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May 7, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 7, 2012, Monday, Hour #3
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Here we go.
Back we are Rush Limbaugh and the EIB network talent on loan from God Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have You know this something Still trying to put my finger on this in a manner speaking Joe Biden in fact Mike before we do the Jose Rodriguez.
Let me find Biden.
Where is Biden?
What soundbite number is Joe Biden?
Is it 16?
I'm at 15.
Let me see.
Let me 16.
Yep.
There it is.
No, it's 17.
This is Joe Biden, and this was yesterday on Meet the Depressed on NBC, David Gregory talking to the vice president during a discussion about gay marriage.
Now, why did this come up?
Why?
Well, I know, look, there's the picture.
There's the picture of nobody in the upper deck Sunday.
That's the picture.
It's on Fox right now taken by Romney's campaign guy at Obama's coming out party on Saturday at Ohio State.
There's nobody in the upper deck.
And we had a caller from there saying that students were going door to door all week trying to get students to show up at Obama's.
And they were saying it's not political.
It's just the president showing up.
And folks, I have to tell you something.
Obama has, they've written off white working class voters.
They've done this.
It's not arguable.
Don't doubt me.
They've made a decision to write them off.
Basically, minorities, people on welfare, and college kids, that's where Obama's going to get reelected.
And they couldn't fill an arena at Ohio State University with the one arriving, and they thought it would fill.
And going back, they're trying to relive 2008.
And one of the problems is, is that with college kids, Obama's now a fad.
That's not hip anymore, not cool.
We've been there, done that.
We did that four years ago.
Plus now, in the four years since Obama was going to unite everybody and bring about all this utopian stuff, all these college students are graduating and they don't have jobs.
And it's a tough sell to get them to blame George W. Bush.
George W. Bush had been part of their life for four years.
What's Bush got to do with it?
They invested everything in Obama.
You know, celebrity lists, they are strictly media lists, in-list, out-list, who's in, who's out, who's high, who's low, these fad things.
Obama's on the out lists now with people who follow the celebrity culture.
I make both, so I'm never out of it.
I'm always on the in-list or an out-list somewhere.
And it's always been the case.
But Obama is on the outs.
It's a fad.
Been there, done that with these college kids.
I mean, an absolute effort knocking on doors.
Hey, the president's coming Saturday.
Why don't you come?
It's not going to be political.
He just goes show up, and that couldn't even get him out.
It totally empty up the duck.
Anyway, Biden taught gay marriage.
Now, I know that the pro-gay marriage forces are really leaning on Obama here, but this is an issue they'd really, I don't know what they'd prefer probably not to deal with.
Anyway, Gregory asks Biden this.
He says, the president has said that his views on gay marriage, same-sex marriage, have evolved, but he's opposed to it.
You're opposed to gay sex, gay marriage, same-sex marriage, Mr. Vice President.
Have your views evolved?
What this is all about is a simple proposition.
Who do you love?
Who do you love?
And will you be loyal to the person you love?
And that's what people are finding out: what all marriages at their root are about.
Whether they're marriages of lesbians or gay men or heterosexuals.
Is that what you believe now?
That's what I believe.
Okay, so the vice president has come out for gay marriage.
That the media is going nuts with this news today.
Let's play the next sound bite here because Gregory said, well, you comfortable with same-sex marriage now then.
Is that right?
I am absolutely comfortable with the fact that men marrying men, women marrying women, and heterosexual men and women marrying men are entitled to the same exact rights, all the civil rights, all the civil liberties.
In a second term, will this administration come out behind same-sex marriage, the institution of marriage?
I can't speak to that.
I don't know the answer to that, but I take a look at when things really begin to change is when the social culture changes.
I think Will and Grace probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody's ever done so far.
And I think people fear that, which is different.
Now they're beginning to understand.
So, Will and Grace, an NBC sitcom, did more to educate the American people on same-sex marriage than the human rights campaign, Gay Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, Massachusetts State Supreme Court, and all the gay individuals that went out there and got married.
