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Dec. 13, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 13, 2012, Thursday, Hour #3
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Greetings and welcome, ladies and Rush Limbaugh here, the EIB network, Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
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I want to go back, Mike, sound by 27 and 28.
Because this is major.
Well, it's not that big, I'm right so often that this is just another documentation.
But this is still pretty big because I say this absent ego, this is not ego.
But if I don't say it, nobody else will.
All of this talk, all this jabber walkie going on inside the beltway about the fiscal cliff and what's going on and what it's really all about.
Everybody has missed it, and the reason they've missed it is because they're looking at it to the usual template.
And one of the things in the usual template is everybody in Washington, Democrat and Republican, accepts they just believe that every president wants to reduce the debt.
And that every president wants economic growth, and every president wants to enhance his legacy with a roaring American economy.
And I've been maintaining that those don't apply to Obama.
He's a new president, different kind of guy.
We've not had a president like this.
We've not had a president with these kinds of designs or aspirations on the country.
Um Dr. Crowdhammer, any number of people will say, I don't think does Obama really want to start a second term with a recession?
It wouldn't care.
I'm here to tell you we're still in one.
For all intents and purposes, there is no real economic recovery going on.
There's not one Obama policy to date that is oriented towards economic growth, and there's nothing he's talking about now that is oriented toward economic growth.
That's not what's going on here.
Obama is is not he wants a legacy.
Don't you know what he wants his legacy to be?
He's the guy that fixed the fatal flaws of the founding of this country.
That's what he wants.
He can't wait for the historians in Europe and the approved United Nations scholars to write that he is the one, Barack Obama, after 230 years, who finally corrected the fatal flaws of the founding of the United States of America.
A racist nation?
A nation which discriminated and enslaved its own citizens and enshrined that in its constitution, what he believes.
A nation which has plundered the world's resources for its own gain.
A nation which has spread poverty around the world as a result of plundering other nations.
This is what he believes.
I'm not saying this.
And by the way, I'm not even trying to convince anybody of it in terms of elections, the election's over.
None of this that I'm saying is going to be practical result, other than the thing I'm most profoundly interested in, and that's being people being properly informed.
It's all I've ever cared about here.
For twenty-five years, I've I've bought into what is now the silly notion that an informed electorate makes the best decisions to preserve the country, but our electorate's not informed.
I have not been able to overcome, and nor have any of my colleagues, we have not been able to overcome decades of corruption in the education system.
From K all the way up through the academy.
Universities.
This hasn't been enough to overcome that corruption.
You know, 15 hours a week of truth telling and instruction, economic explanation, so forth, just can't do battle.
Particularly when the left for 25 years has done its best to destroy or harm my credibility with people that don't listen to program.
And as such, we we now, among the people that vote, are being governed by morons, people that are low information and what they do know is wrong.
Voters.
And I'm telling you, Barack Obama does not have the same presidential goals that everybody inside the beltway who analyzed politics assigns to him.
Most normal presidents would be concerned about this debt.
It'd be uh unacceptable, untenable.
Would have something would have to be done about it.
And the fact the economy is sitting here just wallowing in the muck for four years.
Normal president would have to do something about that, would want to.
Your average everyday American president would want prosperity for as many Americans as possible.
We're not dealing with the president like that.
We're dealing with a president who thinks that we must endure years of pain in order to fix the fatal flaws of the founding.
We have a president who doesn't believe in the things you and I believe in in terms of where prosperity comes from and how it's achieved.
To him, prosperous people today are illegitimate.
The achieved, the successful uh they're the recipients, the beneficiaries of a stacked decker rigged game, and he's out to level the playing field.
He's out fix it.
Spread the wealth around, redistribute the wealth for the people to unfairly and unjustly have it all.
And that's what his policies are about.
They're not about economic growth.
are not about.
In addition to that, he is a pure thoroughbred politician who wants to wipe out all opposition.
He's a statist in that regard.
He He doesn't want debate with John Vane, doesn't want debate with any Republicans.
He doesn't want any political opposition to have any chance whatsoever.
He does rather than defeat them in the normal arena of ideas.
What Obama wants is to just eliminate them.
Now he's never going to be able to eliminate them, but he can certainly render them so small that they're never a factor in terms of opposition, and that's what he's trying to do.
