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Nov. 14, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 14, 2012, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Okay, folks, look, I just checked the email here at the top here.
I'm not trying to be pessimistic.
I'm trying to be realistic.
I'm not trying to be negative about anything.
I just facing reality is what I do.
I am the mayor of Realville.
And I'm just telling you that the media is in the same mode that they've been in for the last four years.
Utter protection of Obama.
Utter promotion of Obama.
So McCain and the boys have a press conference announcing they want a select committee to look into Benghazi.
And the press is hostile.
That should not be a surprise.
That's standard operating procedure.
The press is hostile to us.
The press is hostile to Republicans.
The press is hostile to anybody who does not fall in line with the Obama stated position on anything.
Four Americans dead in Benghazi doesn't matter.
Because it doesn't matter to Obama.
And particularly if it could hurt Obama, it is not going to happen.
So if you aren't the uh the preske, you want to they ought to be as contentious with Obama's there.
Yeah, they should, but they're not gonna be.
They are his guaranteers, they're his protectors.
This press conference coming up at the bottom of the hour.
You know what's gonna be?
It's gonna be a continuation of the war on women.
It's gonna give continuation to campaign.
He's gonna continue to bash Republicans.
He's gonna maybe make a couple of phony allusions to bipartisanship and so forth, but he's ramming it down everybody's throat now.
1.6 trillion dollars of tax increases, health care cutbacks of $340 billion, and this is not to raise revenue, and it's not to reduce the deficit, is to punish people.
It's to punish people for voting against him, it's to punish people for not supporting him, is to punish people for being successful, because that means somebody hasn't been.
Success in his world is not legitimate.
It results from cheating, chicanery, uh, an unfair playing field or what have you.
He's got free reign now.
Like he told uh he told uh Medvedev, hey, just tell Vlad, get me get the re-elected, I have a lot more flexibility.
He's got it now.
Anyway, great to have you back.
800 28282, if you want to be on the program, the email address, L Rushball at EIB net.com.
Last Saturday, there was a party out Sacramento, California, and I was not a well not able to go.
It was not that I wasn't allowed.
I, of course, was invited.
Had I gone, I would have been the star of the show.
Uh second star of the show, but I couldn't make it for a host of reasons.
But it was the 80th birthday party of a man that's been very important to me, uh, particularly in my professional career, Stan Atkinson, who when I arrived in Sacramento 1984, was the 5 and 11 p.m. anchor for KCR TV 3 eyeball news.
It was uh uh the NBC affiliate, and I'm not kidding, they had 50 shares.
The other two stations could have signed off when Atkinson was on, and it wouldn't have made any difference.
I mean, it was just never seen anything like it.
And I remember when I when I got when I got to town, the the the man who took me to Sacramento from Kansas City was a man named Norman Woodruff.
He lived in San Francisco, but he was a broadcast consultant.
And he was he was um letless but he was not conservative, but he didn't care.
He he the his job was to consult for winning radio stations.
And he uh he recognized in in Kansas City that if if somebody turned me loose, I might amount to something.
And so I never forget he he called me, I'd been fired in Kansas, and he called me uh this 1984.
I've been on the beach for two weeks, and I've got nothing.
I'm thinking of getting out of radio.
Uh because I had just gotten back into radio having been with the baseball team for five years.
I've been back in radio, I got back in, I lasted a year, got canned again.
So I'm thinking, gee, what am I gonna do now?
I mean I get this phone call from from Woodruff is how would you like to move to California and become a star?
Oh whoa.
Where in California?
Uh-uh.
I am not going to tell you where until you tell me yes.
Well, So well, that kind of tells me it's someplace not on the main path.
If it was LA or San Francisco, he would have said, How would you like to move to Los Angeles or San Francisco?
I mean, come on, but he said California.
I had no choice.
I had no option.
So I said, okay, Norman, and I like Norman.
I said, okay, I'll do it.
Where is it?
Sacramento.
And my heart literally sank.
Now you gotta understand there's nothing against Sacramento in our business, the ladder of success takes you to larger markets with each job.
And the larger market you're in theoretically, the better chance.
None of this applies anymore.
But back in the in the 80s and all the decades prior to that, this is how you advance in this, and now those rules no longer apply.
I mean, you don't even have to have any experience to be hired in the number one market now.
