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Dec. 17, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 17, 2012, Monday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 247 Podcast.
Ah no, no, no, no.
It's very frustrating because we're now immersed in many circumstances and situations where the last thing that anybody wants to hear are facts.
Now last thing anybody wants to compla contemplate is the real truth about something.
Instead, everybody wants to live in illusions and advanced political agendas.
Greetings, folks, great to have you.
Rush Limbaugh, the EIB Network.
And the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Telephone number if you want to be on the program 800 282-2882, the email address Lrushbo at EIBNet.com.
So much to say about this.
And I I sit here in full knowledge that were I to open up and share with you my genuine real thoughts about what's going on in this country.
I would I think we're looking at all the wrong places to solve all of these problems.
I think all these problems...
Remember, folks, I said during the presidential campaign, I said 25 years ago, we were warning about what was going to happen if X kept happening and Y kept happening and if we didn't stop Z...
Well now we're there.
We're no longer talking about what will happen unless we do something about it.
We're living it.
We're living the collapse.
We're living the implosion of our culture and our society, politically, morally, uh religiously, you name it.
And it all stems from the fact that no one is allowed to have values.
Values are judgmental.
You have no right to impose values on people.
So we've gotten to the point where nothing is really wrong.
There are just explanations for it.
And in practically every instance, the explanation and the proposed cure is nothing more than the advancement of a particular political belief or ideology.
In this case, liberalism.
But before we get into this in great detail, something I need to get squared here.
And I don't think it's nitpicking to do this.
As we got information here on Friday afternoon to tell you what was happening, we passed it along.
And it turns out it was all wrong.
It was all wrong in the substantive sense.
It's stunning, folks.
How wrong everything we were initially told was.
And I I believe that that also pinpoints or highlights a problem that we have in our culture because people only believe what they're told.
And if they're told a bunch of crap repeatedly and day in and day out, that's what they're going to end up believing.
Particularly low information people.
But almost all of the early news reports on the Sandy Hook shooting turned out to be wrong.
Almost everything that I passed on to you from the drive-by media on Friday turned out to be wrong.
The shooter's name was wrong, his age was wrong, who he shot was wrong, where he shot who he shot was wrong.
His mother did not work at the school.
She did not teach kindergarten.
She was not shot at the school, for example.
The shooter was not twenty-four-year-old Ryan Lanza.
The father was not shot.
I mean none of this.
None of this that we were told turned out to be remotely true.
There was no second shooter.
We were told that there was a second shooter, perhaps involved.
Now, all of these things were reported by well, I don't even want to pick one.
They all reported it.
CBS, ABC, NBC, and we were told with many of these items that all of it had been confirmed by authority.
CBS News confirms, ABC News confirms, CBS News confirms.
Now we we we try to be on the cutting edge here at the EIB network.
We try to be the firstest with the mostest.
But I'm gonna, if I got a fraction of the things wrong, that the drive-by media gets wrong, whenever there is breaking news like this, I would never hear the end of it.
And nobody would be trying to make excuses for me either.
Were I to have been so blatantly consistently wrong about this?
Nobody would be trying to make excuses.
They would simply be porting fingers of blame.
But now, ladies and gentlemen, it's completely acceptable.
Even expected from our media guards, and their quest to be first and their desire to get it right.
And you know why?
All of this stuff is wrong.
All of this stuff is wrong because the first thing that happens when a disaster like this hits is excitement.
Not pain.
Not tears, excitement at the opportunity to advance whatever political agenda fits into the event.
In this case, it happens to be gun control.
So that became the overriding informing characteristic of this story.
And therefore, every bit of news that they wanted to believe was true to make the gun look like it was the enemy here, then that's what became reported news.
They were in such a hurry to sensationalize the news.
Again, because they wanted to advance their agenda, that the basic rules of journalism got thrown out, like two sources or three sources just went out the window.
It's the same drive-by media.
Says they didn't want to rush into covering the attack in Benghazi, which killed uh what?
Four Americans.
They didn't want to be rushed into that till they had all the facts.
And they still don't have all the facts.
So they still don't want to rush into covering that.
And the person who has all the facts who could testify isn't going to, because she fell down, had a concussion the other day, and will no longer be Secretary of State when the hearings take place.
Same thing.
No desire, no rush, no interest whatsoever.
Had Fast and Furious manifested itself the way it was intended to, they would have covered that story the same way they covered Sandy Hook.
