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Massive protests outside Morsi's house in Cairo, the home of the new president, a new dictator of Egypt.
Massive protests.
And I'm sorry.
I know folks I should not feel this way, but I have a little Shaden Freud.
I just do.
I said, okay, look at you got what you voted for.
You got what you said you wanted.
You didn't like Mubarak.
Fine, he's gone.
And you thought you were getting something else.
Uh it's you you if the fact that you didn't know what you were voting on has led to this situation that you're in in Egypt.
It's gonna happen here.
I don't think massive protests, I don't know, but they're gonna be a lot of people.
I don't know how long it's gonna take, but there will be people.
And I say, this is not what we thought we were vote.
We thought this would happen in the first four years.
But it's gonna happen in in the next four.
People are gonna wake up.
That's not what I voted for.
It's gonna be too late.
This 3.8% investment taxes, surtax on capital gains.
That is why so many companies are being sold right now.
Before this tax kicks in.
This is why people who receive dividend income are being are asking for it to be paid this year before this stuff kicks in.
People that have the ability to move income to this year are taking it.
That's why you're seeing people sell stock.
All these executives selling stock in their own companies to the tune of 20 million here, 35 million there, 8 million over there.
I've seen all of those.
It's to take the money now before the uh the new tax rates kick in.
Now the example I gave on your house, I made one mistake, but not in the amount that you owe.
I give you an example.
You sell your house for 400,000 dollars.
200,000 of that is subject to the new 3.8% surtax on capital gains.
So whatever your capital gain is, you're gonna have a 3.8% surtax added to the 20% that it's gonna become.
So you're looking at basically 24% capital gains rate.
So if you sell your house and if your house is appreciated, and you moving into a bigger house, the government's gonna tax you nine percent more than you're paying now on whatever the gain is in the house that you sell.
And this is just one rule of the two rules that are going into effect on January 1 for health care, the Obamacare taxes, the uh the investment taxes oh, and and then the Obamacare tax is basically a 1% addition to the income tax rate.
Paul Ryan was on the radio in Wisconsin today, and he said we are nowhere close.
With fact, Paul Ryan said we are farther away today on a deal with Obama than we were when this whole thing started.
And a lot of people are now realizing what you and I have have have known for four years.
Obama's economic policies are not about the economy.
In this case, case of the fiscal cliff.
I could make the case all day that Obama and the Democrats want to go over it.
Now they wouldn't go over it if they get a deal that they if somebody came along and offered Obama 1.6 trillion dollars in new taxes with no spending cuts, he'd take it.
But maybe even then he wouldn't.
Because then he can say if I can get 1.6, maybe I could get two trillion if these guys are willing to deal.
So who knows?
But going over the fiscal cliff is exactly what Obama wants.
And it's all made possible by the fact that the media is Obama.
We go over the fiscal cliff.
That means that every deal reached as part of the debt limit increase goes into a defense cuts of a trillion dollars.
Is it a trillion dollar?
No.
Defense cuts of uh well, it's serious.
It's big.
Uh, and new taxes.
The Bush tax rates expire, additional taxes on top.
And by the way, middle class taxes will go up.
And I guarantee you that everybody in the middle class that's paying attention halfway thinks that their taxes aren't going up, no matter what happens, because they've heard politicians of both parties swear off of that.
No way.
So they're out there believing that their taxes aren't going up.
If we go over to Cliff, everybody's taxes are going up, including the middle class.
The first paycheck everybody gets in January will feature massive income tax increases.
The pay, the take home pay is gonna be smaller, and people are gonna be shocked.
And then a made-to-order circumstance for Obama, he gets to blame Republicans for it.
Because they refused to make a deal with him.
He was doing everything he could to keep middle class taxes down.
But the Republicans, and here's the story, the Republicans just wouldn't agree to raising taxes on the rich.
The 1%, now it's the 2%, by the way, just wouldn't agree to raising taxes.
Those Republicans only care about the rich.
And they held out.
So you people in the middle class, your taxes are going up because the Republicans want to protect the rich.
The Republicans are gonna be running around going, uh, but uh but uh but uh uh but it won't matter.
And as the Republicans are running around saying, but no, but but Obama's gonna say they don't care about you.
All they care about is the rich and the Wall Street tycoons.
They did everything they could to keep those people, but I, President Obama, I'm come along, and he's then gonna propose a middle class tax cut.