But Sacramento was a bit of a letdown because it was just a small market compared to Kansas City, it was a larger market, didn't have a baseball team, the basketball Kansas City basketball team was going to move there, but I had no choice.
I went out and I went through the interview process and drove up to Lake Tahoe, and they showed me great time, and it turned out it'd be a lovely, lovely place.
And as you know, I mean I lived there for three and a half, four years, and it was probably the first time in my entire professional life that I had experienced any success at all.
Everywhere I had been, I had failed.
But the failures all mattered.
They all led to something better.
And I I never lost my confidence or the the reality of the vision that I had that I was going to succeed, even though, like everybody, I was told by the experts I didn't have what it took that I should go into sales or some such thing.
So anyway, I get out there and start surveying the market to try to learn about it.
And that's when I learned that there isn't, it's it's two weeks before the 1984 presidential election, and I'm listening to all the radio stations, and there's not one political show on the air.
There's news, but there isn't an opinion political show.
They're carrot cake recipes for the holidays and this kind of stuff.
Sewage problems and how are we going to pay for it?
That kind of stuff was on the radio.
So, well, there's a gold mine of opportunity here.
And Woodruff, I was replacing Martin Downey Jr., who had been fired for telling uh an ethnic joke for which he refused to apologize.
An ethnic joke about a member of the town council, city council.
And they said to me, We will back you no matter what.
Whatever you as long as you believe it.
But if you're going to go in the radio and just say outrageous things that you don't believe, just to rattle people up, you will not last.
That's not only here, but not in this business.
So you really believe it, you can make a case for it, go for it.
So it's what happened.
Then Norman took me under his wing upon my arrival.
And every night he took me to the restaurant that Stan Atkinson dined in every because he wanted me to see how a star comported himself.
He wanted me to see how a star was reacted to by people.
Norman's word for star was what he meant by that successful uh media person.
And Atkinson ate at a different place every night.
It was it was almost uh the giant question of the day is where would Stan Atkinson be seen for dinner tonight after the five o'clock news before the 11 o'clock news.
And Norman had worked out Atkinson's routine.
He knew before Atkinson knew where he was gonna go.
So for example, we would go to the Alhambra Fuel and Transportation, no longer there, and we would sit off the main entrance so we could watch what happened without really being seen or noticed.
And Atkinson would walk in, and Woodruff would say, Now I want you to pay careful attention to what this man does, how he comports himself, watch what happens.
So I'm saying, what I'm I'm going along with this because I'm a halfway laughing at it under my breath.
But I watched, and Atkinson walked in and stopped at every table, knew everybody.
Everybody knew him.
He had a personal comment for everybody.
The word aloof did not apply.
There was no I'm here, look at me.
There was no demanding the best table.
There was no uh whatever.
But it was clearly a show.
Stan was putting on a show by virtue of his arrival.
I mean, he literally owned the town.
And I guess I was there for six months or a year before I actually met him, and I met him at the Alhambra Feed and Fuel Health Club.
I'd been roped into doing commercials from health club, which meant I had to go in there and pretend to work out.
That's right.
I forget the name of this health club, but it was right near the Alhambra feed and fuel restaurants.
I had to go in there and and uh avail myself of the amenities of the health club.
And I'm I'm in the men's locker room and I'm getting dressed, getting ready to leave, and Atkinson comes out of the shower, stark, raving nude.
And I looked at him above the waist only.
And I said, You're Stan Atkinson.
And he knew who I was.
He knew who I was, and he he let me know that I was not nude.
What are you crazy?
I was not nude, but he knew who I was, and he then started complimenting me.
Now you have to understand, folks, this was huge to me.
I mean, this this, in terms of broadcasting the career, the the uh characteristics of success, um, and all that that that was huge for him to know who I was and to be a fan and so forth.
And we struck up a great, great friendship at that point.
And uh uh being under his wing was I think a very important, relevant aspect of of my overall uh success in Sacramento, which was so meaningful to me because it was the first time this 1984, and I had started in this business in 1966.
So this is it's almost 18 years of doing this before I knew what success felt like.
And it was it was out there.
And uh it was I met so many friends out there, and I had I had uh actually planted roots in the community for the first time anywhere outside of where I grew up.
I mean, I even testified before the city council on whether or not it made sense for the Kansas City Kings to relocate there because I had worked for the Kansas City Royals.
