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Oct. 28, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 28, 2011, Friday, Hour #3
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Honestly, folks, I kid you not when I tell you that Occupy Wall Street protesters are saying to themselves and to us that they are gearing up for their valley forge moment.
It's Friday.
Let's go.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
It's open line Friday.
Open line Friday where I. Monday
through Thursday, it does matter.
You have to talk about what I'm interested in, or you don't make it.
Well, on Friday, golden opportunity for you to ask a question, make a comment about anything that you want, including if you think something that should be discussed that hasn't been.
The telephone number is 800-282-2882 and the email address L Rushbo at EIBNet.com from the San Francisco Chronicle.
Taxie, it's an AP story.
Anti-Wall Street protesters around the country who are vowing to stand their ground against the police and the politicians are also digging in against a different kind of adversary, cold weather.
With the temperatures dropping, they're stockpiling donated coats, blankets, and scarves, trying to secure cots and military grade tents, and getting survival tips from the homeless who have joined their encampments.
Now stop and think of that.
Occupy Wall Streeters soliciting survival tips from the homeless.
And don't forget this.
They have done thermal imaging of the tent city at Occupy London at night.
And they have found that 90% of the tents are empty.
Those spoiled brats go back to mom and dad's house.
Toke up, spend the night, come back the next day, and make it look like they never left.
Michael McCarthy, a former Navy medic in Providence, says everybody has been calling it our Valley Forge moment.
Everybody thought George Washington couldn't possibly survive in the Northeast.
So these people are comparing what they're doing to George Washington at Valley Forge.
It's not even November.
Now there is going to be a little snowstorm in the Northeast, Connecticut, New York, may see some flakes, Boston.
No, it's not a blizzard.
It's uh but it's it's it given how early it is in the season, it's a significant snow, but they compare themselves to George Washington.
It's our Valley Forge moment.
More than a month and a half into the movement, Occupy Wall Street activists from New York to Colorado have pledged to tough it out.
The snow, the sleet, and the cold as they protest economic inequality and what they call corporate greed.
But the dangers of staying outdoors in some of the country's harsher climates are already becoming apparent in Denver.
Two protesters were hospitalized with hypothermia this week during a storm that brought several inches of snow.
The activists also know full well that the number of demonstrators is likely to drop as the weather gets colder.
Some movements are scouting locations indoors, including vacant buildings or other unused properties, maybe even foreclosed homes, though some question the wisdom of holding a protest outside the public eye.
In other words, if we go inside, nobody's gonna see us.
Uh Then there's this Democrat Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren said yesterday the Wall Street protests were independent and organic.
She's conceding that she misspoke during an earlier interview in which she seemed to be taking credit for the movement.
What I meant to say, yes, I I've been protesting Wall Street for a long time now.
That's that's what I meant to say.
What she said was she created much of the intellectual foundation for what they do.
Now she's trying to walk that back by saying that the Occupy Wall Street movement's organic, it's independent, and uh that's how it should be.
I really didn't have much to do with it.
Why would she walk this back?
Are the Occupy Wall Street people getting mad over who's getting credit for this?
Why would why would she walk this back?
The only reason she'd walk it back is if it's going to hurt her campaign.
This woman, by the way, is the one who oversaw TARP.
She's the one.
She was in the regime.
She oversaw the TARP, the uh the the the bailouts.
This this Harvard Professorette.
Governor Jerry Brown is resting a backlash on his pension plan.
Uh, Governor Jerry Brown, California proposed a sweeping overhaul of California pension.
Wait, I don't care about this.
I don't care, but I don't care about it today.
Let's see.
Uh I can't read this one.
That's too small.
Ah, here's one.
The uh expiration of federal stimulus funding for Medicaid has dealt a blow to states still struggling to recover from the economic downturn, according to figures released yesterday to compensate for the loss of extra federal Medicaid dollars this June.
States have increased their spending on the program by an average of 29%.
Does that make sense to compensate for the loss of revenue they're spending more?
It's a Washington Post story and it's a sob story.
And uh some people might find it odd or it might be news to you that Medicaid spending was stimulus.
But it was the expiration of federal stimulus funding for Medicaid.
Did you know that the original porculus bill had money in it for Medicaid?
