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Feb. 6, 2012 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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February 6, 2012, Monday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 247 podcast.
Yes, America's Anchorman is away today, and this is your undocumented anchor man sitting in, Mark Stein.
Honored to be here.
No supporting paperwork whatsoever, but thanks to Mitt Romney, I am eligible for self-deportation.
I'm from the foreign exchange student wing of the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
It's a great program.
Guys like me get to study here, and in return the New England Patriots go on to play Pakistan in the cricket world cup.
So it all works out.
Russia's away today, like uh six per cent of Americans.
He uh he mysteriously uh is absent from work the day after the Super Bowl, but he will be here tomorrow, your Tuesday morning quarterback to explain everything that happened last night.
Because you don't want a foreigner trying to analyze American sports for you.
I mean, I enjoyed the game until uh Madonna came on in the seventh inning stretch, and then the whole thing went to pieces.
But if you haven't heard if you haven't heard the New England Vulture Capitalist beat the Georgia self-proclaimed giant.
Oh no, wait, that was Saturday night.
I'm here live in far northern New Hampshire at Ice Station EIB, but Mr. Snerdley is in New York City, keeping me on the straight and narrow.
So he's he's he's very I nearly came on uh and said that the uh the Super Bowl is obviously the big football game, and then Mr. Snerdley caught me in my headphones and explained to me that in fact it's a basketball game.
So uh he's here to keep me uh from making a fool of myself on the issue of American sports before the great listening public.
We will talk about we will talk about some of yeah.
Uh the half time business.
Uh the the did you see that ad?
Mayor Manino of Boston with uh Mayor Bloomberg of New York.
The supernannies, the two great super nannies, uh sitting there doing a gun control ad because like Super Bowl fans, that's a real gun control demographic that you want to hit.
So they did a pitch for d gun control uh sitting there in their respective team uh jerseys.
It always looks good.
They had their mayoral suit and tie underneath uh the uh football jerseys.
That's always a good look.
We'll talk about that.
Uh Madonna uh d somebody apparent was it what's this rapper's name?
Um I A M I A who is a lady rapper, a rapper of the a rapet, a rapet of the Distaff Persuasion, and she said she apparently gave America the finger.
Did you see did you see this, Mr. Snerdley?
She apparently gave America the finger during the uh during You Mr. Snerdley had already given the halftime show the finger by that stage, but apparently during the during the song Give Me All Your Lovin', uh the rapet MIA not only gave us all her love in, but she also gave America the finger.
There was Clint Eastwood turned up.
Clint, he's look he looks fabulous these days.
He's like a hundred and twelve years old, but he just looks great.
The more grizzled uh he gets uh the the better he looks.
But he was there doing this ad for Chrysler, uh called It's Half Time in America.
He's what he comes on, it's like this bleak post industrial wasteland, and then you see Clint sort of loping in the shadows, and then he growls, It's half time in America.
He means everything's gone to hell.
Uh we're in uh the the we we we've been kiboshed, we've been clobbered.
But but as Clint says, this country can't be knocked out with one punch.
We get right back up again, and when we do, the world is going to hear the roar of our engines.
Yes, it's half time in America, and our second half is about to begin, and then the uh logos of Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge and Ram and the various other marks of the uh automobile company.
What what's the present state of that Chrysler Company?
Is it half owned by half uh I thought it was half owned by Fiat and half owned by the United States government or uh and the unions.
Yeah, so it's half it's what is it?
As Ron Paul would say, it's Federal Fiat.
Uh Federal Fiat owned Chrysler.
Uh so that's the model.
That's the model that Clint says is going to kick things off uh for the great second half of America coming uh coming up.
Uh lots of other big news.
It's February the sixth today, by the way.
Sixty years ago, Princess Elizabeth became Queen Elizabeth II.
She was in colonial Kenya at the time she uh uh acceded to the throne.
Uh she was out at Tree Tops in colonial Kenya, uh visiting Mrs. Obama in the maternity ward.
No, no, I'm just kidding.
Uh Harry S. Truman was uh president of the United States at the time, and the Queen is still going strong in the age of Obama.