Will and Grace did more.
And of course, then Entertainment Tonight follows.
And the E-Entertainment TV did more for the.
I'll tell you something else.
Today's White House press briefing, the spokeskid, Jay Carney, took a question that was probably a plant about same-sex marriage.
And it gave Carney a chance to once again say that Obama's views on the issue are evolving.
So you have bite me over the weekend.
Let it be known that he is comfortable with the idea of same-sex marriage because he watched Will and Grace.
So they're now trying to play that card and stir up that part of their base this week without Obama committing to it.
Obama's still evolutioning.
Obama's still evolving.
But Biden is there.
So somebody is going to have to put together a DVD package of select episodes of Will and Grace and get them over to Obama so that he too can get up to speed on this issue.
David Gregory did point out, to his credit, I'd say, did point out the hypocrisy of Biden attacking Romney, saying he wouldn't have pulled the trigger on killing bin Laden when Biden himself said he was opposed to killing bin Laden.
So Gregory did let Biden have it on that.
But here they're trying to have both ways with this issue.
But this is what their campaign's been reduced to is this niche campaigning or niche, if you prefer to pronounce it, niche campaigning.
They basically, I'll tell you what they're doing.
They're writing when they say that they are not interested in the votes of white working-class Americans.
That's a big chunk.
That's the old Reagan Democrats and so forth.
White working class, middle class, lower middle class, not interested in that.
They're not interested in the mainstream.
They're not seeking reelection from the mainstream.
Unless the mainstream is the unemployed, college students, and militant radical minorities.
If that's who the mainstream is, that's where they're headed.
Okay, my all-time, this is going to be close.
To my all-time, or this is close to my all-time favorite.
I can't say it is my all-time favorite because I don't remember them all.
But this is clearly in the top five.
April 29th, Leslie Stahl, 60 Minutes, interview of Jose Rodriguez, who was the chief interrogator of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed at Club Gitmo.
And I love this bite because I, as I listen to it, firmly believe that Jose Rodriguez knows exactly who he's dealing with and is having fun with her and she doesn't know it.
He knows he's talking to somebody who thinks raising your voice at somebody is torture.
He knows he's dealing with somebody who thinks that he committed atrocities and crimes.
So he describes the harmless activities he engaged in with Sheikh Mohammed as dire techniques.
These dire techniques.
That's my favorite line in this bite.
Oh, yes, it was one of those dire techniques.
Here it is.
Her question.
So what happens after he's waterboarded?
What happens?
Does he break down?
Does he cry?
Does he fall apart?
No, he gets a good night's sleep.
He gets his insurer.
By the way, he was very heavy when he came to us and he lost 50 pounds.
What, his insure?
You mean like people in the hospital who drink that stuff?
Yes, dietary manipulation was part of these dire techniques.
So sleep deprivation, dietary manipulation.
I mean, this is Orwellian stuff.
The United States doesn't do that.
Well, we do.
Well, we do.
Dietary manipulation was part of these dire techniques.
Dietary manipulation.
Insure.
A product that keeps cancer patients alive in the hospital considered torture by Leslie Stahl.
And I think Jose Rodriguez knew it.
And when he calls dietary manipulation part of the diet techniques, he was taunting her.
She didn't even know.
So I pointed this out.
We played it two or three times, maybe more, played it again just now.
This past Thursday in New York City at the New York Historical Society, they had a panel discussion there about the 2012 presidential race.
The moderator, Snarkly, stop screening for a minute.
You got to listen to this case.
We get phone calls about it.
New York Historical Society on Thursday, Leslie Stahl, moderating a panel discussion on 2012 presidential race, said this about the campaign and the media.
Here's something that's happened over the last couple of years that's frustrating to me, and that is when you say we the press, and then the press is this big salad bowl.
And who's in the press?
It's Rush Limbaugh's in the press, Fox is in the press, MSNBC.
I mean, all these people who are devoting themselves to little slices of the pie are in with the so-called mainstream media.
