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Dec. 6, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 6, 2011, Tuesday, Hour #2
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And it is a very shaken.
Rush Limbaugh kicking off the next hour of broadcast excellence.
It's not every day that somebody suggests that I could be wrong.
And certainly not every day that a caller does it.
So I'm shaken here.
But I shall go on.
It's called overcoming adversity.
And by the way, um Angela from Dumfries, Virginia, just so you know, Newt Gingrich has several times, numerous times, says that he favors the repeal of Obamacare.
Angelus, he's never heard Newt say that he favors the repeal of Obamacare.
He has.
He's even signed a pledge that's out there, committing himself to the repeal of Obamacare.
But he usually does follow that up with talk about how we need to replace it with something to help those who are currently uninsured.
And that causes people to pull their hair out.
Because it's accepting a premise that the left has put forward.
Okay, so the left put forward the notion we need national health care.
We need single-payer health care.
No, no, no, I'm gonna repeat.
But here's my alternative plan.
Screw an alternative plan.
It's based on that premise.
Anyway, welcome back, Rush Limbaugh, great to have you.
Telephone numbers 800 282882.
Email address L Rushboat EIB net.com.
If you're just joining us.
The last caller in the previous hour said to me that somebody she's trusted since the get-go of Fox News, Britt Hume, said last night that Newt can't win.
She called to discuss this with me.
After most of the previous hour was in the can.
I assume that she was confused.
After listening to me discuss how virtually I believe any of our candidates can beat Obama.
So I told, I said, I understand how you're confused.
He said, No.
I think you're confused.
I don't think you know what's going on, and that's why I am shaken as I start this hour.
Let's play the Newt uh the Brit Hume soundbite that Angela was referring to.
It was last night, I I think this is the one with Ted Baxter, who asked Britt, uh, who do you think Obama wants to run against?
Gingrich or Romney.
Based on what the White House has been doing and the Obama forces have been doing, it seems clear that they would rather run against anybody but Romney.
They're attacking Romney, which helps everybody running against him.
And it has the additional advantage of case he wins, they've touched him up a little bit.
But I think on paper, Romney looks to them like the more difficult.
Uh the more difficult candidate to beat is uh is what he said.
Now I spent a good part of the first hour trying to make the case that I think it's the opposite.
I I think the regime set up to run against Romney.
I think Occupy Wall Street was established to run against Romney, because Occupy Wall Street is anti-Wall Street, and the only Republican candidate they can tie to Wall Street is Romney.
In the Washington Post today, there is a story featuring a quote from an anonymous Democrat strategist who is very worried that Newt might and he speaks on condition of anonymity.
Because he doesn't want to catch any hell for letting go of the truth here.
And he said he's very worried that if Newt gets the nomination, they can't tie Wall Street to what's the exact let me give the exact quote here.
He doesn't carry Wall Street baggage.
I'm gonna tell you, I uh I'm on the other side of this from the uh from the establishment.
I I I don't think the regime is afraid of Romney.
I think they want him because of Romney care.
I think they think they can disqualify him on Romney care.
And I think that Occupy Wall Street was set up to run against Romney.
I think they've I think everybody's assumed that Romney was gonna be the nominee for months, including the regime.
And now all of this is uh thrown out of kilter.
Because everybody can look at the polling data and can see that while Romney's the presumed favorite, he still doesn't get over 30% in any poll of Republicans nationwide.
Now Fox is supposed to be on our side, but they are still the media.
This cannot be denied.
And the media, the establishment is invested in the status quo.
Group think happens.
It just does.
Now let me answer the question more specifically.
We have been told throughout this process by the media, by the conservative media, by anybody that is considered to be part of the establishment that Perry, Bachman, Kane, Newt, Mitt, Santorum can't win.
We have been told over and over and over again if Perry, Bachman, Kane, Newt, Mitt, Santorum, get the nomination, then Obama automatically wins.
We have been hearing and reading this for months.
Members of both party establishments say it.
That the only Republican who has a prayer of beating Obama is Romney.
My friends, I am here to tell you I simply don't subscribe.
I just it has become conventional wisdom.
