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May 10, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 10, 2012, Thursday, Hour #2
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I have Cookie tracking down this little soundbite blurb.
And I'll read to you again here quickly.
And we'll throw it in with the rest of the excerpts, the outtakes from this hard-hitting, wide-ranging.
Tough to get interview, Robin Roberts had with Barack Obama yesterday, but he said, he said she's asking him about Biden.
And Biden said, well, you know, Joe did get outside his skis a little bit, meaning, yeah, Joe's off the reservation.
He's out there cavorting with Elizabeth Warren.
And he forgot where he was for a minute.
And uh but the truth is this what this is what Obama said too.
Robin Roberts, I had already made a decision that we were probably going to take this position before the election before the convention, meaning that same sex marriage should take place.
That's all he said yesterday, but I I can't emphasize enough.
All you people writing checks, you might want to call the bank.
Well, I'm just trying to help.
All he did was say that the states have sway over this.
Nothing really changed.
The New York Times, you people writing checks to Obama, you ought to read the New York Times lead editorial.
They know they're not happy with what happened yesterday.
Anyway, I had already made a decision.
We were going to probably take this position before the election, before the convention.
Well, now wait a minute.
I thought he was evolving.
But he's in the White House sitting in a room there evolving.
They painted this picture of Obama deep in thought, struggling.
A mental struggle.
Should I or should I not come out for gay marriage?
Should I or should he not?
For days.
For days on it, finally consulted with his two daughters.
What they know about it, I don't know.
Consulted with Muchell.
What she knows about it, I don't know.
But whatever they told him, this is the story.
Now he tells Robin Roberts yesterday.
And it, you know, just went over her head or through her head or whatever.
The whole point of the interview yesterday was to make this big announcement.
He's telling her, yeah, if we'd made up our minds, we're going to announce this at some point.
You know, the real thing, you people writing checks to Obama today.
You should have one big question.
Where the hell were you, pal, before North Carolina?
If you had already made up your mind you were going to say this, why not say it before North Carolina and maybe try to impact the outcome there?
Instead of giving up and letting that state reaffirm its ban on gay marriage.
You know, just trying to help.
You all write in the checks had better really ask yourselves what you expect to get and what you have gotten in in this regard on this issue.
Because today from yesterday is no change.
Other than a bunch of media people saying history has been made.
If this is how you make history, I never knew it was so easy.
President comes out and says something.
We've got, by the way, the uh Obama timeline.
By the way, welcome back, Rush Limbaugh here.
As you know, uh 800 28282, if you want to be on the program.
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If you want to send an email, we do check them.
It's uh L Rushbo at EIBNet.com.
Politico has actually categorized and has links here to all these different flip-flops.
Obama's positions on gay marriage.
In 1996, Obama was for it.
He was not an elected official.
He was uh reading Sol Dolinsky or studying Solvolinsky.
He was agitating.
In 1998, he announced he was undecided on gay marriage.
And there's a link to it here.
Just don't doubt me.
I'm not, this is all politico stuff here.
2004.
Quote, I am not a supporter of gay marriage.
Why was this statement yesterday even necessary?
Because all of his public statements leading up to yesterday were that he was opposed to it.
So he had to come out.
He was evolving, you see.
So 1996, he's for it.
1998, he's undecided.
2004, he's not a supporter of gay marriage.
2006, he was reminded to remain open to the possibility that his unwillingness to support gay marriage is misconduated.
He was reminded to remain open to the possibility that his unwillingness to support gay marriage is misguided in 2006.
In 2008, he said marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman.
That's April of 2008.
In November 2008, he said he was not in favor of gay marriage.
In 2009, he was for the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act.
And by the way he made a statement yesterday about the DOMA, and he mispronounced I don't know if it did this on perfect.
He called it the Defense Against Marriage Act.
He did.
He said that he called it the Defense Against Marriage Act yesterday.
Could have just been a Freudian slip.
In 2009, Obama was for the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act.
In 2008, he was not in favor of it.
And in 2010, he admitted to an evolving attitude towards same-sex marriage.
The point is, he'd been all over the board on this issue.
See how easy people get played.
See how easy the media narrative or template is to create and have everybody fight.
All these people writing checks today.