We're all the same thing now to the public.
We're not the same thing.
It's just, see, they used to have a monopoly.
And now the monopoly is gone, and I'm now considered to be in the same business as Leslie Stahl.
I can't tell you how insulted I am.
That's your little slice of the pie.
All these people, little slices of the pie.
I would dare say that the EIB network rivals CBS News, CBS Evening News.
I'd say our audience is larger than the CBS Evening News is.
I don't think there's any question about it.
You want to start talking about slices of the pie, but that's not the point.
The point is, I am the turd in the salad bowl.
That's what the point is.
I am the Tootsie Roll in the swimming pool at Caddyshack.
And she just can't stand it because the salad used to be pure and clean.
And now, ladies and gentlemen, their monopoly has been destroyed.
And it's no longer ABC, CBS, NBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post manipulating the minds of the American people.
Now there's too much freedom in the media.
But I guarantee I got mentioned first because I keep playing this soundbite with Jose Rodriguez, a dietary manipulation with part of those dire techniques.
I love it.
I just love it.
Okay, we are back and to the phones we go.
Daniel in Las Vegas.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Good afternoon, Rush.
How are you?
Fine, sir.
Thanks much.
Listen, I've been watching sports.
I grew up in Pittsburgh.
As a matter of fact, I listened to you when you were at WPXI in Pittsburgh back in the day as Jeff Christie, I believe.
That would have been at KQV.
Oh, KQV, yes.
I had some friends.
TXI Channel 11 at the time, I think.
Yeah.
Oh, and before I even continue, one more small correction.
You mentioned the Tootsie Roll in Caddyshack.
I believe it was a baby Ruth.
Was it a baby Ruth?
All right.
Same difference.
Yeah, same difference, right.
But anyway, I love your show.
I've been a fan of yours since you started.
I even lost girlfriends over you, and I have a girlfriend now, Lucy, that just loves you like I do.
Well, it all worked out in the end.
It all worked out.
Yes, yes.
And that's true.
But I got so many issues.
I've been trying to call you since the Clinton days because, you know, it was so great of you to speak the way you do about him and his administration.
And I couldn't get through.
And it frustrated me all these years.
And I'm finally so thankful I got a hold of you now.
Well, here you are.
Congratulations.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate your persistence.
And I wish I only had the budget to afford to go online and be a part of your Rush 24 program where I could email you my thoughts, but I can't.
I apologize for that.
But anyway, a couple of points I wanted to make is I grew up in Pittsburgh in the 70s.
I met several of the Steelers back then, Terry Bradshaw, to mention a few, Rocky Blair, Franco Harris, and so on.
And those guys, they took their hits, and they never whined to the referee.
All right.
Joe Green, I think, said, if you hit me, I'm going to hit you.
In other words, the game was in check.
We didn't violate each other.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
That's the way it should be today.
Not this.
Well, if somebody did something wrong to me, I'm going to go to the ref and have this arbitrated.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, I don't know that the it's in what's what's fascinating about what's happening in the NFL right now is that the players A vast majority, 90% of them are saying, Leave us alone.
We want to play the game.
The game is what it is, and we know the risks.
And while they're playing, we love it.
And a lot of them are being quoted.
By the way, this is not helpful.
A lot of them being quote saying, I know I'm running the risk of not knowing who my kids are when I'm 50.
I know that I'm running a risk for Alzheimer's and so forth.
Because they're, by the way, they're trying to attach every mental illness that is known to exist.
When it happens to a football player after he quits playing, whether there's evidence to support it or not, they're linking it to football.
Alzheimer's, dementia, dizziness, forgetfulness, suicide, whatever it is.
They are linking it to football.
There is an all-out effort.
Now, the players are the ones, the vast majority of them, who are saying, wait a minute, don't change the game.
We love the game.
Of course, the sports writer is saying, well, they don't know what's good for them.
All the smart people, they don't know what's good for them.
Of course, they play the game.
