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January 12, 2012, Thursday, Hour #3
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Ha.
How are you?
Yeah, I opened the birthday card.
I said that Michelle signed it twice.
On the front, the back, well, the outside and the inside.
Is that what you wanted me to see?
Yeah.
Well, did she want to sign it twice?
Well, there was an error.
How did she screw up the first time?
What's it?
Oh, oh, oh, yeah, okay, because it's it looks the same, both places it's signed.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're asking me if I look at the birthday card.
Normally I throw birthday cards away.
Yeah, I'm reading them.
Suck up, suck up, another suck up.
I read them.
Greetings, folks, and um welcome back.
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I'm gonna stick with the sound bites because I gotta get these out of the way before we go to the phone calls.
And I'm gonna get to the phone calls all quick, however.
Uh and this is this is another not quite as yesterday when I said, Are you sitting down?
before I told you, but this is close.
Yesterday in Columbia, South Carolina at a campaign event.
This is just a portion of remarks made by Mitt Romney.
This has been a failed presidency.
I don't think he's tried to make it bad.
He just didn't know what to do.
He's over his head.
Talking about Barack Obama.
Now, some of you might not think this is really that big a deal.
Um and some of you might think that you understand.
There's no reason to provoke people by accusing Obama being a bad guy.
Conventional wisdom is, no, no, startly, don't look at me that you know it as well as I. Conventional wisdom is that if you talk that way, you're gonna send the independence running back to Obama.
Yeah, the inside the beltway conventional wisdom, the political consultant conventional wisdom, the Republican Party convention.
If it could be proved to Romney that Obama was purposely doing this, he still wouldn't say it.
This is why I people say, why don't you run for office?
I couldn't.
If if you if you have to couch what you really believe, I couldn't do it.
Because I don't believe for a minute he's in over his head.
Unless good Lord.
Oh my god.
Oh.
Oh.
No, man, I can't, and I can't even tell people what I just saw without getting into big trouble.
I just saw a picture of Hillary on TV.
That's as much as I'm gonna say.
My point is this.
Well, I had to explain the reaction.
It's not fair to react that way.
People don't know what it's I had to explain it, but that's as much as I'm gonna say.
The only construct where Obama is in over his head.
Yeah, I could I was right again.
But then I have to remind people about what I was right, and that's the problem.
I'm not gonna do that.
I'm just saying.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Ah.
Yeah.
You know where I come down this Obama bill.
I think Obama.
And Giuliani's right.
This guy's an Alinskiite.
He has been taught, he's been raised, educated, whatever.
He's got a deep resentment for this country.
You know me, I have told you.
I I'm I'm willfully naive, I guess.
I can't get my arms around the fact that there are people born in this country who hate it.
I I know they do, and I they can explain to me the differences in ideology and so forth.
I just I'm never going to intellectually or emotionally understand it.
Even though I can explain it.
It still makes no sense to me.
Yet I know that there's people exist, and I know that they are the people that taught Obama.
They are among those who educated him, both in his family and at the institutions of higher learning and academe that he attended.
I know that he thinks this is an unjust country, that it was immoral in its founding for reasons including but greater than slavery.
He thinks it was economically unjust anymore.
He thinks a bunch of rich white guys.
This 1% versus 99% stuff, that's how he thinks the country was founded, and that the 1% has maintained themselves in total control of all the wealth since the days of the founding.
And that they take purposeful steps to keep everybody out of that club.
He believes it.
He thinks the only remedy for it is to take everything the 1% has and give it away to everybody else.
Now the ulterior motives to that are entrenching his own power.
I don't think there's benevolence in this.
In other words, I don't think Obama runs around every day feeling genuinely sorry for the 99%.
I don't think he's motivated by altruism, he is motivated by anger.
He's got a chip on his shoulder.
A number of them.
But I guess when you're running for office against the guy, you can't say that.
They can say it about us.
The Democrats can say whatever they want about us, and there's never a concern from anybody that they are going to frighten away independents or any other voters.
But if if if we look at what Romney has to say, ah, he's just an incompetent boob.
You know, he's really got good motivation.
He's just trying.
He just over his head, he doesn't know what he's doing.