Do not know that he's been all over the ballpark on this.
And for the most part, 2006, he said he's he's for it.
He's nothing but a John Kerry.
I was before it before I was against it.
Here's the bite.
It's on Good Morning America today.
He wants to have it both ways.
This is this is the question.
Vice President Biden's revelation he was absolutely comfortable with same-sex marriage.
Did he jump the gun a little bit there, Mr. President?
I had already made a decision that we were going to try to take this position before the uh before the election and before the convention.
He probably got out a little bit uh over skis, uh, but out of generosity of spirit.
If I had been conducting the interview, and if I had my wits about me, and now I know people interviewing the president sometimes they're in awe and they get dazzled.
Let's admit it.
People are people, and the president's the president, and the office of the presidency is the office of the presidency, you're in there in the oval orifice, you know what's going on in there.
Uh uh and you're walking the grounds and the cameras are there and so forth.
So you are there.
You're there, as you have been summoned as the preferred journalista.
You have been summoned because you're friend of family.
You're black, you're 51.
This politico, I'm not saying that politico is quoting an ABC producer as to why the White House wanted Robin Roberts.
She's 51, she's black, friend of the family, uh, wouldn't would not be a challenging.
So you know you're there.
You're there, but you history is going to be made for the first time ever.
The president of these United States is gonna say he's in favor of gay marriage.
But he hadn't said it.
That's why you're there.
The big announcement.
And then the president says, yeah, I'd already made a decision about this a while ago.
Don't know when, could have been the day before, two weeks ago, whatever, but I've already made a decision.
We're gonna take this position before the election before the convention.
Now stop and think that those were going to take this position.
So he told Robin Roberts, yeah, you're here for me to announce gay marriage.
But you know what?
I decided it already.
You're here to help me spin this.
He didn't say that to her, but that's but then.
Yeah, I've evolved, I've really thought about it, and it's in my heart, Robin.
I think we've been discriminating against these people for way too long.
It is time.
I'm gonna do everything I can to see to it that all these restrictions on gay marriage are lifted, and gay parent people get married, and it's a matter of federal law.
He didn't do that.
He didn't do that at all.
He said, Yeah, we decided that we're probably going to take this position.
It's a calculation.
The pure calculation.
Here's Stephanopoulos.
So let's keep going with the soundbites because these are funny.
This is Stephanopoulos, Diane Sawyer on uh World News Tonight last night.
Diane Sawyer said.
Recycling.
We heard that the president told Robin.
We heard what he said.
We heard that, George.
We heard history was made, George.
How about it?
Did the vice president really freelance in this, though?
It wasn't really a plan, George.
It wasn't really a plan.
George, you would know.
I know you work here, but you ran Democrat campaigns.
You would know.
Did what did Biden really freelance?
Or what was it part of the plan?
Oh, this was not a plan.
There's no way this was a plan.
If this is a matter of core conviction, the president said today a key issue where he's thinking has evolved.
You wouldn't send someone else out to make that decision.
But I do think what it did is show how the president's position had been untenable.
That you couldn't seem to be evolving through an election campaign where this is going to come up at the convention.
I've heard enough.
None of this matters.
Obama just said in the interview, we'd already decided to take this position before the election.
Wasn't part of a plan.
We'd George.
Ah.
I I know I'm not the only one that hears these things.
No, it couldn't have been a plan.
There was no way, Diane.
No way this was a plan.
You just heard Obama say we had already decided to take the position before the election before the convention.
George, was your birth control question of Mitt Romney back on January 7th?
Was that a plan?
Or did that just happen?
Stephanopoulos asked Romney, you think states should ban contraception?
Romney said, What?
I thought you were going to ask me about my high school pranks.
You're asking me about contraception.
Nobody's talking about contraception.
Well, I am, and I want to know, because there's a plan here to trip you people up on it.
Okay, so it couldn't have been a plan.
Folk, it couldn't know it.
Stephanopoulos, no way.
Obama said on their own air.
They'd already decided to take the position.
The next bite.
Yesterday afternoon, CNN Newsroom.
This is a montage of the infobay, Brooke Baldwin, reporting about Obama's pronouncement about gay marriage.
Breaking news here.
The president is now speaking up.
