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Oct. 11, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 11, 2011, Tuesday, Hour #3
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And the pressure mounts on your host, El Rushbaugh, to do something.
And I respond to the pressure.
I was made for this.
I am Rush Limbaugh doing what I was born to do.
Great to have you here.
Telephone number 800-282-2882, the email address lrushbaugh at eibnet.com.
Let's see.
Oh, is this Eric Holder's press conference?
He's got a plot.
There's a plot to kill the Saudi Arabian ambassador of the U.S. was foiled.
He's going to announce that.
What a way, what a great way to sidestep the fact that he's being delivered a subpoena on Fast and Furious.
Daryl Issa is going to subpoena Eric Holder, according to Cheryl Atkinson, CBS News, to testify about what he knew when about Fast and Furious.
They found 100 more guns.
American-made guns in the possession or American-sold guns in the possession of drug cartel members in Mexico.
So here comes Holder.
What nice timing.
Give him something to distract everybody away from Fast and Furious.
That's exactly what this is all about.
Some plot to kill the Saudi ambassador to the U.S. Who is that?
That's that Abdel Jameer, baby.
Abdul Ahmad Rockbell's psych.
I forget what his name is, but what great timing.
A Mexican cartel.
A hundred more weapons found.
No question in my mind what Holder's press conference is about.
Okay, Romney, let's take our last call and got to put things in perspective here.
Romney was governor of Massachusetts after the Olympics.
We have something more recent to judge Romney on than the Olympics.
When he ran for governor of Massachusetts, he ran to the left of Ted Kennedy.
Now, he's moved more toward the center, but he instituted Romney care.
He has attacked Rick Perry on calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme.
It's all a matter of public record.
And Social Security is a Ponzi scheme.
And countless elected and unelected people have said that it is.
All we're doing here is discussing at length the background of all of these candidates, Newt, Santorum, Bachman, Kane.
But now, no, no, no, we can't talk about any of that with Romney.
We just, we got to go ahead and we got a nominator.
Now, what's the latest Romney's newest backers, ABC News The Note?
New York Congressman Michael Grimm, who's backing Romney, said Republicans just put aside their ideological differences and back the candidate who has the best chance of beating Obama.
This is Michael Grimm in New York, who is backing Romney, thinks New York could choose the former Massachusetts governor over Obama in 2012.
This guy said, yo, Romney could win New York.
So let's put aside our ideological differences.
Now, note, here is a Romney supporter who says, in order to go ahead and select Romney as our nominee, let's put aside our ideological differences.
I don't know what that tells you, but what it tells me, it says, okay, conservatives, shut up.
This is the wrong time to start picking a nominee based on ideology.
We got to pick a nominee based on something else.
This is the perfect time to pick a nominee based on ideology, given what we're up against.
Folks, there's almost a crying, desperate need to pick somebody on the basis of ideology now.
Because it is ideology that will win.
It is ideology that will beat Obama.
Not mush.
Not moderate, not middle ground, not any of this.
Put aside your ideological differences.
I don't know what that says to you, but the message to me is, okay, look, look, let's just drop the conservative stuff and let's just go ahead.
They're admitting that Romney's not a conservative when he says that.
I don't know if Michael Grimm intended that, but that's what he's saying.
Mr. Grimm and the rest of you, I'm going to just tell you, give you a little clue, Mitt Romney will only win by being conservative both in the primary and in the general election.
If we once again nominate somebody who thinks because of the precious independence, and they might lose them, and they got it attacked to the center in the general election, you are going to blow it.
You are going to blur the differences between our guy and Obama, and that's not what we need.
We need a very wide line of demarcation that stresses the differences, not mushes them, not waters them down.
I've been telling you, I don't know for how long the Republican establishment just doesn't want conservative for whatever the reasons.
I'm tired of going into them.
Now, it's one thing to personally, viciously attack one of these Republicans, which I'm not doing, and I haven't done.
But it's quite another to honestly discuss during a primary cycle the merits and demerits of a candidate based on their record and their public policy.
That's permitted.
That doesn't violate Reagan's 11th Commandment.
Now, you can call here and tell me that I shouldn't talk about these candidates certain ways.
I shouldn't give my opinion about the politics of a situation or something.
I mean, that's not going to happen.
I am going to tell you who I am.
I'm not on any of these campaign teams.
I'm not being paid by anybody.
I have a responsibility to you, as I always do.
Audience always comes first here.
And by that, I mean I have an incumbent responsibility, to be honest with you, on substantive issues.