Take it out of their hands.
They're the last to know.
The ones playing, they're the last to know what's going on.
And the fans, the fans are not clamoring for big changes.
That's what's remarkable here.
And of course, that's being used.
Well, see, the fans are a bunch of bloodthirsty.
They want this violence.
The fans want to see horrible injuries.
They want to see the big hits.
That's why George Will says that it's taking on aspects of the barbarism in the Roman Coliseum.
So the players and the fans are the two primary groups who are not upset about anything.
The retired players, the media and the commissioner's office are saying, we've got a big problem here.
The commissioner can understand this is a multi, multi-multi-billion dollar business industry that it is his responsibility to shepherd, to protect, and to grow.
And he can see what's happening.
He knows on a number of different fronts where the game is being attacked.
And it's not just concussions and head injury.
It's being attacked in a number of ways from a number of different places.
Cultural, taunting penalties, trying to maintain control of the game on the field, all kinds of different things.
But this, I don't know, I don't know that anybody involved here really yet understands the train has left the station and it's well down the tracks now toward a fundamental altering of this game.
Now, I'm not going to predict because I don't know whether the people that are really claiming to be profoundly upset by the mental injuries, because nobody can prove anything yet.
There's some limited evidence of brain injury in football players when they studied some brains, but there's not enough of them yet to make it any more than anecdotal.
They can't scientifically say that playing the game leads to Alzheimer's.
Playing the game leads to mental illness.
They can't say it, but they can imply it and they can say it enough to make people think that there's a link, which is what's happening now.
And I just, it's fascinating to see this because the players don't want any change.
This is how they make their living.
And they love the game.
They love it.
They've been brought up to play it.
They've been taught to play it this way.
Anyway, we're out of time.
I wish I could go on and I will in mere moments.
Sit tight.
We'll be right back.
Folks, I just learned, I was just told that feminist activists, feminists are tweeting en masse, trying to get women to share their stories about the challenges of accessing birth control for Mother's Day.
For Mother's Day.
I kid you not.
Apparently, there's a pretty wide Twitter campaign.
Feminists are asking women to share their stories about the challenges of getting birth control for Mother's Day.
That's what I'm being told.
I kid you not.
Great to have you back.
Here we are at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
I mentioned at the top of the program, Tom Brokaw, upset, thinks that the entire White House correspondence dinner needs to be rethought.
Before we get to that, there's one Brokaw bite prior.
He was on Meet the Press during the roundtable with David Gregory.
And they were talking about the presidential race, Obama's campaign rallies.
And David Gregory said, there's a strong place for government, Obama says.
Strong place for government, Tom.
What do you think of Obama saying that there's a strong place for government?
I've been all over the country in the last three weeks.
And with all due respect to the president, there's a real wariness out there.
They've gone from having pneumonia now to having a kind of strong virus when they look at the economy.
And you can use that old phrase, you know, fool me once, that's your fault.
Fool me twice, it's my fault.
The fact is that they want real hard, tangible evidence in their communities, in their states, that it's going to get a lot better.
And I think that they have lowered their expectations.
We're not going to get back to where we were before all this began very swiftly.
Would somebody explain to me how that equals victory?
No, no, no.
Seriously.
We're not France yet.
I know in my heart we're not France.
So Broca has just described, he's out there.
It's tough for the president.
A real wariness out there.
People have gone from having pneumonia to now having a strong virus when they look at the economy.
And they got fooled by Obama once, but not a second time.
People want real hard evidence in their communities, their states, that it's going to get better.
And people have lowered their expectations.
We're not going to get back to where we...
I don't know about you, but I have not lowered my expectations.
And nobody on the EIB staff has lowered their expectations.
And if they have and I find out about it, then we'll do something about it.
I refuse to believe.
Now, I could see some people out of work may be depressed and so forth, but you tell me that this, and I know Broca's not saying it.
I'm jumping off on this into a whole different point now.
I don't think Brokaw is arguing that this benefits Obama.