Therefore, to me it's a logical thing to assume and it's in its it's uh unmistakable, and it's impossible not to see what he's really after.
He believes the founding of the country was unjust and immoral.
Country has been fatally flawed from the beginning.
The people that who have enjoyed the uh bounty of this country are not the ones who truly deserved it.
The ones who truly deserve it were the ones who discriminated against, who were enslaved, who uh uh were denied access in favor of the rigged game among a small, very small group of elitists.
And they're the targets now.
And in the process, what he wants to do is convince everybody to what he believes, and that is these Republicans and the descendants of the founders are the reason this country's the mess it's in.
The reason you don't have a decent job is not him.
He's trying to fix that.
The reason you don't have a decent job is because all these stupid Republicans and conservatives and these people believe in the free market, people that believe in entrepreneurism, individual, rugged individualism, all that's for suckers.
That's a line of path that you've been sold your whole life, and everybody in this country's been sold their whole life.
So what his objective is to get the Republicans to admit all of this, that it is their policies that have caused the economic mess that we're in.
The tax cuts from Reagan, the tax cuts from Bush, the tax cuts prior to that, conservative policy, economic policy everywhere.
That what whatever policy from the days of the founding of this country that led to the current situation of inequality, the gap of income and wealth and so forth, that's not fair, it's not right, we've got to fix it.
And he wants everybody to understand who's responsible for it as he wipes them out.
And part and parse, this this fiscal cliff deal is his golden opportunity to get the Republicans to admit what he believes.
To admit that their ideas, by the way, not just their ideas, that their implemented policies have led to this mess.
He wants the Republicans to confess to it, to concede to it.
He wants every American to believe it.
So that there's no such thing as a politician advocating tax cuts ever again who will win.
That's the objective.
No more tax cuts, no more of this free market, Nick, and no more.
That's not going to happen anymore because look at what it led to.
What it led to is where we are right now.
Everybody's in misery.
And it's going to be tough for a while.
He says the fix is not instant.
It's going to be a while.
It's going to take a while to take all that money from people.
It's going to take a while to make sure people have been shut out of the health care system.
Now get it.
It's going to take a while.
Ten, fifteen years for single-payer health coverage.
And today, Jay Carney, the White House spokesman, admitted all of this.
Jay Carney admitted that I, your humble little host here, am dead on right about this.
And so we go back to the sound bites.
The daily briefing.
A reporter basically is asking Carney, look, you guys aren't negotiating.
You're not offering any spending cuts.
You're not offering anything.
Republicans have given you what you want here, a little bit of what you want there, but but you're not negotiating.
What the hell is with you guys?
In 2001, he fiercely advocated for the massive tax cuts that President Bush insisted on, again in 2003, that went disproportionally to the wealthy, promising that they would lead to economic growth and a middle class that was better off.
Let me just say that while I personally am very fond of John Boehner, his record of predicting what would happen if certain policies, economic policies were instituted, is abysmal.
You see, there it is.
Bush tax cuts 2001, 2003, those guys all thought we're going to have uh middle class better off economic growth.
It didn't happen.
You see, what's happened the last four years is not relevant to the way things are today.
It was the Bush years.
That's why he keeps blaming Bush, by the way.
And people, by the way, do too.
A majority of people that voted for Obama blame the Bush economy for this mess.
He has succeeded in making a majority of people who vote think that.
Therefore, they're admitting now.
Look at Boehner, he's the problem.
Boehner's policies are the problem.
We're not going to adopt this anymore.
We're not going for spending cuts.
We're not going to do what they said anymore.
Look where it looks.
Now I don't know about Obama.
Jay Carney knows he's full of it here.
Jay Carney know this is all a bunch of crap.
But he's got a lie for his boss.
Obama, I don't know.
I uh I think Obama knows exactly what he's doing.
I think I think he understands that capitalism is the best, but he just doesn't like it because it doesn't take him where he wants to go.
But uh for these guys to act like nothing they've done in these four years has contributed to this mess, that is just unbelievable.
But that's what they're saying, and a majority of voters agree with them that all these last four years have been is an attempt to fix all these Republican mistakes from Reagan on, from the founding on.
If Obama would hear, he'd say, you know what, you're right, I can't in four years fix what went wrong for 230 years.
It's gonna take me longer than that.
