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May 6, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 6, 2011, Friday, Hour #2
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Yeah, I saw that.
The CIA had 40 people over there in that neighborhood for what, five months?
Long time.
So the CIA gaze, in other words, this was a long-planned operation, planned down to the nth degree with 40 CIA people as safe houses all over the place collecting intel, preparing for the operation that got bin Laden.
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Okay, with the aid of a lot of people too numerous to mention here, it's the composite here of having read everything.
Here are the various claims and versions of the story of the raid.
There was a firefight.
There wasn't a firefight.
Osama was resisting.
He wasn't armed.
The SEALs thought he was reaching for an AK-47 at arm's length that remained at arm's length even after he heard the chopper land.
And after he heard the first shot.
First shot took place on the first floor.
Osama's up on the third floor.
The AK-47, he's in his underwear or pajamas or some such thing.
He used his wife as a human shield.
He didn't use his wife as a human shield.
His wife was killed.
There were three wives in there for six months, along with him in there for six months.
They accused us of torture.
He didn't use his wife as a shield.
She ran at a SEAL who shot her in the leg, but she's okay.
Some other woman was used as a shield by somebody downstairs.
Don't know what she was.
She was killed, but maybe she wasn't.
But who was she anyway?
Nobody knows.
Bin Laden's son was killed, unless it was some other guy.
Bin Laden's daughter saw him get killed.
They were going to capture Bin Laden until the problem with a helicopter, which was mechanical trouble.
It did a hard, soft landing.
It crashed.
It clipped a wall with a tail rotor.
And it had to be blown up.
Parts of it were just carted off by the Pakistan military.
They never were going to capture him.
It was a kill mission all the way.
No, it wasn't.
It was a kill mission from the get-go.
No, it wasn't.
They were going to capture him.
The chopper blew up.
No, the SEALs blew it up.
Panetta said the pictures would be released.
Then Obama said they wouldn't be released.
Panetta said there wasn't any video in the situation room.
Hillary said, no, I wasn't frightened about what I was seeing.
Are you kidding?
I just had an allergy problem.
Yeah, Obama was in there.
We got him off the golf course.
He's wearing a golf shirt.
We found him an Air Force Windbreaker to put on in the situation room.
In the 60 Minutes interview with Steve Croft that's going to be broadcast on Sunday.
So the picture's not going to be released.
It would offend Muslim sensibilities, which he worries about a lot.
Now, this has been asserted.
A blogger here by the name of JJ, and I don't know his last name, but he asserts that Croft, in the interview with Obama, pointed out that ever since Blackhawk Down, Muslims have been doing precisely that.
Filming American bodies being dragged through the streets, filming Daniel Pearl's head being cut off, filming anything and everything.
And apparently, Obama got really mad at Croft when Croft pointed that out.
And so CBS cuts that from the interview, and we won't see it.
This is inside information.
Can't vouch for it, but it is being asserted.
Of course, we got a treasure trove of stuff from the hard drives, but there was no internet access.
There were no phone lines.
And there was no television.
But there was a giant satellite dish in the backyard.
What was that for?
If there was no phone and no television and no internet access.
And then yesterday, if he was naked, we were going to capture him.
And then if he was naked, that meant he wasn't armed and so we could capture him.
But if he had any kind of clothes on, it meant we had to shoot him.
I mean, this is what it has been.
This is the degree to which this story has changed.
And that's really just a brief outline.
From the Washington Times today, intelligence analysts are sifting through phone numbers and email addresses found at bin Laden's compound to determine potential links to Pakistani government and military officials, while U.S. officials and analysts raise concerns about the safety of Pakistan's nuclear materials.
According to three U.S. intelligence officials, the race is on to identify what Obama's top counterterrorism advisor, John Brennan, has called bin Laden's support system inside Pakistan.
These sources sought anonymity because they're not authorized to speak to reporters.
Right, but they are leaking this.
And we still don't know.
They haven't shown us a picture of bin Laden.
So the stories here have just been all over the place, and now they continue even today in the Washington Times.
Let's see, what's next?
Oh, yeah.