To protect people from what the Republicans, this is made the order for him going over the cliff.
Because what he gets to do is what he really wants to do.
This guy wants to wipe out the Republican Party.
Barack Obama A dislikes everything about the Republican Party and everything about conservatism.
He blames it.
He thinks people like you and me are the reason this country is the way it is, and he doesn't like it the way it is, and he never has.
So in addition to getting all of the economic policies he want that will totally transform this country and turn it into a redistributionist socialist Marxist country, he gets to destroy the Republican Party, he thinks in the process.
That's his objective.
And I'm I'm glad now to see, and I wish this kind of talk would have been heard during the campaign.
Dr. Krauthammer and others are now even David Rodham Gurgen, CNN has pointed out what Obama wants to do is destroy the Republican Party.
Well, we've known this for four years.
And by the way, that isn't anything new.
The Democrat Party has wanted to destroy the Republican, not just beat us, they've wanted to destroy us for a long time.
We don't have that view about them.
We we're comfortable beating them, but it's we're nobody's running around trying to conceive of ways to annihilate them to wipe them out.
But they are with us.
Don't care what you think of it.
I don't, I don't, I don't care if you think that's not what politics is, it most certainly is.
If Obama could turn this into a one-party country, you don't think he would, FDR tried.
And I think FDR is one of his role models.
So going over the cliff is entirely amenable to him.
But Rush, but Rush, what about all the economic pain to where's the evidence he cares about any of that now?
Folks, people's home values have been plummeting, unemployment's been skyrocketing, income has been falling.
Where for four years, where is the evidence he cares about any of that?
In the traditional political, he doesn't.
Why all of a sudden is he gonna start caring now?
It's gonna only get worse.
And the math is the math.
You keep going like this.
There's there's there's there's no amount of economic growth that can overcome what he's planning.
Because the math is the math.
And the more money he takes out of the private sector, the less there is of it for people in the private sector to earn.
And the less money that there is in the private sector, there's a corresponding decline in the chance to create wealth, because it's all being transferred to the government for ostensible redistribution.
And by the way, anybody who thinks that Obama has a debt reduction policy has another thing coming.
By the time he leaves office in four more years, we're going to have a national debt in excess of 20 trillion dollars.
There will not be any deficit reduction.
There will not be any smaller budgets.
There won't be any dents made in the national debt.
There aren't even any plans for it.
Just a bunch of uh just a bunch of words.
Now the sequestration, which is part of the debt limit bill, this is what the fiscal cliff is all about, would lop 500 billion dollars out of defense over the next ten years.
50 billion in 2013.
It's almost over over ten years, according to the Washington Times, it is a trillion dollars.
Because there was a 490 billion dollar cut in 2011.
So over ten years you're looking at a trillion dollars cut out of defense, and that's the only but it's not even those cuts in defense are not going to result in a smaller federal budget.
That money's going to be used for other stuff.
Santa Claus.
Making whole some unfunded pensions for union people, things like that.
Obama's preferred citizens.
And in the process, he gets to uh in his mind, decimate the Republican Party.
And Obama's modus operandi has been if he can take, you know, all the people talk about leveling the playing field.
Obama doesn't want anybody in the opposition to even be on the field, whether it's a level field or not.
His modus operandi is to eliminate opposition, not just defeat it.
Once you eliminate it, you don't have to worry about defeating it.
It's not there in the first place.
Okay, we're back, and we go to the phones.
We are going to start with Jason in Dallas.
Great to have you, sir, on the EIB network.
Hello.
Thanks, Rush.
Hello, how are you today?
Very good, sir.
Thanks.
It's great to have you here.
Great.
I've been listening to you for most of my adult life, and I wanted to take you back to one of what I think was one of your best CI told you so moments.
Cool.
That was one of the uh during the the 2000 GOP Republican uh primary for the president's uh the presidency, George W. Bush was being touted by we didn't call it that back then, but essentially the Republican establishment.
And the argument they used was that he was the most electable.
And I remember listening to your show and hearing you take call after call, just you you just took a pounding because you were saying that what we needed to do was elect the most conservative nominee possible, because if we didn't, and we elected a moderate or someone who is trying to appease or get along with Democrats,
as we saw George W. Bush do, that then that brand of republicanism would be branded as conservatism to the populace at large, and the middle to underinformed voters would assume that that's what conservatism was and would end up electing a far-left radical liberal administration, and exactly what you said twelve years ago has has come to pass.
