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April 16, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 16, 2012, Monday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
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I have the real question.
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I do have a question, Rush Limbaugh at 800 282-2882, the email address lrushball at EIBNet.com.
Let's cut to the chase.
And let's get to the real question in the Secret Service Hooker scandal in Colombia.
What I want to know is, did those Colombian hookers have to pay for their own contraception?
Or are they covered under Obama's health care plan as it extends to the Secret Service agents?
That's the question.
That's what everybody ought to be asking.
With the war on women being waged at full strength, how could that question not come up?
How could that question not be asked?
It wasn't asked by anybody on the Sunday shows.
It hasn't been brought up by Hillary Rosen.
It hasn't been brought up by uh Anita Dunn.
I don't know if Obama's brought it up, but it's in it is it not the most important question?
Who paid for the hooker's contraception?
Do you realize what did these guys do that this whole Bruhaha oh is over 47 dollars?
The hooker charged one of the Secret Service guys 47 dollars.
That's what this is all about.
That's what I heard.
I and and and Hillary's out there drinking and dancing uh on a Saturday night, and her tip, the tip that she left the servers at the nightclub where she was was 40 bucks.
So Hillary left a smaller tip than the Secret Service agents are paying Colombian hookers.
And again, folks, we do not know if they had to buy their own birth control pills or uh other kinds of contraception.
This we just do not know.
I don't care what anybody says.
I really don't.
I'm just glad to see that there's one person in government who's still stingy with the taxpayers' dollars.
And I'm talking about that Secret Service guy who got in and out of there for 47 bucks.
That's got in and out of there for 47.
There's a part of me that says more power to the guy.
We are a country in debt.
This is a guy that's watching and counting his pennies.
And then there's that photo of Hillary dancing down in uh it was a pro-Cuban bar in uh in Columbia.
Uh we don't know if she was dancing or she was dodging snipper fire, uh, which uh what where'd that happen when she had a corkscrew land in there in Afghanistan?
See Afghan had a corkscrew land in there and had a dodge snipper fire.
Well, that's what the story said, folks.
The flight, you know what corkscrew is.
You uh because of the threat of terrorist missiles, so you have to it's really uh for people not familiar with flying, it's a it's a uh it can be a frightening thing.
You almost you're not going straight down, but your angle of descent's pretty steep, and you're corkscrewing to not make yourself a target.
And uh Denver International No, no, no, no, no, no.
There are other I know what you're talking about, airports that have dangerous uh approaches.
I don't think no.
Aspen, I think is uh is is riskier than uh than Denver is.
But anyway.
Um here's the thing is, I mean, who do these Secret Service guys think they are?
The GSA.
Everybody uh can I get serious here for just a second?
Everybody is asking, what or how can this happen?
And I you know, In all candor, folks, how how can people be surprised?
Our institutions have been under cultural assault for I don't know how many years.
Can I can I mention a name to you?
Bill Clinton, the President of the United States had a 19-year-old intern in the Oval Office.
And there was oral sex going on in there.
They went Elliot Spitzer, client number nine, the governor of New York, and now he's got he's on his second television show.
Bill Clinton is the most popular, the most famous and the wealthiest of all elected Democrats.
Well, that made his money in politics.
Well, that's I probably don't know that that's true.
But as Clinton will tell you, I don't need that task, because I'm I'm uh Hillary and Irish now.
So is there any one how old are these Secret Service guys?
I mean, let's look at their generation.
They came from a generation.
No, no, no, I'm being serious here.
They come from a generation where hooking up with somebody you barely know was the order of the day.
When they were young kids.
And what what what is going on at the upper levels of our great institutions that that are promoting historically traditional morality?
Where is it?
That's all that's under assault everywhere you go.
Did you see this is i it's not really related, but in a way it's telling.
Have you seen the story all of the people who twittered, young people who had no idea that the Titanic actually happened?
They thought it was just a movie.
Don, it's a lot of people, a lot of well figuratively young people were shocked this weekend when they found out the 100th anniversary of the they said 100th anniversary, that movie was only out 10 years ago.
They didn't know the Titanic actually happened.
Well, what are they being taught if they don't know that the Titanic actually happened?
To them the Titanic was was Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslit.
