addresses of all the people that work in his newspaper.
And they had a cow.
When you turn journalism on journalists, they hate it.
A journalist cannot stand journalism committed on him.
That's exactly right, Rush.
And what happened was, and uh hopefully those in Rio Lindo did understand my note of sarcasm, you caught on to it.
So New York, so this lady, the journal news runs the names of all these gun owners.
Well, you can imagine there was a lot of blowback from people who didn't like that second, their second amendment being compromised.
So lots of complaints come into the publisher of the journal news.
Probably some threats among those.
What did that publisher of the journal news do?
As described in the New York Times.
She hired armed guards.
Well, of course.
And I'm glad to see they're permitted.
They're good people.
They would never use their guns to kill kids.
They'll use abortion for that.
Sorry.
I don't mean to make people nervous.
They would never see their good people.
It's like um.
Who was it the other day?
Oh, Kim Kardashians.
No, no.
It was it was Mariah Carey.
She figured out that Barbara Walter told her to Nikki Minaj called her an effing B. I. itch.
So Mariah Carey said, yeah, I had to ramp up my security.
What does that mean?
She had to go get a couple more guys with guns.
It's okay when those people do it.
But you turn journalism on a journalist, and that's one of the most fun pranks that you can play.
They can't.
They can't.
They can't deal with it.
We'll be back, folks.
By the way, folks, the armed security that the News Journal hired...
said they didn't see any threats against the editors.
After the blogger published the names and addresses of the journalists, they were not ramped up, but there weren't any threats against the editors.
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