Yes.
In fact, it it's it's true, and it's really it's really maddening that squishy moderate political behavior is now called conservatism, and then the and then real conservatism as a result is now called extremist looney tunes.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And and I think you had uh Mark Stein was on for you last week, uh a couple of days, and he had a great way of describing where we are today, and that's we have essentially a European party, which is the Democrat Party, and then we have an American Party, which is the Republicans, but they're so so much uh a shadow and hollowed out version of the original vision that essentially their argument now is we can run the state and the statist government slightly more efficiently than they can.
As much distance as they can put between the the whole argument against statism is gone.
It's just now a matter of who's more competent.
We can do it better than you can.
We can do it smarter than you can.
We can do it more efficiently than you can, which is not conservatism.
It's not conservatism.
It's it's completely away from the the easy to understand arguments that Ronald Reagan made over and over and over and over that people that resonated with people because that's the American soul.
That's our identity is I'm responsible for my for my dreams or for my results.
No, you're not.
Not anymore.
A, it's not right that you have any such dreams.
And and B, uh the government, the government is the source of prosperity.
That's what a lot of people think.
Absolutely, absolutely.
But I just want to I've been trying to call you for four years now.
Finally got in today, and I wanted I I just wanted to take you back and it's a totally a C I told you so.
You I appreciate that.
I really Jason, you're you're right on the money, because one of the one of the one of the offshoots of that is that mainstream conservatism, if with the Republican Party equals conservatism in people's minds.
So when the Republican Party waters it down, and it's it's just a bunch of quivering jello moderation that is called conservatism.
That's not attracted to anybody.
And then over Ferdinand, real conservatives are still holding out, they then are called extremist nutcase wackos.
And it's it has contributed to the branding or marketing problem that that uh that exists.
But you think it back to 2000, I'll I'll tell you folks, in case you've forgotten.
One of the reasons that George W. Bush was lapping the field, he came out of nowhere if if you recall, George W was the governor of Texas, but back then everybody thought that the next Bush to be president would be Jeb.
Jeb was the uh governor of Florida, he was considered to be uh very uh conservative and so forth, and then George W. comes out of nowhere.
And the way he did it was fundraising.
Bush was raising money like nobody, and and there was shock and surprise, people scratching their heads, how's this happening?
This guy's not even on our radar.
But he and Rove had come up with a massive fundraising operation, started when he was a Texas governor, and it left everybody in the dust.
And by the time we got around to the primaries, Bush was a fate accompli.
And by the way, he was campaigning as a conservative in the early stages of the Republican primary.
It wasn't until later that he started throwing in this compassionate conservatism line, and I think he was out west somewhere when he said we don't want to balance the budgets on the backs of the poor.
And this is what our first caller is referring to, start watering it down.
And there was a lot of outrage over that.
But by that time, Bush had had secured things.
But it was the money that he was raising.
Mu much like Romney, by the way, it was the money.
You can't compete with if you don't have it, there's there's nothing you can do.
Very little.
You have to be an amazing intellect and personality, tremendous cur uh charisma to over because you don't have the media on your side.
So you have to have some ability to power through all of the noise and shine.
And if you if you can't do that, you're not going to overcome a financial disadvantage.
And believe me, Bush had a financial advantage that shocked everybody.
I'll never forget it.
Because back then it was Jeb.
Really, Jeb was thought to be the heir apparent.
Here's uh Albert San Francisco.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
Um, I was one uh I had a question.
Um in today's Washington Examiner, Brian York writes an article about how the Republicans are going to cave, it's just a matter of when.
So my question to you is why are these Republicans playing the song and dance when I think, well, I think, and I think from Byron York's article that they are gonna cave.
So why are they just why don't they just cave now?
That's the question.
That would hurt fundraising.
Why do you think?
Why do you think if they're gonna cave, if you if you believe what Byron wrote, why do you think they're going through the motions?
Exactly what you just said for fundraising and not to look weak, but you know they're eventually gonna cave, though.
So wait a minute now, who won the election?
Obama won the election.
Yeah, and and and and Morsey.
Obama and Morsi won the election.
Right.
And that's the other thing, Rush.
Is that every time I see a Republican on TV, they say the same thing.
Obama won.
So that's uh they've already lost already.