And you know me in conventional wisdom.
When conventional wisdom forms, I go the other way.
Conventional wisdom is groupthink.
In other words, the Democrats, the drive bys, Republican insiders, will not admit that anybody can beat Obama.
You believe this to be true?
Do you believe that there is only one candidate who can beat Obama?
I submit to you that if that's what everybody thought, Mitt would be in the 70%.
He'd certainly be above 30.
But he can't get above 30 in a Republican primary poll outside of New Hampshire.
However, in poll after poll, anecdotal story after anecdotal story, and with news now that Obama's approval numbers are lower than Carter's.
Obama's approval numbers are lower than Lyndon Johnson's before LBJ stepped down.
We can clearly see that Obama is in trouble.
Honest Democrats, the three or four that you can find, will also admit it from Pat Cadell to Doug Schoen to this guy that we read whose story at the at the uh what was it in the New Republic yesterday, who did um it was William Galston who did an analysis of demographics, and there's only one group, only one demographic group where Obama leads, and that's blacks.
With young people 18 to 49, Hispanics, he's under 50% everywhere, and we're told that there's only one guy.
Sorry.
This is nothing against Romney.
Again, I haven't endorsed anybody.
I'm just commenting on intra-party cannibalism here.
But intraparty cannibalism against everybody but Romney does not equal a nomination.
Now there's a story in the UK independent today.
I have that story.
I read it today.
I was shocked when I read this.
Because this has not been reported in the domestic U.S. media.
you.
In fact, just the opposite is reported in the domestic media.
Here's the headline Clooney, Hanks, Spielberg.
The stars fetted him in 2008.
Now the president finds his friends out of the picture.
He was young, he was good looking, he was photogenic, he swept to power against heavy odds on the back of a heartwarming, hopey changey message Completing a rags to riches journey that might have come straight out of a blockbuster movie.
It isn't hard to see why Barack Obama's election in 2008 was a toast to Hollywood.
Five figure checks poured into his coffers, bearing such blue chip names as Hanks Clooney and Spidelberg.
By this stage in a last election cycle, the entertainment industry's hearts, minds, and wallets were already won.
Four years later, i.e.
now, not so much.
When they enter the polling booths, the stars and the power brokers who run Hollywood will still put their crosses against his name, but the sense of warm, fuzzy optimism that characterized his last election has more or less vanished.
Nowhere was the disillusionment more keenly felt than at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel last night, liberal Hollywood gathered for an exercise in Champagne socialism.
It was Norman Lear's group, people for the American Way, their 30th anniversary, had their giant big bash at the Beverly Wilshire.
People for the American Way, perhaps the most influential advocacy organization in the U.S., it says here.
Planned to celebrate its 30th birthday in style, the cost of a table between 3200 pounds and 64,000 pounds.
I didn't bother to convert it to dollars, but it's 100 grand there for the uh for the for the big table.
The host was Alec Baldwin.
The list of patrons, organizers, and supporters on the invitation included everybody from J. Abrams, Leonardo DiCaprio, John Hamm, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, Kathleen Turner, Larry Flint, Jamie Lee Curtis.
Among these pillars of the entertainment industry's liberal establishment, there is a palpable frustration with Obama.
He has failed to deliver on almost all of their pet issues from gay marriage and climate change to human rights and social justice.
In fact, Norman Lear, who founded People for the American Way, last week responded with anger in an interview as Obama's name was mentioned.
He can't make up his mind about anything.
He just vacillates.
Like Democrats do generally.
Now, I mean, I know these people still gonna vote for him.
As the story says, the excitement's gone.
This is not 2008.
All I ask you to do, folks, you're asking, well, as it turns out, Angela was not asking me who she should trust.
She was telling me she doesn't trust me.
Well, it's the same thing.
Snorlimus, she says she's wondering if I'm confused.
I'm just I'm just going to tell you, I don't I just don't believe that there's only one Republican that can beat Barack Obama.
I would say this if the House money were on Newt.
I would say this if the House money were on Bachman.
If the establishment were telling us that there's only one Republican that can beat Obama.
I'd have the same skepticism.
