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Oct. 10, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 10, 2011, Monday, Hour #2
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It is our number two of the Monday Columbus Day Rush Limbaugh Show.
Rush is back tomorrow, and I'm just thrilled to have this one day to fill in and say hi to everybody from down here deep in the heart.
It's kind of funny.
When I first started filling in, like March of 08, it was George W. Bush's Texas because the former president, once he became the former president there in January of 09, moved to Dallas, just about 15 miles east of where I sit right now.
And I guess the last couple of times I've referred to it as being Rick Perry's Texas, which it still is since he is still governor, has been for a whole long time.
But this hour, I'll start to share a thought or two about what the heck happened to Rick Perry.
I mean, it wasn't supposed to go like this, was it?
Telephone is 1-800-282-2882.
1-800-282-2882.
And maybe I'll share a little bit of that right now.
Let's begin with that and talk a little bit about what the expectations are for tomorrow night's Republican debate.
And we can go from there.
We've had a lot of talk about the Occupy movement and what the heck those people are up to and various other things from the weekend gone by.
So always go to rushlimbaugh.com, even when the guest host guys are in, and check things out there at rushlimbaugh.com.
But to the phones here in just a moment.
The last time we were together, I want to say Governor Perry had just gotten in and there was a big splash.
And I told you all the things that I really liked about him.
And that's a long list.
And I told you the couple of things that I was not fond of that had come out of his head.
And it turns out they are exactly the things that have caused him a little bit of trouble on the campaign trail and on a debate stage.
There was the Gardasil Initiative, which was an idea that all the adolescent girls in the public schools would get this HPV vaccine.
And the vaccine would be something you could opt out of.
But I said at the time, and I told all of you, that this is something that is a parent's decision.
This is something that a parent should be able to go get for, parents should get for their daughters if they wish.
It's not something that should be a public school mandate.
Public schools are government.
So that was my thought.
And I disagreed with the governor about that.
The opt-out, and it was a really easy opt-out.
You'd basically go to the school and say, guess what?
I don't want that for my kid.
And boom, you're done.
Now, that doesn't make it okay.
That doesn't make it a good idea, but it made it far from the most onerous and horrible, jackbooted example of expansionist government to ever come down the pike.
The other thing is the in-state tuition for the children of illegal immigrants.
Yeah, this one's a problem.
It encourages future illegal immigration.
We should be doing everything we can to dissuade that next generation of would-be illegal immigrants from coming along and bringing the kids with.
That's what we need to be about.
We need to have laws that dissuade that, not that encourage it, and some might even say reward it.
But about Gardasil and the in-state tuition issue, I've said for years on the local show that I do here in Dallas-Fort Worth, and I'll tell you right here, these are disagreements I have with Governor Perry, where I see his point.
I don't agree with it.
In no way do I think the Gardasil initiative means that he has a whole laundry list of obtrusive government things that he's going to do if he just gets the chance.
No, he was wrong on that one thing.
Now, does that mean that he needs to be looked at with particular precision?
Like, okay, what other little mandates might you have up your sleeve?
That's an okay question.
And if there are any, he needs to tell us what they are.
And on the in-state tuition, which is preferential treatment, it is a subsidy for the children of illegals.
I disagreed with that.
Told him so.
Told everybody so.
I'll tell you so.
But I do not for a minute believe that this means that Governor Perry is a total softy on the border.
Now, he is not a Tom Tancredo Duncan Hunter style border warrior, never has, never will be.
He will never embrace Jan Brewer's Arizona, you know, Senate Bill 1070 there.
He's just not, he's more interested in securing borders to protect us against international gangs and people to get their heads sawed off in Juarez and stuff like that.
That's the kind of border warrior Rick Perry has been as governor.
And I think that's the kind of thing he's going to be worried about as president, not so much the waves of illegal immigrants coming across and taking our jobs, the sort of mainstream Republican objection to illegal immigration.
So this is my way of telling you that these are a couple of things where I wish he was more conservative.
All right.
But doesn't everybody have that?
Lord knows there's some stuff that I wish Mitt Romney were more conservative on.
Lord knows there's stuff I wish John McCain was more conservative on.
There was stuff I wish Huckabee was more conservative on when he was running.
I don't know if I'll ever find somebody who is exactly as conservative as I am and everything.
I'll tell you what, Herman Cain might be that guy.
He might well be.
Then you get into the is the current Herman Cain phenomenon for real.
I mean, it's real right now.
He is one of the three guys who deserve to be called frontrunner.