And there's gonna be some pain along the way.
And I'm sorry, but that's what we're gonna have to endure to get to where this country should have been from the beginning.
That's what's happening here.
And Carney's just admitted it.
The objective is to get Boehner to agree 2001-2003 tax cuts, all those promises.
Nope, didn't happen.
Dead wrong.
In fact, just the opposite happened.
And then Kearney, he wasn't finished, he said this.
Because after 1993, after that budget plan it was passed, uh, we saw record economic growth.
We saw record job creation.
We saw the middle class strengthened and made more secure, and we saw uh vast amounts of wealth created in this country.
In the aftermath of those two massive tax cuts in 2001 and 2003, that President Bush authored and then Congressman Boehner advocated.
We saw uh stagnation for the middle class, we saw anemic economic growth, and then the worst financial Crisis of our lifetimes, not to mention surpluses turned into deficits.
So there you have it.
The Clinton policies of getting rid of the Reagan tax cuts, raising taxes.
Clinton's tax increases, record economic growth, record job creation, middle class strength and made more secure, vast amounts of wealth created in the Clinton years.
Once we abandoned Reaganism.
And then we went back to it, and we had those tax cuts, and here we are again.
And Carney said, we're just not going to do it anymore.
We're not going to try it their way to their way doesn't work.
Their way destroys this country.
Why, we even had a surplus, and they destroyed that.
Bush destroyed this the Clinton surplus.
And now this recession is worse than the Great Depression.
He also makes that point.
Don't doubt me on this, folks.
This is dead straight exactly what is happening.
And what we have for you next is what they want from Boehner.
This is what they want from Boehner.
In a lighter mode, uh, ladies and gentlemen, the Washington Post has posted a map of the seven countries where the state can execute you for being an atheist.
Oddly enough, they're all Muslim countries.
I just want to try to lighten the mood here a little bit.
They got very serious with my truthful dissertation on what Obama's really after here.
So just to lighten it up a little bit, uh Washington Post, seven countries where the state can execute you for being atheists.
They're all Muslim countries.
They're Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, the Sudan, West African state of Mauritania, and uh Demoldeves, an island nation in the Indian Ocean.
Can't be an atheist if you get shot.
Which I don't know.
Need an Arab Spring.
Exactly right.
you Back to the phones.
Who's next?
It's Joe in Pittsburgh.
Welcome, sir, to the EIB network.
Hello.
Well, hello, Rush.
Merry Christmas to you.
Thank you.
And the same to you, sir.
Thank you, sir.
Rush, the reason I'm calling is I heard you talking earlier in one of your monologues about some of the ill effects of the new health care acts that have passed.
And today, my wife and I got some firsthand experience with that.
Well, let me review, because it's not just some of the ill effects.
It's the fact that 18 Democrat senators, a bunch of hospitals, and doctors are now asking for waivers from them.
After they all supported it in a senator's cases, having voted for it.
Well, you know, Rush, they're smart to ask for that.
Uh today, my wife visited her primary care physician for a normal annual physical.
And as part of the physical, the uh physician started running through a list of screenings that my wife should have.
It was fairly expensive.
And you know, normally when the physician tells you they want you to take a number of tests, there's a little bit of concern.
Is something wrong?
Are they seeing something?
So obviously my wife asked that, is everything okay?
And the doctor said, yes, everything's fine.
No, no specific issue, but you should have these screenings.
And she went on, the the uh physician went on to tell my wife that uh if she didn't, and particularly if a health issue would come up later related to one of these areas that a screening could have caught that our expense in treating it would be higher because of the new health care laws.
Now, wait just a second.
I am conflicted because I have been under what I know is the correct impression that Obamacare reduces screenings as a cost control measure.
They are reducing the number of mammograms, and they're starting later in life for women.
Uh so this is kind of confusing to me.
Now, they're saying if you don't get screened and you come up with a disease, the screen could have caught, it's gonna cost you more.
Is that what you're being told?
That's that was what we understood the physician to be telling us, yeah.
Well, I don't know.
Well, what isn't gonna cost more?
I it's probably true.
Nothing gets cheaper.
Well, it it doesn't, Rush.
But you know, the point, uh my biggest concern is here is the government telling us what we have to or don't have to do.
Well, exactly.