That's what I do, and I'm not going to silence myself.
It's an urgent time like this.
I mean, look at what we've had today.
Show you what, and I'm not trying to gent up sympathy for me.
I'm just trying to illustrate here.
On the one hand, I'm being told to meet with the candidates and pick one and then rally the troops.
On the other hand, I'm being told, look, don't say all this stuff about Mitt unless you're for him.
Don't say all this stuff.
I mean, he's, I call myself Mrs. Limbaugh at the dinner table, but I'm not going to do that anymore if you don't be quiet about Mitt.
Okay, so on the one hand, I'm supposed to meet with the candidates and pick one and go for it.
On the other hand, I'm supposed to shut up.
Now we got Michael Grimm, a New York Congressman, saying, let's stop the primary process, put aside our conservatism, and pick Romney.
That's what he's saying.
You conservatives, drop it.
Check your conservatism at the ballot box when you go in there.
I wonder if Michael Grimm is aware the last time a Republican won a landslide in New York.
Who was it?
Snurdy?
It was Reagan.
What was Reagan?
Yeah, he ran as a conservative.
Yeah, proud conservative.
Reagan ran as a proud conservative.
Last Republican to win a landslide in New York was named Ronald Reagan.
Very ideological guy.
And we were not told to check our ideology at the door there.
What an amazing thing to say.
Put aside their ideological differences.
I'm just telling you, Romney is not going to win by going mush.
He's not going to win by following the prescriptions, if you will, of the Republican establishment.
Not going to win.
If you try to blur the ideological differences between us and Obama, Obama will win.
Okay, here's that poll I mentioned earlier: the Gallup poll from October 2007.
And here's the headline: October Gallup poll has Obama-McCain down by double digits, the same point in the campaign as we are now.
McCain was at 16% in October of 2007.
You know, who was leading the Republican nomination this time in 2007?
Take a wild guess.
I'll bet nobody comes up with it.
I'll bet nobody comes up with it.
Rudy Giuliani at 32%.
Fred Thompson was 2% at 20%.
John McCain in third place at 16%.
Romney in fourth place at 9%.
Huckabee in fifth place with 7%.
Ron Paul in last place at 2%.
And on the Democrat side, Obama was also down by double digits to Clinton and Edwards.
Clinton was Hillary's.
He was near 50.
Edwards was around 28, and Obama was at 11.
This time, 13 months out.
Now, given that, keep in mind here, we've got everybody telling us, let's just put it all to bed here and let's just drop our ideology, put it aside, and let's just go ahead and nominate Obama.
Romney.
Let's just go ahead and nominate Romney.
And our eventual nominee at this time in the 2008 campaign was McCain at 16%.
And what changed, I'll tell you what changed, was West Virginia and Florida.
That's what happened.
That's where McCain teamed up with Huckabee.
Giuliani bombed in Florida, and Romney and Huckabee teamed up in West Virginia to give McCain Romney's supporters there.
And then, of course, Charlie Crist endorsed McCain in Florida, and that was it.
But it was the primary process that flushed all of this out.
And look what's happening now.
Republican established, hey, this is going to run.
Put everything aside here.
We have our nominee.
We need our nominee now.
We need to get going on this.
Okay, Steve in Sudbury, Massachusetts.
Welcome to the EIB Network.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
You know, it's extremely odd as a longtime listener to your show that you so far have said absolutely nothing about Sarah Palin's announcement not to run last week.
I mean, the fact that you've said nothing is very, very curious.
Really?
You know, what does it tell you?
What are you thinking about that?
No, I could only speculate that maybe there's something going on behind the scenes or with Palin or maybe you don't want to muddy the waters.
But what you said today led me to believe that if Romney was anointed very early, then it would be a lot of movement to get Palin in there, whether a draft movement or there'd be time to get her in to counteract Romney.
But maybe, like you said this morning, that the Democrats are trying to keep the Romney thing battle going for a while, Romney battle going for a while by releasing the Romney Care, Obamacare connections, and by having Herman Kaine.
So it looked like there's a battle going on, so Palin won't be able to enter.
She'd only be able to enter if it was clearly Romney was the only choice.
Well, I don't know about that.
I just this isn't, if I haven't mentioned it, and I have to trust you, if I haven't mentioned it, it's clearly an oversight.
I just wasn't surprised that she wasn't going to run.
When I heard that she had made the announcement on my buddy's radio show in LaVinci, it did not surprise me at all.
I never thought she was going to run.
That's very curious.