And that's how we were going to rebuild roads and bridges and schools and have shovel ready jobs by having more money for Medicaid in States.
And now, like all other areas of the porculus, the money's running out.
And the states don't know what to do.
So they're spending more.
Tracy Gordon, a researcher at the Brookings Institution who specializes in state budgets.
Boy, what a career that is.
Thank you.
Imagine getting up every day and saying, This is what you got to do?
Yeah, I'm gonna go and study state budgets.
Said that there were signs of progress, nevertheless.
The growth in Medicaid enrollment is slowing, and states have had six straight quarters of revenue growth.
Still, she said state revenues remain at least six percent lower than pre-recession levels, and the states are projecting a total of 46 billion dollars in budget shortfalls for the fiscal year that'll start next July because the stimulus is uh is ending.
Uh she said that one option nobody is pushing is another round of federal stimulus spending to help us out.
I really think it just boils down to the federal government's budget challenges, she said.
And in this environment, I think additional aid to the states just isn't gonna be forthcoming, but that's the solution.
We just need more stimulus.
We need more money for Medicaid from the state.
Wait till you see Obamacare.
Uh, Ms. Gordon when that when that gets implemented.
Well, you see what kind of uh problems the states will be in then.
Uh let's see.
A guy at PJ, I guess Pajamas Media.
Terrorism researcher by the name of Patrick Poole is reporting that Mohammed Elibiary, an appointee on Obama's Homeland Security Advisory Council, is in hot water with the Texas Department of Public Safety.
The issue is whether this guy used his privileged access to a state law enforcement database to acquire intelligence reports and then tried to shop them to the media, urging that they showed rampant Islamophobia at the Texas Department of Public Safety under Governor Rick Perry.
So a regime employee.
A regime employee at Homeland Security got hold of some data at a state law enforcement database and was shopping it to the media, hoping to get them to use it against Governor Rick Perry of Texas on the basis he's an Islamophobe.
Mr. Poole said that no story was published because according to one press source, there was nothing remotely resembling Islamophobia in the leaked reports.
But that didn't stop the guy.
The Obama regime guy still tried to shop reports.
He said, hey, look at this.
Perry's an Islamophobe.
And he shopped at the and the media took the stuff, obviously.
But they didn't run it because they said there's no Islamophobia here.
We don't see any Islamophobia.
Now, this guy, L. Bierry, you'll be stunned to learn, was on the Obama Department of Homeland Security working group on countering violent extremism.
That's the group, the brain trust that helped devise the new Obama counterterrorism strategy that envisions having law enforcement pair back their intelligence gathering activities and take their marching orders from community partners.
Let me run that by you again.
This guy, Mohammed Elabieri, who went to the database in Texas, tried to find some info on Perry, got some info on Perry, then shopped it to the media, trying to get them to run stories on Perry being an Islamophobe.
The media didn't because the database didn't have any such information.
This is the same guy who was in the Department of Homeland Security working group on countering violent extremism.
He devised a a new Obama counter-terrorism strategy that envisions having law enforcement pull back their intelligence gathering activities and take their marching orders from community partners.
So what that means is that this guy for Obama told the cops and local law enforcement, don't do any investigations.
We'll tell you who the bad actors are in the neighborhood.
We'll tell you who the security threats are.
We will tell you who the terrorist threats are.
You stop looking for them.
And of course, the purpose of that is so the regime can make sure that the real terrorism culprits are not identified.
Make no bones about this.
That's exactly what this is.
And this is the guy trying to shop non news, fake news about Perry being an Islamophobe to the media.
It's open line Friday, and that means we focus a little more on the phones, and that can be good or bad.
We never know.
Davis, Michigan is our next attempt.
This is Mike, you're up, sir.
Great to have you on the program.
Davidson, Michigan, a suburb of Florent.
I'm a rush geezer.
Um a few months ago asked what was the difference between a communist and uh current day Democrat.
I did.
Yes, that was about two months ago.
I asked that I uh I don't ask questions, I answer them.
Well, you had a thought anyway.
You you had mentioned it, and I thought of two things that are different between a communist and today's Democrat.
You just said that because you want to call and tell us the answer, but I didn't ask that question.
Well I'll tell you what I think the answer is.
Okay, what I knew that's what was going on here.
I I use that technique a lot.
Well, um, secure his borders and support his military.