That's the whole point of health care, and it's it's gonna be it's gonna expand way beyond health care.
Everything is related to health care.
What you eat, where you don't, where you go, how you get there, the kind of car you drive, you're gonna be able to control all of that as it relates to health care costs.
Well, and and here uh from from where I'm sitting in my understanding of this, this is it launching right now.
Right now.
This is it watching?
Launching.
Launch, oh, launch it.
Yeah, it is.
Exactly.
It is.
You're right.
You have swerved right into it there.
Just your average trip to the doctor for a checkup.
Look at what you learned.
Well, yeah, and you know, uh every one of those procedures carries with it its own risk.
You know, they're minimal, but you still have them.
You don't have the choice of deciding if you want to take that risk or anything.
Yeah, I know, but you know what?
I I really um I remember being told that Obamacare was gonna cut down on unnecessary tests.
Apparently that's another lie.
Because you're you you're hearing just exactly you gotta get unnecessary tests at the moment as an insurance policy against maybe coming down with a disease later.
Exactly.
Well, you know, this is why old fogies like me keep, you know, talking about freedom.
There's no there's no faster way, Rachel, to date yourself and make yourself sound like an old fashioned, totally out of it gummer by talking about freedom.
That's for so many years ago.
What the hell is that?
Freedom.
Well, but that's uh the hippie freedom is a different kind of that no, no, no, no.
That that that's different kind of freedom.
Um but still uh I get your point on that.
And the the hippies are now old gummers.
The 60s generation hippies of baby boomers are getting into gummer age.
And they've uh I'm telling you, start talking about free.
It's a f it's the fastest way to find out you're talking to somebody old, decrepit, and out of it.
Joe, I appreciate the call.
Thanks for the heads-up display there.
This is Angela Northern Virginia.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hi.
Christmas baking, Christmas cookies baking dittoes, Rush.
Well, thanks, thanks.
That's that we're gonna be doing that in the house tonight.
We're baking all kinds of stuff.
For other people, of course, not for me.
Yes, exactly.
Well, I I think that uh many of us already know that liberals have been using taxpayer taxpayer public dollars dollars to indoctrinate and to social engineer significant uh part of our society.
We know that decades ago, liberals bought and courted community leaders and pastors and created urban sections of the city newspapers and hired minority reporters.
We know this has been going on a long time.
That's right.
And two conservatives, I think, are willing to do nation building in our own nation with private sector dollars, which mean our own dollars to capture the heart and minds of information voters.
This is an interesting point, Angela.
There's a there's a professor of law at the University of Tennessee named Glenn Reynolds, and he has a column today saying that Republicans are wasting money buying advertising, that what they need to do is sort of what you're saying.
Go out and actually buy some media, and he uses as an example women's magazines.
He says, if you don't believe me, go get a red book, go get a ladies' home journal from this past summer.
Go get any one of those things.
And yeah, you'll see the the usual stories on makeup and hair and that stuff, but you'll see also a guaranteed at least every issue, one or two stories bashing Republicans and building up Obama and the Democrats.
And these these are, of course, the audience for these magazines targeted to uh largely single women, but women in general.
Well, well, Russ, see what I'm seeing is that you know, many of the uh Democrats, people that vote Democrat, they don't even understand that a lot of um the the engineering or the moral decline that we see in our country is because of liberal engineering.
Uh um a lot of the stuff Angela, can I ask you a quick do you think they even care about the moral decline?
Yes, absolutely.
I I I know that I know that a lot of people care.
They just don't know what to do or know where to go.
They don't even know what the causation is.
And I think really if we're going to save our country if our country is worth it to us, we will invest in making sure that these people know who and what the Democrat Party is, what type of engineering they have been doing.
I am I am all for that and the Republican Party has refused to do it.
The Republican Party has refused to identify the opposition.
They have refused to explain what it is we're up against.
Well Rush we're gonna have to decide ourselves um I think conservatives are just going to have to decide that that we want to uh go into these communities and I keep saying that over and over again because we we stand outside and point about these communities and and they're not voting for us.
We don't know how to reach them and I think because we're not willing to spend and invest.
Now we know that the Democrats been using taxpayer dollars.
They've been using it in the school systems.
They've been using it for the after-school programs.
They've been using it in a lot of these newspapers that they buy up in court, some of the pastors and preachers and all these things.