Because that was the objective with Fast and Furious.
Fast and Furious, if it's all news to Fast and Furious, the express purpose of Fast and Furious was to create throughout this country the exact emotions and energy that the story, the shootings in Sandy Hook at the Sandy Hook Elementary School created.
That was the design of Fast and Furious.
So you're sitting down and you're watching Sunday Night Football last night because you want to escape from all this.
And then you hear Al Michael say, oh, by the way, the president's going to speak, and we're going to be abandoning the coverage here for a while.
You can watch us over at our sports channel or at CNBC, but when the president speaks, he's in Connecticut and he's going to be speaking.
And the president shows up, so we're not doing enough.
We have to change.
And he correctly pointed out since he'd been president the fourth time that we have come together to comfort a grieving community torn apart by mass shootings.
Fourth time.
That's right.
Four mass shootings.
Still nowhere near the record.
You know what the record for mass killings was 1929.
John Fund has a great piece.
I'll get to it later today on statistics.
This is what I mean.
People aren't going to want to hear about this.
They're not going to care about it.
It won't matter, but I'm still going to pass them on to you.
Mass shootings are actually down in this country compared to years past.
There were a lot of them in the 50s.
There were a lot of them in the uh in the 20s and 30s.
But doesn't matter because this one happened and it was bad.
And we weren't alive in 1929, so who cares?
And a lot of people weren't alive in the 50s, so who cares?
It's just bad now, and there's an agenda to be advanced.
But you know, there's a fascinating thing that's happening out there, folks.
A lot of young people, spending a lot of time on the world wide web, came across a post last night at of all places, Gawker.com.
Gawker.com is a is a basically it's a militant homosexual site.
Entertainment, not militant.
It's a gay site.
And they posted something last night that had Facebook and Twitter a buzz.
And it was a post by a woman named Liza Long, and she said, I am Adam Lanz's mother, and she's got a child that she is scared to death is going to do this one day.
It prints out to four pages.
She describes how this son of hers is 13 threatens to kill her all the time, threatened to kill himself.
She has had to take him to uh mental hospitals.
And she claims all this talk about guns, it's not the problem here.
We've got a mental illness problem in this country that nobody wants to deal with because they don't want to really admit it.
They don't want to get to the bottom of finding out why.
Because when you find out why we've got all this mental illness, then you've got to start looking at the way we have determined that we're going to control little boys who are too rambunctious.
A lot of lot of agendas at play here.
There's a lot of political correctness and conventional wisdom.
And nobody wants to upset because during all of the ADD, ADHD, all this, everybody thought they were doing good things.
We thought they were doing wonderful things.
But they were being really progressive and forward-thinking and advancing and you know, chickafying the society and and and turning boys out of natural activities that they engage in, which turns them to video games and so forth.
You call you throw mental illness on top of this, and it doesn't matter what your gun laws are.
And this is the point that this woman makes in the post at Gawker.
And I'm telling you, it attracted a lot of attention.
It's it's uh I got the impression after looking at some of the the tweets and the Facebook postings after this that the left may be missing the mark here in their can't help themselves mass movement toward gun control.
We'll see.
Uh it seems like everybody is caving on everything these days, because it's just easier.
And to stand up and fight for it.
Boehner's gonna go ahead and agree to raising rates on the rich, which I'm not just gonna tell you doesn't surprise me.
And in addition to that, let's let's punt the debt limit for a year.
Let's take away whatever leverage we've got to do that.
This is a lot of things that have a lot of people scratching their heads.
or We cannot deny that all around us, institutions and traditions which used to provide the guardrails for our culture and society have been corrupted.
And those guardrails aren't there anymore.
They were torn down actually a long time ago.
And they are erected temporarily in certain places.
Now we find out, by the way, that the shooter's mother.
You know, if you tell the truth about this, or if you repeat the facts on this and then extrapolate and begin to analyze, you get yourself into big trouble, too.
Let me find it.
Here, let me give you the uh UK Daily Mail, as usual, foreign press has the story.
Nancy Lanza.
By the way, this to John Hindraker or Heindraker, I'm not sure he pronounces his name at Power Line has really done a great job of chronicling detail by detail everything the media got wrong.
I'll go through that for you in a second.
But turns out that Adam Lanz's mother believed that the economy was on the verge of collapse, as was the world.
She was a survivalist.
She stockpiled food and water and guns.
And she apparently, I don't know if we can believe any of this.