Uh Obama himself, President Obama, he was on the Today Show today, and he said I'm getting better as time goes on.
Uh and he says uh uh what's frustrated people is that I've not been able to implement every aspect of what I said in 2008.
Well, it turns out our founders designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change than I would like sometimes.
Listen to this, by the way.
Uh this is Barack Obama.
Our founders designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change than I would like sometimes.
Yes, that pesky US constitution.
We really ought to do something about that.
Uh but but but Obama says not to worry.
One of the things about being president is you get better as time goes on.
So by the time he's been in office sixty years like uh Her Majesty the Queen, he'll he'll be uh he'll be pretty much on top of the job.
We've been able to get a lot done, not as fast as we want.
Sometimes it's messy.
The process is frustrating.
That's the key Obama word.
He's uh he's always frustrated by these by his inability uh to impose as much change on the nation as he would like, because those pesky founding fathers uh designed a system that makes it difficult for a change maker like Obama to bring about as much change as as uh as we would like.
Um and uh lots of other f breaking foreign news, really.
The uh United States is pulling all its diplomats out of Syria.
Uh the Syrian Embassy is being closed and all the diplomats are getting out of there.
Obama says headline from the Associated Press, Obama, Syria can be solved without military action.
Uh tell it to Basher Assad, who since the Russians and Chinese obligingly vetoed any UN action on uh Syria, uh now thinks he's got carte blanche, has been killing people, slaughtering huge numbers of people in the town of Homs.
The Greeks are inching closer to default.
Could uh could happen this week.
The uh the Squid War.
The Squid War in the Falkland Islands between Argentina and Britain, between huge supplies of rich halls of squid uh is uh the squid dispute is hotting up.
Uh the squid are spawned along the Argentine coast and then move off into British waters off the Falklands.
And uh and uh the uh President of Argentina is furious that basically the Falklands are taking all these uh the squid.
The squid m the entire squid market uh is being uh the Argentine squid market is being annexed by uh Britain in the Falkland Islands.
Here's a headline for the Times.
This is from uh this is from the Associated Press too.
China, quote, China says it does not intend to buy Europe, unquote.
There we are.
Amazing.
If you were wondering, China says uh it does not intend to buy Europe.
That's the uh that's the headline of the day, uh courtesy of the Associated Press.
Uh and uh Mr. Snerdley adds the word yet.
They're not gonna buy China China says it does not intend to buy Europe this year, uh, but you know, they'll review the situation.
Yeah, yeah.
Uh basically.
As soon as America uh has repaid what uh uh you know the next stage of uh the multi-trillion dollar debt, they may consider buying Europe.
They're just gonna buy they may just buy part of Europe.
They may they may start by buying Western Europe.
They don't need to buy Central and Eastern Europe just yet.
They may just become minority stakeholders and buy forty percent of it.
But uh China says it does not intend to buy Europe yet.
By the way, this is uh interesting to me because it's uh it's a good example of how fast the world moves.
Can you imagine how ridiculous that headline would have seemed uh to anybody from thirty years ago, uh when the when the whole opening up of China started.
Uh so you go back to say the dawn of the Reagan era in uh in nineteen eighty one, January nineteen eighty-one, and you imagine how bewildering that headline would have seemed.
Uh instead instead, China is in effect bailing out Europe.
It's uh pledged its cooperation in helping Europe fight its debt crisis with uh in in a meeting between Wen Zhao Bao, the Premier of China, and Ankala Merkel, the German Chancellor.
And he the the Chinese are saying, don't worry, we're just being good neighbors and helping out Europe fight its debt crisis.
We not we've got no intention whatsoever of actually buying Europe and ending up owning Europe.
By the by the way, uh you ought to worry very much about Europe actually solving its debt crisis, because right now, just about the only thing holding the United States up is that Europe is worse.
Uh because of the European debt crisis, uh the dollar is being propped up uh by the so-called safe haven money, because if if the choice is the euro and the dollar, uh the the uh the the money goes to the euro uh the money goes to the dollar because that's regarded as safer.
