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Dec. 9, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 9, 2011, Friday, Hour #3
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Hiya, folks, and welcome back.
Great to have you here.
It's Rush Lindbaud.
This is Friday.
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But on Friday, I'll fake it if I have to.
And some days I'm better at faking it than others.
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Interesting little story here today from the Hill.com.
A Democrat lawmaker today said that President Obama might cave on his threat to veto an extension of payroll tax if it's tied to the Keystone Pipeline.
You know who said it?
Emmanuel Cleaver.
Democrat Missouri from Kansas City.
I remember old Emmanuel.
I used to live there.
Emmanuel was something when I lived there.
Might have been a member of Congress, might have been a mayor, might have been.
But I remember Emmanuel Cleaver from those days, and he said, I think Obama's serious about this, but at the end it may be here's an opportunity to get a deal and get what I want and go home.
Consider the fact that in previous debates like this, before the end of the summer, the president never said I will veto that pipeline deal.
So I don't know strategy in the White House right now, but I gotta say, President's serious.
But I think in politics, everybody understands you have to get the best deal you can.
Now what Cleaver is saying here, you want me to translate this.
Cleaver is saying we want to get the hell out of here in time for Christmas, and we're not gonna stay here, and he better not veto this pipeline thing if it means we have to stay here because we are not staying here for Christmas.
That's all this means.
What this means is this is Emmanuel Cleaver telling Obama, look, pal, we are getting out of here.
You say you can keep us here while Michelle and the girls are over in Hawaii.
You say you can keep us here.
Well, we're getting out of here.
And the only way we're gonna get out of here is if that pipeline's part of this.
And I've looked and I've seen some uh openings for you, so I know that you're probably you might cave on it.
That's what Emmanuel Cleaver's saying here.
Democrats want out of town.
Democrats want to get home for Christmas.
Now, interestingly, a Cleaver spokeswoman, Stephanie Young, contacted the Hill after his appearance to say that Emmanuel Cleaver misspoke and that he does not and will not be supporting this bill.
So what happened is Emmanuel Cleaver goes out there and basically says, Look, Barry, we going home.
We're gonna be home in time for Christmas if that means that you include this pipeline in the tax cut, you do it, we're getting out of here.
Somebody in the White House obviously read it, heard it, and called up Emmanuel Cleaver.
And whatever was might have had Andy Stern call him, maybe some union guy, maybe the goons that beat up the black guy in St. Louis.
Who knows?
But they called up Emmanuel Cleaver.
They said, You really uh mean that, uh Manny.
Really mean that?
Mean what?
Well, these threats.
I didn't threaten anybody.
Yes, you did.
You're threatening the president here.
You so anyway, uh now the Cleaver office has uh put out this message that hey, hey, uh Congressman that's not what he said.
He misspoke.
You misunderstood.
Uh he doesn't support this bill.
He doesn't support the pipeline.
No, no, no, no, no.
You got you got it wrong.
Well, we've got it right here.
We got it what he said.
I just read it to you.
Speaking Friday on MSNBC's morning show.
Cleaver said the president might walk back his veto threat.
I think the president probably feels that throwing in the pipeline's not a good deal.
I think the president's a good government president, but I think whether or not he'll delay the deal is another issue.
So what happened was I'm a sense of searching if we have that.
Because the manual's fun to listen to.
I'm looking at the soundbite roster.
Yeah, they'll see it either.
Doesn't matter.
Cookie, don't bother, it's no big deal.
Um the uh thing obviously happened here is that Emmanuel Cleaver was told, hey, your day pass to leave the plantation has just been revoked.
And you keep talking like this, and you're never getting off it.
He basically said that I think the president might walk back the veto threat, because we're gonna get out of here at Christmas time.
Yeah, that's it.
You know what this tells me the president does not have his people on this.
And Dingy Harry can't get the votes for this, and they run the Senate.
Dingy Harry cannot.
However, he structures it, he cannot get the Democrat votes for this his payroll tax cut extension.
He cannot do it, even running the Senate.
So Obama's party is not with him on this.
And I'm telling, I know I know you think that I'm cynical, and I may be misreading things.
When I tell you to follow the money, don't doubt me.
I'm the right now, this pipeline is bringing money, campaign donations in on both sides.
Environmentalist wackos are notating, big oil's donating.
If he okay's the pipeline or turns it down officially, one of those streams dries up.
If he okay's the pipeline, then not only the environmentalist wackos stop with the money, they get really, really mad.