No, I never, it wasn't the profile.
I've always thought that she was setting herself up to do something entirely different.
But I think I was right.
Well, do you think that there was a draft Palin movement or a brokered convention or some other means she would come back in?
No idea.
I've spoken to her twice, both times when I interviewed her here on, I think, on the air once and for the Limbaugh letter about her books.
Well, I'll tell you one thing.
I don't think so, though.
From what I've seen, there's such a dissatisfaction with Romney by conservatives that you're going to have another replay of the McCain people staying home unenthusiastically, regardless of what you say.
Okay, now we throw a third monkey wrench into it.
Okay, so here we go.
You pick it.
The only way we can win is if you pick a candidate.
No, I'm not saying that.
No, wait, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm not criticizing you.
Then the other person says, stop criticizing Romney.
Now, you come along and say, I don't matter what you do, you can't change voter turnout or enthusiasm.
So I'm hearing the gamut today.
Well, you know, the Eisenhower election, Eisenhower was drafted by other people.
So maybe we can have a replay of Palin can come in like Eisenhower if there's no clear majority at the Republican convention because we're going to need Palin.
There's nobody else out there.
Well, look, I wouldn't hold out hope for that because she never put together any kind of an organization.
She has a different kind of organization.
She has a with the in the age of the internet, she has thousands, tens of thousands of unpaid workers unorganized that will go out there and fight for her.
She's different.
It's a different, to say that she doesn't have an organization that's like apples and oranges doesn't apply to her.
Well, you may have a point about that.
I have a friend who is just crushed, just crushed.
He believed, a friend of mine in Hawaii, that the only chance this country had was if Palin ran.
She's the anti-Obama.
She's the clearest difference from Obama.
I don't disagree with you about that.
And I can't tell you how frustrated I got and still get when I travel around and I have friends scattered all over the country, and I've got quite a few of them, particularly the wives, who just hate her.
They just hate her.
It is beyond rational.
There's no way I can talk to them about it.
Well, that's incidental to the story.
I'm hoping there's something going on behind the scenes, some kind of strategy that others get her to come back in.
That's what I'm hoping.
Well, I wouldn't hold out, hope for that.
She made a pretty public splash.
Well, I know there are a lot of people that have signed petitions and that are out there pushing for her, that really want her, that need her.
I think she's probably right.
She doesn't need a title to be effective, just like I don't.
The title.
She does.
That's not true.
I think, you know, and the reason she gave for not running, that her family, well, I guess on Mark Levin, she said that it was her family.
And then on later on, Greta Van Sussern, she says, well, because she wants to spend time helping Congress.
I can't believe those are real reasons because those reasons were.
What do you think is the real reason?
I think one of two things.
Something happened in the 11th hour that the Republicans just made it clear that there's no way she's going to get in through conventional means.
And she said another thing.
Yeah, that would have fired her up.
Well, but she can't get in through conventional means.
She's got to go in through the side door some other way.
Well, that's what you want her to do.
Well, I want her to be receptive to a draft palin movement.
Well, you can.
I know a lot of people would.
Okay.
And maybe that's what she's waiting for.
Now, you don't like the fact that she's pulled out.
Is there somebody in second place?
Well, obviously, Kane would be the only other one.
But like you said, Kane doesn't have the money.
Well, you're awfully puzzled because you're calling here.
I think you need to be told this, Steve.
You are calling her.
You are openly questioning Sarah Pala's judgment.
And yet you want her to be president.
I would want to carefully review her words.
What she said was she's not running for the GOP nomination at this time.
That's right.
So maybe if other people push her to go in or at some later time or even a third-party story.
There's no shortage of people that were begging her to run.
Well, but now with her out of the race, you've got different dynamics.
If she was in the race, you wouldn't be focusing on Romney like you are now.
Now with her out of the race.
Look, they've got practical things like filing deadlines coming up.
Some are within a week now.
So I think it's time to move on.
I think it's time to let go.
Move on.
Back we go to the Fawns, the EIB network.
This is Tarek in Fort Lauderdale.
Nice to have you on the program, sir.
Hey, Rush.
How's it going today?
Very well.
Thank you.
Well, I was just calling because as a 25-year-old, you know, working full-time at our family business, I am just truly appalled by these kids in New York City.
And some of them are adults, I'm sure.
But they just make all of us look bad.
I mean, defecating on cop cars, sleeping out there in the streets, smoking weed, whatever they're doing, drinking.
My buddy was in New York City.
He saw him carrying 12 packs on their shoulders to party.