His uh evolution has finished when it comes to equal rights and marriage.
Breaking news, President Obama supports full equality when it comes to marriage.
Breaking historic news.
Now we're hearing that the president officially finished his evolution.
Stunning news today.
President Obama's making a historic statement here today with respect to same-sex marriage.
He finished his evolution.
What does that look like?
Let me tell you something.
So Obama says, well, and the White House I'm still evolving.
Okay, so the news media, okay, he's evolving evolution.
They report it that way.
So the White House sends up the pink smoke coming out of the chimney there in the White House.
The media gets the message, he's finished evolving.
We've got a position.
We have a pos it's like a butterfly now.
We have a position.
Oh, hallelujah.
Say what it is.
Flip Wilson's church of what's happening now.
We've got a decision breaking news.
The president has officially finished his evolution.
A bunch.
I can't be the only one.
What you realize the trained seal you have to be to have to report that or to put it on a prompter that way for an anchorette to read.
Let's uh keep going.
Shep Smith.
Shepard Smith, Elva Rid Fox News.
Yesterday afternoon, Studio B is Shepard Smith during a discussion with Obama or about Obama's completed evolution on gay marriage.
President of the United States.
Now in the 21st century.
And what I'm most curious about is whether it's your belief that in this time of rising debts and medical issues and all the rest, if Republicans would go out on a limb and try to make this a campaign issue while sitting very firmly without much question on the wrong side of history on it.
So Shep Smith, he's asking Brett Bear, the host of uh special report with Brett Bear, asking, hey, Brett, so the Republicans are gonna keep talking about the economy, or they're gonna talk about it, because they're obviously on the wrong side of history.
Republicans on the wrong side of history finding that a country is finally hit the 21st century, according to Shemp Smith.
Republicans uh without much question on the wrong side of history on this issue.
Without much question at all, wrong Shep, where's the issue one?
Where does it emerged victorious, Ship?
Outside your house.
Where has this election been, or this issue won an election?
Yeah, what state?
Tell me where it's happened.
In California.
Anyway, here's Brett Baer's response to uh Shep Smith saying the Republicans wrong side of uh history on this 24th.
You point to the Gallup poll 5048, it's very close.
And you're right, there has been an evolution on people's thinking, but you still look at 32 states when put to a vote, a referendum in those states, and the most recent, of course, last night in North Carolina, 32 states voted to ban same-sex marriage.
So those are voters going to the polls, even in California, making that choice.
So I don't know if you can say, because of this Gallup poll that electorally it is a perfect position for a candidate to run on.
Exactly right.
What are you gonna look at, Shep?
You want to look at the polls?
You want to look at the votes?
You want to look at the president's and Shep?
Did you even hear what he said?
Nothing's changed.
It's still up to the Hicks and the Hayseeds in the States.
Oy, they I just sit here and I sometimes.
I think Obama's on the wrong side of history.
He's on the wrong side of history at Obama cares on the wrong side of history, even on this.
These polls, come on, folks.
Telephone rings, somebody on the phone.
We're calling today to ask about gay marriage.
Do you uh believe it's proper and fair and even okay to discriminate against uh homosexuals who want to get married or you think it no, no, no, no!
I don't discriminate against anybody hang up and get counted as supporting gay marriage.
Uh I don't know where there's a disconnect here.
You have at least public opinion polls, gay marriage overwhelmingly popular, but yet it can't get close to winning an election.
You know what this is?
This is again, I you know what there are gonna be a big bash as a 40,000 dollar plate fundraiser Clooney's house tonight on Hollywood.
And you know what's gonna happen?
Obama's gonna get there, and all these people can see him speak, and they're gonna applaud him, Mr. President.
Guts.
Coverage.
Never had anybody like nothing's changed, nothing's been in fact, Obama hadn't even signed the non-discrimination executive order.
He hadn't even signed it.
And this is something that gay rights groups have been pushing, and he's refused to sign it.
He continues to refuse to sign.
When it comes time to put teeth to this, Obama keeps the mouth closed.
He's not moving legally forcefully at all on this issue.
He's just out there talking.
But he's not moving the ball forward at all.
But he's gonna get praise.
