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Oct. 18, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 18, 2012, Thursday, Hour #2
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What do you mean don't mention that on the air?
That's a good that's a great what do you mean out of touch?
That's a great economic illustration.
I was just sitting here calculating how much time just in the last 25 years I have wasted putting equal in my coffee.
If the equal was already in the coffee when it was poured from the pot, how about I've wasted six months of my life putting equal.
So I just I just told Snerdly who brews the second pot.
Well, you actually snurdly brewed both pots.
Just put 16 packets of equal in the pot before you brew it, and that way all I'll have to do is pour it.
And I'll have to reach over there and grab the equal package and rip them open, pour it in there, wipe up the stuff that doesn't end up in the cup, spills, throw it away, look at all the time, since we're talking about the economy today and productivity and so forth.
By the way, welcome back, folks, Rush Limbaugh on the EIB network and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Yes, yep, of course we're gonna put I'm gonna get to Libya.
That's why there's three hours here.
I'll do it when I feel like doing it, which is what I do every day.
When I feel like talking about it, I'll talk about it.
I'm not through with this jobs business though.
As I was just sitting here thinking during the break, you remember in the first two years of the regime, Obama had all of these work groups, and one of the work groups he had was a jobs council.
In fact, the guy that leads that is Jeff Imelt of GE.
And I I saw the other day that the Obama Jobs Council hasn't met since January.
So basically ten months.
But that's okay because it's a total waste of time.
I I'll never forget in the I think it was the first year maybe, doesn't matter, but when Obama was doing these workshops at the White House, they had cameras in the media, you know, the media was orgasming every day over all of this.
And I remember one particular jobs council meeting, Thomas Friedman of the New York Times was there, who is their foreign policy columnist at the at the New York Times.
And I'm watching with incredulity the Obama jobs council, and it was it was a metaphor for exactly what's wrong with socialism, liberalism, Marxism, central planet.
Here you had a bunch of eggheads who don't know the first thing about job creation by definition, obviously.
If they're sitting there talking about it, they don't know anything about it.
If they think they gathering together in a room to talk about job creation is the solution, they don't know what they're talking about.
That's not how jobs happen.
That's not how an economy grows.
And it was even more laughable.
You have all these egghead theoreticians, faculty lounge lizard types, all these liberals that sit around and talk to each other about how much better everything what was that?
About how much better everything would be.
Somebody's giving me TV on it.
That's gotta be TV audio from someplace there.
So you have all these eggheads sitting around at the White House theorizing all these liberals, theorizing it if they were in charge, if they were the ones calling the shots, if they were the ones planning everything, then there wouldn't be any economic problem.
There wouldn't be high unemployment.
They really believed the last ten years of George W. Bush destroyed the economy, nothing could be further from the truth.
But it was insulting to my intelligence and laughable at the same time to see people like Thomas Friedman, a journalist, a columnist at the New York Times, and whoever else was there, sitting around and a two-hour workshop on job creation.
Meanwhile, while these clowns are in the White House theorizing and talking about job creation, people all across the country sweating and slaving small business owners trying to hold on to their businesses as they face even higher taxes and more onerous regulations coming right out of the White House where all of these silly ridiculous workshops are taking place by people that haven't the slightest
idea what they're talking about, who wouldn't know how to start a business and keep it going, Wouldn't put up with the regulations that they foster on everybody else.
Just mind-boggling, the arrogance.
Barack Obama doesn't have a week's worth of experience in the private sector.
He doesn't have any experience in health care, no experience in medicine, no experience in pharmaceuticals, no experience in jobs, no exp, and yet he knows all.
He's got all the ink.
Let him run every it it just.
One of the things that constantly burned me.
Then to bring in the yokels like Thomas Loopy Friedman to sit here, and all you have was a bunch of people feeling self-important.
They're the smartest people in the room, they know all.
Coming up with what?
What plans could they possibly conceive?
Jobs do not get created by commissions in the White House or anywhere else.
Jobs are created by real people you've never heard of, rolling up their sleeves, taking giant risks, borrowing money, putting that money at risk on a passion for a product or a service that they think will score big, that they think is going to be popular, and if it grows, they hire more people to handle the growth of the business.
And not one of these people in one of the job commission has ever been a boss.
Not one of them has ever started a business.
Not one of them.
That this workshop there weren't any CEOs.
I mean, this was strictly eggheads.
Talk about Apple.
You know, look at all of these cable comp uh cell phone companies now who are working hard to build out 4G data networks, LTE.