I'm also burdened, ladies and gentlemen, with a blistering intelligence and common sense.
Common sense has taught me to reject conventional wisdom.
Common sense has taught me to spot and identify the desires, objectives of establishment political party people on both sides of the aisle.
And their objectives are status quo, big government, government, the center of the universe, government, the center of the world, government, the center of life.
They have a universal distrust of conservative voters and conservative candidates.
Because conservative candidates don't favor the status quo.
And so anybody who threatens the status quo must be stopped.
In either party.
And when I say that it's people who are easily identified, even with doubts, as conservatives, when I see they are the targets of the effort to disqualify them.
And I see one candidate is not the target of Any attack by anybody from anywhere.
Sorry, red flags go up.
Because it defies common sense.
We're dealing with one of the most unpopular presidents in history.
That's the truth.
We're also dealing with one of the cagiest and most corrupt.
And we are facing a campaign that is going to be dispiritingly depressingly negative.
There is no doubt about it.
If you're depressed now, the way you're going to be in nine months, I hesitate to ponder it.
It's going to be brutal.
Because everybody knows on both sides in the establishment.
Everybody knows that the candidate of big government status quo is an utter disaster, and it must be protected.
Status quo must be protected by people who derive their power from it.
The thing you have to understand, Angela, is there is not a conservative movement in the media.
Fox News is not part of a conservative movement.
This is not a criticism of Fox News.
It just isn't.
It's a media company and organization.
The American people will beat the establishment nine out of ten times.
The American people will defeat Barack Obama.
The American people and the United States economy, which are one and the same, are going to beat Barack Obama.
I frankly, and I've said this over and over, I frankly don't think it's going to matter all that much who the nominee is.
I'm at terrific odds, of course, with the establishment here.
But I think it's a referendum on Obama.
And I think if the establishment on our side had any brains, they would make it a referendum on Obama instead of a referendum on who our our people are and what their supposed weaknesses are.
I would just I would relish if just for a couple days, our establishment could tell us the truth about Obama, the way they're so intent on giving us all the flaws of people on our side.
Do you ever wonder why they don't?
There hasn't even been a vote cast!
I'm just Not one vote has been cast.
And we're told that 99% of our potential nominees can't win.
Newt Gingrich leads Mitt Romney 37 to 22% in Gallup's inaugural daily tracking of Republican registered voters' preferences for the GOP presidential nomination.
This is a national poll.
And once again, it's another poll where Romney maxes out 22, 25 tops out 30% on every poll since the since the beginning of all this.
But Gingrich is at 37.
Now, coincidentally, Mitt is going on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace this Sunday.
He hasn't been on any Sunday shows.
Did you know that?
Why should he have?
When you're to presume nominee, everybody's got you in the bag.
That's that's that's that's right.
The Brett Bear well, Romney didn't like the bread bear interview.
You got a little flustered there, but but uh you don't do interviews when you don't have to.
And uh in the political realm, political world, so he's going on Fox News Sunday this Sunday.
3722.
Now, again, this can change next week.
This is so fluid I can't begin to tell you how fluid it is.
That's another reason why I just reject this notion that everybody on our side is a is a preordained loser.
Nothing makes as little sense as that.
Okay, this is Will in Amanda Ohio as we stay on the phones.
Hi, Will, welcome to the Program.
Hey, Rush.
Hey Rush, at best you don't understand the Tea Party movement.
And at worst, you're trying to co-opt the Tea Party.
And I hate to say that because I've listened to you for a lot of years.
But the Tea Party movement is about trust, justice, and constitutional leadership.
And Newt Gingrich is the Rhinos Rhino.
He's taken several million dollars from Fanny May and Freddie Mack.
He plays both sides of the owl.
He's well known for his progressivism.
He's uh his if his multiple wives don't trust him, don't expect me to trust him as a president for this country.
The Tea Party's not about Republican Democrats.
The Tea Party is about, like I said, the trust justice and constitutional leadership.
And at this point, we're we're down to three candidates, in my opinion.
We got Ron Paul, Michelle Bachman, and Rick Santorum.