Instead, if they were to solve their uh their so-called debt crisis, the dollar would weaken, interest rates would go up, and the cost of servicing US debt would balloon.
So you i it it's in the it's in the interest of the United States uh for the European debt crisis to stagger on, slowly dragging down one European nation after another.
Uh but uh I don't know about uh what uh President Obama's view on that is.
He's pr he's preoccupied with Syria at the moment, and uh Hillary Clinton is for some reason is in I think she's in Bulgaria and is uh and is threatening uh to reign all kinds of doom and gloom down on Bashar Assad, who seems to be laughing it off.
Uh and as well he might, because Hillary Clinton only a year ago was hailing Bashar Assad as a reformer.
And the lesson this is at the time that the United States was trying to push Mubarak out of office, and the lesson of this, of course, is that uh if if you listen to uh the uh United States and you step down peacefully like Hosni Mubarak, you wind up like he is in in jail right now and on trial and perhaps pay facing a death penalty.
And uh the the lesson that that uh taught uh Bashar Assad uh up the road in Syria is that you're better off just killing large numbers of people because uh and and not paying any attention to what uh Hillary Clinton and the State Department tell you.
So we'll talk about that uh uh as uh the show goes on today.
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Is it all over in the Republican primary?
Uh Mitt won big in Nevada, something like uh fifty-five per cent of the vote.
Uh over fifty per cent of the vote, and uh with Newt way behind at twenty-one per cent.
Ron Paul at nineteen per cent.
That's the real shocker, by the way.
Ron Paul spent very big in uh in Nevada and doesn't really have uh uh much to show for it.
We'll also get into the Ron Paul scandal.
He apparently was he's be he was he was double billing for some airplane flights, whether accidentally or not we we don't know, but uh it's the big scandal that Congress has discovered uh that uh that that Congress reimbursed Ron Paul for some flights that other people had already reimbursed him for.
So we'll investigate the big Ron Paul scandal.
But is the uh Republican primary now all but over?
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Uh is Obama getting better at his job as time goes on, or is he like uh the Queen?
He's uh he's gonna be right on top of it in about six decades time.
Uh by the time he how many terms would that be?
Four and two that'll be in the middle of his fifteenth term, he'll be he'll be really powering along at it.
Uh Obama, I'm getting better as time goes on.
That's what he told the Today Show this morning.
1 eight hundred two eighty two-2882 post-Super Bowl Sunday, Mark Stein, in for rush.
Mark Stein in for Rush on the EIB network.
You know, my favorite news story of the day is the return to life of the of the famous Zulu singer.
Uh Umgukemani.
Umgukemani.
I apologize to any Zulus out there if I've uh I've mispronounced it.
Uh but the but the uh singer, the traditional Zulu folk singer, Umgukumani, uh supposedly died in two thousand and nine after drinking something he got from a traditional healer.
And he he died in his brother's arms and he was buried by his family in the Quag Zoganyawo cemetery early in 2001.
And he turned up a couple of days ago at his wife's house and said that, in fact, he hadn't died.
And he said, quote, he had been I was kept with zombies.
He was kept in a cave with zombies and forced to eat mud and sing to the zombies 24 hours a day.
This is from the I believe the Sunday Times in Johannesburg, which is a very respectable newspaper.
I've appeared in it myself several times.
But the the Zulu singer, Mgukamani, his wife and now he's come back from the dead after being kept in a cave with zombies and forced to sing for them 24 hours a day.
His wife says, yes, it is him.
But his brother is denying it is him.
And KwaZulu-Natal police have now taken him into custody and are performing DNA tests on him to determine whether, in fact, it is the real Mgukamani.
and uh who was supposedly buried in the Quag Zogbanyawo cemetery in early 2010.
So it's a big in South Africa the breaking news out of South Africa it's a big Zulu versus zombie showdown.
That beats that's gotta beat the Patriots versus Giants.
I mean Zulus versus zombies that is something that's now you that's the big that's the real big Super Bowl it's not just a cable series it ought to be a cable channel.
Zulus versus zombies.
That's what it'll come down to, by the way, in the end, once the debt crisis really explodes and the planet collapses.
It's going to be Zulus versus zombies.