You've probably heard about this.
This is from WNBC, Eyeball News 4, New York.
An advisory has been sent to law enforcement officials asking them to be vigilant about train security based on information uncovered at bin Laden's mansion hideout.
Officials stress the advisory is general in nature.
The information apparently uncovered from the bin Laden mansion in Pakistan dates back more than a year, according to NBC News.
U.S. officials say they've not found reference to specific plots.
Instead, they say they found what they call aspirational items, events al-Qaeda operatives were interested in trying to make happen.
Now, I, ladies and gentlemen, am dubious that al-Qaeda and bin Laden wanted to blow up trains.
And the story says basically that one of the target dates was the 10th anniversary of 9-11.
But why trains?
We've been told, well, Bin Laden himself in various taped messages that he has released indicate he was a big believer in global warming.
Bin Laden accused this country of destroying the climate, destroying the planet.
And public transportation, that's green.
That's very safe.
That will protect.
Why would Obama blow up a train?
Osama, why would he blow up a train when as a global warming supporter, a believer, he understands that trains help save the climate?
I mean, would your average liberal blow up a train?
Bill Ayers didn't blow up trains.
He blew up Pentagon.
So I'm not sure.
I'm not sure I buy this business that Osama would blow up trains because as a global warming aficionado, you know, a train, that's something sacred.
That'd make him a hypocritical mass murderer.
Blow up people on a train.
Saxby Chambliss, this is from the Atlanta Urinal Constipation.
Moments before he died, Osama bin Laden may have gotten a brief glimpse of what was headed his way.
A bullet whizzed by his head.
That's right.
U.S. commandos missed with their first shot at the world's most wanted man as he poked his head out of a third door room in his, oh, it's a fortress now.
This, according to Senator Saxby Chambliss, the ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, bin Laden ducked back in.
The Navy SEALs quickly followed and finished the job with the now famous double tap.
The missed shot was a new detail in the emerging story of the 40-minute raid on the Abbottabad compound in Pakistan.
Chambliss said, I hope they went in there with the idea of killing him and not capturing him.
We needed to take this guy out.
And I know that that's what the executive order said.
The executive order?
The exec, folks, if that's true, this is newsworthy information because those kinds of executive orders are illegal.
Oh, yes, they are, sturdily, ever since Geronimo Ford.
The other thing you have to remember is that this was pitch dark.
When they got into that room with Bin Laden, they already had to go through some other folks downstairs, two of which they killed.
One had a squirt gun, and they were having to use explosives to blow doors open.
By the time they got to him, they didn't know what they would find.
So they blew the door open.
They looked down the hallway, and he stuck his head out of the room, and he's in.
They saw him.
He ducked back in.
They fired a shot and missed him the first time and then went to the room.
They went into the room, and that's when they killed him.
This from Saxby Chambliss.
Now, again, he says there was an executive order to take the guy out.
So now, if what he claims in this story is true, let's review here.
If what he claims is true, that means bin Laden not only heard the SEALs coming, but he saw them.
He heard them and saw them.
So why was he still unarmed?
He got that AK-47 within arm's length, but he never grabbed it, even though he heard them, even though he saw them.
So, now Saxby Chambliss is one of the three senators who was shown a fake picture of the dead bin Laden and I think initially believed it.
One of the others was Scott Brown from Reuters.
Reuters is not giving this up.
Maybe a better account than the one from Saxby Chambliss.
Only one of four principal targets shot dead by U.S. commandos in the raid which killed Osama bin Laden was involved in any hostile fire, according to a person familiar with the latest, most current U.S. government version of what happened.
The account of Monday's daring 40-minute raid has new descriptions of the event, including that Navy SEALs shot an occupant of the compound who they thought was armed, but apparently was not.
It confirms that bin Laden was not armed when he was shot dead, nor are there indications that he directly threatened his attackers, according to the first source and a second U.S. government source familiar with briefings on the raid.
So is the man they killed now say had weapons nearby the one photographed lying on a water pistol?
I'm trying to figure out who this is.