And I frankly don't even remember the story between the two, so I can't I can't go.
But then you've got you have Obama partying in the White House like crazy with with these state dinners and they're being crashed by people that are getting past the secrets.
Why didn't he roll when that happened?
How many times have people crashed White House events now?
Is it at least two?
And now we've we've learned, and then and no less than Patrick Kennedy, is it Patrick Kennedy or is it?
Oh one one of the Kennedy kids, oh yeah, you d access to the White House, you gotta buy it.
Big donors, lobbyists, that's who gets in there.
That's why 31 guests at the last state dinner, which was for the Canadian Prime Minister, I believe, were big donors and lobbyists.
And Clinton started that ball rolling, selling access with the White House coffees.
You have the General Services Administration people making videos of how they are spending taxpayer dollars and getting away with it.
And apparently they're not concerned that they're going to get caught and punished.
They're making videos about it.
They're planning one-hour trips or well, trips to Las Vegas for the business requires one hour of their time, but it's a five-day trip.
Here you have Michelle Obama taking her own Boeing 757 with the kids and the mother and the mother-in-law and the whoever else to Martha's Vineyard four hours before her pre her husband, the president takes Air Force One, the 747 to Martha's Vineyard from Washington, from Washington to Martha's Vineyard.
A 757 goes, and four hours later, the president goes on his own plane.
And the and the first lady is vacationing like crazy.
In fact, Obama even said that one of the reasons he was in Colombia was to scout out vacations for Michelle.
Can we go grab audio of some bike number one?
Did you not hear this?
this?
This is uh Saturday morning in Cartagena at the CEO Summit of the Americas, and uh this is uh the portion of Obama's opening remarks.
I want to thank uh President Santos uh and the people of Columbia for the extraordinary hospitality uh in the beautiful city of Cartagena.
We're having a wonderful time, and and usually when uh I take these summit trips, part of my job is to scout out where uh I may want to bring Michelle back uh later for vacation.
You don't have to take her.
She'll go on her own, and we will pay for it.
What is this scout out vocation vacation locations?
She'll find them on her own.
Spain.
Can Costa Rica be far behind?
That's pretty hip now.
That's uh Costa Rica's a hip place to go.
Let's go back.
Last Thursday night, St. Louis, KMOV TV, IBO News for St. Louis, the anchor Larry Connors interviewing Obama during a discussion about the economy, this exchange occurred.
Unemployment, trying to make ends meet, gas prices, food prices going up.
Some of our viewers are complaining they get frustrated, even angered when they see the first family jetting around different vacations and so forth.
Sometimes maybe they think under color of state business, and that you're out of touch that you don't really know what they're experiencing right now.
I don't know uh how many viewers you're you're talking about that say that.
We do hear from some.
Yeah, I well, I've I hear from all kinds of viewers about uh about everything.
Yeah.
Uh but uh the the fact of the matter is I think if you look at my track record, I'm raising a family here.
When we travel, we got to travel through Secret Service and Air Force One.
That's not my choice.
I think most folks understand how hard I work and how hard this administration's working on behalf of the American people.
Yeah.
Okay, so vacation is a big deal with these people.
And here he is making excuses.
By the way, Hillary's snipper fire was in Bosnia, was not Afghanistan.
She had a corkscrew land in Bosnia.
It uh it it it was not Afghanistan.
I want to be as correct as I can uh as I can be.
Um so d does this that answer that explain Michelle in Spain with the entourage of the trips to Paris with the girls, does the that answer how hard they're all working?
And anyway, look, I don't want to get off the beaten path.
This this Secret Service business, in a way, it's understandable.
In a way, I I I know that a lot of Americans think that there are certain institutions that are just simply incorruptible.
They think the Supreme Court is one.
Congress used to be one, but but uh the White House, Americans have this view.
What everything's been corrupted now.
And if you get serious for a moment, this even if it was hookers, if there's something else that was going on that nobody wants to talk about, what are these you know there's always the possibility of blackmail?
With the hookers getting information, these people are on the ground before the president arrives.
They're having a pre-arrival party.
And suppose the hookers give them some drugs or loosen them up with liquor, get some information on the president's arrival security, who knows.