And I'm leaning towards Ron Paul because at least in Congress for all his years, both sides call him Dr. No because he'll at least stick to the Constitution and what it requires.
And if and we've gotten into this mess, Rush, because we've always chosen the worst of the two choices.
And this is probably our last chance.
This country is going down fast.
You telling me that the Tea Party is going to end up rallying around Ron Paul.
One of the three.
I think in the end, one of the three.
Where's that reflected in the...
I think we're all at a good chance for Iowa.
And I hope he wins, because if he does, I think you're going to see people rallying.
Where is it reflected in the polling data?
Well, right now he's running second for what I understand in Iowa.
He's probably gonna win Iowa.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ron Paul wins Iowa budget.
And then I think you're gonna see people break away from this two-party madness.
That's how we've got in this position, Rush.
Well we'll see.
We'll see, but you misunderstand where I am in all of this.
But that's okay.
That's okay.
I am shaken, but not stirred.
All right, once again, let me bring some reason and sanity to all this.
We just heard that the Tea Party is gonna support Ron Paul, Santorum or Bachman, or bust.
I just went.
And this guy is not a Tea Party caller.
This guy's a Ron Paul caller.
I just went to the Gallup poll.
Dug deep inside the Gallup poll, the one I just told you that shows Gingrich over Romney 3722.
Ron Paul is at seven percent among Tea Party supporters.
But there's more than that.
The Tea Party is not the Ron Paul campaign.
Ron Paul has nothing to do with the Tea Party.
Zilch Zero Nada.
There is no way that you can back Ron Paul and also back Bachman and Santorum.
The reason is that Ron Paul's foreign policy has nothing in common with Tea Party foreign policy, nothing in common with Bachman or Santorum foreign policy.
Ron Paul did not start the Tea Party.
Ron Paul is not the Tea Party.
That caller also said, and this is all this is so predictable.
It happens every four years.
Two party system, two party madness, and we're not gonna put up with it anymore, Rush, and you're part of it.
You're part of two party.
We know you.
Let me tell you something.
If two party madness is the issue, why did Ron Paul leave the Libertarian Party to run as a Republican?
Ron Paul's not running as a third party.
He's not running as a libertarian.
He's running as a Republican.
He's involved himself in the two-party system.
And Ron Paul has led the wave with tens of millions of dollars in earmarks.
Ron Paul blames America for 9-11.
That's not what the Tea Party thinks.
That's not what conservatives think.
Now, there's some Tea Party activists that support Ron Paul, but most don't.
As is evidenced by the Gallup polls at seven percent.
But Ron Paul's foreign policy doesn't there's.
There's nobody.
No other Republican running on that nomination dais if they're at any of these debates that has a foreign policy that's anywhere near Ron Paul's.
Bachman Centaurum, Gingrich, Romney, none of them blame the United States for Iran nuking up.
None of them blame the United States for 9-11.
I love the way these uh Ron Paul supporters try to tell us who is or who isn't conservative.
When Paul is a libertarian, Ron Paul's libertarian used to belong to that party, but knows he can't win as a libertarian.
So he comes over and joins the Republican Party.
I think Ron Paul, even with us, yeah, I I he says he could he could relate to and understand the occupiers.
A Tea Party doesn't think that.
So Boy, Rush, no, you've really done it.
Then you really run out and attack Ron Paul.
I didn't attack Ron Paul.
I'm simply telling you what is.
There's a big difference here.
I was the one who was attacked.
My callers are gunning for me today, folks.
I am a shaken host here.
Not stirred, but shaken.
Hanging tough.
But none of the GOP, apart from Ron Paul, blames Wall Street for the recession.
Ron Paul does.
Where is this common ground between Ron Paul and Rick Santorm and Bachman?
Have you seen Santorum's face when Ron Paul's describing his foreign policy?
Sam Torum's waving his arm trying to get in there and respond to it.
Who's next?
Can't believe what Snerdley is finding out there today.
This is Sam in Walnut Creek, California.
Hi, Sam, great to have you on the program.
Hey, Russ, Megadetto.
Thank you, sir.
You don't have to worry about me gunning for you.
I think he got me right here.