And he outdistances Perry in some of the polls already.
Now, you keep that up in a variety of polls for a couple of months, and that's how you know you are for real with a capital R and not just kind of a little trend, a little bit of a fad here in the early fall.
So that'll be up to him.
I'm sure he'll be great on the debate stage tomorrow night, and we'll see if he can keep those poll numbers up.
But on my Governor Perry rant, I mean, I'm like, he's like batting 900 with me.
I mean, if I really, really thought that he was a complete softie on the border, and listen, and let me be frank with you about this.
He's actually right about the wall.
I want to be, I said, I am a keep them out, deport the ones we find kind of illegal immigration hardliner.
But you ever been to the, you ever been to the border?
You ever been down there?
There's hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of miles of wall where there may not even be scorpions.
I mean, they're bereft of living things.
And some of the border needs an actual tangible wall.
Other parts, I mean, we got drones.
I think we still have jeeps.
I think we still have border patrol agents.
And it is a compendium of all those things that can make for an effective border.
An actual, you know, 2,000-mile border, a 2,000-mile wall.
You don't have to do that.
You can, I guess.
I don't know if that's the most cost-effective way to do it.
And I don't know if that's the most effective way to do it necessarily.
You can climb over a wall easier than you can escape a drone and a jeep and a border patrol officer.
So anyway, this is my way of telling you that I don't believe that Gardasil or even the in-state tuition for the kids of illegals is what has spelled Governor Perry's bad few weeks.
Not by themselves.
Anybody writing the narrative that everyone's discovering that he's a phony conservative.
Everybody's discovering that he's just not as conservative.
Okay, that's part.
That's part of it.
That's part of it.
You know what the biggest part of it is?
Being terrible in the debates.
Just not getting it done on the debate stage.
I'm looking at him and I'm saying, who is this guy?
I've been around you for 15 years, Governor.
Where are you?
Are you tired?
Are they running you ragged?
Are they not prepping you well?
What is the story here?
Who has abducted Governor Perry and replaced him with this thoroughly unimpressive guy on the debate stage?
What is going on?
So I'm going to tell you something.
I think he's going to be a lot better tomorrow night.
God knows he couldn't be much worse.
I think he's generally surrounded by good and smart people.
If anybody asks him about climate change, maybe we could Google the names of a few actual climate, man-made climate change skeptics.
That would be good.
And I think that the reason for this, the reason why this has spelled some trouble for him in the polls, is you know what we're looking for?
We're looking for a lot here.
We're looking for a lot here.
We are looking for someone with a strong spine, a proud conservative heart, a strong conservative mind.
You know what else we're looking for?
You know what else we're really looking for?
Someone whom we can imagine on a debate stage with Barack Obama taking it to him in a strong, civil, constructive, impressive way.
I can see Herman Cain doing that.
I can see Mitt Romney doing that.
I can see Newt doing that.
The Governor Perry of the last couple of debates, not so much.
So he's got to get out there.
I mean, it's funny.
Here's my debate advice for Governor Perry: get out there and be good.
Get out there and be good.
Be the kind of candidate where people who have never voted for a Republican in their lives can look at you and go, wow, you know what?
That guy makes sense.
And he seems to have a demeanor that says, I'm ready for this gig.
That's what you got to do, sir.
That's what you got to do.
Now, get out there and do it, please.
Let me give you just a couple of things that I enjoyed playing earlier this morning on my local show.
I said, you know, Herman Cain's going to be great.
And I do not know.
I don't know how this is going to go for him.
This could be something that's really very, very nice for a little while, but then it's going to be either Romney or Perry, and the Herman Cain thing will run its course.
Or maybe not.
Maybe this is the birth of something truly remarkable, where a candidate who's very much unlike anything we've ever really seen before, who has a certain comfort in his own skin, a certain confidence, a non-politician's appeal from the Values Voter Summit.
Let me just share this with you.
Because this was tremendous.
Somebody asked him, hey, Herman, why are you running for president?
One of the other questions that I often get as I close, why are you running for president?
to be president I'm not running to go to Disneyland.
America has problems.
I'm a problem solver.
That's why I'm running.
How do you not love that?
So, what we've got to see here is the love for Herman Kane, which is very, very real.
Will it translate as the months pass and it really becomes time not to just say who we like or oh, isn't that great or wasn't he great in the debates?
No, no, no.
It's going to get much more serious.
And I mean soon.