He's uh he just didn't know what to do.
Well, he's got three years in.
And he's so if he's supposedly this smart guy after three years of trying what he thought would work, wouldn't a smart guy who's trying to get it right try something different.
Wouldn't it be about time now to admit, hey, you know, my ideas didn't work.
Mr. Lombaugh, ego is not going to remove.
Okay, okay, understands.
But still, all I'm trying to do is construct uh evidence here, present evidence to refute this notion that Obama's in over his head and doesn't know what he's doing.
I believe he clearly does, and I don't know why we can't say it.
When they can say that, especially when it's a truth.
What's wrong with educating people?
See, this is where when I say we have a group of people who don't think the country needs to be quote unquote saved.
The people who want to accurately portray Obama, like me, the people who want others to honestly understand who Obama is and why he's doing what he's doing and why he's going to continue it.
We think the country's imperiled, and we think something needs to happen to save it, and we think Obamacare is ball game, and we think that every freedom that we take for granted is gone once the government gets that fully implemented.
It's serious.
But I'm left to wonder, does Romney look at it that he may not.
I don't know too many Republicans in the establishment who really do.
In the so-called conservative media establishment, I know there are people who think that the view that the country's in peril and that we are facing a forever transformation from which we can't come.
They don't think that.
To them, $16 trillion of national debt's no different than $5 trillion.
As long as we keep making the interest payments, we're cool.
They don't see any danger for their kids and grandkids because of this.
In fact, they want, I'm including some Republicans that they want to win the election to be in charge of the money and its spending.
Well, I see Romney are here and said this has been a failed presidency.
I don't think he's tried to make it bad.
He just didn't know what to do.
He's going over his head.
I guarantee you a pollster or a consultant has gotten to him and said, look, Obama is personally liked him.
And if you go out and accuse him of these terrible motives, you're going to lose people.
I know that's what this is.
So the reason I couldn't run for office and do politics apparently is because you're not allowed to be honest.
Not as a candidate.
You simply aren't allowed to be honest.
All right, brief time.
Up, up, no, two more sound bites.
You got to get these In Robert Kraft, who is the owner of the New England Patriots.
He was on CNBC this morning on Squawk Box.
They had a discussion about American politics.
And Mr. Kraft said this.
We have the current president of the United States.
There's no other country where a man like that could get elected under the age of 50 and single mother and follow his passion and become president of the United States.
We have the leading Republican candidate who was a great entrepreneur.
I know he called on me to invest in Bain Capital in the 80s.
It's such a good environment.
My eldest son Jonathan went and worked there, and it's been a great return on investment.
And when I see people banging on Bain, and I think the largest investors are really state and union pension funds, which are working class people, and the jobs they've created, and what a great job they've done.
And I see the vitriol going on.
It's really horrible.
And we have to put America first.
I do you hear frustration there in Mr. Kraft's voice?
His son worked at Bain.
He says, who keeps Bain afloat?
Who invests in it?
Pension funds, working people, union pension funds are investments in Bain Capital.
And he's exactly right, and it's not just Bain Capital, but a lot of pension plans, 401ks, uh state teacher and in government employee retirement programs are invested in these places.
But what what Kraft here is saying, what what are we doing?
Here we we got a guy under 50 from a single mother, his background gets elected president.
Nowhere else can that happen.
Meaning this is a great country.
Nowhere else.
My son went to work for Bain.
It's been a great return on investment.
I put some money into it.
It's been a great return on investment.
And Kraft has done a lot for Massachusetts.
He didn't ask the people of Massachusetts to build a football stadium, Gillette Stadium.
He built it.
Used his own money.
He's done a lot for redevelopment in Massachusetts.
He's done a lot for investment there, and he's put some of his money in Bain, apparently, and it's been a good return.
And he doesn't like hearing people bang on it.
And I think I think actually this is good.
I think this is opening a lot of people's eyes.
I think a lot of people who are Dide in the wool entrepreneurs are finally finding out how entrepreneurism's under salt in this country.
I think it's going to wake him up.
Make them realize it isn't just politics as usual.
The host on CNBC talking to Bob Kraft today was Joe Kiernan Kernan.