They've already every time I see McCain on TV, Obama won, or a Republican on TV, Obama won.
Just like, don't you guys have any fighting?
Yeah, but yeah, but the Republicans won the House.
Right.
But from what they're saying, it's like they've already given up.
I I guess I'm I don't understand why they're just uh they've already given up.
Um is that your interpretation after after reading Byron's piece?
It is, yeah.
If you read the article, it's called the case.
I don't know.
Tough tough to say that they've given up.
I I do think they're still shell-shocked.
Uh and they're feeling pretty powerless.
They've held the cards before, didn't ever use them.
Say, quick question.
If we go over the fiscal cliff, does that equal the Republicans caving?
You can make an argument that it does not mean the Republicans have caved.
Going over the fiscal cliff means the Republicans have not given Obama what he wants.
You could say they are hanging tough.
You could also say they might be they'd better be ready to to fight for their life because that's what's going to be on the other side of it, because they're gonna be blamed for it and they better be ready for it.
But you you you might other people uh say that we've already lost the debate because we're now talking about how much to increase taxes instead of how much to decrease spending.
And that's true too.
The argument that everybody's waging is how much new revenue.
And somewhere over there they're discussing spending cuts.
And of course, they're not gonna be part of the deal, even if there is one.
They'll be a part of the deal ten years down the road, which means they'll never happen, as is the usual case.
But some people think, look, as long as you're gonna fight it, fight it.
And if you're gonna fight it, make your take your stand on spending cuts.
And the Republican leadership has decided that in order to get any spending cuts, they're gonna have to go along with some sort of revenue increase.
They've made the calculation they can't go anywhere without conceding some of that.
That's why eight hundred billion dollars of new revenue is on the table.
Obama this afternoon was on Bloomberg TV's lunch money show with the correspondent Juliana Goldman.
She said, This, Mr. President, sounds like the usual same old Washington gridlock.
Speaker Boehner was here at the White House last night for Christmas party, the two of you didn't even speak.
What's it gonna take to get the two of you in a room to hash this out?
It's not me being stubborn, it's not me being partisan, it's just a matter of math.
You know, there's been a lot of talk that somehow we can raise 800 billion or a trillion dollars worth of revenue just by closing loopholes in deductions.
But a lot of your viewers understand uh that the only way to do that would be if you completely eliminated, for example, charitable deductions.
Well, uh if you eliminate trouble deductions, that means every hospital and university and non-for-profit agency across the country would suddenly find themselves uh on the verge of collapse.
So that's not a realistic option.
Yeah, right on.
That's that's BS.
You're not gonna let them collapse.
You'll become the sole benefactor.
That's the plan.
By the way, well, it's not me being stubborn.
It's not being being partisan.
It is entirely being partisan.
That's all this is.
Pure and simple.
You know, I I don't know, folks.
It's hard for me to not be cynical about this.
They sign the debt limit increase, and they tell us that they put in these terms that nobody can live with.
If they don't come to an agreement later, which is what we're trying to do now, and that's where sequestration is part of it, and the defense cuts and all these other cuts in Medicare.
Nobody's gonna want it.
The Medicare cuts are to motivate the Democrats, the defense cuts are there to motivate the Republicans, but look, there's a likelihood we're gonna go over to Cliff and that that that's that's in fact the Democrats want that.
But it is Obama being partisan.
And it is Obama being stubborn, and it is Obama saying, I won.
And it is Obama saying, I don't respect you little dirtbags for as far as I could throw you.
I resent the hell having a I mean, he has Baker Boehner up there at some White House Christmas party, maybe seek him out.
Not that he is obligated to, but there's no collegiality here.
That's this is all we're just we're all being played again.
It's the same old song and dance.
And we know how this is going to end up.
Higher taxes and more spending.
We know how it's gonna end up.
And if there are spending cuts, it's gonna be 50 billion dollars.
Something that we spend every five minutes or so.
It's gonna be insignificant.
Just something that they can say they cut the budget.
If we go over the cliff, then you have to say that's the Republicans are not caving, and they better be prepared for what's on the other side.
So Juliana Goldman said, Well, do you think that you can get the revenues you're looking?
See, here's the thing.
To me, all of this is smoke and mirrors.
I mean, who sets the the narrative the template?
We need more revenue.
We obviously, folks, we don't have a revenue problem.
We we this fiscal mess we're in is not because people aren't taxed enough.