Can you see, well, we'll ask this about, you'll ask it about Romney if you're a Romney person, about Perry, if you're a Perry person, Kane, Gingrich, Santorum.
Anybody still love Rick Santorum?
He was great at the Values Voter Summit.
Can you see this guy or gal?
God bless Michelle Bachman.
She is still technically in it.
Can you see him, her, as the leader of the free world?
And if that question winds up being yes, that's the kind of candidate that can win Iowa and New Hampshire and Nevada and Florida and the nomination.
So I know there's some inevitability stories being written about Mitt Romney.
And you know what?
Then maybe that's the way it's going to go.
It may well be.
If I'm in Vegas, Romney's probably the nominee.
If I'm standing there at the sports book and that's, you know, and I've got, hey, here's 10 bucks, put it on somebody.
Sure, might as well.
But let's see how Perry does in the debate.
And let's see what happens with this Herman Kane phenomenon.
Let's see.
Remember, it is still October of 2011.
And it is the Monday Rush Limbaugh Show.
Mark Davis filling in.
Board your calls next on the EIB network.
It is the Monday Rush Limbaugh Show, Columbus Day Edition.
And I believe this literally is the case.
I heard the Friday show and Rush said, Dog on it.
I'm tired of everyone having Columbus Day off.
I want it too.
And so his day off is certainly my gain.
And I know that we all crave the days when he's actually here, but all of us on the Rush Limbaugh Show bench strength are so appreciative of the kindness and consideration that you give us when we are here, whether it's Mark Stein, Mark Belling, Walter Williams, all the good folks, and we're just very, very, very honored.
Alrighty.
1-800-282-2882.
Let's, you know, do we want to 60 seconds about Columbus?
It's Columbus Day, dog on it, 60 seconds about Columbus.
I know when he sailed the ocean blue in 1492, he did not exactly bring with him the sensitivity of Alan Alda.
I know, I know, I know.
I also know that he did not discover America.
You can't discover a place where people already are.
Okay?
I mean, it's, you know, even if there is, we didn't discover the moon and there weren't any people there.
We knew it was there.
We put human footprints there.
I know, I know, I know.
But what he did do, what he did do in those voyages is open this continent to the Western world, the European world.
Now, there are thriving cultures everywhere at the time, just as there are thriving cultures here.
European cultures, and I don't use that as a euphemism for white.
If I mean white people, I'll say white people.
I mean the continent of Europe.
Indian cultures, Native American cultures were thriving and existed.
African cultures thriving and existing.
Asian cultures thriving and existing.
But for the voyages of Columbus, though, what would North America be?
Would the explorers have then followed?
Would there have been the colonization of America?
Would it have been turned into the United States of America, the greatest society the world has ever known?
I dare say no.
So I know there are all kinds of unpretty pictures you can paint.
And the 15th century was kind of a barbaric time in a whole lot of ways.
In the 16th and the 17th and much of the 18th.
I mean, enlightenment is a slow process.
But when we look at Columbus, you know, through sort of the Phil Donahue glasses, he's not going to come off well.
But within the context of the time and with his achievements of the time, they are remarkable and they deserve proper regard.
And the fact of the matter is that the real Columbus Day, which is, what, day after tomorrow, October 12th, the actual anniversary of the sighting of land in this part of the globe, that if that hadn't happened, well, first of all, if that hadn't happened, maybe somebody else would have tripped over America in 1507 or 1545.
I mean, somebody probably at some point was going to get here from that part of the world.
But because Columbus did, we have America today.
So I'm grateful.
And I know that through the entire history of the country and manifest destiny and all of that, I mean, I know, I know, I know it is not a story of 100% kindness and Christ-like behavior and nothing but big thumbs up and hugs all around.
I know.
Find me a country whose history is not filled with all manner of some occasionally hard to some things that are hard to look at, especially when viewed through the sensitivities of the modern day.
But I guess what I'm looking at is, I don't mind.
I do not in any way mind if, for example, it's kind of funny.
A lot of kids are off school today.
I don't mind if kids are told that by today's standards, you know, Columbus was not, you know, the most sensitive of souls.
But I want to make sure that those kids are also told that there is a difference between the ethos of today and of 1492.
And also to have some appreciation for what the explorers plural did in opening up this part of the globe for the people who actually had the gifts, the technology, the culture that resulted in the United States of America.
Is that asking too much?
Is that too nuanced?
Is that something a teacher can manage to get through?
I hope so.
I hope so.
Maybe I'm asking too much.
All right.
Well, so much for the Columbus segment.
Well, there we go.