Oh, ma'am, Mr. President, and and he's everybody in at Clooney's house tonight is gonna really feel special, and they're gonna feel like they're part of history, and they're gonna think something really major of profound and crucial importance has happened, and not a thing has happened.
Not one substantive thing has happened.
And Obama's gonna soak it all in, and he's gonna leave there.
You know what?
There really isn't anybody better than I am.
There isn't anybody more thoughtful, compassionate, and I own those people.
He's gonna walk out of there.
I had Clooney and every damn one of these people in palm of my hand.
And they paid 40,000 to spend a couple minutes with me.
Not one thing will have changed.
Not one substantive thing will happen.
Everybody in the room be lying to each other about all this is going on.
That just confirms what?
It's never the substance or the results that really count.
It's the intentions.
Obama's getting accolades for his good intentions.
Praised for his good intentions.
And all the people in the room, they're going to end the night thinking they're better than everybody else.
They care more than you.
They have put their money behind gay marriage.
They have seen to when nothing's changed and they haven't done diddly squat, but they'll tell themselves otherwise.
So welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Tonight, Barack Obama will be appearing at the Hollywood home of the actor George Clooney.
$40,000 to get in.
It's a dinner.
$40,000 a person to get in there.
We have rising unemployment.
We have a plummeting economy.
We have national debt and individual debt piling up.
Home values are plummeting.
A health care bill on the verge of implementation nobody wants.
And Obama is hobnobbing at 40 grand a person, where he will tonight be fetted with accolade after accolade after accolade.
For all of his great courageous hard work on gay marriage.
An issue that so far people in 32 states have turned down.
And we are the ones who are out of touch.
You talk about out of touch, removed, distant.
Here he is, by the way, exactly what I was just talking about.
These people are going to get together and they're going to pat each other on the back and tell each other they're they're just a cat's meow.
They're fighting a good fight against discrimination and bigotry.
They're making sure that decent, hardworking Americans have the same opportunities as everybody else has.
And they're going to gather around and celebrate the one man who's had the courage to make it happen.
Barry Obama.
Not a thing has changed.
Obama even said states ought to continue to decide the issue, which means he agrees with what happened in North Carolina, interestingly.
But guess what?
And this is nothing happens, no substance, not, and they're all going to be patting each other on the back and feeling like they're the best people in the world.
And Obama's going to walk out of there thinking his head is not going to fit out the door.
He's going, I've had these people upon my hand.
They all paid 40 grand to spend some time with me.
Because I'm the catch me up.
I am the best person in the world.
I'm it.
They know it.
And they all may tell each other that what they're doing matters.
They may actually tell themselves that they've moved the issue forward when not a thing's happened.
And Obama hasn't done diddly squat, there's not one change.
And get this.
New York Times reporting.
Norman Lear, TV producer Autumn of Family.
Said moments after Obama finished his evolution and turned into a butterfly.
Second time I've said that today.
First time was at 115.
Finish his evolution, turned into a butterfly.
Norman Lear turned to his wife.
They had both held back from giving money to Obama because Obama had not led the way on gay marriage.
And Norman Lear could barely contain himself.
And he went for the checkbook.
And he wrote two checks.
Forty grand each.
Maybe one check for eighty.
And he's gonna be a Clooney's place too.
Well, I don't know if he's going to Clooney's, but he's donating to it.
This is the kind of leadership we support.
This is why we are happy to max out today to Obama's re-election campaign.
Norman.
Norman.
Norman listens.
It's how he keeps his heart pumping.
Blood pressure up.
Norman.
You've got to look further.
Nothing's changed, Norman.
He hadn't even signed the non-discrimination executive order.
There's no Norman.
Did you know that he'd already made up his mind that this was going to be the end of his evolution?
At least a week ago.
And I'm talking to a uh a blank frame here.
Because it's all about the intentions.
It's all about the end of the day.
I cared.
And you didn't.
I care about any discrimination.
I care about equality.
I care about fairness.
And you don't.
My president cares about it.
Yeah, what's he done?
That doesn't matter.
He cares.
He's trying.
Makes me feel better about myself.
What have you done?
Well.
Well, my support the guy who's trying.
At least he's trying.
Has he done anything?
Whoa.
No, but well then.