It's not because businesses aren't taxed enough, it's because there's just way, way, way too much spending.
We simply cannot afford everything that we're attempting to pay for.
We just don't have the money.
And it isn't their raising taxes.
We don't even make a dent in confiscating all the money the rich have.
We don't even make a dent if we take all of it, which you can only do once.
It's not a but yet here are all these doom coughs in the media.
You think you can get the revenues you need, you get the revenues you need, you get new taxes that you know.
It's it's just it's a collection of robots calling themselves journalists, singing the same tune written by the regime every year.
Need new revenue, need new revenue, must fire bill session, must fire bill session, must fire January, all this stuff pops up, becomes part of the public domain, and it just not even news.
It's all it's all part of a uh of an agenda.
And what this agenda happens to be shrinking the amount of money that's available to people in the private sector, and which then forces them to turn to government to live.
That's all this is.
And there doesn't seem to be much opposition to it among our elected people, the Republicans in Washington.
It's just an argument over who can manage this behemoth better.
Anyway, her question.
You think you can get the revenues you're looking for from raising rates to somewhere between where they are now and the 39.6, like do you think you could get the revenues you need with 37 or 38 percent, maybe eliminate some deductions?
Is that doable, Mr. President?
Let me sort of describe the process here for you, Juliana.
So let's let those go up.
Yeah, please do.
Please describe the BS.
...a process where the time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013...
Where we work on tax reform.
We look at what loopholes and deductions, both Democrats and Republicans are willing to close.
And it's possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that point.
And I'm happy to work with them.
Oh, folks, this is exactly what I, your host, L. Rushbo predicted.
Obama wants all the rates to go up, and then he'll come back later in the year and pretend to cut some.
He wants the rates to go on the middle class, particularly.
That he can't wait for.
Because he knows that every low information voter in this country knows that he doesn't want any tax increases on the middle class.
Throughout the campaign, every debate, the one thing that the Democrats have nailed, particularly for the low information voter, is no way are middle class taxes going up.
If they know anything, they know that.
I don't care how little else they know.
That's what they think they know.
That Obama and the Democrats will fall on a sword to keep their taxes going up.
Then the taxes go up.
And outrage and panic ensue.
And then Obama within minutes, national address to the nation, blaming the Republicans for it, failing to compromise.
He won, they lost, their ideas were rejected.
The American people wanted our plan, my plan.
And now because the Republicans wouldn't agree with me and deal with me, your taxes have gone up.
So I am coming today to propose a massive middle class tax cut to take you and the middle class back to where you were before the Republicans raised your taxes trying to protect the rich.
And the Republicans had better have an answer for that.
So far, they don't have an answer for that.
But they'd better, because that is what's coming.
But this is absolutely a crock.
That he will lower rates by broadening the base.
That is the right thing to do, and it's the right thing to do now.
And what I think he's telegraphing with that comment is that Simpson Bowles is something he would sign down the road.
Once he gets what he wants politically, he wants middle class tax rates to go up so that he is seen as the great savior cutting them.
And then somewhere down there, he might.
It's a long shot.
I mean, it's not guaranteed, but he might.
Because Simpson-Bowles, that's their language.
He doesn't believe this.
There's no way Obama believes it.
He knows it works, but that's he doesn't believe it.
That's Reaganomics, broadening the base, lowering tax rates, creating more jobs, more taxpayers.
Uh-uh.
Could have done that in any of the last four years.
Don't want to do that.
Barack Obama is not going to be president of a country where the private sector is seen as reviving itself.
It ain't gonna happen.
Barack Obama is going to be president of a country where it is seen that he did whatever it is that people think is good.
That he is seen as saving things, not people themselves, not the private sector.
Obama looks at uh at money in the private sector the same way he views domestic oil production.
He wants to put more and more private capital off limits, more and more oil off limits.
Now the Simpson Bowls plan calls for a top tax rate of 23%.
That's lower than the 35% rate now, let alone the 39% top rate that Obama wants.
No, we're never gonna see 23% with Obama.
That's what Simpson Bowles is suggesting.
I gotta take a break.
I just saw the clock.
We'll be back.
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No, it's a total of six people.
We got three grand prize winners, and each winner gets to bring somebody.
So you get six people that get to come down.
It's the same day, and everybody here together watching the program, part of a three day two night stay in South Florida.