Why is that happening?
If it weren't for the iPhone, the build out of LTE networks by cellular companies would be going at a snail's pace.
But the sale of all these iPhones is creating a demand for high-speed data networks that is creating all of this investment by this by the cellular companies that's resulting in the growth.
And there's not one aspect of this taking place that any commission or group of eggheads in Washington conceived, planned, and ordered.
The iPhone did not come from any Obama brilliant guy or commission or anything else that Apple makes.
The only thing these people do is regulate, often in an injurious way, what others are taking risks to invest in and to accomplish.
The FCC is a regulatory agency that can make or break private sector industry or firm with one decision.
And it's political.
Always has been.
President gets the name the majority members.
ATT wanted to merge with T-Mobile.
And the reason they wanted to do that is because Verizon was kicking their butt on the LTE rollout.
ATE couldn't build as fast as they could buy.
Spectrum to roll LTE.
Well, the FCC disapproved the merger because they didn't like the bells being put back together after we'd torn them apart decades ago.
And of course, the stupid idiots in the media applaud this.
It's a wonderful big business getting shafted, big business being told it can't make him seem profits.
So in the meantime, ATT is in 55 markets with LTE, and Verizon's in over 250.
ATE would be competitive with Verizon on LTE if the merger had been approved.
I'm not arguing for against the merge.
I'm just pointing out none of this does Obama have a clue about.
He had the slightest idea.
Neither does Thomas Loopy Friedman.
They don't, they can't even consider all they can do is sit there and whine and moan at the iPhones made in China.
They haven't the slightest idea how much of the American economy revolves around the purchase of those damn things.
And every other gadget, not just Apples.
Now manufacturing's important, but those jobs were never here.
My only point is I just I I I we're living the moment that we've all predicted.
We're living the moment that I remember predicting in 1992 in the campaign Clinton Bush.
Folks, if these guys win, we're further down the line, big government socialism, government's gonna get bigger, the private sector's gonna shrink.
Well, we're no longer predicting it's happened.
We are living it.
And these welfare numbers today prove it.
Okay, now I gotta take a uh a brief time out.
This binder business is up next, and we've got nothing but women on the phone, Snerdley tells me.
So if you're on the phone, I want you to be patient.
Because I'm gonna get to you as quickly as I can.
Um just to set this binder business up.
What happened is after he was elected governor of Massachusetts, Romney wanted to increase the number of women applicants for his administration because as he said in the debate, when he took office, he looked around and he didn't see very many.
And he realized that that wasn't good.
There's some talent out there that wasn't being tapped.
So he went to a nonpartisan women's group, a group called Mass Gap.
And they supplied him with binders filled with resumes from women.
So when you hear the word binder out of the mouth of that idiot Biden or the clueless Obama, and they're trying to insult your intelligence by thinking they can make you hate this man when all he wanted to do was find qualified women and hire them.
I hope your intelligence is insulting.
This is how I feel every day dealing with liberals.
Every day they media all insult my intelligence.
I can't imagine what this war on women has been like for you women in this audience, because I know you're up to speed, you're informed, you're educated, you care every bit as much as any man does about the future of this country, and maybe in certain circumstances you care more.
Maybe you're the only breadwinner of a single mother or whatever, but you care about the price of gas.
You're not off there worried about binders and this rot gut, contraceptives, as though that's what defines you as a woman.
Look at how the left and look at how the Democrat Party thinks of you as a woman.
They're the ones that demean you.
Your life revolves around a contraception pill, your life revolves around having somebody else pay for it.
Your life, that's all you care about, and now you're gonna be insulted because some guy asked for a bunch of resumes in binders, and a nonpartisan women's group supplied him with the binders.
Romney didn't say, get me some binders with women in there.
He asked for resumes of qualified women.
They brought them to him in binders.
And according to its own written statement, the Mass Gap, that's the coalition of women's groups, led by something called the Massachusetts women's political caucus, made the binders in an effort to pressure Romney and his Democrat challenger to appoint women.
They were elected.
Well, Romney was, and he got the binders.
And for the record, this women's group, Mass Gap, ended up applauding Romney in 2006 for increasing female appointments to state government.
Liz Levin, the chairwoman of the group said, I think Romney put more terrific women into high-level jobs because of our project.
So what's the problem here?
George W. Bush had more high-ranking important women in his administration than Bill Clinton, a great lover of women did, or that Obama does.
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I just saw something.