How are you?
Are you then that?
You that age, around 25?
Yeah, I'm 25 years old, you know, and working hard every day with a college education.
I went to the most liberal school, and the only thing that got me through it was you.
Yeah, well, thank you.
I appreciate it.
I was fighting them every day.
We were fighting the liberals every day.
I was in school in New Hampshire, so you can only imagine.
God bless you.
I'm going to tell you what the real opportunity here is.
I just mentioned, see if you agree with this.
Just mentioned in all this hubbub here about the Republican establishment urging us to set aside our ideology and just support Romney.
I'm looking, and I open the show with this.
Look at some of the signs these 25-year-old kids, as you call them, are parading with down there.
And it's clear that many of them are conservatives and don't know it.
I mean, they're complaining about how much they make and how much is taken by taxes.
And one guy's complaining about all the destruction to his business since 2008.
What's he doing?
He's down there joining this protest.
These people are confused.
The ones who are at least thoughtful are just totally confused.
And what we need is somebody who can speak to them.
The problem is, Rush, is that they all go to college and they pay their 50 grand a year and they're all told that when they get out of college, just because they went to college, they're going to get a $100,000 a year job.
And they don't have to do anything to deserve that job.
They don't need any skill set.
They don't need any common sense.
They just need to go and show up to college.
And then the day they graduate, here's your $100,000 job.
That's what they honestly believe.
And when they get $52,000, they're pissed.
No, I don't doubt that that's true.
It's not just college students in that age who have these expectations.
But I agree with you.
Their minds are being corrupted.
Oh, yeah.
I had the liberal influence on us.
I mean, since I was a kid, I went to school here in Florida.
I mean, Earth Day, you know, every year, it just goes on and on.
They just push it on you every day.
Recycle this, recycle that.
It's brutal.
Yeah.
And you think, how is it possible for any of us to come out and be conservatives after all that brainwashing?
And it comes down to the parenting.
Well, I know a lot of it does.
A lot of it does.
I just, you know, the whole, the whole, like the null labels crowd.
These guys that want to run around and say, well, we don't want to be tied to any labels.
If it weren't for labels, most people wouldn't be liberal.
You realize, look at these kids.
What do they want out of life?
Now, some of the people are freeloaders, and some of them just want it all handed to them.
And some of them genuinely hate capitalism and hate this and that.
That's what they've been taught.
But some of them down there are really worried about their future.
They are worried about there being no future for them.
They're worried that there isn't any opportunity for them.
And the sad thing is, they're more right than they are wrong if you couple the way they think and what they've been taught.
There clearly is no future for them if they continue to support people like Obama, the Democrat Party, and the union movement and all of this.
The solution for these people is conservatism.
The solution for these people is capitalism.
And it's in there.
You can see it in some of them.
It's going to take somebody who can talk to them and explain this to them, but people are going to muddy the waters and try to tone down the ideology.
Being liberal is a cheap status symbol.
I've often said it's the easiest thing in the world.
It's the most gutless choice you can make.
All you have to do is look at some suffering and say, oh, God, that's horrible.
And you're a good liberal.
You don't have to do diddly squat about it.
You just have to see it.
And then you have to have the ability to blame somebody else for it.
It's a cheap status symbol, is what liberalism is.
Especially in the minds of these young idealist wackos down there.
Anyway, Tarek, hang in there.
You keep at it.
I'm glad you called.
People like you are going to be instrumental in ultimately making a huge difference.
And I mean a real difference in a positive way.
Well, apparently Charlie Rose was on a CNN program.
I think it was a CNN program.
Read this briefly and indicated that the debate tonight, large amount of time will be spent asking the Republican candidates about Occupy Wall Street Now.
And the reason is that not one Republican has come out in solidarity with the protesters while Obama has.
So Charlie Rose said, we're going to really hound these Republicans about Occupy Wall Street Now protests during the debate.
I think it's from the BusinessInsider.com website.
Here's Kim, Jacksonville, Florida.
Hi, Kim.
Great to have you here.
Hi, Rush.
It's great to talk to you.
Thank you very much.
I just wanted to say real quick that anybody who's supporting Mitt Romney really needs to rethink about it because Romney is the white Obama.
I mean, he is, the liberal media is trying to pick him.
The Republican establishment is trying to pick him.
And the only reason why is because he's the most liberal of all the candidates.
And, you know, he's helped raise money for Planned Parenthood.
He doesn't want to return to Reagan policies.
He said that when Reagan and Bush were in office, he was an independent.