So the town council of Sacramento thought I knew something about professional sport, which I did.
Which I did.
It was um it was it was just a great experience.
Anyway, Stan's 80th birthday was recently had a big bash for him on on Saturday.
And by the way, he had to look at day over 60.
Uh, if even that.
And so I just wanted to wish him happy birthday here and and and say thanks again for everything he did for me and express my regrets that I couldn't couldn't be there because you know, folks, all this stuff uh happening around us that occupies our minds.
When you when you strip all that away, when you when you think about the um things in your life that you think back, the nostalgic things that make you happy or have fond memories, it's always about the relationships you have with people you love.
It's not the things you acquire or the Places that you've been necessarily, but it's uh it's it's really about people that you've known.
You've had great relationships with that have meant something to you.
Stan's one of those one of those people for me, so it's a little drawn-out way, but I just want to say happy birthday, happy 80th.
I'm sorry I couldn't be there.
We'll take a brief time out come back to Bash and Obama after this.
Sarah Palin has a fascinating post on her Facebook page.
Who's running the country?
Victor Davis Hansen had a post at National Review Online that uh that that echoes much of of uh of what I said yesterday and have been saying for a while about our pop culture overtaking every institution and tradition in this country.
I'll get to those in due course, but I've uh people have been waiting here for an hour and a half.
I want to grab some calls, we'll start Kansas City.
And it's Karen, great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
This is such an honor.
I can't tell you.
I'm really nervous because I I've always wanted to talk to you, so thank you so much.
You bet.
I'm glad you're here.
Uh first I want to tell you that I did order some more Diet Blueberry and Raspberry Tea yesterday.
I just love it.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
We got uh we keep getting feedback from people who are tasting it for the first time, who um who say how good it is, and it is.
That's the best thing about the tea is is it is really good.
I'm glad you like it.
I do, I do.
Um, and my second point is that um I I agree with you a hundred percent.
I don't think we're watching this Petraeus situation unfold.
I think it already unfolded and is done, and you're exactly right, and it's happening the way you describe, and to me it's so obvious.
Um uh obviously the administration knew, and Mark Levin, who, for those who don't know, worked in the Reagan administration for an attorney general.
He said absolutely the president would know.
He would know right away if if there were this kind of uh security breach.
Well, yeah, last night on on Greta, uh Alberto Gonzalez, a former attorney general for Bush 43 said if if something like this had happened in their administration, if the CIA director was having an affair and and even exact details, he would have told Bush instantly.
You can't leave the president hanging and unknowing and ignorant.
And this bunch didn't either.
There's no way Obama didn't know about that.
What they did was put this in their in their pocket for later use when they needed it.
And we don't know what those reasons are, but we know who they are, these people.
We know the kind of people they are.
There's no question they needed it now for some reason.
Well, and now that the FBI has conveniently found classified documents in Paula Broadwell's house, so this kind of information is coming out, and there's no way to me that Petraeus would testify if they didn't already know the outcome.
So my prediction, just personally watching this, the deep details come out is that in exchange there will be no charges, perhaps no dishonorable discharge.
They may even um keep him from being the fall guy.
They could put a lid on all the dirty laundry that could come out.
And it wouldn't surprise me if after all this is cleared, it will become, as you said, a private matter.
Nothing to see here, no security breach.
All of that's entirely possible.
I want to I want to walk you through what what she's speculating on.
Here we've got McCain, Lindley Gramnesty, Kelly Ayat asking for a select committee to look into Benghazi.
You and I all know that it was not a video.
It has been admitted to by enough people at upper levels of our government.
We know that this was an al-Qaeda attack.
We know that the White House Situation Room knew at the moment it was happening what it was.
Bottom line is we know that everybody in this administration who for two weeks or for two days or even to the present in blaming Benghazi on spontaneous eruption of protests and a video.
We know that that's not true.
Okay, you know that.
Here you've got these people asking for a select committee to look into it.
We have General Petraeus, CIA director.
On September 13th or 14th, whenever, he testified that it was a video.
That it was spontaneous.
Now Petraeus has had to resign.
Details of the affair.
And she's right.
They found classified documents at Broadbean's house.
I don't know what.
I can't believe the FBI's actually I can believe the FBI is releasing that.
The FBI is releasing all kinds of stuff now that they used to never talk about.
But they're making it all public.