So pick your side now because that's how it's all going to end up.
But anyway, this.
That's right.
And by the way, during that halftime show, this poor guy, this Zulu folk singer, he's been kidnapped by zombies and forced to live in a cave singing to the zombies 24-7 halfway through.
through that uh Super Bowl halftime show with Madonna and MIA I would have loved it if a bunch of zombies had kidnapped them and taken them off to a cave and uh made them sing to them twenty-four hours a day.
Although I don't think the zombies could have took it I don't think the zombies could have taken MIA flipping flipping the finger at them all that time.
The zombies don't like that kind of stuff.
Anyway, if we get a result from the DNA test being performed on this Zulu singer, Back From the Dead, we will, of course, bring that to you.
Also speaking Back From the Dead, Nancy Pelosi.
The 2010 election made no difference.
She's still around and looks like she's had some work done because she's looking better than she did six months ago.
I wonder if she discreetly went in for a bit of a tune-up because she's looking pretty good.
uh Nancy Pelosi uh has said now that she is vowing to stand with Barack Obama against the Catholic Church.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi vowed today that she will join with the Obama administration in standing up against the Catholic Church in defending a new regulation that will require Catholic individuals to buy and Catholic institutions to provide health insurance plans that cover sterilizations and artificial contraceptions including those that induce abortions.
Basically Catholic institutions are going to be turned into a giant condom dispenser for the Obama administration even though the Catholic Church teaches that sterilization, artificial contraception and abortion are morally wrong, and the Catholic bishops of the United States have argued that forcing a Catholic individual to purchase a health insurance plan that covers these things is forcing them to act against their conscience.
Nancy Pelosi is on board with it.
Nancy Pelosi says quote first of all I'm going to stick with my fellow Catholics in supporting the administration on this.
I think it was a very courageous decision that they made and I support it unquote There's no backing down from the administration on this business of of uh contraception and they figure out if and I then they may not necessarily be wrong on this.
The the response by the Catholic bishops who are mostly agree with the Obama administration on everything except contraception and abortion is not actually terribly encouraging.
The Obama administration, Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats figure uh that they can win this one.
And that and that's the point.
Uh it's it's uh the stage that comes after the separation of church and state is the state as church, where in effect the state imposes its secularist orthodoxy and delegitimizes any other sources of moral authority in the United States.
And the Obama administration figures it can win that one, uh, and that's why Nancy Pelosi says she supports forcing Catholics to buy contract.
Hey, great to be with you.
Rush returns tomorrow, your Tuesday morning quarterback.
He will fill you in on his take on the Super Bowl.
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Nancy Pelosi supports the administration's uh position on contraceptives.
For some reason I find myself thinking of uh Russia's uh what's that the little thing that Rush has with Nancy Pelosi demonstrating how to put on the con apply the condom uh just a super glue the condom to the cucumber.
I always like the latex I always like the latex uh the the stretched latex noises in uh in that little uh in that little parody there.
Uh Nancy Pelosi, anyway, it's true.
Nancy Pelosi is forcing you uh forcing Catha is happy to force Catholic institutions to basically supply free condoms.
And the the point of this, the point of this, by the way, is that big government makes everything else smaller.
Big government makes everything else smaller.
Um and many uh Western nations are already much further along uh uh down that path.
In Sweden, for example, they passed a constitutional amendment making it uh illegal to uh enter any moral objections to homosexuality.
So if a if a preacher in a church pulpit uh r reads from the more robust passages of Leviticus, he's liable for four years in jail.
Um in uh in Canada, courts have ruled that Catholic schools have to allow some gay student to take his same-sex state to the prom.
The point of the point of all this is that uh big government uh eventually becomes the a kind of national church in and of itself, and it is interested in imposing it's increasingly intolerant of dissent, it punishes apostates, uh, and it insists on uh a one size fits all uh moral philosophy for for the entire nation.
And it doesn't affect, by the way, it doesn't just affect uh public institutions.
In this case, this is uh Kathleen Sabelius, the Health and Human Services Commissar.