He said something happened the Broncos play the Patriots this week is Saturday night Foxboro, so Kern had a question about it.
Something happened when the Broncos lost three straight.
You saw how relaxed they were in the last game against the Steelers.
Are you taking a little more interest in this game?
They played the Patriots played the Broncos in Denver earlier in one handily.
So Kraft basically being asked here, okay, what about Saturday night?
Broncos come to town.
We're so happy to be playing a home playoff game and to be the number one seed.
We're privileged to have the best one-loss record at Gillette Stadium.
So we like people coming here at Saturday night at 8 o'clock, and we're hoping for the best.
We're also mindful how good the Denver Broncos are.
And anyone who watched that playoff game this weekend knows what an exciting team and what a great young man Tim Tebow is, and how good he is for the NFL and the Broncos and what he represents.
You know, it's not often that the opposing quarterback gets more publicity locally and nationally than our quarterback.
But it's well deserved.
He's into spirituality.
That's something that I am a big believer in, and it's great for the NFL.
Robert Kraft, the owner of the New England Patriots, phone calls from you are next.
I gotta print this out.
I just had somebody send me some uh a political theory, political philosophy as articulated by famous Reagan consultant named Arthur Finkelstein.
I mean here it is.
This is what Arthur Finkel, you remember Arthur Finkel says Arthur Finkelstein is credited with saying when you allow people voters, people can't when you allow people to choose between the corrupt and the stupid, they will go for the corrupt.
So maybe Romney thinks that they're going to cast him as corrupt so he can beat the stupid.
Maybe he's trying to cast Obama as stupid rather than corrupt.
Because this Reagan consultant, people will choose corrupt people over idiots every day of the week.
So Romney doesn't want to appear to be corrupt.
He does want to appear to be corrupt instead of stupid.
He'll have Obama cast as Stuart.
He's stupid.
He don't know what he's doing.
He's in over his head.
So that might explain, according to the theory here of Finkelstein, it might.
It's a stretch, I know, but that's uh it may be the case here.
To explain what uh Romney's uh doing.
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And finally the phones, Nashua, New Hampshire.
Sandra, thank you for waiting.
Hello.
Hi, Russ.
I cannot believe I'm talking to you.
Well, thank you.
I'm uh I'm glad you made it in.
Happy birthday, by the way.
Thank you very much.
You know, Fox News reported that you were turning 60 today.
Did they?
Yes, they did.
I don't know if they've corrected it, but that's what they said this morning.
Well, who's counting 6061?
I mean, it's not not a big difference either way.
You know, I also wanted to point out to you that on our local news, um, they reported this morning in New Hampshire that there's been a change in the standings, and Rick Santorum actually came in fourth ahead of Gingrich.
In um in uh New Hampshire.
In New Hampshire.
Okay.
Uh but the point of my call um was to say that I had been a new voter.
Um really my vote was newts to lose.
I really wanted to vote for Newtons.
Um I became disappointed in him as he started to do these um attacks on Romney.
Just because I thought he was coming from the wrong side.
I felt like he was attacking him for what was conservative about him instead of attacking him for what's liberal about him.
And um I actually went to a uh poll place where I knew that Newt was gonna be, waited for an hour, never found him, but I wanted to shake his hand and say, I haven't kept my vote yet, but you're losing me.
Um when I heard that this person in South Carolina had said those same things, um, you know, I was kind of taking heart.
I I keep hoping that at any second he's gonna say, you know what, this is let's just drop it.
Let's refocus.
Let's get back to talking about Just understand you have Newton has lost your vote, but he could get it back.
Well, at that well, at that time, when it when it was Tuesday and I had not vote in the primary yet, I felt like if I saw him and and was you know, could say, you know, what can you do to make me vote for you?
You know, will you will you take a different direction?
Um, you know, I there's so many things about him that I do like.
You know, everybody likes him in a debate.
I was looking down the lines here, popping popcorn and watching him take on Obama.
Um, but I guess I I did not really like the direction he was taking in between debate.
All right, so we finally found something, at least with you that matters more than debate performance.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, I just I really I felt like he started to uh you know he's abandoning conservatism a little bit if he's gonna start to go after Mitt.