Now, when Clinton, I should point out, when Bill Clinton was uh cavorting with Monica Lewinsky, remember what was said?
It's just sex.
It's nobody's business.
It didn't get in the way of him doing his job.
He was just as good a leader as he was before and after that.
Doesn't matter.
And when people what about the possibility for blackmail here?
What if Lewinsky had turned out to be a foreign agent or whatever, and it doesn't matter.
It was just sex.
Now people are starting to talk about the possibility of blackmail with the hookers in uh in Cartagena.
They get the that's the point.
They get trained, but look what uh what when you have people who get past the Secret Service at the White House and heads don't roll, there were it turns out everybody laughs about it because of these party animals that were the crashers, isn't it?
Tall blonde and her and her husband uh whatever.
And but there have been a couple of I think there was one other instance.
But when heads don't roll, when there's no accountability, when nobody gets in trouble for It.
Uh what's the message that's sent?
Now I and there are some people, and you probably have been thinking this yourself.
What do you mean, prostitute?
There's more going on here with these guys being sent home than prostitutes.
They found something else out about them or whatever.
The Russian spy Anna Chapman, who was just sent home because it was theorized, it was it was thought that she was having an intimate relationship with a ranking member of Obama's cabinet.
Now, sex has always been, as you know, I mean it's there's nothing new about sex scandals at all.
But and I'm sure this is not the first time a Secret Service agent has had a little, you know, in and out with a prostitute somewhere along the line, but this many of them are getting caught over 47 dollars in an argument in the hall over 47 bucks.
And who knows, the argument might have been about contraception.
Given that it's in the news.
Who knows?
But it's a sad thing.
I more and more of the institutions that everybody really wants to have complete faith and and trust in seem to be as corrupted as anything in your local community has been.
Let me take a brief time out because, folks, the Hillary Rosen story hasn't gone away thanks to Bill Maher.
You heard what Bill Marr said about Hillary Rose on his show Friday night?
Now look at what Hillary Rosen should have said was that she just she's never had to get her ass out of the house.
And so now that became subject matter on the Sunday show.
But there are other people have weighed in on uh on this.
It's fascinating too.
So we've got a lot to do here today.
You just sit tight and we'll get to as much of it as we can squeeze in here.
By the way, Barbara Boxer did not get the memo about the war on women being over.
She wrote an editorial for the politico over the weekend entitled Foul Play War on Women is Real.
And in her editorial, Barbara Don't Call Me Madam.
Call me Senator.
Remember that?
I am Senator Boxer.
Don't call me madam.
In her op-ed, Boxer claimed that the Republicans have been relentlessly trying to restrict women's reproductive health care.
By which Boxer means murdering women before they're born.
Sounds like a war on women to me.
That's what the real war on women is, is abortion, by the way.
But if you just want to speak bluntly, if you want to speak openly, the real war on women is abortion.
And we know of the two political parties which one really gets behind that and has made it a political issue.
Do we not?
We most definitely do.
Let's go to the audio sound bites.
We're going to start here, F. Chuck Todd.
F. Chuck must have been a vacation last week.
We would have had some F. Chuck sound bites last week, and we didn't, but he guesses he's back.
So meet the press Sunday during the round table, David Gregory hosting and they're and they're talking about about Romney and uh remarks attacking Ann Romney.
And Gregory said, I talked to people within the Romney campaign.
Hey, there's a tangible bit of damage here in a gender gap.
They found one thing, and boy, did they move to essentially manufacture a controversy because this is not an Obama surrogate.
This is a paid CNN commentator, all of those things.
But they were pretty effective at using them.
We know the echo chamber that's out there.
So here's another one.
This woman was paid 120,000 by the DNC.
Hillary Rosen is tied to the White House in multiple ways.
And here comes F. Chuck at NBC News.
What is this?
She's a paid CNN commentator.
She works at CNN.
Just like that Axelrod.
Axelrod last week's.
Well, yeah, she worked for you, John, John King.
She don't work for us.
She works for you at um at CNN.
This is why we call these people stenographers.
State-controlled media.
Not only does F. Chuck repeat Axelrod's absurd assertion that Hillary Rosen is a CNN employee, but then he asserts that the Romney campaign manufactured the Rosen controversy.