I don't have time to get into great detail, but But apparently, somebody at the campaign or or at the campaign level sends out talking points every day to liberal blogs.
The liberal blogs then start blogging it, and then the drive-by is pick it up.
And what that what it appears that the regime, the campaign is down to this.
Today's tip sheet talking points that have gone out focused totally on this binder with the suggestion that women be told they'll be taken back to the Stone Age if Romney and Ryan are elected.
And so what you if if what I saw is correct and applicable, it's already happening, actually.
We see the bloggers start talking about this obscene ridiculous binder business and what it means.
Romney and Ryan, women barefoot pregnant in the kitchen, Stone Age.
Then the media picks it up.
And they start doing man on the street interviews about it.
They start talking about that's how the process starts.
The whole thing is a giant insult to every woman in the except maybe for Gloria Allred is a giant insult.
By the way, the new Gallup poll is out, and it's Romney plus seven.
This is not yet the full rolling in of the debate this week.
This does not yet include that's a seven-day rolling average.
Romney is 5245 over Obama in the rolling gallop daily tracking.
So I think Obama, you need to keep talking about these binders, and you need to keep talking about Big Bird.
You need to keep talking about these insulting infantile, irrelevant things.
I'll give you some other polling data news.
These are some shocking numbers.
Palm Beach County, Broward County, here in South Florida.
Hanging Chad country, if you will.
The final vote, Obama McCain 2008, Obama got 61%, McCain got 38%.
In Broward County in 2008, McCain got 32%, Obama 67.
So Palm Beach, 6138, Broward County, which is uh uh never mind 6732.
In both counties, it's now Obama plus four.
Polling data as of today is Obama plus four.
He won these two counties 6138 and 6732 in 2008.
Now he's only plus four.
And this trend is happening in many counties and states, and that's why the polling data that we've had up to now that shows a Democrat plus nine or plus ten turnout have been ridiculous, have not been based in reality.
Joe Trippie, Democrat strategist consultant, saw the latest Gallup poll at Romney 5245, and he said, You Democrats, it's yeah, it's officially time to worry.
Carl Robe said, never in the history of the Gallup poll has somebody with a 5145 lead, which is what it was yesterday.
Carl Rove said, never in the history of the Gallup poll with a 5145 lead at this point in the campaign has that candidate lost that lead.
Never's happened.
And today it's 5245.
With Obama in New Hampshire trying to secure four electoral votes, and then off to Iowa.
Let me grab a call here, and we come back.
I got a bunch of sound bites in this binders business, but we're gonna start with Rebecca, who's 18.
She's in Gainesville, Florida.
Hi, Rebecca.
I'm glad you waited.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Thank you.
It is an honor to speak to you.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Um I was listening to the debate on Tuesday, and afterwards I was watching Fox, and focus group came up, and one of the ladies um said an interesting point.
She said her undecided vote wasn't between voting for Obama and Romney.
It was between voting for Romney or not voting at all.
Yeah, I saw that.
And it's kind of scary, but I don't know what to think about it, because at my college, they've also had I've had some people who kind of have the same opinion.
Now, Rebecca, you are you are very shrewd, Rebecca.
I'll tell you I too was a little bit surprised by that, because it's hard for me to conceive of somebody sitting this election out.
Um isn't that what struck you that her option was either Romney or not voting?
Yeah.
What is that?
But but anyway, she did say, correct me if I'm she did say that the debate had convinced her to vote for Romney, right?
That's good.
I would I would say that would be that Romney earned it.
Yeah, but she had said she did say that before the debate she was either not voting or voting for Romney.
That that was the the nature of her being undecided.
And then she said after the debate in this focus group, it was the lunch group that she decided to vote for Romney.
But unlike you, I I was I was shocked that one of her possibilities was not voting.
Folks, if that's my first election, I'm voting.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Vote three or four times.
It's Florida, you're a student.
They'll think you're voting for Obama.
They'll let you in there as many times as you can get in.
Just kidding.
Just kidding, folks is having fun with the with a caller here.
Uh you're very shrewd to pick up on that, and I'm glad that you called and reminded me because the um uh by the way, you're a student.
You have everything you need to be a you have you have an iPad.
Um, no, actually, my mom does, but I look fresh one.
Uh about it by it.
Would your mom be upset if if I gave you one?
I don't think so.
Let's try it.
Okay.
If she gets upset, you can always send it back.
All right.
That won't happen.