It's not just Commissar Sabelius uh forcing uh Catholic institutions to do this, uh, but you also see, for example, in the little dispute between Planned Parenthood and the Susan G. Coman Breast Cancer Foundation.
The same thing.
Uh the Susan G. Coman Foundation tried to wander off the uh the abortion reservation, and basically Planned Parenthood beat them down and clubbed them into submission until they uh recanted uh uh about it.
It's about it's about uh not permitting dissent from the state religion.
Nancy Pelosi went to see the Pope uh a couple of years ago.
Nancy Pelosi is supposedly a Catholic.
That's why she says she stands she stands with her fellow Catholics uh in supporting uh the Obama administration on this.
And Nancy Pelosi went to see the Pope a couple of years ago in Rome, and interestingly, the Pope did not receive her as a fellow Catholic.
He was the the Vatican was very careful to make plain that he was only receiving Nancy Pelosi uh in her official government capacity as second in line to the President of the United States.
In other words, after the uh vice president, the speaker is the next in line to succeed.
Uh and uh the uh and the the Vatican was at pains to emphasize that uh they were not uh granting an audience on the basis that Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic, but only on the basis of the office which Nancy Pelosi holds.
So we'll talk about that.
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Hey, let's go to Vinny in Manhattan.
Vinny, it's great to have you on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Hey Vinny, did you see your mayor, Nanny Bloomberg, doing his big thing on uh on the Super Bowl last night.
Yeah, I missed uh I missed that commercial unfortunately, and uh he sh certainly is our nanny he got that right.
Well he last time I uh last time I spoke to you Mark uh uh Mitt Romney had just uh had just won New Hampshire and uh everyone was wondering why Newt was uh was still in the game.
Um I'm here to tell you no it's not time for him to go, nor should he and uh I think Newt had one of the greatest lines in the debate that I've ever heard and that's that the American people don't want to send someone to Washington to manage the decay.
And quite frankly a lot of us out here think that that's exactly what Mitt Romney would do.
He would manage the decay.
He would go along to get along and if anything, Newt can at least drag Mitt Romney kicking and screaming to the right, although I don't think that's going to help in the long run when it comes to things like Obamacare, which he doesn't have a moral leg to stand on.
Because as as everyone knows, Obamacare okay, was modeled after Romney care.
And Rick Santorum exposed that and uh you know it was probably one of the greatest dressing downs I've ever seen of a single issue regarding a candidate.
And no I think Newt's going to come away by the time Super Tuesday comes around with quite a few delegates and there's going to be quite a bit of horse trading over at the convention and um and that's how I see it.
Well you're absolutely you're absolutely right that um the danger is uh the d I mean decline is a psychological condition.
Charles Crowdhammer said this in a speech a couple of years ago and once that takes hole am among the political class uh both parties tend to think that uh that's their job uh to manage a a essentially to manage the United States into a shrunken and diminished state uh and it's easy to see why uh someone like Mitt Romney would actually be quite comfortable about that with with that.
He didn't make he didn't leave any trace in Massachusetts apart from Romney care, which is as you say nothing any conservative should be impressed by but here's the thing here's the thing Vinny you've just said that the best uh case against Romney care was made by Rick Santorum in that debate.
Why then why then is it necessary for Newt to stay in if Rick Santorum did the most effective demolition job on Romney care, uh why wouldn't it be good if like Newt pulled out and Rick Santorum was left as the principal opposition to I'll tell you quite simply uh Rick Santorum does not inspire or excite uh a lot of people perceive this is my theory by the way a lot of people perceive Santorum as almost a one issue candidate in the sense that everyone knows he's extremely extremely
pro-life which is fine but a lot nevertheless if you talk to a lot of people that's what Rick Santorum is known for.
So that that may turn off a few voters but he doesn't ex I mean I love Rick Santorum but he he doesn't excite me like Newt Gind Gingrich excites me uh or inspires me.
Um I've never seen anyone debate like Newt Gingrich and I've also never seen the American public in general react so uh vicerously one way or the other when it comes to a debate performance by any of these candidates.