He he's really coming after Mitt from the left.
I mean, you could you could go after Mitt on his gun control um things that he passed in Massachusetts or on his his shifting.
Well, see that now that is interesting, um Sandra.
That that would be an interesting line of attack.
A better question for Perry and Newt to ask would be something like what you just said.
Uh how did Romney's experience at Bayon Capitol make him a better governor of Massachusetts?
Now that would be a legitimate question because Romney is running around talking about his experience in Maine qualifies him because of job creation and a number of other things.
Okay.
Then tell us how did your experience in Maine make you a better governor?
And how will it make you a better president?
If it's you could do that, that would not constitute uh an attack on capitalism.
I mean, whoever thought, folks, really, whoe thought that you would hear a conservative campaigning by saying the other guy's more capitalistic than I am.
As as a means of criticizing.
Whoever thought you'd ever hear this.
Back in the saddle.
Rush Limbaugh and the excellence in broadcasting network to the phones, Benjamin in Las Vegas.
Great to have you, and I I really am glad you waited too.
Hello.
Hey, Russ.
No, thank you for letting me on.
It's an honor to be a part of the birthday show.
You're more than welcome, sir.
And I didn't let you on, you earned it.
Oh, I thank you.
Thank you.
Um, you better keep earning it.
Yeah.
Going back to the top of the show, uh, you were talking about uh the stats that they're basically clearly manipulating and while trying to read the top secret and highly predictable liberal playbook.
I think it's clear that Obama's gonna use these statistics as proof that its jobs bills work.
I think the neat thing to do or the trick that maybe the Republicans should do is actually turn around and say, No, these numbers didn't turn around until after the Tea Party took to power.
I just think it would be a great little scheme to play their game against them.
Well, uh Yeah.
Um see I know things you don't know.
Um probably quite since we're talking about politics and we can lie, yeah, go for it.
That's credit the Tea Party with the drop in unemployment numbers.
Isn't that Obama had nothing to do with it?
And arguably that's in fact you hear what Centaurum said?
I kind of like this.
Santorum said the unemployment situation is getting better because people are already eagerly anticipating Obama losing in November.
There's already an uptick in uh in positive thinking and attitude out there because of the prospect Obama might lose.
Yeah, no, I agree with it.
Uh any time we talk about unemployment numbers, and I like to say they are getting better just on the premise that the Tea Party.
Well, they they didn't start going down until after January two thousand nine.
I mean, you're right, when the tea when the after after the um especially after the midterms of twenty ten, that that's that's when the precipitous uh drop started taking place.
Yeah, I mean, I do the same trick with the Clinton surplus.
When people talk about that, I like to say, look, it was after Republicans took the majority back then, too.
Um I mean it's a little game I like to play because people always assume that's the right.
Yeah, we like playing games here too, but I also like being honest.
I just have to tell you I shouldn't tell you this, I'm gonna get blowback on it, but I'm gonna tell you.
No, I'm not gonna tell you.
Yeah, I gotta tell you now.
I can't back out of it.
Um I don't like telling you this.
I wish it weren't because the Tea Party in the House that they really have tried to marginalize the the the uh They've they've they've tried to lessen the influence of the Tea Party freshmen in the House.
They've the Republican leadership has.
I mean, it's not that the Democrats do the same thing to their arriving freshmen.
The the the so called conservative Democrats or the moderate Democrats.
I mean, Pelosi tried to get him defeated, even if it meant thinning the herd.
It's the same thing.
The the Tea Party, the Tea Party arrived all loaded for bear.
I mean, they were they were they were elected, they were sent there to fix this spending mess, and they found the leadership wasn't as interested in that as they were.
And then they were told that if you um if you want to go anywhere here as a member of the House, then you gotta drop that.
And some of them did and some of them didn't.
It's it's enormous, enormous pressure.
But regardless, we'll take your uh your suggested strategy and run with it.
Benjamin, thanks much for the phone call.
Appreciate it.
John in Wilson, New York.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Ross, Navy C V Dead O'S.
Thank you.
John, I have to tell you something here.
You are the only call on the board that Mr. Snerdley has not told me what you want to talk about.