They run ads and they're already feeling disrespected.
This pipeline, if Obama is re-elected, is going to be approved shortly after the next inauguration.
If Obama's re-elected, I don't care who's elected, this pipeline's gonna be approved.
What was the question?
Yeah, the unions are for the pipeline.
The unions are for the pipeline.
But he's already, he doesn't have to worry about the unions drying up.
They have many things they're interested in.
Pipeline is one of them.
In fact, I am sure.
Excuse me.
I'm sure Obama's, you know, called Andy Stern and Trump and the rest of these guys.
Uh, who's the son of a bitch?
Um Hoffa.
And I brought him in there.
Said, look, just just don't tell your guys put the guns down, the axes down.
It's all gonna happen.
It's all well, he called us that.
I did that on purpose.
He called us sons of bitches.
Snerdley is in there thinking, you should have answered the other question.
No.
He called us that.
I said that on purpose.
He called us SOBs.
It's open line Friday.
We got a 40-second delay.
I can still delay it.
They ought to delay it.
Well, it's too late now.
We've gone past the delay.
Can't delay it now.
Well, it's okay, it just went live.
What that said it 40 seconds ago, 45 just went live, so can't take it back.
I'm sure that he's told the union guys, hey, hey, hey, hey, you're gonna get the pipeline gig.
I just can't do it now.
I need money coming in from both sides of this.
That's that's no doubt whatsoever is my mind.
I love this.
Like from the third or fourth Manheim Steamroller Christmas CD, Pat a Pan.
By the way, the um targeting of Gingrich is paying off.
CNN says that leave the music up.
Gingrich uh yeah, Gingrich, I like the music.
I can talk over it.
I'm a professional.
Gingrich event canceled amid safety concerns.
The bookseller set to host a Newt Gingrich book signing today, canceled the event, citing public safety concerns.
Newt uh scheduled a visit Hudson News at Union Station in Washington with his wife to promote her New children's book and his two most recent books.
Hudson News, located blocks from Capitol Hill.
You can see it.
You can see Union Station out the window on some of the Fox shows from Washington.
They said they're not going to have the event for Newt and his wife in order to address public safety concerns.
That's a scoop because the only other people reported are CNN and nobody watches them.
So by the way, uh MSNBC is doing this story on uh Dominique Strauss Count or Strauss Strauss Strauss Conn.
TSK.
You know, when I went up to New York for the Rush to Excellence Tour at uh town hall, I obviously uh I had a staging area.
And the theater has a green room about the size of the desk here, so it wasn't sufficient.
So we got a miniature suite at the Sofotel, which was within you know 10, 50 minutes driving distance given traffic to town hall.
And uh I I I put my name as Dominique Strauss Kahn.
Uh wanted to see if I'd get hit on by any maids.
Because that was the hotel.
I normally use a bunch of different aliases.
But uh this time nothing happened.
Room service got there faster than any place ever in my call up after some coffee, and it was there in 90 seconds.
Okay, who's next?
Perry, Birmingham, Alabama.
Great to have you on the EIB network on open line Friday.
Hi.
Hey, Rush, how are you?
Very good, thank you.
Uh I'm from Pittsburgh originally, and I want to say go stealers.
Thank you.
Well, the brutal game last night.
Oh man.
Did you watch the game last night?
I did.
Ben Rock was burger, man.
How about that?
Tough cooking.
How about that?
No, I was not disappointed not being hit on by the maid.
I just I just wanted to see what would happen.
Oh, I was it was a great game.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Um couple days ago you were talking about the um payroll tax deduction.
Right.
And I when I became like an employer, and I had to withdraw people's tax money, whatever.
Um at first I did it from the charts or whatever, and then I bought a program.
But um I was kind of astounded by how many taxes there are, and that as a society, we live off of the net pay.
We don't live off of gross days.
And when I tell my friends that 50% of the Americans don't pay federal income tax, they don't believe me.
I know they don't.
And I think that the people that don't pay federal income tax, they don't believe it either.
Because they have so many taxes taken out.
You can't keep track of the state.
You know, I think she's got a great point here.
I think there are a lot of people not paying federal income tax that don't believe it when you tell them they aren't.
I think because there are so many other deductions on their paycheck.
They don't even call it Social Security Ta.
Like I think I might have called it FICA, or I may have called it but my husband's paycheck has OASDI, and I don't even think that most people that hear that think that the payroll tax is the Social Security tax.