This is the problem.
I don't know what to believe now.
Now, this is the UK Daily Mail.
But she taught her son survival instincts, warned him of what was coming.
And I'm going to tell you, you can't take, if you're going to assess where we are as a culture, where we are as a society, you can't take the state of the economy out of the equation.
Whether you're talking about survivalists or not, you simply can't take the state of the economy out of the equation.
It has a lot of people scared to death.
People scared to death that the basics aren't going to be there.
Food, water, what have you.
Scared to death that the institutions and traditions that are there to protect them can't.
See all the stories.
You remember all the stories, if they were true, hell who knows.
Before the election, after the election, about gun sales really rising, ratcheted up, people buying guns left and right before the election, particularly after the election.
By the way, this woman was she was not poor.
I mean, her husband makes over a million a year, divorced husband, gives her $350,000 a year.
She lives in a nice house.
She was not poor.
This this is the upper middle class white family.
From which this young man came, look, I just saw the clock.
I've taken brief time out.
We'll do that, and we will come back and continue after this.
Don't go away.
Okay, the deadliest school attack in this country.
Deadliest school attack in American history was in 1927.
That was the Bath School murders.
38 children, seven adults were killed, including the killer himself.
Oh, he didn't use guns.
Used dynamite.
That's right.
No guns used in the deadliest school attack in American history.
But some people would say, well, wait a minute, Rush, what about Waco?
Waco holds the record.
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't technically a school.
But at Waco, 74 men, women, and children died, including twelve children under the age of five.
That, by the way, did involve guns.
In fact, the government guns, uh, tanks and flamethrowers.
A number of other things.
That was the attorney general Janet Reno.
Yeah, yeah, the deadly in 1927, the deadliest school at I know this doesn't matter because come on, Mr. Lumbaugh, none of us were alive in 1927.
You're the trying to divert people.
no, no, I always like to try to bring perspective to things.
Everybody, so I have this belief.
Everybody thinks that history began when they were born.
Everybody's historical perspective begins the day that they were born, and everybody thinks they're living in the last days.
Not everybody, but every generation has people that think it's over.
Every generation, from the beginning of time, has people who believe we are in the last days that we've re-whether biblically or otherwise.
And so if you can point to a time in American history when it was worse than it was today, just to keep a little perspective.
No, no, no.
This is the worst because there's a political agenda that has to be advanced.
So we're not going to talk about 1927.
We're not going to talk about dynamite.
We're not going to talk about Waco.
Because that doesn't help the agenda.
And don't discount the importance of the agenda.
No, it's true, it's undeniable.
Every generation, everyone has people who believe that the days they are alive are the last days.
That either in a biblical sense or an economic sense or just in an overall sense.
Now, the people who believe that today are divided into many groups.
They're called the preppers.
There are other groups that the survivalists and so forth.
Some of them believe that it is the result of an encroaching oncoming unstoppable big government.
Others believe that it's biblical.
Others believe it's going to have to do with the economy, that simply we're going to run out of stuff for everybody, and what you have is going to come down to what you can take.
There will not be a chance to earn any.
I mean, I think that's a fundamental characteristic of every generation.
But if look at let me give you one more stat about this.
The worst school killing in the nation's history.
Again, it took place in Bath Township, Michigan, back in 1927.
38 children, seven adults killed, including the killer.
He used dynamite, not guns.
And you know why?
His name was Andrew Kehoe.
K-E-H-O-E, 55 years old.
He was mad at being defeated in the election for town clerk in 1926.
Now, how do you stop that?
I mean, isn't that what everybody ostensibly is concerned about now?
How do you stop this?
And I'm just here to tell you that any effort focused solely on taking guns away from people is not going to solve this.
Do you know that there are mass killings that have been happening in schools all over the world?
Most recently in Germany, Finland, Canada, even in China.
And the killers in some of those incidents didn't use guns.
They used knives.
There have been at least six mass murder school attacks in China since 2010.
The total dead is 21, 90 have been injured.
None of the attacks in China involved guns.
They involve knives or cleavers.
One involved gasoline.
But you see, there's a political agenda here.
Okay.
And when this event happened, I knew that two things were happening immediately.
Aside from everything that we were being told about it being wrong, the media, Democrats and leftists were doing everything they could to find a way to blame this on their political opponents.
Not just on talk radio, not just on Fox News, but on Republicans, on conservatives or conservative values or something.
They were looking desperately to find a way.