Don't misunderstand.
I'm just asking independently of this.
How in the world does this equal re-election?
With this characterization of the people of this country who don't expect to get back to where we were just three years ago, don't expect to get back to 5% unemployment, don't expect economic growth of 3% to 4% to 5%, don't expect that?
Damn wrong, they do.
That's why Obama's going to lose.
People do expect that.
People do expect this country to rebound.
We always come out of recessions.
Where did this settle in that people don't expect that?
I've got some Obama bites.
I've got a, well, I'm just going to find this Obama button because we've got some bites here with him talking.
It's going to be 15, 20 years.
What I think they start at number, ah, geez, everything's out of order.
Is it six, seven, and eight?
Yeah, six.
Okay, we'll get this second.
Here's Brokaw, also during the roundtable on Meet the Press, talking about the media coverage of the presidential race.
And Brokaw added this.
I was out on the road when the White House Correspondent Center popped up again.
And I looked at the C-SPAN coverage and read all the accounts of it.
And if there's ever an event that separates the press from the people that they're supposed to serve symbolically, it is that one.
It is time to rethink it.
George Clooney is a great guy.
I'd like to meet Charlie Srimone, but I don't think the big press event in Washington should be that glittering event where the whole talk is about Cristala Champagne taking over the Italian embassy, who had the best party, who got to meet the most people.
That's another separation between what we're supposed to be doing and what the people expect us to be doing.
And I think that the Washington Press Corps has to look at that.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Yeah, I'll do my best at explaining it.
When I first heard about this, I started asking myself, what was the White House Chorus Menace dinner like when Brokaw was the anchor of the nightly news and went to it?
I don't know.
But I, well, I do know, actually, it wasn't what it is today.
It was not Washington's version of the Academy Awards without the awards.
It was black tie, but the tradition was the president showed up and made fun of himself.
It was a self-deprecating night.
The president made fun of himself.
It was where the press that covers the president, they just had a, I'll tell you when the change came.
I know exactly when the change happened.
Started in about between 1988 and 1990 when the media's monopoly blew up and when the media started openly taking sides rather than hiding the fact that they were taking sides.
And when it became obvious that the media was itself involved in the ideological battle and not just covering it, that the event changed.
And that's when it became necessary for your allies to show up with you.
And the more glittering and the more famous, then the better.
And once they started inviting outside celebrities to the thing, then the cocktail parties began because those people have to be entertained.
I mean, after all, they call it the nerd prom for a reason.
So if you're asking the Hollywood glitterati, which is the top of the showbook, showbiz ladder, to show up with people near the bottom rung of it, you better have something for the top-rung people to have fun doing rather than just listen to political speeches.
So you bring them in and you have the pre-parties, the post-parties, and all to entertain the guests that show up and make it an attractive event for these glitteroti guests to accept the invitations.
And then the fact that Clooney and people like that are there is supposed to add credibility and glitter to the people in the trenches fighting the ideological war, the media, the reporters, the anchors and so forth, which makes them appear bigger.
And so sides were chosen even more.
And then what it became was the room is 80% Hollywood and Washington media, New York media, 20% conservative circus acts who show up to be laughed at and made fun of, all for the purpose of serving this tradition.
Now, the news media is out of touch.
But it's not because they're serving Christal Champagne.
How can you be out of touch when you're serving what P. Diddy drinks?
P. Diddy drinks when he's not drinking Chirok vodka.
He's drinking Sirok vodka.
He's drinking Christal.
All these rappers, all these guys order it by the case at these clubs.
Yes, they're groupies.
The Washington Press Corps is groupies for both the president when he's a Democrat and for the Hollywood glitter rotten and showbiz people they invite.
It's a chance for the gas station attendant to get a date with Cameron Diaz.
In a manner of speaking.
And then once that happens, and once the media admits that they're joining the ideological fight rather than ostensibly covering it, then the whole night becomes an extension of what they do every day, which is building up themselves and criticizing and trying to take down and take out their enemies.