Yeah.
And the only way that Obama could give a large proportion of tax money back is to tax the payroll tax because everybody pays that.
You pay $500 or $600 even a year.
You know, the Democrats uh will also to counter this argument that 47% of people don't pay income tax.
Democrats say, What do you mean that the payroll tax is an income tax?
Don't give me this crap.
It is an in so they they try to counter the argument that way.
Well, I find she's got an a great point here.
That that FICA tax, if you want to give across the board tax relief that that uh is apparent to people, you cut that.
The problem is you are reducing the funding for Social Security.
It's the only mechanism for it.
There is other than borrowing and printing, of course, but there is no other funding mechanism for uh for Social Security.
And it's uh I I just I it's it's interesting because the people that aren't paying income Tax.
Are the people running around saying that everybody else isn't paying their fair share?
I mean, that's the real irony of this.
The people who paying no federal income taxes 40.
In California in the state income tax there, the top 1% pay 50% of California state income taxes.
And you've got people running around that state saying that they're not paying their fair share.
People are paying nothing in income tax, telling everybody else that they aren't paying their fair share.
And this is what Obama's encouraging.
But here's Perry.
She becomes an employer where she's required to deduct all of this stuff from her employees.
And she has the first time she became aware of how many taxes there are.
And she's right.
Most people have no idea how they're taxed.
That's why I've always been in favor of making people write their tax checks for six months.
Wouldn't even take that long.
It'd be a revolution.
People would know.
After property tax, sales tax.
There would you you if they write the check, pay everybody their gross.
Pay their just give them the gross, but they gotta pay every penny in tax via check or some physical activity debit card, but they have to do it and see it deducted from their stash.
And that's the way you would stop this, and that's why it'll never happen.
Here's Elizabeth in Western New York on Open Line Friday.
Hi.
Hello?
Hi.
Hi, I'm nervous.
Bear with me.
How are you?
Thank you for taking my call.
You bet.
My I have three comments.
My first is about your um two if by tea video contest.
Okay, there's a saying, Rush, if you're gonna talk the talk, walk the walk.
Right.
And I want to tell you what I see by what you've given the American people here.
You talk about exceptional exceptionalism and achievements and what the American people can do, as opposed to the Obama and the liberals who say, um, no, no, no, we can't do anything.
We're stupid.
We can't do anything without the government.
Um what I see with this is, and I looked at some of the examples on the website.
People are brilliant.
What you did, and I don't know if anybody else saw this, what you did was throw an opportunity out there for anybody that wanted to compete.
You didn't give them a government handout, you didn't give them, you gave them the roles, you didn't have them tied to your apron springs like the Democrats, and my God, what you get back, it shows what the Americans are.
What she's talking about are the 30-second television commercial submissions that that customers of two if by tea have submitted.
You can see them at Rushlinbaugh.com or our Facebook page.
Look, I've got to take a break.
Can you hang on, Elizabeth?
Sure.
Because there's not enough time to wrap up the uh the call with you.
And you're making a a point I really like here, and I I I don't mean to have to interrupt you, but I have no choice.
So we'll be back and continue here in a moment.
Okay, we're back to Elizabeth in uh in Western New York.
And I I really I want to thank you for making reference to this.
I don't talk about this much because I don't want to irritate people about you know talking about two if by team.
We're two if by tea is a sponsor of this program.
We we like any other sponsor, and I I I have to be uh judicious.
Now I talk about what you've called about it, and I really appreciate it because you're right.
These people, the the the it has been so hard to pick the top three winners of the people who have submitted.
We asked them to submit 30-second commercial, we gave them some guidelines, video commercial for two if by tea, and we've got the third place and second place winner up, the first place winner will be uh put up next week, early next week.
But it you're doing you're showing y you're right.
People are they're just itching to be turned loose and be creative.
Yes, can I just a second?
Yeah.
Okay.
But uh what I want people to see is when you did this, it's just like think about starting a c a business in this country.
They didn't have to pay a startup tax, Rush.
They didn't have to go through restrictions and all kinds of environmental.
They didn't have anything binding them.
You just said go for it.
And and and it parallels what we could do as a country and individuals with our businesses, if we didn't have all these handcuffs of, well, you can't do that, you can't do this, you gotta fill out this from that form.
You just said go for it.
That's all you did, and you gave them a couple of rules, 30 seconds, and said turn it in by this deadline.