So in in in in all of this, Petraeus goes and testifies either tomorrow Friday or whenever it is.
He's not going to commit perjury.
He's not gonna he's not gonna disagree with himself.
He's not gonna say that what he said back then.
He might e I don't even think he'll say I was misinformed.
I was I've done my own investigation now.
And what'll happen, he'll come out, he'll confirm what he said.
That will leak.
It will leak.
Even though it's behind closed doors.
It will leak purposefully, and what will the news be?
The director of the CIA in closed door testimony once again confirmed that the root cause of the violence in Benghazi was a spontaneous protest that led or was was the result of uh an offensive video.
And we're gonna be pulling our hair out.
No it isn't true.
But they'll have the testimony of the former CIA director, even though he's maybe discredited in some people's eyes.
It's just hard to conceive.
It's hard to conceive that they're gonna if that that they would letraeus come testify if he is going to say things that contradict Obama and Susan Rice and whoever else.
We'll wait and see how this turns out, but I think you ought to brace yourself for the fact that it's another dispute that the Democrats will win.
Yeah, I just I can't help laughing at at what I'm looking at.
We got this presidential press conference, which we are not going to JIP.
I don't know how many of our local affiliates will uh preempt us to carry it because it's Obama's first White House presser in eight months.
But I'm uh uh I've got it up here.
And every network has their White House correspondent all lined up in front of the presidential podium, and they're all doing their live shots, talking to their network anchors, all telling their audiences what's coming up in the presidential press.
F. Chuck Todd, there was Jessica Yellen, there was uh Jonathan Carl.
I mean, they're right, they're two feet apart from each other.
It just it i it looks like such overkill.
You could do what they were doing with one camera and one reporter.
Anyway, back to the phones we go, Mary in Napa, California.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hi.
Hi.
Don't sound so excited.
Um I was just calling uh it's been on my mind for a couple of weeks now.
Uh why hasn't anybody mentioned anything about the 30 people who survived the attack in Benghazi?
We have two uh outrageous heroes that laid their life down for these people.
Now I know they're government employees, so they're probably asked to stand down on speaking up, but I know there's somebody rush that's out there in your audience that knows one of these thirty people that can have them take a stand and speak out on the benefits that they uh reap because of two men died on their behalf.
So you if I understand this right, you think that some of the survivors should be coming forward and explaining what really happened there.
Yes, I do.
I think it's their right.
I mean, you look at what our founding fathers put on the line.
They put everything on the line.
And these people are worried about their jobs.
Well, no, they have a job because these men saved their lives.
Yeah, that's all true.
It's all true.
It's also true that they are still alive.
Right.
They got out of there alive.
And they'd like to stay that way.
And they would probably like to keep their jobs.
It's a tough economy.
Well, you know what?
I'm sure our founding fathers did too.
Can I ask you a question?
Do you can can I uh seriously now?
No, no, no, I want no no, Mary, I want you to listen to me.
I want to take you back to the eight years of Bill Clinton.
Can you recall in all of that mess?
Can you recall one member of that administration ever, even today, coming forward and telling the truth about anything that happened there?
No, I think they died around him.
Well, I think I'm talking about people still alive.
What I'm what I'm telling you is, as a matter of ideological commitment and loyalty, they do not turn on each other.
They circle the wagons on each other.
The survivors at Benghazi have only one interest, and that is protecting Obama.
That's who they work for.
Or protecting Hillary.
Yeah, I don't look at this as turning on their party.
I looked this I look at this as standing up for two men that put their life on the line.
You can't I I I think you can't if you can separate the two.
And I think that we need to get the character back in our country where people take a stand and they take a chance that they're gonna lose all things.
That's what these two men did.
Okay, well then you let me ask why haven't they then?
If you think it's quite normal, if you think it if you think it's natural to think that some of these people would come forward thanking their their their uh the the people that saved them and then telling the truth, why haven't they?
I don't think it's normal, but one thing that we've lost in this country rush is accountability and ownership.
And I think that they need to own up to what they have now because of these two men.
And I think they need to be accountable.
That's not to what happened.
Look, I uh I'm not I'm not I'm I'm really not trying to be a downer here.
I'm I I want to tell what I really think is that they know, whoever you're talking about, they know that we exist.
And to them that means we would like to hold Obama accountable for an absolute disastrous foreign policy.
As long as there are people like us, the people in the regime are not going to help us.