And a an American liberal won't.
Communist will will uh uh protect his borders.
And so and support his military.
Right.
The only two differences I can see between a Democrat and a communist.
Hmm, interesting.
I wonder if it would be any other differences.
Those are two key differences.
A Democrat will not protect the border and will denigrate their military.
Communists, you're right.
That communists do protect and that not only they protect their borders, they enforce them and they uh and they support the military.
In fact, they turn their countries into third world countries in order to have first world militaries.
That is pretty good.
I'll take it.
That's a pretty good uh uh pretty good distinction.
And it ought to embarrass the Democrats.
Well, I know it won't, but it ought to.
I mean, they're out there trying to be good communists, and look at there are two examples of how they're failing.
David in Nashville, your turn.
Open line Friday.
Hello.
Hey, Rush.
First, uh thanks for letting this lovable amateur um chime in.
This is the second time I've gotten through in my life, and it is uh a throughout a lifetime.
Well, I'm glad you made it.
You you have made some great points about how the media sort of helps create um some of the issues and create some of the stories, and it reminded me back when I was in high school, I had a social studies teacher who was a um he had been a student at Kent State and was there when the protests went on and when they burned down the ROTC building and things like that.
And he shared with us that that when the ROTC building was burned down, he said it was like watching a a movie or a TV commercial being filmed where the students tried to burn it down one time and it didn't start, and so then they went to the news media and said, okay, we're gonna try it again, and so you know, it was like, okay, roll the cameras, they tried it a second time.
It it didn't it didn't light.
On the third time, the news media actually stepped in and gave them advice as as to as to how to get the building to burn.
Didn't work the third time, and then the fourth time, again after getting uh input from from the news media telling them how to start the fire finally on the fourth time it started.
And he said, back in those days, NBC knew how to blow up trucks on their uh on their uh uh dateline show.
Uh ABC knew how to uh uh infiltrate grocery stores and make things look like they weren't what they weren't.
Um so the fact that the media would help the Kent State people start a fire all for the purposes of having a story.
That uh I'm not surprised at all.
Right.
What it did for me though, it it gave a valuable learning lesson.
Anytime I see something on the news, I I question it and I think, okay, who who's really behind it and what's the story that's really behind it?
And you you do a great point.
I I try to spend the first thirty day thirty minutes of my lunch every day listening to you so that way I really know what's going on.
Well, that's wise.
That is very it it uh the news media is very seductive because it's so consistent from network to network, from newspaper to newspaper.
The news in ABC, CBS, um, NBC, New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, USA Today, it's identical.
And therefore it's consistent.
And in you s when people see a news story treated identically in so many places, they just have to assume that that's actually what happened.
That's actually the truth.
When oftentimes it isn't.
And I think you're very wise.
I think everybody ought to be suspicious and questioning, curious and doubtful of everything they see in the media for that very reason.
So I'm glad that you have your sensitivities tuned that way.
Thanks very much.
Uh, where are we headed next?
Ron in uh in Prosper, Texas.
You're next on Open Line Friday.
Hi.
Love your show, Rush.
Thanks for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
You rush so much of the uh media and talk shows uh try to frame uh the problems with our country, whether either good or bad, uh, based on, you know, Democrat, Republican, liberal conservative.
And uh the problem that I have with it, I I think our country is uh we've got a real moral or we don't call ethical problem.
Every time I turn around, you know, I'm the today in the news was the railroad workers, you know, frauding uh one billion dollars out here in Texas, it was a big real estate thing and a bunch of uh twenty to forty people from lawyers all the way down, you know, it was twenty two hundred million to a bank.
You know, George Bush didn't tell these people to uh defraud the country.
And so much of it, like I say, labels don't mean a lot to me.
I I think that you know, whether you're a made off and you have access to a billion dollars and you steal it, or you're a janitor and you steal a dollar, uh, you know, it's still the same.
you do it no matter what.
And so I think our country is in trouble simply because we don't have our values have really degraded.
And uh, you know, I could go on and on, but and I'd like to get uh your opinion on that.
Well, it's been the case for a number of uh years.
Uh in fact, multiple generations.
There's there's no question that there's been a uh a moral and cultural decline uh purposely waged.
The left wants no judgmentalism.