They've been using a lot of taxpayer dollars, even in the stimulus.
They've been using all of that to indoctrinate, to just social engineer a lot of people.
And again, in turn, we have a lot of people that just cannot understand why it is that their children have to go to these schools and be taught that two men marrying or two women marrying is the right thing.
is it that their children are being taught these things and their their vote are is the reason why they're changing I'm not being facetious.
I I please don't don't misunderstand my tone here.
I don't intend there to be a tone are you really telling me that these people don't understand the Democrat parties behind that?
Exactly right.
That's exactly what I'm telling you.
That's exactly what I'm and I'm and I'm saying this from experience Rush I've been uh Well who do they think is Republicans um Republicans are pushing Heather has to wait a minute they think Republicans are pushing all this moral decay or what yes yes and I tell you Rush I've been a uh um wait how can that be the re because the Republicans are homophobes.
Angela, the Republicans are said to be homophobes and racists and say, how in the world can Republicans be blamed, at least for the homosexual stuff you describe?
Well, what I'm saying is that they believe that a lot of this stuff is just another type of, when you have people teaching victimization, they think it's another way to victimize the black community or victimize this community or that community.
And the only people that are interested in victimizing communities are Republicans, are conservatives.
And so, and I tell you, I've been voting conservative or Republican for about 15 years.
And before that time, the things that I thought about the Democrat Party, once I've, found out the truth I I could not I I I was disappointed in myself but I was more disappointed in people who I thought knew better that did not teach me so that I would know better.
Angela how did you find out no how did you find out that the Democrats were doing this fifteen years ago you said you were shocked and surprised how did you learn well I'm kind of embarrassed to say it but I started paying attention.
It was as simple as that.
But to what what was it that got your attention?
Well I started watching um I started watching the House and the Senate on C SPAN and whenever I saw it was um Sheila Jackson Lee and um the Maxine Waters and I thought they were my heroes.
I'm ashamed to say it I am ashamed and embarrassed to say it but I did.
And they were arguing why why should uh uh they legislate they young girls should be able to cross state lines to get abortions and their argument I could not believe I was just I I couldn't believe it.
All that time I thought that they were going that they were on the floor of Congress arguing to make sure that black people don't look at the let me ask you this and I I'm running out of time but I gotta ask you this.
The people you're talking about consider abortion to be part of the moral decline?
Yes.
They can't associate that with Republicans.
I mean the they do rush.
They do, because again, as long as it's about victimization, they they want black people to kill themselves.
They want there's a lot of things that people simply don't know because we let other people go into their communities during election time and say they want to turn back the hands of time.
They think that's all the issue there is.
They want to turn back the hands and put you back in chains.
That's what they think.
I believe that.
No, no, I believe that.
I guess I'm getting too specific with it.
So when you say that they believe that Republicans want the black population to eliminate itself, I can believe they're taught that.
And that they believe it.
I just never associate it with a boy.
Well, I'm just saying that Republicans need to hire you, Angela.
Say it again.
Republicans need to hire you.
Well, I think that we need to hire ourselves into the communities and and and show them who and what the Democrat Party really is.
I am convinced that, and I know a lot of people who vote Democrat, and I'm telling you they they think I'm crazy, they won't listen to me.
You did they're telling you anything.
That's not true.
I it is they I know.
I hear you.
I hear you.
I've I I know exactly what you're talking.
Look at Angela.
Angela, look, it's Christmas time.
I want to uh I want I want to give you a Christmas present.
You can um obviously use your you you you will put it to use.
Let me give you your choice.
Okay.
I have uh lap MacBook Pro computers, I've got iPads, iPad minis, and iPhone fives.
What would you like?
Uh the the first one, the lap book pro.
Okay.
Uh 13 inch or 15 inch.
Bigger's better.
Take the 15 inch then.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
You hang on, and we'll get your address and we'll FedExit out to you tomorrow.
Don't go away.
Mr. Snerdley will get your address here.
It's a fastest week in media, folks, and that's it for Thursday.
And that means that tomorrow's open line Friday, where you have a golden opportunity to run the show.
Whatever you want to talk about on Friday is what we talk about.
We kick it all off in uh twenty one hours, so sit tight.
We'll be back before you know it.
Have a great evening, and thanks so much for being with us today.
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