They're not if that means circling the wagons around Obama, circling the wagons around what happened to Benghazi, towing the company line, uh that's that's what they're gonna do.
It w I can't I cannot, I cannot overemphasize to you the partisan divide, the literal partisan divide's not even the word.
But it'll suffice that exists here.
You're you're looking at people with honor and integrity doing the right thing.
That they think they are.
Doing the right thing is protecting Obama from us.
Protecting Obama from the Republicans.
That is doing the right thing.
That's loyalty.
The mission, the loyalty, the reason for existence is to protect Obama.
It's not anything about the country.
Now this may be a bit of an exaggeration in I don't mean it as a blanket application to everything, but so far, uh eight years of Bill Clinton, this has been the modus operandi.
Four years of Barack Obama, this has been the modus operandi.
And we see it uh happen each and uh and every day.
Uh Mary, I'm glad you called.
This is Lynn in Cheyenne, Wyoming.
It's great to have you on the EIB network, hi.
Mr. Limbaugh, just want to say it is a pleasure to finally get on to speak to you.
Glad you got through.
Thank you.
I have been listening to you for over 20 years.
Uh, a friend of mine in Alaska um brought me on and told me a little bit about you, and I just wanted to let you know that as of November 6th, uh, 2012, I am the first black conservative Republican um elected into our House of Representatives, and I have to say a lot of it is due to being a student of your advanced conservative studies.
I am.
I I'm so gratified.
So you are the first black conservative elected state house in Wyoming.
Conservative Republican, yes, sir.
And I'm really proud of it.
Uh despite the lapluster bittersweet win on the sixth.
Um, I've been wanting to just let you know that listening to you and researching what you're saying and reading on my own and prayer made me want to get up off the couch and give it a a whirl.
We tried for this is my second chance trying, and we won with seventy-two percent of the vote.
Seventy-two percent of the vote.
Yes, sir.
Way to go.
Thank you very much.
And that's for standing up to my with my conservative values and letting people know the get-go that I am conservative and not trying to hide it or you know, keep it in the background.
It was awesome.
I'd say, God bless you.
You realize what you're in for.
I had a uh party a while back.
It was a bill of rights party, and one of my uh friends brought over your raspberry tea, and I thought, oh my goodness, he spent a lot of money.
He brought this tea over.
And as soon as he left the party, and just so you know, some of the guests took some of the tea with him, um, when they left, um we looked up online uh uh to price your tea, and I tell you your tea is cheaper than Snapple, and I think the raspberry is the best.
Well, I'm I love the raspberry too, but I said the blueberry is close second.
Well, you open the bottle of the blueberry, you get the aroma.
You think you're smelling the batter for blueberry muffins.
I mean, it's with with the of course the hint of tea.
But I I uh um it is cheaper to Snapple, but yeah, you had a factor in shipping cost.
There's no but I that's not you had what'd you say, a bill of rights party?
Yes, sir.
What is what do you do at a bill of rights party?
Who did you invite and who showed up?
Well, I invited my conservative friends, and um they all came.
Um I uh a legislator's husband came and just conservative friends, and we just talk about issues that are important to us.
And um uh when I had my constitution party, I had the Constitution playing the audio playing in the background, and we just talk about politics and religion and it's it's just an awesome topic.
My goodness.
That just that just see folks in pockets out there, this off is uh is happening.
And you know, she's happy to talk about it.
It's not like she's doing this behind closed doors and hoping nobody noticed.
Anyway, that's fabulous.
I that that's it.
Lynn, congratulations.
Well, we're honored here to hear from you.
Uh th thank you, uh th thank you so much.
By the way, have you you haven't been sworn in yet, right?
No, sir.
That will be in January.
Okay, so you don't have any limits on what you can accept gift-wise yet, right?
No, sir.
Right.
Okay.
Well, I've got so much stuff back in my prize closet.
What do you need?
You need an iPhone five, you needed an iPad.
Um I don't have any of those things.
I think it's awesome.
You don't have any of those things?
No, okay, which do you want a little slider phone?
My husband and I always go for the cheapest phone, so I wouldn't know what to do.
You you uh you want to try an iPhone five?
Sir, um I guess I don't know.
It'd be awesome.
Are you happy with the phone that you've got?
No, sir.
It's it's pretty bad.
All right, do you live where you can get ATT cellular service?