The left does not think anybody is qualified to sit in judgment of them.
They don't want they are qualified to sit in judgment.
But I don't think there's any question about that.
Standards have been obliterated and have been blurred.
This has led to uh a lot of a lot of confusion and and a sense that there's really nothing that's really wrong anyway.
Explanations for everything.
Back to the phones open line Friday, Etontown, New Jersey.
Hi, Ed, great to have you.
I'm glad you called, sir.
Welcome.
Thank you, Rush.
Uh, Dr. Rush, that is.
I appreciate you.
I'm here to talk about politics.
And specifically, when we passed the uh deficit ceiling a few months ago, we put triggers into it in case they couldn't come to an agreement.
Politico's reporting today that the weaper of the House, Banyer, and the Democrats are trying to come to an agreement, take out all these uh triggers.
Why this is so upsetting to me is I know the answer to the Medicaid problem that you talked about before.
And it's all wound up with the amount of our deficit.
Specifically, when states pay Medicaid, they charge three or four times than it actually costs them out of pocket, and they get 50% back from the federal government.
So if they're increasing their budgets for Medicaid, they're actually getting more money from the federal government to fund things.
You get it, you go for a band-aid in the emergency room, they bill you a thousand dollars.
Costs a hundred bucks to actually provide the service.
This is why the deficit plan was so significant, and now we're seeing the Republicans uh caving in on it, apparently.
You know, I'm glad you brought this up.
I had it in the stack and I forgot that it was there.
Uh but you're you're right for the uh for the most point, uh, for the most part, the um the Republicans and the Democrats are are trying to get rid of some of the obstacles that they were forced to put in their own way during the last debt ceiling debate while nobody is uh is looking.
And what they what they don't understand is that everybody's looking, and everybody's noticing.
And the Tea Party is not shrinking in size, nor is it shrinking in its passion.
And I th this this is uh this is not gonna go down well.
I'm well aware of that.
The other thing is if you ever get to the uh OWS on Wall Street, you better hold your nose because there's violations of air quality.
You can't believe the smell.
It's like being in the middle of a garbage dump.
You are you are these guys running around, they they look like urine, they smell like urine.
Uh they're they're uh it is a pig's dye.
I know.
It's a total of 100 percent pigs die, and of course that doesn't matter.
You know, the mayor says you can't smoke except they can.
The mayor says you can't sleep overnight in a park except they can.
The mayor says you can't pollute the city except they can.
I want to make one more comment.
What is that?
What is that one more comment?
Ninety-eight percent of all the people that work in financial services in this country are good people.
The small number of people that created the problem in mortgages are the uncredible minority.
And allowing the president to just desiccate on all these good Americans work very, very hard.
It's upsetting to me.
Well, what's the difference?
Look at Amen.
Amen.
But that's true of every business the Democrats have on their enemies' list.
Everybody in big oil is a creep.
Everybody in big pharmaceuticals are creep, everybody in big retail's a creep.
Hell, everybody in a corporation is creep.
You know, you ought to really tick off a liberal.
You want to really tick them off.
You say to them, Oh, wait a minute, what is a corporation?
It's just people.
They just go ballistic.
Because in their minds, a corporation is not people.
A corporation is the embodiment of spiritual evil.
Maybe not spiritual, but it is because they don't believe in spiritual.
But they a corporation to them is not people.
You tell them that all it is is people.
It's your neighbors.
There are people that work for the corporation.
And if he and a lot of people who work for the quote unquote corporation don't like it either.
They think they're underpaid.
The same things happen in corporations that happen in any other organization of human beings.
You have everything that happens in every club in every group of people happens in a corporation.
But they have this mental characteristic in their head of a corporation that's superhuman, that it's all powerful, that it is robotic, and that it's evil.
Now, the first, I want to go back to the first story that you talked about with the triggers and how the Republicans and Democrats are trying to erase the triggers after the obstacles that are in their way to further spending.
And you got to keep in mind now this story is in the politico.
And I've I know some of the guys politico, and I'm not mean to be impugning the politico, but it's it's clear that the politico is uh got sympathies toward Obama and the Democrat Party and so forth.
But this story in the political makes it sound like the Republican leadership, John Boehner, uh, who you call the weaker of the House.
I I I caught that.