By the way, you ought to see all the uh blog posts on the left.
Can we get rid of this phony outrage, they're asking?
Can we stop this?
See, it was fine to manufacture phony outrage during Sandra Fluck.
And it was fine to keep that going for three weeks.
But this, there's no point here.
This is ridiculous.
Aren't we aren't we just outraged out?
Can we just get rid of the outrage?
Here was here's Bill Maher.
Snurdley was unaware of this.
Friday night on the on Mars program on HBO.
What she meant to say, I think, was that Anne Romney has never gotten her ass out of the house to work.
No one's denying that being a mother is a tough job.
I remember I was a handful.
Okay.
But you know, there is a big difference between being a mother in that tough job and getting your ass out the door at 7 a.m. when it's cold, having to deal with a boss, being in a workplace, or even if you're unhappy you can't show it for eight hours.
That is kind of a different kind of tough thing.
How's he how's he know that Anne Romney hasn't experienced that in her life?
Anyway, that's that's not the question.
Uh Marr has kept it alive.
Do you know what the real threat to stay at home moms is to leftists?
You know what the real threat they are?
They don't need government.
They are the essence of individuality.
Stay at home moms are the essence of rugged individualism, and they don't need the state.
They're not soccer moms, and that's why they are a threat.
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Bill Marr says that what Hillary Rosen really meant to say was that Ann Romney has never had to get out of the house at seven o'clock in the morning in order to get the day started.
She had to get the kids out of their house, but she didn't have to put up with anybody.
She didn't have any dire economic circumstances that she had to deal with.
William Jacobson has a blog called A Legal Insurrection.
And he had a really good post on this subject.
And it's not that long.
So allow me to read it to you.
Put aside for the moment the snotty and snide aspect of Hillary Rosen's comment that Anne Romney never worked a day in her life.
Put aside for the moment the psychological need of liberal female pundits to belittle a woman who chose a different path in life.
While the person whom they belittle has no commensurate need to belittle the life choice of the liberal female pundits.
For example, all these leftists are running around ripping into Anne Romney.
She doesn't rip into them for their life choices.
She doesn't raise questions about choices they've made, but they are out there doing it about her constantly and about all the rest of us constantly as well.
And put aside, Mr. Jacobson notes for the moment, that the liberal female pundits belittling Anne Romney for having lived in an economically privileged position, also live an economically privileged life.
In the case of Hilary Rosen, she was the chief lobbyist for the recording industry association of America.
She was the represented all record labels in Washington.
She was the music version of Jack Valenti, who represented Hollywood that way, and those people are not paid jump change.
Hilary Rosen doesn't have economic challenges with her two adopted little girls.
And neither does Koki Roberts, and neither does Soledad O'Brien.
Did you hear what Ail said about Solar Dead O'Brien?
He said, See, that's a woman named after a prison.
Is that not great?
Somebody asked me about Solod O'Brien.
You mean the one named after a prison?
Anyway, all of these leftist liberal babes on TV and in the news, they too, like Ann Romney, they don't have economic challenges to deal with.
They've all got nannies.
They probably have drivers getting them to and from work.
If not, they're driving fine automobiles on their own.
Put aside for the moment, Mr. Jacobson says, all of the irony and hypocrisy, on what logical basis do these leftist pundits assert that only a woman who has struggled economically in life is qualified to speak about economic issues affecting women, and that's a great question.
I remember, folks, I have been told over the years, as have many conservatives, hey, when you have a chance back in the 60s, you didn't sign up and go over to Vietnam, start shooting communities.
So what you don't have any right talk about the defense buddy.
You weren't there.
The left tries this all the time.
If you don't have certain life experiences, you are not allowed.
It's not qualified.
You are not permitted.
And Ann Romney, not permitted to talk about economic issues with her husband, not permitted to be an advisor, because she hasn't lived these tough economic circumstances.
Well, on what basis does that make sense?
It doesn't.
And Jacobson concludes by saying, let's let's not put aside the ironies and hypocrisy.
If a life of economic struggle is a prerequisite for a woman to speak about economic issues affecting women, then aren't many, if not most of the liberal female pundits belittling Ann Romney disqualified from the discussion too?
Darn right they are.
Pick your favorite female pundit on television.