And this detailed account here from Reuters, it's kind of peculiar insofar as it skips over the most controversial part, the actual killing of bin Laden.
It says what he did as the SEALs approached him is unclear.
Saxby Chamblis says it's very clear.
Poked his head out, saw Bullah go by, missed it, ducked back in a room, SEALs followed him in, double-tap, hello virgins.
But it's really, it's hard to believe that if bin Laden had any weapons nearby, he didn't pick one up.
That's something extremely curious to me.
At any rate, we still have lots to do.
I have to take a brief timeout.
Al-Qaeda is confirming bin Laden's death, by the way.
Now, how do they know?
How do they know?
No, no, no.
How does Al-Qaeda know?
How in the world do they know?
Why would Al-Qaeda come out and say that bin Laden is dead?
How could they confirm it?
Who does that help?
It helps the one.
It helps Obama.
Plus, it gives them justification to attack us if they needed any.
The latest from Al-Qaeda is that this will result on a curse, result, a curse being placed on us here in America.
Okay, we're going to get back to the phones.
I just have on topic here one more observation that I want to make.
We have news from the New York Times.
We got news number.
AP says, by the way, you know what?
There were two factions of Al-Qaeda.
Bin Laden headed one and Ayman al-Zawahiri headed up another.
Oh, really?
That's the first time we've heard of that.
Two warring factions inside Al-Qaeda.
We thought bin Laden was numero-uno.
We thought Zawahiri was number two.
But from the New York Times, check this out.
After reviewing computer files and documents seized at the compound where Bin Laden was killed, American intelligence analysts have concluded that bin Laden played a direct role for years in plotting terror attacks from his mansion getaway hideout in Abbottabad, Pakistan.
U.S. officials said this yesterday.
My friends, this is hilarious.
When Obama couldn't find Osama, even though he promised he would, we were told that bin Laden was no longer of any consequence whatsoever.
This regime, they cannot keep their lies straight.
They can't keep their stories straight.
We were told for the last three to four years, hey, you know, dialysis.
The guy is a shell of his former self.
He's not even operationally in control.
I've heard this over and over again from this bunch.
Now, the New York Times, in an effort to build up the smallest guy in the situation room, Barack Obama, in an effort to build him up, guess what, folks?
Usama bin Laden has been at the helm this whole time.
Yes, bin Laden has to be amplified, has to be blown up, has to be made the big kahuna in order to make it look like Obama has really pulled off a major coup here.
I mean, how big a deal is it to kill somebody who's operationally kaput?
And that's what the regime said.
That was their excuse.
Eh, we're not really focusing on him that much.
It was only important when Bush couldn't get him.
Now that we can't get him, hell, he's not even a factor.
All of a sudden, we get him.
He was running the whole show with no internet and no television and no phones.
He was running the whole show.
Had a big satellite dish out there.
That's right.
Now that Obama has killed bin Laden, he was the most dangerous man in the world.
The man who shot Osama bin Laden.
Here's Bob in Willowbrook, Illinois, as we return to the phones.
Great to have you on Open Line Friday.
Hi.
Thank you, Rush.
Classic John Ford Western Ditto.
Thank you very much, sir.
Speaking of clownish debate questions, do you remember the last time a debate moderator asked for a show of hands?
Other than last night?
Yeah, the last time.
No, I just know it happens all the time.
I can't remember the last time.
It was in 2008, before the Iowa caucuses, when the editrix of the Des Moines Register was moderating debate of the Republican Hopefuls and asked a true yes or no, yes or no.
Do you believe in global warming?
And asked for a show of hands on that?
I think she either that or asked just each candidate one by one, yes or no, do you believe in global warming?
And one man had the guts to say, I'm not taking that.
I'm not going to submit to your Gestapo tactics.
Who was the editrix of the Des Moines Register at the time?
I don't remember her name.
Well, I remember one of the former editrixes of the Des Moines Register.
Her name was Geneva Overholzer.
And she was best pals with Michael Gartner, who used to run the paper.
Then he ran USA Today.
He ran NBC when they blew up the truck on Dateline to show that the truck is unstable.