Story in the political makes it sound like the Republican leadership is afraid that another standoff over debt will hurt the Republican reelection effort.
It is the same thing.
And the reason that the Republicans, if the politicos right, and I'll add that as a caveat.
If the politico is right, the Republican leadership doesn't want another debt ceiling fight because they're afraid of the uh impact it'll have on their reelection effort.
It's it's simply because they continue to believe that the only media that matters is the quote legacy or mainstream or drive-by media.
And if the drive-by media is critical of them, then that that's all that matters.
Doesn't matter who else would be praiseworthy, it doesn't matter who else might be critical.
If the drive-by is a critical of the Washington Post, New York Times, you take it, name it CBSNBC.
If they're critical, oh, can't have that.
They uh they think that they have to use those people to get their message out.
They think those people have to approve of what they're doing, if they're going to survive.
Uh it's it it it it's frustrating as it can be.
And it's all it all centers around the independence.
The media inside Washington, the establishment media, along with the establishment everybody, tells the Republicans the independents really don't like you opposing Obama.
They don't like you opposing spending.
The independents want this country to recover.
They want the economic uh recovery to happen, and they want federal spending to hand.
It's it's just they get away with with um putting fear in these people's hearts each and every time they try.
That's the political story.
That's what as you read it.
It sounds like that the Republican leadership is is afraid that if they have another debt fight, they'll lose it.
The media will be critical of them, and they'll be accused of wanting to be hard-hearted and cold-hearted to the poor and the hungry and the thirsty and the suffering.
And they don't want that said about them.
And it will hurt their reelection efforts.
So they choose the path of least resistance, which in this case is whatever the Democrats and the media want.
If it's more spending, fine.
And we'll do what we can to make it look like we are not opposed to it.
This is how ridiculous it's uh getting.
Last night on the MSNBC, Barney Frank showed up.
He was on with uh with Al Sharpton.
And Sharpton said to him, House Republicans keep saying that they have ideas for jobs.
Are they credible?
No, they are literally doing the opposite of what virtually every economist except for a handful on the right think, which is at this point, you should not Be further retrenching government spending.
In every month for the last year, the private sector has gained jobs.
And the public sector has lost jobs.
Firefighters, public works employees, teachers, cops have been laid off.
So again, there is an overwhelming consensus that the short term, if this comes from Bush appointees like Ben Bernanke at the Federal Reserve, you need to do some things that stimulate.
Never stops, does it?
Never stop.
Why every day cops are being laid off.
Every day firefighters are being laid off.
Every day teachers are being laid off.
And guess where all the jobs are going?
Private sector.
Yeah.
You've seen all those private sector jobs created, haven't you?
You may have gotten one.
Yeah, yeah.
It's the private sector getting all the goodies, the public sector getting screwed.
And so we need more stimulus.
We need more federal money to go hire these precious people.
By the way, speaking of this, you know, we talked about Ohio and their election on November 8th.
And there are two really important issues on that ballot.
One is issue two, the other is issue three.
Issue two would uh replicate what happened to Wisconsin vis-a-vis state employees, unionized state employees, take away some collective bargaining rights that would require them to make modest contributions to their own pension plans, like you and I do.
We have to contribute to our own 401ks.
Now the news out of Ohio is that the unions are going to win this one slam dunk big time, but apparently that is not true.
An internal memo from a key labor backed group in Ohio is flatly warning that the polls that are being reported now are flawed and that a big win for labor is not even remotely possible.
It adds this this this memo, this internal memo, adds that the conservative messaging has worked and that there's good reason to suspect that a massive amount of voter confusion remains, suggesting that this thing is still wide open and go either way.
They're trying to say that the union is going to win this thing in a slam dunk, and it's not.
A big win for labor is not even remotely possible.
It's close.
It's crucial.
Issue three on the Ohio ballot on November 8th is also crucial.
Very important.
That issue, that ballot initiative basically states that Ohioans will opt out of any federal mandate to buy health insurance.
And that is key.
That has to pass.
That will send a message to the United States Supreme Court.
It'll send a message to a lot of people.
If that goes down to if it was put this way, if the state of Ohio does not opt out of the federal mandate, I can guarantee you what the news is going to be.
The news is going to be here's a swing state, very important to the presidential race, could go either way, and those people want Obamacare.