And we saw that in flying let's exp let's explore that a bit though, Vinny, because uh on Saturday night after the caucus, Newt did one of his thinking outside the box type things and didn't just give a speech uh in front of a c crowd of supporters where he announced his concession and said that he'd uh uh called uh Mitt Romney and congratulated him on a victory.
That's the standard thing you do after a caucus or a primary.
Instead he g he held a press conference, and it was widely agreed that that was a big mistake for him, that instead of talking about his grand vision uh and his big ideas, he he spent the whole time uh talking about process type stuff and complaining about attack ads and moaning about all Mitt's uh money, and he came across as small and petulant and whiny.
Uh isn't that isn't so so in other words, uh didn't he actually damage himself with his press conference thing on Saturday night.
Well, I'm not going to sit here and claim that everything Newt does is right and just and smart.
It's certainly not.
As far as the attack ads are concerned, I just find it incredibly amusing how the uh Republican lead in Washington can get together uh twenty-four hours before every uh voting cycle uh happens and the the amount of hit pieces and money spent against Newt Gingrich.
And uh I directly blame Romney for this, because as you know, or maybe you don't, it was Newt that wanted to run a positive campaign from the get go, and it wasn't.
Oh no, no.
Who's Romney the who broke that piece.
Yeah, and he said and he's and he said um Newt said the other night, he said he stayed relentlessly positive in Iowa and he lost twenty-two points, and he says he's not going to make that mistake again.
But the he's making wait a minute, he he lost twenty-two points, not because he stayed positive.
That you can't say that.
He lost twenty-two points because Mitt Romney spent six point five million dollars on negative campaign ads, and that's why he lost twenty-two points.
Because everybody knows up until that point, Newt was well ahead.
Well ahead.
Yep, that's right.
And you know that too.
No, no, that's that's bangers me.
But that's the but that's the game, Vinny.
You know, that's the there's nothing new about this.
People understand that uh the negative ads work.
And and there is and the and the question here for Newt as well, apart from anything else, is organization.
Being able to determine uh I d I there's no perfect system for uh determining who should be eligible to be president of the United States.
But uh but basically in the modern era, the contours of what you need to do are been pretty clearly set.
And knowing when you need to spend advertising money, knowing when you need to have a good ground game, knowing when you need to go negative, these are all the skills it requires to stagger through from Iowa to New Hampshire to South Carolina to Florida, uh these things are known.
And Newt was not very nimble in reacting to them, and and in his present situation he was not very nimble on on Saturday night in determining if you get you've got to be disciplined.
If you're gonna hold a press conference, if you're not going to give a speech, if you're not gonna call uh Governor Romney and congratulate him, and if you're not gonna do any of the traditional stuff, you've got to be sufficiently in control uh to know uh the tone of the message you're setting.
Uh and that was not a good performance from Newton on Saturday night.
But uh he's standing there and uh you're right, you're taking the Sarah Palin view.
That it in fact there's no need to to to just uh end this thing now and uh crown Mitt Romney the nominee.
Uh it's better to uh if particularly if you're interested in conservative ideas and you don't trust Mitt Romney, it's better to have other guys in there uh tugging him uh tugging him to the right and at least uh forcing him uh onto what for conservatives is uh is is is the turf we ought to be fighting this election on.
Thank you for your call, Vinny.
We'll take more of your calls.
Straight ahead, Mark Stein in for rush on the EIB network.
Mark Stein for Rush in the uh on the EIB network, Rush returns tomorrow.
Reverend Al Sharpton supports the Nancy Pelosi line on the Obama administration, forcing the uh Catholic institutions to be condom dispensers.
Reverend Al says, I think uh you have to have the reverse argument, and that is if I want to seek employment and have employment in a church, but that I disagree with the dogma and theology of the church, do I have the right to be protected by law?
And I think that what the Obama administration is saying is that you do not have to follow the tenets of a church organization to be an employee of a church.
Unquote.
And so they're saying that uh, you know, if you you might want to work for a church organization, you yeah, you if you want to get an abortion, the church uh organization should have to pay for that.
The Catholic institution should have to pay for your contraceptives, the Catholic institutions should have to pay uh for your sterilization.
It it tends to go the uh one way, this.