Isn't it all kind of phony?
Oh, I don't want to think it's phony.
That would destroy my whole life.
My whole life has been phony then.
If that's true, this is phony.
Well, reality's reality.
Okay.
Starting in Northridge, California.
Hi, Michael.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Thanks, Rod.
Megadiddos.
If I was a uh a pro-gay marriage advocate in North Carolina, I I'd get very, very angry.
I mean, I'm I'm laughing, but I'd get very angry hearing Ellen DeGeneres talk about how brave Obama is, okay, having come out in support of gay marriage.
I mean, the day after the election.
Where was he before the election?
Exactly right.
With his high popularity poll ratings and likability poll ratings.
Yes, exactly right.
Where is he spending that capital?
Where is he spending that capital?
Where is he putting it to good works?
Where is he advancing?
Why does he wait until a landslide lost to come out?
Exactly.
And Rush, I gotta ask you one question here.
Okay.
Does this mean that Barney Frank's gonna invite Obama now to his wedding?
Well, um you are assuming that I would know.
Uh said, but wait a minute, let me grab a soundbite.
Hang on just a second, because Barney, here it is.
Grab audio soundbite number 15.
You gotta hear you gotta hear this, Michael.
Last night on CNN CNN's Ern uh Aaron Burnett tonight, she she interviewed uh Barney Frank, and they were talking about Obama's uh pronouncement on gay marriage, and they actually compared engagement rings.
Barney and Aaron.
And here it is.
I ran into a friend I haven't seen in a long time.
I was walking on Fifth Avenue from a doctor appointment, and I ran into him and he said uh he got engaged this weekend.
Yeah, sort of like you now that he can get married.
He was showing me his ring, and we were joking about you know, masculine and feminine engagement rings and what they look like, and it was just it was a great conversation, and uh I and I loved seeing his ring.
Well, let me get in with his mind, it's tungsten.
Tim, the man I'm gonna marry, is a welder.
He puts up on him, he does welding, and he picked out these rings.
Uh, tungsten is kind of symptomatic of where you've been in Sabag, and also he's a very practical guy, he knows my propensities.
I break things.
So this is uh he told me this is unbreakable.
We'll see.
I love it.
I love it.
Well, thank you for sharing that.
I got engaged myself recently, so um I was I was curious.
Thank you for sharing.
Oh, you have it.
So uh Aaron Burnett.
Thanks for sharing that.
Exactly right.
Uh uh she got engaged.
Thank you for sharing that your engagement ring is tungsten.
Barney.
And it uh your guy you're gonna marry is welder.
the welder.
So Barney, it's a good thing he's marrying a welder because Barney breaks things, and the welder will be there to fix them.
Practical.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't I don't know any more than what you know.
I I didn't there's no more to this than what we uh aired.
Okay, yeah.
Uh uh you know there's a difference in male and female engagement rings.
And and Barney was proof of that because his engagement ring is tungsten.
Tungsten, what where is tungsten used primarily?
Do you know off the top of your head?
What are you saying, Rachel?
What do you say?
Where is it used primarily?
She's close.
She's very she said photography.
Very, very, very close.
No, tungsten does not mean it's made out of tongues.
Uh some are asking me if Barney's engagement ring is made out of tongues.
No, no, no.
Tungsten.
Tungsten.
It's um it's evolving photography.
Rachel's close.
Let's take a brief time out and uh come back with the answer after this.
I just got a note from my good friend the fish god.
Steve Abernathy.
He's uh he raises tilapia, which is an Egyptian fish, raises them for restaurants, and one of the things that he does is is he can he he changes male fish to female fish so that there will be more fish?
Because he wants as many tilapia as he can to sell them.
And when he told me how he biogenetically engineers this, I went down to his fish farm down near New Orleans, and he showed me as I called him the fish god.
My God, you're tampering with with tilapia genetics here.
Bio by said, yep, that's what I do.
He just sent me a note.
He said, Can somebody explain to me when in the entire history of mankind has marriage not been defined as a union between a man and a woman?
Did anybody have an answer to that?
When in the entire history of mankind has marriage not been defined as a union between a man and a woman?
And yet, let's go to audio sound bites.
Number eight.
Nope.