That's what's at stake with issue three.
If the people of Ohio do not pass issue three and reject and exempt themselves from the Obamacare mandate, then Katie Bardador, it isn't going to be pretty.
And it could very well have influence on the Supreme Court ruling.
The regime is asking for a very fast ruling on Obamacare.
And Supreme Court justices, they pay attention to public opinion polls.
Don't doubt me on this.
They pay attention to election results.
And if there's a swing vote in the Supreme Court, and that justice happens to see that people in Ohio had a chance to reject the mandate, had a chance to exempt themselves from Obamacare, and they didn't.
Could be the end of the line.
Something to keep in mind.
We'll keep you posted.
It's still a couple weeks away.
Well, less than two weeks away.
It's a week from Tuesday.
But issue two, issue three in Ohio, very important.
Got to take a break.
We'll do it.
Be back and continue before you know it.
Open line Friday rolls on Rushlin, boy, as usual.
Half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
Harry in Portland, Oregon.
Great to have you on the program.
Hello.
Thank you.
Been trying to get to you for years.
Here you are, your big showbiz break.
Yes.
Um I wanted to challenge you thinking about alternative energy a little bit.
Uh I'm I'll be 68 pretty soon.
I start thinking about alternative energy in 65.
Nowadays people call it green energy, and it I don't like it.
Bad idea.
But alternative energy means that you can buy a piece of property that's out in the country, away from power lines, and you can have a home, and you can have power, and you don't have to worry about paying thousands of dollars to get a power line brought to your house.
You can be totally self-sufficient.
I've lived off the grid a couple of times in my life.
Uh the first two times there were no PV panels, so you did it with uh, you know, you used kerosene lanterns and wood stoves and wood heat, and it's comfortable.
You have batteries for uh radios.
But uh with I I've boondocked for about five years, which means living in a camper traveling around where and you don't stay in RV parks, you just stay in the desert or wherever you want.
And you I had a PV panel on the top of the camper and kept our batteries pretty well charged up.
You can have a small, probably for you to be very small, like a cabin in the woods or someplace, and you can provide about ninety to ninety-five percent of your needs with uh say a thousand watts of PV panel and a small wind charger.
Uh you have to have a battery bank and you you use a generator that runs on propane, the same as your refrigerator and your stove and your heat.
Uh, and you chart you run your generator maybe once a week to pump some water and to top off your batteries and to do your laundry, and then you shut it off again.
So, you know, there's a there's a need for it.
People are Yeah, but being off the grid is not what the American left means by green energy.
What the American what what the what the left means you if you want to live that way, that that's absolutely fine.
Just don't make me.
And don't and don't and don't pass laws that make me have to live that way.
If I and don't tell me I can't have my 14 foot TV screen if I'm willing to pay for every aspect of it.
But if you want to live that way, that's fine.
The American left doesn't want me to have my 14-inch or 14-foot screen, nor anything else that I've got.
The American left wants to force a backwards 20th century, 19th century lifestyle on everybody under bogus hoax concerns.
Review?
Yeah, I I understand that, and I don't agree with that either.
I'm I call myself a Christian libertarian.
Yeah.
Uh I've been.
Actually, the American left would not like you.
You'd be being off the grid, they can't control you.
I that's why I like to be off the grid.
Yeah.
I don't even have a computer.
I I worked for many years on a computer as a draftsman, electrical draftsman, and I I finally had to quit doing that because I have chronic migraines, and starting at a computer really aggravates migraines.
So but anyway, I I just wanted you to think that, you know, about the fact that there is a place for what I call alternative energy.
Well, it's just not a mainstream.
We're just talking different definition of the term.
Your alternative energy is not at all what Obama's talking about.
Obama wants to put the coal industry out of business, for example.
Obama wants everybody driving lawnmowers with a couple seats on top of them.
Or the equivalent.
Obama and the Democrats want everybody losing their freedom and liberty to make the choice of how they want to live their life.
And they green energy is just you know another diving board to get into that cesspool.
That's all it is.
Folks, I hope you have a wonderful weekend.
We intend to here at the EIB Southern Command, and we'll be back Monday, revved and ready and stoked to kick off another brand new week of broadcast excellence, dealing with whatever nonsense happens between now and noon Eastern time Monday when we get back.
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