If you were to have, say uh a um uh a very uptight uh uh uh fundamentalist Christian applying for a job at a gay bathhouse and uh suddenly that kind of thing doesn't uh doesn't seem to quite work uh the same way.
Let us go to Tom in Salinas, California.
Tom, you're live on the uh on uh the Rush Limbaugh.
It's great to have you with us.
Thank you very much, Mark.
You know, this whole situation with uh Catholic charities and their hospitals.
Uh you know, as long as they're getting federal dollars isn't really a a situation where whoever pays the piper calls the tune.
You know, they're accepting government money and this is the price they pay.
You know, the the Catholic bishops, they b they want it both ways.
You know, they want to have universal health care out of taxpayer dollars, and uh yet they want to be paid according to their rules.
Now, can that really be?
Well, you make a you make a good point there, and the the Catholic bishops for the most part sign on to the Obama agenda, except contraception and abortion.
They're all hot for social justice and government health care and all the rest of it.
If you have universal health care, uh if you have a government health care system, who determines the character of a government health care system?
The government does, in this case commercial.
Now when you get when when you get to the business of federal money, uh this isn't this is a uh uh a subtler point than people uh people uh think because uh the Catholic church hospitals, for example, do get money from the government, but specifically for uh as I understand it, it's for caring for the indigent.
Um and so uh they don't get money in order to provide abortions or sterilizations, it's specifically for uh caring for the indigent.
And what happens, generally speaking, is that uh as has happened in uh parts of this country and the rest of the Western world, once it becomes clear that uh uh you impose l certain rules on Catholic institutions that in order to keep getting the money uh for for doing this, they've got to do stuff in a whole bunch of other areas, and then they tend to get out of that business.
Uh they get out of the uh uh when they're told that they ha you know you can only uh offer children to for uh uh you you've got to offer children for adoption to gay couples or whatever, and that be breaks their faith, they get out of the adoption business entirely, which again suits the state, because it means the government gets bigger and alternative sources of authority uh and uh and legitimacy in society get get smaller.
But but if you're right, Tom that taking federal money, then uh you you may what you're what you're saying, Tom, is that an institution, whether it's a Catholic institution or anything else, may get five percent of its money from the federal government, but that gives the federal government the right to determine one hundred percent of everything the federal uh of that everything that institution does.
And that's why people shouldn't take it.
You know, this isn't a situation of adoption, you know, where they just give up, you know, adoptions.
I understand yesterday on the news I heard that one out of six patients is treated at a Catholic institutional hospital.
That that's that's extraordinary, don't you think?
No, it's it's not.
It's it's that reflects the uh historical reality of of the institutions in free societies uh that that that care uh that care for the poor and and in in uh when one looks at the he uh the inheritance of the United States, it would not be surprising that the Catholic Church would be a major player in that.
But this isn't just, by the way, your point, Tom, doesn't just apply to uh Catholic institutions, it applies to colleges and universities uh uh as well.
Uh one reason why I'm I'm proud to be uh affiliated with uh Hillsdale College in Michigan as uh as Rush is uh too.
Rush is uh a big supporter of Hillsdale, and Hillsdale is a unique institution in that it's the only college that refuses federal and state funding.
Because uh as Hillsdale understands, when um when when the government, whether it's a federal government or a state government gives you one percent of your revenue, they can have a veto over one hundred percent of what you do.
So it's not worth it.
Uh for serious people, it's not worth it.
It's the same thing uh that's why that's why the expansion of government is so critical to the left.
That's why the expansion of entitlements is critical to the left.
Uh That's why the expansion of uh government college tuition is uh so important to the left.
Because the if the government is paying for you to go to college, uh the government has a right to determine what it is you're exposed to in that college.
That's absolutely that's absolutely the critical distinction, Tom.
Thanks for your call.
We gotta take an EIB profit center because we are not funded by the federal government.
More in just a moment.
By the way, does Nancy Pelosi own a condom uh factory?
Because only a couple of years ago she wanted hundreds of millions of dollars in the stimulus bill uh to go to handing out uh free condoms.
I think we ought to look into that.
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