But one of the things I wanted to mention was earlier in the show you were touching upon people who were actually saying that Obama would somehow be better than Newt.
No, I was I I I want to ask some of these Republican media types who are trying to take Newt out today.
I want to ask them, do you really think we'd be better off with Obama?
Well, I I keep seeing that online where people are actually saying conservatives are saying that they would rather have Obama than vote for Newt.
And what what they're missing the the point that they're missing is Wait a minute, where are you seeing that?
It's it's all over the internet.
It's all over.
It's just you look at forums, you look at chat boards, you look at the Twitter.
A lot of people are saying they'd rather have Obama over Newt, and that's why that'd be a ridiculous position for anyone to take.
You uh believe this.
Do we think do you think that there's a uh a majority of conservatives who actually think that they'd rather have Obama than Newt?
They're saying it, and when you question them, they say what's based on principle, and you know, they they they're they don't like Newt Gingrich, and they say if my candidate doesn't get elected, I'll either write him in or I just won't vote.
I mean what they're the point that they're missing is that who would they rather have making Supreme Court appointments?
Obama or Newt Gingrich.
I mean, that's the that's the issue we need to be looking at now because you're going to get at least two, maybe three vacancies in the next presidential term on the Supreme Court, and Obama's already put two radicals in there.
Do you want two or three more and have a majority of radicals on the Supreme Court?
Uh Sam, let me tell you something.
Um I've been I've been behind the golden EIB microphone here for 23 years.
Every election.
I've studied it.
Every election, there is a small group of people who say, you know what, Rush.
We just need Obama to win.
Then let the people of this country see how bad it can get.
It will wipe out socialism forever.
You let Obama win.
I heard it in 1992.
I heard it in 1988.
Let a let Dukakis win, Rush.
Let him win.
The American people, they'll find out how bad socialism is, and we'll never lose another election.
I heard it in 92 with Clinton.
And we're hearing it again now, apparently.
It's not widespread, not to say who it is.
God bless them.
It is new arrivals to the political scene.
It is people, and you have to understand, folks, there are people getting interested in politics for the first time in their lives every day.
There is a learning curve.
There are certain predictable things that people learn, believe, say as they uh immerse themselves In this, and this is one of these standard operating theories that's been around longer than I've been around.
Let's just have these liberals win and have the American people see how stupid they are and how bad it can get, and it will never lose another election.
And that's probably what you're when you reading these tweets and the my buttzes and spaces and faces of wherever you're going out there, Facebook.
People said rather have uh uh Obama than Newt, and they say that they are conservatives saying this.
Uh remember, anybody can go on a website or a write a tweet, put on their Facebook page.
Anybody can say that they are anything, and there's no way you can prove otherwise.
It's just like anybody can call this program, you know, Russia been a conservative all my life.
I'll listen to you since 1988, and I agree with 99% of everything you say, but you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Ron Paul.
For example.
Anybody call here and claim to be anything.
The left is in trouble all over the world.
The left cannot win an election being honest about who they are.
Obama cannot use as a campaign slogan four more years.
Obama cannot campaign on one aspect of his record.
Obama cannot say, re-elect me because you're gonna get more of this.
Because if he did, he would lose in a practically obliterating landslide.
The left can never win an election being honest about who they are and what they plan to do.
It is also part and parcel of every election that a bunch of conservatives are going to believe that there is no way we can ever win, that the left and the media are ten times as smart as our elected officials are, and they're going to be outsmarted every minute of every day that we are destined to lose.
We have no prayer, we have no hope, and everybody loves being apocalyptic and negative.
It comes naturally to everybody to be that way.
What you have to learn to do is to read this stuff and not assign to it mass belief or mass thought.
I know it's hard.
I know it's very difficult, because no matter where you look in the grand scheme, is there anybody on our side?
Other than you know, talk radio and so forth, and sometimes Fox.
But everybody loves movies, but you go to a movie and you're going to be made fun of for what you believe.
The odds are you like television, you're going to turn on a television show, you're going to be made fun of for what you believe.