NBC blew it up.
He was running the show.
And Geneva Overholzer, I remember I appeared on Nightline.
There was a Nightline forum shortly during healthcare, Clinton Healthcare, where they were lying left and right.
And Ted Koppel asked me what I thought about Puzzle says, Ted, I don't know.
When people pitching the program never tell you the truth about it, I really don't know what to believe.
She was on the panel that night.
And before we went to air, Coppel's doing his, you know, I'm in my TV studio, New York.
Everybody else is out in Iowa.
Carville's out there and Geneva Overholzer.
And she's taking shots at me before we went on the air.
Friendly chat shots and so forth.
But I don't know if she's still there or if she's in journalistic retirement now.
She had a column of the New York Times for a while.
No, this really doesn't relate to anything.
I'm just a question of curiosity.
Do you remember who it was that refused to answer the question?
Yeah, Fred Thompson.
Fred Thompson refused to answer the question.
He's the one guy who had the guts to stand up to her.
I'm not going to fall for it.
Well, it's tough to get used to it because that same technique is going to be employed.
It's all cliché, and it's right out of their handbook.
It's Open Line Friday.
We stay, therefore, with Fonzie Houston and Don.
Hello, sir.
Great to have you with us.
It was Rush.
In the president's address Sunday night, he stated that after a firefight, Bin Laden was killed and his body was taken into custody after a firefight.
Right?
That's a very important word, by the way.
After the firefight.
Not during the firefight.
Right, that's exactly very, very, very right.
I'm proud of you.
All right.
Thank you, sir.
But what's the point?
Well, the point is that it should be followed up on, just like Bin Laden's daughter says that he was captured alive and then killed.
Right.
I mean, it goes with the idea that the mission was to kill bin Laden, even if he was captured alive.
There's no look.
Let me just tell you.
Let me just.
There was no way.
I'll repeat this over and over again.
Sterdley, do you think there's, are we?
Look, it's Open Line Friday is what people want to talk about.
That's the rule.
But are we getting into fatigue on this?
Not yet.
Okay, good.
My empathy says we're not.
But I just wanted to check.
There's no way they're going to take this guy alive.
Ever, folks.
They were never, I don't care who's wearing a diaper, underwear, nude.
They were never going to take him alive.
They were never going to bring him back and subject him to their own sissy fied system of dealing with these people that they have set up.
They're never going to give him an ACLU lawyer.
They're not going to put him on trial.
They're not going to do that.
No way, shape, manner, or form.
Well, the evidence clearly bears me out here.
They're going back and forth on whether or not this is a kill mission.
Don't doubt me out there.
This was a kill mission.
Who's next?
Lee, Big Fork, Montana.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hi.
Hi, good morning.
Thank you, sir.
It's nice to talk with you.
Thank you.
I'm calling because this morning I was really excited.
I saw that in the paper that Donald Trump said he's not going to drive the pace car in Indy because he has other races that he may be getting into.
I was really excited about that because we've been members of the Tea Party for a couple of years.
We are, you know, BA degree.
We're not intellectuals.
We don't go to the fancy bus when they're on the big circuit and all that kind of stuff.
We vote.
Wait a minute.
What's that got to do with Trump driving the pace car?
We vote.
That's what it has to do with it.
Well, I don't understand.
Okay.
We are independent voters.
He is not going to drive the pace car because he has another race he's interested in running.
But that's not why he's not going to drive the pace car.
That's what it says in the paper.
Well, okay, my case closed.
Rest my case.
But what does it matter?
Are you do you like or not like Trump?
That's what I can't say.
I love Trump.
You do?
Yes, I do.
I think that he talks straight.
He talks square.
You know, Charles Crossheimer doesn't like him because he doesn't think he's presidential material.
I get it.
He wouldn't elect Truman.
I get it.
I get it.
So when you hear him say he's got a more important race to run, then you're happy.
I am.
Gotcha.
Well, let me give you a rundown.
Let me tell you what really happened here.
The race officials of the 8500 asked Trump to drive the pace car.
Trump says, yeah, I'll drive the pace car.