Hang on, Rebecca, and uh Mr. Snerdley will get your address and we'll FedEx you an iPad and you'll have it tomorrow.
And we will be right back.
Very simply put, ladies and gentlemen, not voting is a vote for Obama.
Same thing.
If you're not planning on voting, you may as well be saying you're voting for Obama.
It's no more complicated than that.
Obama on his way now to New York City for his sixth appearance on the Daily Show.
Nope, nope, you're gonna be on the Daily Show, taping an appearance on the Daily Show, this uh John Stewart show, and then he's heading over to the Al Smith dinner at the Archbishop holds at the Waldorf Histeria.
And I was frankly kind of surprised they invited him.
It's Catholics, and Obama's undermining their religious freedom, and they're gonna invite him, you're gonna be polite to him.
They always are candidates show up there with their their comedy routines.
So the audio sound bites, we go.
This is Barack Obama yesterday, Mount Vernon, Iowa at Cornell College.
We don't have to collect a bunch of binders to find qualified talented driven young women ready to learn and teach in these fields right now.
What is it like as a woman to have your intelligence insulted this way?
How dumb does Obama think you are?
How how emotionally attached as as as opposed to being intellectually engaged, did they think you are?
Everybody in the world knows what Mitt Romney meant for crying out.
You know, you can't say Chicago without being accused of being a racist now.
You can't criticize it.
These people are destroying the language in the process of destroying the economy.
A nonpartisan women's group, Mass Gap, shows up, Obama, or uh gives Romney a binder or qualified women's resumes.
And now this has become a uh uh a laughing stock point.
This is truly insulting to women.
And here's Biden yesterday in Greeley, Colorado.
You heard the debate last night when Governor Romney's asked a direct question about equal pay.
He started talking about binders.
Who the idea to go and ask where a qualified woman was.
He didn't need a binder.
Here we are with 19 days left in the election, and this is what they've got.
Nineteen days, And this is at the top of their arsenal.
This is what they think.
We're in the midst of economic decline.
We're in the midst of rising gas prices.
One in six Americans in poverty.
Forty-seven million Americans on food stamps and they're making jokes about a comment that Romney made that was complimentary, supportive of women.
Trying to make all of you females think that the Stone Age awaits you.
Do you realize realize how stupid they think you are?
Do you realize the lack of respect this represents?
The lack of respect for women.
What else would you expect from the party of Bill Clinton?
Here's Romney yesterday, Chesapeake, Virginia.
They've suffered in terms of getting jobs.
They've suffered in terms of falling into poverty.
This is a presidency that has not helped America's women.
And as I go across the country and ask women, what can I do to help?
What they speak about day in and day out is help me find a good job or a good job for my spouse.
And help my kid.
Make sure my children have a bright future, better schools, and better job opportunities.
That's what the women of America are concerned about, and the answers are coming from us.
Exactly.
Women are people.
They're not even being treated as people by the Obama campaign.
Do you understand?
You're being treated as as you're you're being objectified.
You're thought of as being dumb and stupid, and your emotions can be played upon here.
Biden, Obama, every one of their surrogates is doing nothing but insulting you.
If I I'd be tired of it.
I'd be if it's not binders, all you care about's free contraception.
All you care about is getting an abortion and having a government paid for it.
The way they look at women, the way they see you.
All they think you do is have sex, want birth control pills, and want an abortion afterwards, and they're gonna make sure that whatever you want in that regard, you get.
And then somebody comes along and asks for resumes of qualified women for meaningful jobs, they'll make fun of that.
And they'll try to make you women think that they know what's really important to you.
Birth control pills and abortion.
That's all you care about.
They're not even people to them.
Thank you.
Now here is an ad, latest ad that Romney Camp has released to combat this binder thing.
These are women, accomplished women talking about Romney, women of his cabinet who are testifying in this ad.
I was just personally struck by his humanity.
He said, We need to take care of those who can't take care of themselves.
Single mothers or women who are trying to get back to work.
He was very, very sensitive about that.
He totally gets working women, especially women who like myself and two young kids.
I needed flexibility.
It's so wonderful to have someone who you respect and work for that understands how important family is.
I met Romney and I approved this message.
Okay, so he's women from his cabinet, women from his uh his businesses all testifying.
What?
The fact that that even has to be said.
Even is a little bit of insulting.
But since we're doing cabinets, let's go back and let's listen to Bill Clinton's cabinet.
Uh, let's see here.
This is uh January 23rd, 1998.
This outside the White House.