For going out loud, even if you're a Christian, you can't watch a football game anymore without hearing about what a phony baloney plastic banana loser Tim Tebow is.
Getting up every day as a conservative is to get up and be ridiculed, laughed at, made fun of, and made to think that you're the biggest fringe minority kook ever to live when it's just the opposite.
But common sense has got to rear its head here at some point.
There hasn't been a vote cast.
The guy in the White House has destroyed the economy.
He's destroyed the value of homes, he's destroyed jobs, he's destroyed everything.
And somehow this guy's an automatic re-elect.
In whose book?
Certainly not mine.
We'll be back.
You know what Snerdley just said to me during the break?
Yeah, this big smile on his face.
He said, How do you do it?
Let's say, what do you mean?
How do you do it?
It doesn't matter what, when, where, or why.
You always end up being the only one with a unique position rooted in common sense.
You realize everybody else, and he's talking about in the big media.
Everybody else, once again, all think the same thing.
They're all saying the same thing.
It doesn't matter what network you go to, it doesn't want matter, no matter what newspaper you're they're all saying the same thing.
Only Romney can win.
The regime wants to run against Romney, and only Romney can win.
And Snerdley is marveling as he thinks that I'm staking out a unique position by virtue of strategy.
That this is part of my allure and appeal.
And I sure know I'm not calculating anything here.
Common sense is not a calculation.
I said, Snerdley, you're asking the wrong guys why I'm the only one who thinks what I think.
You better go think ask everybody else who thinks the same thing why they all agree with each other.
It's almost acting like I look into this, being the only place you can tune to for a counterpoint or a countervailing view, and it's not my doing.
I know, but understand.
For twenty-three years, I L. Rushbo stand out by being the only.
It's not me.
It's all the others.
It's like I've always said if you miss CBS, watch ABC.
If you miss ABC, watch NBC.
Miss that, watch CNN.
If you miss that, watch MSNBC.
If you miss all of that, read the New York Times.
If you miss that, read the Washington Post.
Miss that, find the Associated Press.
If you miss that, go get USA Today.
If you miss that, read the LA Times.
If you miss that, go read the San Francisco Chronicle.
If you miss that, pick up any other newspaper.
But if you miss this, there's nowhere else to go to get it.
If you miss this, you have missed it.
And I would love to tell you that it's the result of brilliant strategical positioning and thinking.
But it isn't.
Because common sense.
And using intelligence guided by experience is not a calculation.
Bob in the Bronx, great to have you on the program, sir.
Thank you for waiting and hello.
Hi, Rush.
Very quick comment before I get to my question.
You I my feeling is very firmly that you are our William F. Buckley.
Well.
And you should have a firing line show.
Well, thank you.
There's no William F. Buckley but him, but I appreciate it.
I really do.
Thank you very much.
Yesterday Newt came to New York to meet with Donald Trump and talk.
And I guess Newt said he would be part of his uh December 27th debate.
Now, of course, the liberal media is saying what a joke this is, being Trump.
Oh, it's not just liberal media.
Charles Krauther at Crowdhammer Review Online said that the Trump debate is a joke.
That's right.
Yes.
And well, I was gonna say they're saying, you know, Donald Trump is only a celebrity, has a show on NBC, blah, blah, blah.
But I've heard Trump speak on many issues, especially trade, foreign policy, and foreign affairs, and as a businessman, Trump knows what he's talking about.
You agree more with Trump than you do, say a Chuck Todd or an Andrea Mitchell.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
For sure.
And and Trump also knows how critical it is to this nation to get rid of Obama.
Do you think Trump knows more about uh uh these kind of events than Wolf Blitzer knows?
Uh I would I would say so, yes.
No doubt about it.
Yep.
Anyway, my question question to you was I wanted to know what your opinion of uh, you know, the Trump and and Newt meeting is uh being, you know.
I don't know.
I uh uh it's not just Newt.
I mean, every Republican's gone on over there.
Uh the Trump Tower kissed the ring.
Every one of them has.
Hey, get this.
The Library of Congress is going to receive the entire Twitter archive.
If you have ever sent a tweet, the government is going to have it on file.
Every tweet sent the government is going to have.
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