Here's another false promise of something I'm going to get through quickly.
Here's a promise I got to keep.
Here comes a quick pause and back with another promise.
I'll definitely keep more of your calls.
1-800-282-2882.
Mark Davis filling in for Rush on the EIB network.
Don't anybody move.
People, real people on the radio.
Next.
Stick around.
And he's very grateful for that, by the way.
Indeed so.
All righty, 1-800-282-2882.
Mark Davis from WBAP Dallas, Fort Worth, seeing what's going on around the country and sometimes maybe even outside the country.
Hey, thanks, Mr. Internet, the occasional international listener.
It is with great pleasure that we head to Oxfordshire in the United Kingdom and give a big shout out to Ray.
Hello, sir.
Mark Davis in Farush.
How are you?
Good evening, sir.
Trust your Monday goes well.
It is great to have you.
I understand from Greg back at screening headquarters that you're actually an Ohioan.
Yes, sir.
I am an Ohioan and I am visiting over here and have been from August.
And what's going on over there?
What's up?
Oh, not a whole lot.
It's cool.
It's a very rural part of England that I'm in.
Is it your first year?
You've done a lot of UK visiting, or is this your first?
This is actually my fourth trip to this part of the world.
Are you a fan?
Scepred aisle, as they call it.
And you like it?
Oh, yes.
Me too.
Guy, what's going on?
What you got?
Well, I've been looking at this Occupy Atlanta video that's been released, and there's a couple of things that really jump out at me about it.
John Lewis had to be absolutely disgusted.
I mean, he walks, he wants to speak to this crowd, and this crowd cheers when he is not allowed to speak.
And he walks away, and he's like, why am I involved with this crowd?
Why did I want to speak to this bunch?
Well, it had to be disillusioning.
I'm sure he arrived with the full expectation, if not of adulation, then certainly acceptance.
And instead he runs a risk.
And he's a recognition of his achievement.
Of course.
And a certain ideological kinship because he hates the private sector as much as the average Occupy Atlanta attendee.
So why wasn't there love in the room?
And I mean, the answer to that is because the Occupy Atlanta folks, like the other Occupy movements, are an ideological mishmash that is probably more hung up on the procedure and the hippie vibe than they are in anything that's actually coherent.
I'll tell you what scared me about it.
It felt like a twisted, distorted, 1984-esque version of one of those old-style call-and-response church services.
Well, I'm a fan of those in some context, but I know what you mean.
There was an odd kind of animal farm vibes.
Very animal farm-esque.
Yeah, indeed, indeed.
Well, listen.
Well, Ray, it is a pleasure.
How long are you going to be over there doing the Oxfordshire thing?
I will be back on my side of the Atlantic in November.
Well, be sure to call the show then, and Rush will thank you, and so will I if I'm guest hosting.
Appreciate it, and best to you.
And a happy dinner hour over there in the United Kingdom.
All righty, next up, we are in Hazlitt, New Jersey.
Carl, Mark Davis, in for Rush.
How are you?
I'm good, Mark.
How are you?
Very well.
Thanks.
I just wanted to speak as a registered Republican about the Occupy Wall Street movement, and I am actually in favor of it.
And it's not to punish success, as many have planned.
It is, in fact, to punish Wall Street's failure.
They have failed miserably, and if they hadn't, they wouldn't have required taxpayer-funded part money in order to stay in business.
I will bet that at the nucleus of every Occupy movement crowd are people who for whom that is true.
But it has sort of attracted.
There is an accretion process by which other people are drawn to it who absolutely are of the class warfare movement.
And so it kind of depends on where you go within a given crowd.
And also, I just wanted to point out that there is a Republican presidential candidate who I am supporting who will be joining in the protest tomorrow.
He has announced this today.
Well, I'm waiting with bated breath.
Who might that be?
That would be Buddy Romer, former governor of Louisiana.
He's the only candidate who is both a congressman as well as a governor.
And he's got my full support.
He doesn't take any special interest money.
His campaign is completely funded by the public, and his limit is $100 per person.
And that's the kind of candidate I think many of us could get behind.
Well, good luck with that.
And I don't mean to be snide.
In fact, I'm going to give me 60 seconds of why former Governor Romer, who was a really good guy, he was governor of Louisiana there from sort of during the Bush 41 years, right?
Like 88 to 92.
What is it about what earns your affection in that regard that you just don't have for anybody else in a still crowded field?