Uh after meeting with uh with Clinton about his State of the Union messages, Secretary of State Madeline Albright, Donna Shalela, and uh Commerce Secretary Bill Bill Daly are speaking with reporters about the meeting.
Uh and I'm not sure this is 1999.
I think this is uh this is ninety-three or whatever the Lewinsky story broke, but it wasn't.
Was ninety-eight when that story broke?
Was that second term stuff?
Is that right?
Holy smokes.
Lewinsky was yeah, I'm time's fly 98.
Does it matter?
Here's Clinton's cabinet led by Madeline Albright, and you're all going out there talking about Clinton.
I believe that the allegations are completely untrue.
I'll suck in that.
Third it.
Right.
You mean Clinton and Wolinski?
No way.
I don't I don't believe that for a Minute.
And we all know.
Now let's go to the media.
This is how it all works.
The bloggers get talking points from the campaign.
Okay, talk up this binder business and women going back to the stone age.
The bloggers do.
They start blogging it.
Then the the idiots.
The sponges in the media read the blogs, and that's where they get their news.
They find out what's happening out there on the Democrat side.
Here is CBS this morning, a montage of CBS clucking hens over the binders full of women.
Governor Mitt Romney's reference to binders full of women has Democrats on the attack.
Romney never requested binders full of women.
They actually provided those binders on their own.
Romney meant to say binders of women's resumes.
So that was a pretty important word that he left out.
It was interesting that he meant to say binders of resumes of women, which would also give a different context.
Absolutely.
Do you have your binder, Mr. Rose?
No, my point is they smart men simply listen to smart women.
Take notes, Mr. Rose.
Take notes.
I would just like to point out that we also have our binders every morning full of research papers.
I think it's going to be the joke that keeps on giving.
Yeah, then they have to castrated Charlie Rose in there.
Yeah, my point is smart men simply listen to smart women.
Yep.
Anyway, uh this proves they all knew what Romney meant.
He all they all knew he meant resumes.
But he didn't say resumes, and so that's a that's an opening here to go out and and mischaracterize it, and ultimately in the process, insult the intelligence of women who know.
Every one of them knows what Romney was talking about.
That's exactly there was nothing else in that debate they could use.
They had to cover up all of Obama's screw-ups.
And they were legion Obama Obama really did not have a good debate on substance, folks.
And I'm saying the people who matter, not the inside the beltway analysts and so forth.
people watching that debate out there in flyover country, I'm telling you, realize Obama did not bring it off.
He had no answers.
And the next day is spent Everybody correcting the lies that he and his assistant told.
Candy Crowley, the assistant.
She wasn't a moderator.
Assistant here, Jessica Yellen.
They're over the top with this.
This is last night, Anderson Cooper 360.
And Cooper said, hey, Jessica.
Seems the Obama campaign believes they really get mileage here out of Romney's binder remarks.
It sort of raises this question.
Can he relate to working women?
It made it sound almost like working women are some male order product you can uh order out of colored binders, and there's so many directions you can go.
What did the tabs in that binder say for each of the women?
And the problem for Governor Romney, it's twofold.
One, um, if he's trying to show and he is that he can relate to you and understand the frustrations working women go through.
This does not suggest that he understands the sense of outsider-ness many women feel when they're work for largely male environments.
And two, it raises the question this was a man who at the time he became governor had been a top executive in the business world for multiple decades, and didn't he already know qualified women that he could call upon.
That's absurd.
Every word of that is laughably absurd.
Do you believe the big deal they're trying to make out of this?
It raises a question.
This is a man who at the time he became governor had been a top executive in a business world for multiple decades, and didn't he already know qualified women?
He could call and you know these all-male workforces are very scary for women.
Very scary, and Romney obviously doesn't know that.
And he doesn't realize how scary he was.
Referring to women as nothing but a bunch of binders.
The only scary male workplace is the Obama White House.
And there have been stories in the Washington Post and Time magazine about it from women in the Obama White House who left.
One was Anita Dunn, the other was Christina Roomer.
Okay, I got to take a brief time out, and we're gonna get back to the phones when we get back.
So you're next.
Okay, to the phones we go, And this is Gene in Harvard, Illinois.
Welcome to the EIB Network and a Rush Limbaugh program.
Great to have you here.
Megal wouldn't let Planned Parenthood touch my boobs even if they did do mammograms dittos.
Rad all.
Right.
Thank you very much for the Wouldn't let Planned Parenthood touch your boobs even if they do do mammogram dittos.