So I have no clue.
In the comments subject column of your call, it was blank.
Okay, this is gonna be different, Ross.
We need a guy who will get down in the trenches and beat the Democrats because I am tired of these guys like Romney and everyone else that is Mamby Pambi.
We what r what Newt's doing right now is what he has to to win, and that's what we need this year.
There's a better way of doing this.
Well there's an indictment of capitalism going on here.
I know Newt's trying to walk that back and just refocus it on Romney and and himself, but Bain Capitol.
We had the soundbite for Robert Kraft.
Who do you w let me ask you this?
I mean, I I'm s you know, I'm I live in Literalville.
I live in Realville, and I I can't get out of it.
And I need to ask you a qu where do you think Bain Capital gets its money?
Are these six or twenty-one rich guys?
Oh who where where does Bain Capital get its money to go out and buy these companies?
I know where it comes from.
It comes from my 401k.
I got it, right?
That's exactly right.
It comes from pension plans.
It comes from um union retirement plans and so forth.
That's that's that's what's so maddening about this that these guys at Bain uh uh are are are trying to re improve the return on people investing with Bain, and that could be your retirement.
I got it, Rosh.
It's part of the process.
I know it's it's not nice, it's nasty.
We need a brawler next November, or we're gonna lose this thing.
I can see it happening now.
It's about a hundred feet from the end of the Republican primary.
Romney's gonna turn on his left turn signal.
I look it, I uh I a lot of people think that.
I uh I can't tell you how how often I hear people I have uh people tell me that they think Romney is the next Nixon.
Meaning is gonna do whatever he has to do to make the left like him.
And Nixon, of course, really expanded the bureaucracy.
OSHA, EPA, Nixon gave us a lot of these new cabinet departments.
Um because the left hated him.
A lot of people tell me they don't think Romney is a real conservative, that he's just saying this.
Rush, I can't, a guy that was pro-abortion, pro-gun control, pro uh gay marriage, raise taxes.
I don't know how you turn that around and call yourself conservative.
I ain't so I'm sorry, sir, but I I cannot swallow that.
Well, and I think this is why uh people perceive there to be a um uh lack of passion.
But at the same time, let me just ask you this, John.
Will you agree with me?
And I'm not I'm not this is not a rhetorical device.
I'm not saying as you would most definitely agree.
I'm asking you, would you agree with me that Romney's not a popular guy on the Republican side?
Oh, absolutely.
Well, why is that?
What's it aren't they mad at Romney because they think he fights dirty?
Look at you go back to 2008.
The anger at Romney then was identical to Newt's anger at him in 2012.
Romney was running ads because he had money that nobody else had at the time against McCain, against Huckabee.
They were livid.
They were livid.
Giuliani was living, just like Newt and Perry are now.
So what that means is okay, Romney's dirty.
Romney fights dirty, Romney runs ads or his packs do that are chocked full of lies.
Yet you called and said that he'll take a left turn into Wimpville when it's time to run against Obama.
Well, I think that's two different things.
I I he's definitely gonna go left.
I mean, I I think he'll some of the hard left positions of Obama, he will curve.
I wouldn't look for any radical changes out of him.
I just don't think so.
Why does he want to be president then?
I don't do you not believe him when he says he will repeal Obamacare.
Do you not believe him when he says we're going to reverse the direction of this country and make it strong economically and great again?
Do you not believe him?
Well, as far as Obamacare goes, you know how he his position in Massachusetts, and I think he'll make uh uh an attempt at a curbing or Obamacare.
I don't think it'll be a full effort, though.
I think it'll be just uh a wholehearted, half-hearted thing.
Why?
I'm not arguing.
I want to know why.
I I think Romney's uh I've seen these guys, they take the safe road.
And the safe road is uh maybe do a token knockdown of it just to say you did it, and that's gonna be the end of it.
But avoid controversy.
I'm sorry, what's that avoid controversy?
You don't want to go anywhere near I don't you you are echoing, you're echoing things I hear from a lot of people.
So you um you by no means in um vote by yourself.
Now, we're gonna hold the House.
I don't know the odds are good that we're gonna increase our um position in the Senate.