Or in print and ask yourself, are they really worried about the price of milk?
Are they worried about baby formula?
They worried about the cost of an abortion.
They worried about the cost of conception.
A couple college kids maybe.
So they don't have this rigorous life either.
Just like Anne Romney has it in their mind.
But somehow they are qualified to talk about women's issues, and Ann Romney isn't.
UK Daily Mail.
This story ran um, I have found it yesterday.
It's from the 3rd of April.
So it's about two weeks old.
The headline before I give you the headline here, can I remind you of Undeniable Truth of Life number 24?
This one, uh, the 35 Undeniable Truths of Life written by me in the 80s, 86 or 87.
I was in Sacramento, I had a weekly column at a local paper.
And one day I was under deadline and I was having writer's block.
I couldn't think of anything to write.
So I just started writing down single sentence, single thought ideas trying to spark an idea.
And after a while, I said, you know what, I got I've got a column right here.
Every one of these things is undeniably true.
So I kept going until I got the 750 words, and that was about 35 undeniable truths.
And number 24.
One of the most controversial undeniable truths of life.
Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of American life.
Well, you can imagine why that's controversial.
It may be even controversial to you now if you're hearing it for the first time.
Regular listeners of this program who've been with us here for decades and years have heard it over and over again and understand it.
But if you're new to the program just hearing about it, I can imagine you think that's somewhat controversial.
Until you stop to think about it.
And of course, remember it was written back in 1987, which was just 18 or so years from the birth of the modern era of feminism, which I traced to 1969 or 70, the modern era.
Not the suffragette gang and all, but the modern era can be traced to 19, the late 60s, 1970.
It was then that if you opened a car door for a woman, it was bad move.
Can do it myself, thank you.
To comment favorably on a woman's appearance was a bad move because it was uh objectifying the woman and denying her mental acuity.
So far, it was it was these were touchy times.
It was touch and go with virtually everything one said or did with a woman back then, especially the young women who were all caught up in this, who believed it like it was the new Bible.
It was tough going.
And so at the time, 1987, feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to them.
If you go back to those days and look at the leaders, you'll see what inspired.
I know it's controversial, but truth often is.
So will you keep that in mind?
A story here from the UK Daily Mail about two weeks ago.
Do girls only want a career because they can't attract a man?
Provocative study casts high flyers in a new light.
Forget ambition, financial security, and that first-class degree.
Controversial studies concluded the real reason women pursue careers is because they fear they're too unattractive to get married.
We'll get to the pretty ones and just said that's not who this is about.
This story, that's that's the whole point, Dawn.
This story's not about the quote unquote pretty ones.
Oh, look at see, Dawn has heard this.
She'd been here for years, and even she's getting mad now.
It can't avoid I this is it it's one of those things.
It's a real risk to bring this stuff up.
Because people have knee-jerk emotional reactions to it.
They don't want to think about this.
Uh, you know, everybody's primed to be offended every day, looking for reasons to be.
Doesn't take much to offend anybody these days.
But I didn't write the story, and I didn't do the study.
The uh uh author of the story is a woman, Fiona McRae.
Yeah, that Fiona McCray.
The Fiona McRae, exactly right.
A controversial study has concluded that the real reason women pursue careers is because they fear that they are too unattractive to get married.
So, are we to conclude then that the job market is the place unattractive women go to access men?
A lot of I mean, have you ever back in the uh in your young teenage, early 20s, 30s, when everybody wants to meet Mr. and Ms. Wright, there were books written about how to do it.
The sensual woman, uh Sensuous Woman, about all kinds of books about it.
The best advice I ever got on where to meet a woman was go out and buy all the magazines that women are reading about where to meet men, find out where you're supposed to be, and go there.
And uh it wasn't museums, and it it wasn't uh it wasn't it was it was work, uh it was bars, it was in social places.
So uh a controversial studies concluded the real reason women pursue careers, because they fear they're too unattractive to get married.
So we we might conclude here that the job market is the place unattractive women or women who think they're unattractive.
This is the key, too.
I mean, who's to define unattractive?
Potter Stewart, when asked to define pornographs, well, I don't I I can't, but I know it when I see it.
The same thing here.
But the key here is not what everybody else thinks, but what the particular woman thinks.