Uh, sir, um Verizon is what we can get out of it.
Oh, I don't have any Verizon phones.
Okay, so it can't be there.
So I'll tell you what, I'll tell uh h how about a retina MacBook Pro 15 inch laptop.
Whoa!
That'd be the that that's the ticket.
That that's that's the thing for you.
Hang on, Lynn, we'll get the address to ship the thing out to you tomorrow.
You'll have it then.
Uh uh really great.
Thank you so much for for for the the tea plug, but for running for running and for winning.
And being so optimistic about we'll be right back, folks.
Do not go away.
It's just a it's just a campaign speech.
I just listened to a little bit of the press conference, and it's nothing more than a campaign speech.
It it's nothing more than the perpetual campaign.
Basically what the president just said is that I'm gonna raise taxes on the top two percent, and that's gonna s that's gonna fix pretty much everything.
I'm gonna raise taxes and I'm gonna take away some loophole deductions, and that sets everyone that takes the edge away from the cliff.
That pretty much sets us up.
And he said this exact look at you shouldn't be surprised.
Governor Romney said all you want to do is cut taxes to people, and I said I want a balance approach, which included raises taxes on the rich, and that's what we're going to do.
He said more people agree with me on this and even voted for me.
So that's what we're going to do here.
You know, I uh he didn't say these words, but he he has before so I want them.
Um he said that the two options of the tax code either go over the fiscal cliff or extend only the Bush tax rates for people below 250,000 dollars.
And the problem with that's not a problem, there's no problem for these guys, but uh they keep saying the Bush tax rates apply to the rich only.
We're gonna find out the Bush tax rates apply to everybody, and Obama wants to leave them in place for everybody but the top two percent.
And doing that, doing that, and maybe a little discussion on the discretionary spending, not much, but just doing that will take us off the fiscal cliff.
That will start the ball rolling to deficit reduction.
Um that's it.
We just can't afford to extend these Bush tax rates for the rich.
We if we take those back, then we're we're on the way.
Exactly what I said in the campaign.
So it's just a campaign speech.
I'm sure he's blamed Bush for something by now or will before it's all over, and there'll be war on women stuff.
Me might even relate to saving big bird.
Hell who knows.
Here's John in Crofton, Maryland.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Hi.
Hello.
Yeah, hi, John.
How are you?
Yeah, you know I'm probably your most frequent caller.
I've been listening to you for over 20 years.
And uh I am pissed at you.
I uh I sent you an email yesterday, and I kind of got the impression that you were uh giving uh Petraeus a way out for him not to tell the truth.
Uh I think it's so critical now, especially with uh all these other things that Obama's gonna stick to us as far as the fiscal cliff and everything else, loss of freedom.
You know, this guy's still a national hero.
I mean, he's been in the uniform for what, almost 40 years, almost twice the amount of time you've been on the air, and you're not even waiting another day or two.
You don't even know what day he's gonna uh testify.
He's probably gonna be Friday, and you're making it easy for him to go up there and just give the same story he gave before we know it's not true, it's not perjury because intervening, he went to Benghazi and he had investigated the thing himself.
Now everybody knows what the story is, and if a national hero doesn't go to back for the rest of the country, we're lost.
And you're you're telling everybody, you know, the president's invincible, you know, nobody's gonna win.
Look at Clinton, my God, he he screwed so many people, and nobody ever came forward on him, so you can't beat these people.
My God, how defeated can you be?
You're not American when you act that way.
I'm not telling you, I'm just I'm just telling I'm reading the tea leaves.
I'm using my intelligence.
I'm using my intelligence very guided by you just said it.
Nobody ever dropped a dime on Clinton.
You said it.
I was repeating what you said.
One cares about Clinton.
Did anybody ever drop the dime on Clinton?
I don't care.
It matters.
That's why you should care.
It's instructive.
Folks, I want to help you out here.
There's a Obama press conference going on, and it's been going on about 25 minutes.
I want to tell you basically what he said.
There will be tax increases for the rich, and I can't really discuss that's an ongoing investigation.
Um we're gonna raise taxes on the rich, and I'm not gonna use dynamic scoring, I'm not gonna go for that.
We're gonna raise taxes on the rich.
I'm not gonna have some poor family in the nursing home have the deficit come down on their shoulders, and it's an ongoing investigation, and and that's it.
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