And I I'm praying that people see that Behind all of this, you are walking the walk that you talk, as all conservatives talk.
I'm a conservative by the way.
And it's like if you just let us do what we can do, we can do it.
And this is in such direct contradiction to Obama.
Oh no, no, no, you need our help, and we're gonna send you to school, and then we're gonna, you know, we're gonna do this and we're gonna do that.
Work training uh retraining sessions and uh Yes, and they didn't the talent is out there.
I was so upset when Obama said we're lazy and there's no talent and we haven't we haven't done what the American founders wanted us to do.
Remember that statement of this.
You know why?
Because they won't let us.
And your and your contest is is a direct um how can I say uh an example of what we can do.
Exactly that chance for the case.
We didn't even no, they didn't even have to uh we didn't require an environmental impact statement.
Right.
We didn't require require any of that.
People didn't have to worry about that.
And I'll tell you, there people set fires in the woods in these commercials.
But all they had to do was focus on campfires, campfires.
They said campfires in the woods.
They didn't have to drive from state to state and say, Well, where can we go where our taxes will be less on this?
No, don't and this does show what that the Constitution is alive.
People can do things.
They weren't I didn't I weren't I wasn't able to see them all.
But they're not obnoxious.
They're not, you know, they're not making fun of religion or anything.
And it's just I want I'm saying this because I want people to see behind this and see what I see, which I think many people have.
This is what your program is all about.
This is what your message and all conservatives' message messages is about.
Get out of our way and we can rebuild this country just like this commercial.
And one more aside, don't think it's gonna stop here because each one of these people that's done that, somebody's gonna see it and they're gonna say, Hey, you've got talent.
How about this?
How about that?
See what I mean?
Exactly.
It all feeds off of itself.
I thank you.
Now I I don't have that kind of talent, but I wanted you to know that I saw the message behind it, and I I you know, I've been calling and calling to tell you.
And do you have any other c questions for me on that?
Because I had two little more comments if I can make them.
Well, um Yeah, I do have a question for you.
Yeah, go ahead.
You want an iPad?
Get out.
Really?
Yeah, you want or an iPhone.
Take your pick.
I have an iPhone, so I'll take the iPad.
Okay, so I'll give you an iPad.
Uh you want it white or black.
Uh well, I am black.
So you you gotta you gotta be consistent colorwise.
I'll send you a black iPad.
Okay.
No, I want a white one signed by you.
Oh, a white one.
Okay.
Well, they are.
These are engraved.
I'm not come on, I'm not in these are rush signature engraved eye piece.
Yes, thank you so much.
Right.
I'll you know what I'll also know.
I'm I'm gonna send you some Sherry's berries.
Okay, whatever they are.
They're strawberries, the chocolate cover strawberries.
You will okay, great, great.
I'll do that.
What now what what's the other point you want to make?
Okay, two long.
And by the way, don't when we're finished, don't hang up because I need to get directly.
Two little things.
Um your New York program, you know, I waited for my husband to get home from work and we're I'm streaming it on on the the laptop because you know, I'm a member and I love this.
Is this I guess I can say what I want to say.
I guess like you know how there's Roku and different things so you can stream live on TV.
Yep.
It would be great if up the line somehow you might flirt with the idea of getting it streamed on there.
You know, so those of us that have those services can sit down and stream some of your broadcast on our TV, like we can, you know.
Do you know what I mean?
It is.
It is.
You will be able with this iPad.
Oh Via a program called AirPlay.
If you've got an Apple TV.
A I R P L A watch built into the iPad.
You'll be able to project this on your television set.
Okay, great, great.
Because my little But you need to have an Apple TV to do that.
And this is little set top box, 99 bucks on sale never sitting on the butt and uh via iTunes, but you can do it.
Oh, okay, great.
We we have not made it you me are you talking about like like like Netflix makes everything available on the big side?
No, no, no, it's actually um Amazon has this Roku now and and you can stream Netflix and Well the Apple TV, the Apple TV is like a Roku.
Apple TV is like a butt it'll work with a Roku too, I think.
But there's a you'll you'll as you get into this, you'll see you can do that.
Okay, great.
I love that stuff.
And one more thing.
You can actually mirror it from the iPad um with this with uh iOS five.
you'll be able to mirror it to the TV without without uh Apple TV.
So you'll be able to project it on your TV.
I project it on my 14 foot screen.
You know, we're huddling around the laptop.
You know, and it's it's it's kind of hard, but it's worth it, but it's kind of hard.