I think the main thing is the fact that he leads his campaign the way by example, by not taking any special one, Chris is going to be looking out for the middle class, people who actually earn their paychecks.
And what does that mean?
In what way will he, because these are big platitudes and I just want to look at who all the other candidates who were, who are they getting their campaign money from?
You got GE, who has paid zero income tax, federal income tax, and these corporations who send U.S. jobs overseas and pay basically less than the preference guy.
Are Herman Kane and Rick Santorum getting huge corporate contributions?
I'm not really familiar with where their contributions come from.
Well, then be careful before you say your guy is the only one who's not getting them.
Okay.
But ideologically, is there anything that Governor Romer brings to the table that excites you?
Well, he is a conservative, like myself.
As is pretty well everybody out there on that debate stage tomorrow night, for the most part.
Yes, yes.
Did you live in Louisiana at the time?
I think the biggest, the other point is he believes in fair trade, not free trade.
Okay.
I get you.
I get you.
And yeah, he would put an end to that.
All righty.
Well, listen, I know he, and where, and where, for those, it's the Governor Romer segment now.
Where will he be?
Is he up in New Jersey where you are doing something tomorrow?
He will be in Wall Street.
I'm not sure the exact location of the story.
He has announced that he will be joining in the protest.
He will not be speaking.
Yeah.
But then can I ask it?
Let me, boy, okay.
Then last observation.
Last observation.
The first thing that occurs to me is if someone is running for the, well, I don't know, you know, maybe there's genius in this because if someone is running for the Republican nomination, an Occupy Wall Street rally might not be the smartest place to show up.
It might not be the smartest thing, but it's the most honest thing.
And he's been supporting it before it was even in the headlines.
And you know something?
As soon as I said that, it's like there was another part of the sentence that was required.
It may not be the smartest place to show up, dot, dot, dot, unless you want to portray yourself as being pretty different than the existing field.
And if that's what Governor wants to do, I think you'll succeed.
And I appreciate your call.
I know he appreciates the support.
Thanks for being on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Mark Davis, filling in, 1-800-282-2882.
We've talked a lot about Atlanta.
Might as well go there.
Why don't we?
Steve, Mark Davis, in for Rush.
How are you?
Hey, how are you doing today, buddy?
I am good.
Doing a great job on the show today, by the way.
Thank you.
After reading the list of demands and, you know, some of these Occupy groups and, you know, there's a lot of it that's, we want this, we want that, we want guaranteed this, and we don't want to have to work for it.
I've come to the conclusion that these people are basically bipedal parasites.
They're not occupying anything.
They are infesting places.
And from this day forward, I think they should all be referred to as what they are.
They are the flea party.
Oh, goodness me.
Or flea baggers, if you will.
Flea baggers.
All right.
Very good.
Listener comedy taken care of.
Not bad.
Not bad.
Thank you, Steve.
Yeah, alrighty.
100-282-2882.
All right, let me offer you the following as we head into our next segment.
So I'm doing, you don't have to have a talk show to spend a whole lot of time watching the Sunday shows, Fox News Sunday and State of the Union on CNN and Meet the Press and Face the Nation and all of that.
Boy, you know what?
This actually resonates with, wow.
I'm sorry, I've started three sentences at the same time.
I'll do that from time to time.
Remember either one or two times back when I was guest hosting and everybody was climbing up one side of Chris Wallace and down the other on Fox News Sunday because he had asked Michelle Bachman the are you a flake question, right?
And I joined you, most of you, in saying that, you know, don't adopt the narrative of the left in asking a candidate whether she is or is not what she is portrayed as by people who hate her.
You know, and Chris Wallace went into his cubby and filmed an internet apology, but then called her personally, which was graceful, gracious and gallant.
And so that was fine.
And that all pretty well went away.
But that was a toe stub in Chris Wallace's Fox News Sunday history.
So I'm going to offer you the following and tease the following upcoming bit of audio.
I tend to be, I love the show, obviously.
And there's some people you just kind of get a feeling.
I've been around Chris Wallace exactly once in my entire life.
He was just thoroughly decent.
And I just, there's a good guy vibe that comes off of him.
Every time I bring him up, though, I'll get emails or calls or something where there will be something that Chris Wallace did at some point a month ago, a year ago, three years ago.
Maybe he asked a challenging question to a candidate you like.
I like when he asks challenging questions.
I mean, a Republican candidate had better be able to withstand an interview with Chris Wallace if he plans on standing on a debate stage with Barack Obama.
You better be able to handle a tough question on a conservative news channel if you expect to go toe-to-toe with Ahmadinejad, okay?