And if you want to poo-poo that, I just want to remind you that after the Aurora mass shootings at the premiere of the Dark Knight Rises.
ABC News first reported the shooter was a member of a Tea Party in an effort to cast dispersions on peaceful, nonviolent conservative Republicans.
Of course it turned out not to be true.
After the event involving Gabby Gifford's, killed or well wounded badly in Arizona.
The first thing they did was try to blame Sarah Palin and then me.
Even went so far as to blame a graphic on Sarah Palin's website that featured crosshairs.
Without knowing anything, that was the knee jerk reaction, and the same thing was happening here.
The other part of the agenda that were the that was being advanced was of course gun control.
And there was glee, there was excitement, there was at the opportunity that was presented here.
And I firmly believe that this is why so much of the initial reporting is wrong is because it's all the result of a tainted universe in which these people live in the first place.
The things that they believe are wrong, the things that guide them are incorrect.
About us, at least.
And so they start looking for evidence to prove what they feel.
Because what they are constantly doing is attempting to advance their political agenda.
And that is what's going on with this now.
So any attempt to report factually about it, or to try to put it in any kind of perspective is going to be met with complete derision, criticism, mocking, and what have you.
When in fact the real sickness in this can be found in the left wing me.
Mark Maxie Shields.
What did he say?
Mark Mark Shields said it is easier to get an assault rifle than it is to rent a car.
Now that's not true.
It simply isn't true, but that kind of stuff is out there left and right, and of course, your average low information voter hears this and starts thinking, wow, what a what a rotten country.
What a rotten place, a horrible place.
It's just it's the the amount the the the sheer volume of incorrect data that is passed on.
John John Hindraker or Heindraker, I ought to find out how he pronounces it.
That's my bad.
But he had a post at Power Line.
He's a desperate to profit by satisfying the public's thirst for information.
News outlets, just about all of them, rushed to publicize facts that turned out to be largely wrong.
They reported that Ryan Lanza was a mass murderer when in fact Ryan Lanza's a respectable accountant who learned of the murders and his own alleged responsibility via CNN while working in his office in Times Square.
They reported the killer's younger brother was found in the woods after the murders was hauled out while protesting his innocence.
Adam Lanza didn't have a younger brother.
We've heard nothing further about the second person who supposedly had something to do with the killings.
They told us that Nancy Lanza was a kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook and was murdered in her classroom along with her students.
Turns out she had no connection to the school.
She was shot at home as she lay in bed, probably asleep.
They reported falsely that Lanza had murdered his father in New Jersey.
Fact after fact after fact, they were wrong, wrong, wrong.
And there's going to be more errors that will emerge over time.
And these people that are wrong, wrong, wrong, they are the primary news source for a vast majority of people in this country.
Now the broader and more important question relates to the news media's responsibility.
This is Mr. Hendraker writing Here.
The news media's responsibility for Sandy Hook and similar incidents.
It seems rather obvious that mass murderers like Adam Lanza are inspired in part by a desire for fame, which our news media are happy to supply.
Now let me make a brief departure at this point.
I have spoken often on this program of I've had a deep concern for a number of years over what I have seen throughout the young population.
This country is this quest for fame.
This desire to have everything known about them.
Just vomiting details about themselves all over Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, whatever.
It is a uh to me, it's it's it's been a serious problem.
Fame is a very seductive thing.
See, everybody, everybody wants to be known, and everybody wants their life to matter.
Everybody wants their life to have meaning.
You look at the influences on young people, and you primarily see it on television.
What is it that makes people famous?
Well, they have to be on TV.
Doesn't matter how either.
Just getting on TV, you're famous.
But many people are going to ask if, in fact, incidents like this feed off of one another.
For example, did the Aurora incident inspire something similar in this case, or did a video game do it, or did a movie.
You can go down, you can see Columbine.
What was that that happened?
Guys trying to copycat what they'd seen in the Matrix movies.
Then you had Aurora, a guy dressed up as the Joker from the Batman movie.
And you had people, others, other mass murderers emulating natural-born killers.
And you throw this out there as a as a possible, we're trying to find the answer, right?
We want to know why is this happening.
You go anywhere other than guns, you are going to be shot down.
No, pun intended.
You're you're going to be ridiculed and laughed off the public debate stage.
The same people who are eager to blame Sarah Palin or conservative talk radio or Republicans in general for aberrant acts of behavior like this are the very same people who deny that there is any comes from movies or books or music.