The last thing is I order your tea relentlessly, okay.
Um did you ever you still there?
Yeah.
Okay.
But quick because I've got a I got something go quick.
Okay.
Did you ever think of um making it available to be paid through PayPal?
Oh that's for customer service.
Make that suggestion.
Seriously, make that a request on customer service.
There's a place there on the website for that kind of thing.
But that's, we are constantly taking suggestions and growing and trying to accommodate every which way we can.
People that want to buy the tea.
So she suggested we use PayPal as a payment mechanism to it by team.
And I got to think, I should call President Obama and ask him, how many jobs has PayPal destroyed?
Because his speech in Osawatomie, Kansas, he blamed the internet and phone operators and ATMs for all these loss of jobs here.
And I just wonder how many jobs have been killed by PayPal.
I should ask the president before, how many jobs have I killed by opening a tea company?
Right.
I mean, how many jobs did I kill?
Because I'm using the internet.
And the internet's a job killer, according to Obama.
By the way, I got a note here.
Just moments ago, from my good friend and often referenced buddy, Professor Hazlett, who I met back in Sacramento when I first moved there in 1984.
I met Professor Hazlett.
He was quite irritated.
I had referred to him as a conservative economist, which ticked him off.
He was a libertarian economist.
I've since changed him.
But he called me to let me know that I was not totally correct in describing him on the air.
KFBK, we've become fast friends.
He sends this noise.
He says, you know, I was driving the office earlier, and I heard you on Senator Corzine's lame attempt to plead ignorance as to the rating of investors'accounts at MF Global.
I was thinking about Sarbanes-Oxley, which sought to end corporate malfeasance, like from Amazon.
Enron Worldcom Global Crossing by forcing CEOs to take responsibility for accounting scandals they have to sign annual reports under penalty of perjury etc.
He said, you probably got to this.
This is his polite way of saying you blew it.
Professor Hazlitt sends me a list.
You blew it.
He actually wrote, you probably got to this after I was in my office and not listening.
What he means is you blew it because you should have mentioned this.
Several items are hitting this hard.
Corzine was a co-sponsor of Sarbanes-Oxley.
So really, there is no out from that all these people.
Oh, it's a tragedy for Corzine.
He blamed his predecessor.
I know he blamed a predecessor at MF Global.
Bush, whoever ran MF Global.
But he was not held to the same Sarbanes-Oxley strictures that other CEOs have been held to.
Because he's a Democrat and he has the right view on abortion.
It really is no more complicated than that, folks.
The right view on the environment, global warming.
They will not throw their people overboard.
They will not throw them overboard.
They will save them.
They'll prop them up.
That's the difference between the left and us.
We will throw our people overboard with a hangnail.
How many Republican, how many conservatives seeking the Republican nomination have been thrown overboard?
Happily so by the Republicans.
Read our so-called conservative media.
critique these people and list all of their imperfections you don't see the other side doing this they don't throw their people away they protect them well Mr. Lindbaugh we should get rid of our bad app no you'd misunderstand nobody's perfect we We don't do.
You know why we throw our people overboard?
Because we're gutless.
Because we think the moderates will vote for us that way.
We think by throwing our people overboard that the people who think we're racist and bigots and homophobes won't think.
We are totally reacting.
Can I can I tell you in politics?
Can I give you a profundity?
Nobody ever won anything defending anything.
You win by being on offense and being on the attack.
You do not get votes by being defensive.
You do not get votes by trying to repel attacks.
You do not get anywhere defending anything.
And our side refuses to learn that.
Stop and think about it.
If you're having trouble with it, think about it over the weekend.
Nobody won beans defending anything.
Either a charge against them, whether it's false.
Talk to Herman Cain.
Was Herman Cain able to defend himself and stay on message and go on?
Nobody wins anything defending.
And our side is totally defending and trying via our defense to prove that we're not racist, sexist, bigot homophobes.
We will throw our people overboard, in fact, in trying to defend everybody else.
In politics, in politics, nobody won anything defending anything.
Now I want you to stop.
I know your instinct is not Rush, I can I can give you examples where you're wrong.
But look what's at Scott Walker.
Recall.
Who's on offense there?
Who's on defense?
He's not going to win this simply by defending.
He's going to have to go on offense himself to get his votes.
It's just that's and our side won't do it because we're afraid of offending the New York Times or offending moderates or independents or what have you.
And I gotta go.
Have a great weekend.
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