Now the question is being asked of me, doesn't that help keep Romney No, it's just the opposite.
I hate to tell you, but when you have a Republican president and a Republican Congress, the Republican Congress doesn't buck the Republican president.
The repo because then you would have story after story of party disloyalty.
That that is why I've maintained for many many moons now, a little Indian lingo there, that the House Republicans got so beat up by their voters because they went along with all that spending.
But they were simply they were simply passing into law the budget their president gave them.
It wasn't really until the summer of what would it have been, 2007, that the House Republicans finally broke away from the root from the administration on illegal immigration.
The House Republicans finally stood up and said there's no way we're not going for this amnesty.
We're not gonna, you know, they bit the bullet on campaign finance reform.
Uh Medicare Party do a lot of things.
And I talked to House Republicans back then, so we've got no choice.
I mean, that the president wants to spend this money, and if we don't go along with it, then where do you know party loyalty comes into play?
We're accused of not following the president, then they got a mutiny here.
So the the Republican Senate and House will follow what a Republican president wants.
Look at Obama and the Democrats.
I mean, uh it took a whole bunch of chicanery, trickery, tomfoolery, and trickinology, but they got their health care done.
The uh Obama is running around against Congress and won't follow him, won't do anything.
And it's a majority Democrat for most of his term.
But on balance, uh, you're going to find the Republican Congress going along with the Republican president.
least that's the truth in recent histoire.
Last night on MSNBC, the Reverend Al Sharpton, Resist Me Much, I'm not sure.
Had as his guest the former chairman of the Congressional Black Caucasians, man by the name of James Cleburn, ranking member of the House, as well as a member of the CBC.
And they were discussing uh Romney and Bain Capitol and Newt Gingrich's criticism.
I have no problem with uh Mitt Romney or anybody else, making millions or even billions.
What my problem is is that if you question things done in the name of capitalism, then he calls it being envious.
I don't think Innabada was envious or fearful of being envious when they failed to question what Bernard Madoff was doing.
He did all that in the name of capitalism.
We can question what people are doing and the way they do it, and to make sure that people adhere uh to fair play.
This whole issue is about fundamental fairness.
So uh what?
Uh uh Romney and Bain Capital are like Mattoff.
See, this is this is what's dangerous, but this is the left.
Bernie Madd up, that's capitalism.
No, it's not.
That's criminal.
That's fraud.
There's nothing, there was no capitalism involved what Bernie Madoff did, but the left wants you to think so.
They want to criticize Miss Murch because they like socialism.
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And how many of you you you you want to leave your daughter something?
You uh you set it up so that that uh she doesn't get the loot until she's 30 or until she marries some.
Now that wouldn't work, then she forced to get married to get the loot.
No, no.
So you you um you set it up so that she only gets the money she doesn't get married until she's 40.
What are the number of ways you can do here to protect yourself and your loot and your family from getting a screw job.
Houston, Texas, this is Patty.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hello, Megadinos, Rosh.
Thank you.
And uh the second time I've called, very happy about that.
And I wanted to thank you for being on there.
I've I've been listening to you since 92.
Thank you very much.
And the reason why I called was just to, I guess, critique your critique of Newt and his uh uh as you stated his attack on capitalism.
Um I would argue that he's been very specific of having a specific critique of Romney, citing three examples, example cited in the New York Times, where it wasn't just a question of uh of whether uh capitalism as a whole works, but rather, hey, here are specific instances where uh you had these private private equity funds.
I understand uh Bain is a vent is a venture fund, but I believe it it it began as a private equity fund in which they have uh access that normal blow Joe does not have in terms of starting businesses.
I'm I'm an Ivy League grad.
I know this for a fact.
I could have worked, you know, easily as a magnetic consultant.
Well that let me tell you something I have I have to I'm I'm sorry.
I thought I had more time when I took your call.
In fact, get her number so we call her back.
But when you, because I hate you're getting shortchanged like this.
When you said you're Ivy League, that explains you know everything.
The New York Times how many people have they laid off?
How many employees have they let go and bought out and so forth and they just got rid of their CEO for 50 million and they write stories on Bain Cap.
This is such such such hypocrisy.
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