I love that.
They don't.
But the reason I'm calling has to do with Obama's magical thinking.
And and you talked a little a little bit about it in the in the monologue.
You talked about how he uh had a jobs conference and then said it was solved.
This has to do with the debate.
Uh someone asked a question about what he was going to do about gas prices.
And what he said was he he'd passed a mandate to increase the cafe standards.
That's like passing a mandate to lower the sea levels.
You don't just pass it and it's done.
Yeah, I know you this is a great this is a this is a great point, actually, about not just Obama, but about all of these distant removed from reality central planner types.
They really do believe I I'm sure that Obama he passed the stimulus.
That's all you had to do.
Magic would happen.
And remember we got stories six months, nine months later, a year later that said Obama was shocked.
He was he was surprised.
But you're exactly right.
The jobs council will meet for two hours.
They'll come up with some proposals, and it's done.
And you move on to the next thing.
And and then no matter what happens, you say you did it.
You dealt with it, and as much as can be done has been done, and just give me some more time.
You're exactly right.
Yeah, that's the science evolved.
I mean, I you know, I drive a 15 passenger van.
I could increase my mileage by trading it in for a smart car or so-called smart car.
You know, I'm not gonna do that.
No, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You've forgotten the number one thing from Barack Obama himself.
The number one thing is to make sure the tire pressure in your in your van is uh you need to you know what it was tire pressure uh gauges.
He did, folks.
He said that was the one of the best things you could do to improve your mileage was to make sure you had the right pressure in your tires.
Everybody should have a gauge.
Right.
Anyway, your observations right on the money.
I appreciate it.
That's that's uh No, I I th I was just gonna say that I think keep a sharp eye on Axelrod threatening gallop.
Gallup's now got Romney up seven, fifty-two to forty-five out there uh in their rolling seven-day average daily presidential tracking poll.
And you've got David Fluff of the campaign there are there outside, don't pay any attention to these polls.
It's kind of interesting, in a way.
Three weeks ago, a bunch of Republicans said, Oh, pay attention to those polls, those polls don't mean it.
But the Democrat samples out there wasn't and a Democrats all believe the polls.
Now there's been a 180.
And as the Democrats said, don't believe those polls, there's no way Raman's leading.
And we're saying now's the time to start believing the polls because now's when the pollsters start really caring about how their results are going to be measured against reality.
This is when they really do matter.
Here's Denise in Pocatello.
Sorry, Pocatello, Idaho.
Right.
How are you?
Hi, Raj.
How are you today?
Well, I'm a little disappointed.
I just lit a cigar that is not drawing very well.
In fact, there's no smoke in it.
Well, I'll talk for a while so then you can take a nice long draw off.
Well, no, there's no draw.
That's why I'm gonna sit here, I'm sucking nothing.
Oh, yeah.
Anyway, what's uh what I've been listening to you since the nineties, first time caller, and what I'm calling about today is that uh we used to be that middle class family, and you know, we used to be able to go out there and spend a little money on the economy and do a little shopping, and now um, you know, I was a realtor for ten years, and nobody talks about in the real estate field all the realtors that lost their jobs and what they had to do to go out there and find employment.
And I ended up having to take a minimum wage job and work that for two years because you do what you have to do for your family.
Well, not Some people look at it that way.
You do.
Some don't.
Well, I worked private sector my whole life.
And uh, you know, so I thought that I was uh fortunate because I had gotten a government job.
Where were you have you always been in Idaho?
No, I'm originally from Montana.
And when did you move to w where did the where did the real estate business uh turn bad for you?
Where were you then?
I was in Montana.
In Montana.
Yeah, I was trying to stay ahead of the market, and uh so we moved to Idaho because it hadn't hit here as much as it had hit in Montana.
A lot of people from California relocate to Idaho.
Yeah, they do.
Well, and I managed to, you know, make it for two years, but after that you can't afford all the dues, the local dues, the state dues, the national dues, the office fees, and you just can't afford it.
And uh see that's another you're exactly right.
This is it when you hear about housing starts uh and new housing construction, you you never think about the ancillary impact.
The people who sell them, the people who build them, uh and the people who buy them as well.
Well, I'm glad you called.
I appreciate uh appreciate your time.
Thanks very much, Denise.
We must take a an obscene uh profit time uh uh uh Yeah, see profit.
We'll be back.
Okay, gonna grab a replacement cigar here, folks, and uh be right back at you.
We're not going anywhere.
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