Then two Democrats in Indianapolis started raising holy hell about Trump being a divisive figure and a racist in all this because of what he's done with Obama and the birth certificate and stuff, and said it was impugning the reputation of the Indianapolis 500.
We didn't need to make it partisan, but a local lawyer who's a Democrat fundraiser, operative hacker, what have you.
So they started raising holy hell.
Now, I don't know if the race people went to Trump and said, please bail us out and quit.
Because I don't know.
I do not know the Indy 500 people.
My guess is they want no part of controversy or anything to do with anything like this.
They thought they were hiring a reality TV star to drive the pace car.
And then these two wackole lawyer Democrats in Indianapolis go nuts.
So I don't know if Trump just pulled out on his own to help them or if they actually asked him to.
But that, that, my friends, is the whole story.
Let's return to the Republican debate from last night.
Some other sound bites from the participants other than Herman Kaine.
Here is Tim Polenti.
The question that Juan Williams asked him, when you served as governor in Minnesota, you named an education commissioner who equated the teaching of creationism with the teaching of evolution.
Do you equate the teaching of creationism with the teaching of evolution as the basis for what should be taught in our nation's scruples?
And I ask that in the sense, do you personally equate a faith-based theory with scientific inquiry?
One, the approach we took in Minnesota is to say that there should be room in the curriculum for study of intelligent design.
Didn't necessarily need to be in science class, but we didn't decide that at the state level.
We left that up to the local school districts and the communities and parents in that area.
I think that's a reasonable and appropriate approach.
I understand, Governor, but you didn't answer my question about what you believe about teaching creationism in the schools.
What do you believe, Governor?
that should be left up to parents and local school districts and not to states or the federal government.
The Polenti people said they were surprised by the question.
From now on, don't be.
That's mild compared to what you're going to get on this.
You really believe in God?
Do you really believe that Jesus rose from the dead?
Do you really believe it?
You're going to get questions like that from these people.
Because by the time we get to the real debates, they're going to be so paranoid Obama could lose this.
They're going to be pulling out all the stops.
Don't doubt me here.
But Polenti refused to accept the premise.
So there was his answer there.
Let's move on to Santorum.
Now, remember, all day yesterday, the conventional wisdom in the drive-bys was that the Republicans just wouldn't dare take on Obama in foreign policy now.
Oh, no.
No, not after the bin Laden mission.
And they had a story, Mitch Daniels, the governor of Indiana, saying, well, I'm not even ready to take him on in foreign policy.
I don't think I'm really ready yet.
So the conventional wisdom was that the Republicans are going to take him on.
Well, they did, every one of them last night, including Santorum, Brett Baer.
Senator Santorum, you said Monday that President Obama has made the country less safe and his policies have made America's enemies, quote, less fearful and less respectful of us, close quote.
But when it comes to going after terrorists, for example, drone attacks in Pakistan have more than tripled under President Obama.
He sent 30,000 more U.S. troops into Afghanistan last year.
He just authorized, as we talked about, this mission to kill bin Laden.
How much more aggressive could he be?
If you look at what President Obama has done right in foreign policy, it has always been a continuation of the Bush policies.
He's gone right by keeping Gitmo open.
He's done right by finishing the job in Iraq.
The decision he made with Osama bin Laden was a tactical decision.
It wasn't a strategic decision.
The strategic decision was made already by President Bush to go after him.
What President Obama has done on his watch, the issues that have come up while he's been president, he's gotten it wrong strategically every single time, whether it's in Central America, Colombia, and Honduras, whether it's in the Middle East, with Egypt, with Syria, and most importantly, with Iran.
Sounds like Rick Santorum took it right to him.
Sounding like me.
This is what Mitch Daniels said that he's not ready to do yet.
Santorum did it.
Here's more Santorum.
Shannon Bream later.
Senator Santorum, you're often characterized as the most socially conservative in the GOP field.
A man who may join you at some point in the primary, Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels, says Republican candidates should, quote, declare a truce, close quote, on social issues in the next election.
Is he right?