So as always, it's the selective application.
But if you really want to stop these from happening, if you really want to stop events like this, you have to take stock of reality, and you have to be very honest and assess where we are in American culture in 2012.
And you can't apply values from the 50s, 60s, 70s, or 80s.
Not or policies, I should say.
Values would work, but policies you can't apply them.
Bill Bennett was on Meet the Press yesterday.
You know what?
I'm not going to take a lot of heat for this.
I'm going to take a lot of heat for this, but I think there needs to be at least one responsible person in every school that's armed.
Why did he think he was going to take a lot of heat why does he think he's going to take a lot of heat for that?
The fact of the matter is that makes utter perfect sense.
And yet he has to acknowledge he's going to take a lot of heat.
You're going to get a lot.
Why?
Because everybody's focusing on the fact that the gun single-handedly is the problem.
You want to hear an interesting stat.
There are a couple of guys have done a lot of research into mass shootings.
One of John Lott and William Landis, they are economists.
They did a groundbreaking study in 1999.
You know what they found?
They found that a this is another thing that nobody's going to want to hear today.
It doesn't fit the template.
It doesn't fit the narrative that's been established.
A common theme of mass shootings is that they occur in places where guns are banned and killers know that they will be unarmed.
Shopping malls, schools is where they happen.
Mr. Limbaugh is a third, you're a third third telling us that a mentally disabled 13-year-old boy would take into account where they have a gun.
Yeah, I'm telling you, this kid was probably a lot smarter than anybody wants to recognize.
He probably had an IQ higher than a lot of people want to recognize.
He probably did calculate that.
One other thing that has been discovered is that these people, these mass murderers stop when a gun is pointed at them.
But saying this today is real trouble.
It doesn't fit the agenda.
Because it makes a gun the solution.
Oh no, can't have that.
You can't, you can't put guns and the word solution in the same sentence.
No, no, no, Mr. Limboy, you're missing the whole.
Our problem is too many guns.
Too easily obtained.
Well, if somebody can convince me, and this has been my argument forever when I run into these low information gun control people.
And by the way, some of the smartest, richest, wealthiest idiots I know happen to be pro-gun control.
And I gotta take a break here.
I'll tell you a little story that I've told before.
I'll repeat it, we get back.
Don't go away.
Okay, his name pronounced John Hindrocker.
All right, thank you for that.
Now, uh, ladies and gentlemen, I found myself uh in the 90s at a fashionable Upper Eastside dinner party in a palatial Fifth Avenue apartment owned by wealthy establishment Republicans, and the guests were wealthy establishment republicans.
And about 30% of them, and each one of these dinners all featured a political topic that was debated either during dinner or after.
And this one featured gun control.
And a man who had served in the Nixon administration, one of the wealthiest men in this country and one of the uh uh supposed smartest, began his diatribe on guns.
How he had to get rid of them.
It was senseless, it was stupid.
The second amendment, we had to abolish it.
And I said to him, and I'd say this to everybody that I run into that has this belief, so you know what I've I don't.
I I'll give you my gun if you can promise me that when I leave this apartment tonight, nobody else out there will have one either.
Well, of course that would be a little bit.
Well, that's my whole point.
I said, right across Fifth Avenue there is Central Park.
Now, if you can promise me that nobody in Central Park's gonna have a gun tonight when I walk out of your apartment, then maybe we can talk.
Well, that's a short-sighted view.
No, it's not short-sighted at all, sir.
Excuse me, but I did.
I said, You're just making this argument to make yourself look good, sound good, sound smart, sound whatever, but you're not thinking.
And no common sense in what you're saying.
They said, why do you care about it?
So I said, you know what cares?
I care about the Constitution.
The Constitution is the single greatest document of American or human liberty and freedom that has ever been devised.
And I get very touchy when people want to start messing with it.
And I do.
I think the Constitution is a human miracle.
I think the Constitution and adherence to it.
I agree with my friends at Hillsdale College.
Therein lies the solution to many of this country's problems.
That's why I am not wedded to guns or the second amendment.
I love them all.
The second amendment's as important as the first, as is important as the fifth to me.
I have a reverence and an awe For the Constitution.
And folks, let me tell you what this point.
The guns in our culture are the secondary target here.
The primary target is the Constitution itself.
That is what is under assault.
That is what is in the crosshairs of people who are using this tragedy to advance an agenda.
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