And slowly but surely, the conservatives that show up are dwindling in number.
Now, the reason that Brokaw attacking it, I would have to guess that it's...
and I've asked this question about Democrats.
Is there an adult Democrat who sees where the current crop is taking this country and doesn't like it?
Is there one Democrat left that really isn't a radical utopian socialist or statist?
Is there one Democrat like old Bob Strauss used to be or Jack Valenti ran the Motion Picture Association?
Or are they all, and by the same token, are there any media people left who really are embarrassed at MSNBC?
Are there any media people left who really think that the whole industry is losing whatever reputation it had?
Maybe that is Broca, but he pulls no punches here.
Now, it's not because of Christal Champagne.
It's because the other stuff.
And I don't think, no, no, no, snor, it's not because he wasn't there and he's jealous and didn't get to meet Charlie's Thierren or Therone.
How does he, how does she pronounce her name?
I've never heard her.
Nobody knows?
Well, I don't either, so I don't want to be accused.
But these media people have lower approval numbers than Congress has.
Kind of stuff matters to him.
I got to take another brief time out as the time races by.
We'll be back after this.
Okay, so one of the Colombian press tourists is just on a TV network and said that the Secret Service agents were too direct in asking for services.
They were too direct.
So you're a harlot, which is an update upgrade from the word prostitute.
You're worried – how is it possible to be too direct when asking for sex from a prostitute?
It's not as though there's wine and dine and dinner and chocolates and a postcard to mother.
You're paying for it.
Yeah, why would you be too direct?
That's a good question, sir.
I don't have any experience with Colombian prostitutes, so I don't know what they expect.
But I do know this guy got in an argument with her over $47.
We need to put him in charge of the budget somewhere because the whole deal blew up for $47.
At least he had a decent idea what it was all worth, and he wasn't going to pay anything more than that.
But Fox News has a story.
A prostitute claiming to be at the center of the Secret Service scandal said in an interview, the men involved were completely stupid idiots and questioned how Obama could have had them on his security team.
They were on today's show.
Dania Londono Suarez said the men involved didn't seem shy about asking for, well, why should they?
How in the world?
You're supposed to be shy when you encounter a harlot?
Sounds like these women were looking for romance.
And the Secret Service guys got off the plane, zippers were already down, walked in the place and said, how much?
And their sensibilities are offended?
Sterdley, you should look into it.
Maybe there's a like a miss manners guide to dealing with Columbia prostitutes, an Emily post or whatever.
These guys just weren't aware of.
The direct approach, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Eric.
Hello and welcome to the EIB Network.
Hello, sir.
Peroditto's Rush.
Thank you, sir.
Longtime listeners, hey, just I'll be real quick about this.
I was just listening as Joe Biden was pontificating about the tremendous sociological impact that a sitcom has on shaping our societal values.
And the press is bowing in homage to his great insight.
But I'm remembering back when Dan Quayle mentioned how Murphy Brown was shaping the ideas and values of single mothers, and he was laughed off the airwave.
Well, at the time, yes.
But you know, I don't know how much longer it was.
It was either somewhat recently or not long after it happened.
Candace Bergen actually apologized.
Remember that?
And said that the vice president was right.
I don't remember the timeframe in which Candace Bergen did that.
I don't know if it was within weeks after Quayle had made the comments, but still you're right.
When a conservative cites a sitcom as a learning and teaching example, why, wonderful and great.
When a conservative criticizes one as a bad teaching instrument, then, yeah, it's not a pretty sight.
Mike, I want you to hold over these Obama soundbites, six, seven, and eight.
Cookie, hold them.
And F Chuck Tattoo, number nine.
Six through nine for tomorrow, because I'm not going to be able to squeeze them in there today.
You know, I see this story that the Columbia prostitutes, harlots, criticizing our Secret Service guys for their techniques.
It's clear something needs to be done.
And our Secret Service guys need a how-to guide.
Who better to write that than Bill Clinton?
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