So I'm really tired of hearing people, Chris Wallace asked a tough question.
I want him to ask tough questions.
Okay?
That having been said, and I don't pretend, well, actually, Chris Wallace probably does drive around listening to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
But maybe when the fill-in guys are on, he finds other stuff to do.
So Chris and everybody at Fox News, if you're listening, let me just offer you the underpinning.
The default setting is I love that show and I love Chris Wallace.
But what he did to Rick Santorum yesterday made me want to throw a brick through the screen.
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Now, for crying out loud, get to something substantive.
Here we are.
So I'm watching Fox News yesterday, which I always do, watching Chris Wallace, whom I love, watching Rick Santorum, whom I really love as well, right?
Just a great guy.
Been around him a lot.
Wish to God he could get some traction.
Let's see if that happens, and that's fine.
So they're talking about don't ask, don't tell, right?
And Senator Santorum has made no apologies of the fact that he considers homosexuality to be incompatible with military service.
Now, there are a lot of places you can go and ask some challenging questions about that.
That's fine.
This is not.
I want to put up a quote for you.
The Army is not a sociological laboratory.
Experimenting with Army policy, especially in a time of war, would pose a danger to efficiency, discipline, and morale and would result in ultimate defeat.
Does that sound about right, sir?
Roughly yes.
That's a quote from Colonel Eugene Householder, who was in the Army Adjutant General's office in 1941 arguing against racial integration of the military.
Really?
Really?
You ever watch either a debate or an appearance by a candidate and just want to somehow Star Trek transporter beam yourself into them?
And listen, Santorum doesn't need that for me because he's great.
He's great all by himself.
Lord knows it's happened watching Governor Perry in a couple of debates with me and I hope that stops soon.
But the first thing I would have told, or well, it's not like you can coach in advance for ridiculous traps like that.
But the first thing I would have done if I were Rick Santorum is as soon as Chris Wallace is reading me those quotes, the Army is not a sociological laboratory.
It's a danger to efficiency, discipline, and morale and would result in ultimate defeat.
In fact, let's go back to the exact way that he couched this.
I want to put up a quote for you.
Stop right there.
So he's sharing a quote with me and then asks me to embrace that quote.
Guess what?
No.
I would have said, Chris, I don't know what you're up to here, but my views on don't ask, don't tell are ones that I will put in my words.
So I'll use my own words, thank you, to describe my position on anything rather than having you ask me to embrace or somehow show approval for some quote from somebody else that might not even be about what I was talking about.
And oh, by the way, that's exactly what this was.
Listen, coming from Bill Maher or something, I could understand this.
But Chris Wallace?
Now, someone can feel any way they wish about don't ask, don't tell.
They can think that homosexuality is compatible with military service or that it's not.
But the suggestion that blackness and gayness are so identical that to oppose one is as intellectually vacant as to oppose the other, that's just stupid.
That's just stone-cold stupid.
Now, Rick Santorum, to his credit, moved on from there and said, look, they're two totally different things.
That if it's 1941, when Colonel Householder was scared to death of integrating the troops, there is nothing whatsoever about blackness that was a proper cause for alarm or hesitation.
There's just no reason to be against it except you were freaked out by black people.
All right?
Now, there are a lot of people who are freaked out by gay people.
I recognize and understand that too.
But there is something behavioral that makes homosexuality a bit of a sticky wicket when you're sleeping and showering with people.
We don't let men and women sleep and shower together.
Why?
Because the notion of sexual attraction in the showers or in the same barracks is problematic.
Well, if it's problematic man-woman, it sure is shooting problematic man-man.
That's what the problem is.
So listen, I'll continue to love Chris Wallace, and I offer this with all love.
Cut that out.
What the heck were you thinking with this throwing up the householder quote and luring Santorum to embrace that and make it look as if objecting to gaze in the military in 2011 is just like objecting to the integration of the military in 1941.
That is just absolutely, intellectually vacant and beneath Fox News Sunday and beneath Chris Wallace.
And I say that with all love.
Love the show.
Love him.
If I didn't care, I wouldn't say this.
Okay?
Okay.
Yeah, I've only done talk shows for about 30 years.
Only guest hosted for us about, I don't know, 20, 25 times over three years.
Got so worked up there, forgot about the clock.
Whoopsie-daisy.
Anyway, all right, everybody.
Let's do one more hour together.
It'll be an adventure with all of us.
Mark Davis in Farush on the EIV Network.
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