If she thinks she's unattractive, this this study says she's gonna go find a career.
So the job market is the place, according to the study that unattractive women, or women who think they're unattractive, go to access men.
Is this the real reason liberal women insist on working?
I'm just asking questions based on the study.
I didn't do any of this.
I'm just reacting to it as America's real anchor man.
The research team made up of three women and two men said that when men are thin on the ground, women are more likely to choose briefcase over baby.
Thin on the ground, not merely many of them.
Not not physique, but there's just not very many of them.
So the women are more likely to choose briefcase over baby at that point.
The plainer a woman is, they claim, the more she is driven to succeed in the workplace.
I I give you undeniable truth of life number 24 here, folks.
I mean, I people often ask me, does it ever get boring being right?
And I always say no.
It's like when I play golf with a golfer, does it ever get boring hitting it straight right where you intend to everything?
Nope.
It's the most fun thing in the world.
Well, that's the same thing about being right.
You never get tired of it.
You just don't.
By the way, this story from the UK Daily Mail is a survey of American women.
I should have pointed that out.
And central to the argument of the authors is the idea that women have evolved to become homemakers and men providers.
That that that evolved, and that's central to the argument, and that's the baseline from which everything else is judged and measured, if you will.
They said that this means that when men are scarce in a particular area, women and particularly less attractive ladies may decide they need to provide for themselves with a well-paid career.
And they're out there.
The researchers carried out several experiments to come up with their startling argument.
The first looked at the number of eligible men in an area, which they call the operational sex ratio.
After collecting data from across the United States, they found that as the number of eligible men in a state decreased, the proportion of women in highly paid careers rose.
In addition, the women who became mothers in those states did so at an older age and had fewer children.
The final experiment tested a researcher's suspicion that less attractive women would be more interested in careers because they might find it difficult to secure a partner.
The 87 young women in the test were given mocked-up newspaper articles describing the sex ratio at nearby university campaign, and were asked about their views on family and career.
They were also asked how attractive they believed themselves to be to men.
And those women who saw themselves as being less desirable than average were highly likely to be career-oriented.
So this is a scientific study that took place.
And I just, you know, I I just asked you to remember undeniable truth of life number 24, which was written in 1987.
That's 25 years ago.
Well, I don't know if it's ever going to be a consensus.
I I this kind of stuff is always going to be so controversial.
You're just not supposed to talk about this kind of stuff.
These guys go out and they do the research.
If three women and two men did this research.
I'll tell you, this Ann Romney business, this Jacobson at legal insurrection, really good point.
What?
Who says that Ann Romney or any woman has no right to talk about matters of economics if they haven't lived a very hard life?
Well, who says?
Do you realize Abraham Lincoln never owned slaves?
That means we need to cancel the Civil War, go back to the way it was, and start again, right?
He had no business.
Lincoln had no business dealing with slavery.
He didn't know what he was talking about.
He didn't own slaves.
That's the same argument that they're advancing about Ann Romney.
Or me or anybody else.
And notice it's this censorship always comes from the left.
It's always people on the left who are telling other people what they can and can't say.
What they're qualified or unqualified to uh to talk about.
So, and it's it's these leftist liberal pundits who are making a claim at Ann Romney and Bill Maher, but I repeat myself.
Who claim that Anne Romney's not qualified because life's been easy for her?
Cancer MS. Five kids.
Yeah, it's been easy.
Yeah, it's been easy.
She doesn't know what she's talking about.
Well, Lincoln didn't own slaves.
So I guess Lincoln should not have been allowed to weigh in on slavery.
I'd say these these people, these people on the left, folks, there's I don't know any redeeming qualities.
I don't know, there's not one aspect of these people I want to emulate.
And uh and go, well, what's Obama's qualification?
Talk about anything other than agitating people.
What else has he done in his life but agitate?
Yeah, we let him be a health care expert.
Where does this come from?
For what it matters, Barney Frank has told New York Magazine in an uncoming article, upcoming article that uh he told Obama to back off health care reform.
He says, Stop it.
This after the Democrats lost 60 seats in the House.
Obama, according to Barney Frank, said, Barney Frank said, get out of a stop to this, gonna hurt us.
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