He has no desire to return to Reaganomics.
He's got Obamacare, basically.
Under his administration, he advocated taxing the rich and raising corporate taxes.
He supported gun legislation.
I mean, he sent attack teams to search out and dig up trash on Sarah Palin.
I mean, I'm really trying to see how this guy is any different than someone who's affiliated with like moveon.org.
This guy is a liberal up and down.
And when I vote in 2012, I don't want to have to choose between tyranny and diet tyranny.
You know, my family came here in the 1730s.
My relatives were friends with Madison and several presidents.
And I'm not about to watch my country go to crap while some liberal gets nominated on the Republican ticket again.
Because I guarantee you, people will stay home.
People did it when McCain was elected or nominated.
They stayed home because they weren't about to vote for somebody like that.
This guy is no different.
And I think, in addition to what I told Sternley, I think they want Romney because he's exactly the same as Obama.
So if you like Obama, you might as well like Romney.
Why would the Republican establishment want somebody just like Obama?
Because they're all liberals, too.
I mean, what is John Boehner doing?
What has he been doing since they got in there in January?
I'm not really seeing much change that we voted for.
People went out in mass droves and voted for Tea Party candidates and voted for conservative candidates.
And this guy isn't really doing anything.
They're letting him get away, Obama, letting Obama get away with every single thing he does.
They don't come out and attack.
You know, this is the thing about the liberals.
They go out and they attack us consistently every single day.
And, you know, the Republican establishment just sits back and they take it.
Meanwhile, I suffer.
My family suffers.
Your family suffers.
We all suffer.
This is not America anymore.
We have crony capitalism.
This is not capitalism anymore.
This is what people decided we should get.
Okay, so we can firmly put you in a non-Romney camp.
Who are you for?
You know, I don't really like anybody that's running right now.
Well, then what are you going to do?
You know, I mean, I'm going to vote for somebody.
I'm going to have to pick somebody.
I like Herman Cain, but I don't like his 999 plan because it establishes a federal tax.
And I think, you know, right now it's 999, but 10 years from now, it's going to be 20, 20, 20.
You know, I mean, I don't want to see roots that hold like that.
But other than that, I like Herman Cain.
I've talked to him on the phone several times on his radio show, just like I'm talking to you.
I know he's a good guy.
But, you know, I kind of like Newt Gingrich, but it's passed.
You know, I don't know if he'll be able to live that down through the general election.
Well, that's a point.
My green candidate is Alan West.
That's who I love.
Well, but he's not running.
He's not running.
Look, when you've had conversations with Madison and the boys, there isn't any of these clowns that are going to match up.
Yeah, I know.
So what do we do?
Because this is the problem I think most conservatives have.
What do we do as conservatives when we have to choose between tyranny and less tyranny?
Do we just ride it out and hope for the best?
Well, no, it's not quite that bad, I don't think.
The charge here is you're putting me in a really tough situation here.
But Obama has got to be defeated.
And it's, Kim, really to say that Romney is just Obama light is a bit much.
I understand he's not a conservative, and I know that he's not pleasing to a lot of conservatives, doctrinaire and otherwise, but he's not Obama.
We've never had anything like Obama, and we don't have anybody on our side that's like Obama.
I understand the dilemma that you face.
I face it too.
Not even Reagan was perfect.
And it's a frustration.
I agree with you about the Republican leadership.
I know exactly what you mean, a 2010 election returns and what they were, and nobody capitalizing on them.
It's on the Republican side, it's frustrating.
But that's not a surprise.
You know who they are.
You know what we're up against.
And as much as I'd like to say, it's up to these people to win support and get votes themselves.
They have to do it.
The Keynes, the Newts, the Bachmans, they have to do it.
They can't be put over the finish line by cheerleaders.
They have to do it themselves.
I learned long ago that that's the case.
Nobody can come in here and make this radio show number one but me.
People can't make you listen to me by telling you you should listen to me.
You have to do it and enjoy it yourself.
It's that simple.
They have to get their votes in the same way.
Thanks for the call.
Say, folks, the networks are going nuts with this sawdie plot story.
These kind of plots seem to be uncovered fairly regularly, but they're making a huge deal out of this today.
I think part of it is cover for Holder on Fast and Furious, but probably maybe helping to boost Obama burnish his foreign policy credentials or terrorism credentials or something because it's really out of proportion with the way this thing is being reported.
Have a wonderful rest of the day.
Debate tonight.
Tell you what matters tomorrow.
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