Yep, number eight, because it's a short little montage about how finally Obama and the Democrats are on the right side of history, and of course the Republicans are on the wrong side of history.
Welcome to the right side of history, Mr. President.
He's on the right side of history.
The right side of history.
The President of the United States is on the right side of history.
Right.
Well, yes, polygamous cultures, I understood, but but when in human history has marriage meant something other than a union of males and females.
It hasn't.
It has not.
Why are you staring at me with your mouth wide open?
What is you got against the Spartans?
What are you what do you think the what do you think of the Spartans did?
I'm talking marriage.
Not sex.
Marriage.
Am I the only one?
You know, I it's gotten to the point I send emails to people, and the subject line, please really read this so I don't have to send it again.
Every email almost is preceded by a plea for me, please read the whole thing maybe twice before asking me a question that's answered here already.
Um the right side of history?
My point, the right side of his when in human history has marriage ever been not been the union of a man and a woman.
It's all I'm asking.
Asking.
Oh, and folks, one other little uh side observation today, it's Thursday.
Do you know that new unemployment numbers came out today?
You didn't know that?
I wonder why.
Wonder why you haven't heard anything about the unemployment numbers today.
Yeah.
I think applications for new uh unemployment benefits were down a thousand, which is a rounding error.
And it's it's news that is fit to be hidden.
Nobody's talking about it.
The drive by's aren't talking about nobody's talking about it.
Where are we going next on the phones?
Michael in uh Hawaii in the big island.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Hi.
Aloha.
Ditto's rush Mahalo.
I call.
Well, my comment here is that a few weeks ago, um Romney said that he spoke to his wife about women's issues.
And then the libs and the media said that uh Romney's wife was not qualified to do so, since she's never worked a day in her life.
Yeah.
Well, now Obama said he spoke to his wife and daughters about gay marriage issues.
As if they were qualified to do so.
Well, they've never been gay a day in their lives.
So where is that flip-flop?
Um, I can't answer that.
What are you expecting?
What kind of trap are you springing on me here today?
Here, let's grab audio soundbite eleven.
In case you didn't hear that, hang on there, don't go away, Michael.
Here's audio sound by uh number eleven.
This is yesterday in ABC.
Uh broke into uh regular programming, a special report about Obama's uh evolution being finished on on gay marriage.
Malia and Sasha, they've got friends whose parents are same-sex couples.
And I you know, there have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we've been talking about their friends and their parents, and Male and Sasha, it wouldn't dawn on them that somehow their friend's parents would be treated differently.
It doesn't make sense to them.
And and frankly, that's the kind of thing that prompts a change of perspective.
Even though he'd already made up his mind.
Earlier in the interview, he had he'd already made up his mind on this.
But but Michael here has a great question.
It really is a good question.
Mitt Romney says that his wife informs him on economic circumstances American women are facing.
And Hillary Rosen, what the hell?
She's never worked a day in her life.
She wouldn't have the slightest idea.
And of course, the media tries to run with it until it backfires.
Now, Obama basically, as as Michael here just said, has cited his wife and his two daughters as qualified to advise his thinking on gay marriage.
Now the natural response is, come on.
Michelle Obama has never been gay a day in her life or married to a woman a day in her life, and certainly your daughters have it if if things were equal and c nobody said that.
Nobody on the Republican, because we're on the wrong side of history, so we wouldn't have thought of it that.
But you see, there isn't he's right, George or Michael is exactly right as a double standard here.
But Hillary Rosen didn't get away with it.
That's why by the way, why is marriage called matrimony?
Well, matrimony implies matter, M-A-T-E-R.
Maternal, what does that mean?
Woman means woman.
Patra is father.
As in patricide, kill your kids.
Uh but they don't there's no patrimony.
Matrimony.
Because you gotta have motherhood in there.
Okay.
All right.
I just saw the clock, folks.
Uh, even I know we're on a huge roll here, and you don't want this to ever end, and neither do I. But Washington Post has a story on Romney and uh what a some of the hurtful things he did playing pranks in high school.
And Romney's apologized for today.
I kid you, did they run a story?
He apologizes for his high school pranks.
The Washington Post is alleging that Romney mocked and assaulted a presumed homosexual teenager fifty years ago.
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