Are you willing to tone down your positions on abortion and homosexuality in an effort to reach more voters and to help the GOP coalesce behind a more fiscally focused platform?
Anybody that would suggest that we call a truce on the moral issues doesn't understand what America is all about.
America is a country that is based on this concept on the Declaration of Independence that we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights.
Rights come from God, and the first of which is life, the second of which is liberty.
Those two concepts really transformed the world because it said that government was going to be limited, allow people to be free and to pursue their own dreams to serve their God and to serve their family and community.
And if we have a respect for human life, because we're all created equal.
And so those founding concepts, what transformed the world in this United States of America, was a belief in family, a belief in life, and the belief of dignity of every person.
If we abandoned that, we have given up on America.
So Santorum is not for a truce on the social issues.
Now, see, if you had watched this last night, I guarantee you, at the end of it, you would have been, you'd have been up.
You would have been jazzed.
It was all like this.
I mean, there were a couple of well, it was mostly like this.
It really was.
More Polenti.
This is Brett Baer.
Governor Polenti, some on the left now say President Obama's unbeatable in his reelection effort.
Why are those pundits on the left wrong?
What is his biggest vulnerability?
This morning they announced they had $6 a gallon gas in Hawaii.
We have crushing levels of unemployment.
It's almost unbearable for so many of our fellow Americans.
We've got a federal government that is out of control and spiraling towards financial insolvency.
And if you look at those facts and say President Obama is unbeatable, I just say respectfully, those polls are wrong.
He's got a temporary bump.
We can't restore America's promise unless we have a president who keeps his promises to America.
And he stood before the American people and said he's going to cut the deficit in half in his first term.
He didn't keep that promise either.
Tim Polenti last night.
See, even Snerdley is smiling in there.
You're pleasantly surprised.
Polenti is supposed to be a moderate.
Some fear he's a rhino.
Here he is taking it to Obama.
I'm telling you, they all did last night.
You'd have been jazzed if you'd have taken the time to watch it.
What are you watching, Dexter?
What was on it?
Lost reruns?
C-SPAN.
This wasn't once.
Oh, that's right.
It was a Fox exclusive.
Open Line Friday, Rush Limbaugh, the big voice on the right with talent on loan from God.
Frank Benson, Vermont, great to have you here, sir.
Hello.
Thank you for having me, Rush.
And I want to thank Mr. Snerdley, too.
My question is, our statement is that, are you there?
Yeah.
Oh, good.
My statement is that why I believe they picked Santorum as the best candidate last night out of that debate was because he's, in my estimation, an on-line Republican, excuse me.
And he plays the game because he's been noted in another question and answer period that he did have earmarks all along and shared earmarks with Democrats and that they played the game so he'd get his earmarks passed.
He'll help them pass their earmarks.
And I really think Herman Kane did a real good job there.
And in my estimation right now, so I'm leaning towards Herman Kane rather than somebody who's been there and is old lying type where they do play those games.
Right.
Right.
Well, it's very interesting.
Somebody where they don't.
In fact, you like people that don't play the game.
Is that what you're saying?
Exactly.
Exactly.
I'm a Vermont Tea Party member, and our stand is that we want people that are going to do it now, not later.
Damn straight.
Now, why in the world are we going to wait till 2016?
What's the point of waiting till 2016?
Right, Frank?
There is no, there is no, we should do it now.
That's right.
Exactly right.
All right, it's Frank in Vermont.
Frank, thanks, Inventor.
Thanks very much, Porley, for the call.
This is Jim in Las Vegas.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Hi.
Dodo's from Las Vegas, Rush.
Dildos?
Well, it is Las Vegas.
Two things.
How is it possible for us to play that we had the DNA proof in just one day?
I mean, I've seen high-profile cases involving the government where we couldn't get results within a minimum of seven days.
Well, you can't get total DNA proof in one day, but from what I understand, you can link somebody to a family.
You can link somebody to a father.
But you can't prove it somebody is specifically.
So you can say you can prove it somebody came from a mother and father, from what I understand, very quickly.
But identifying a particular person, you can't do in one day.
But that's right.
That's just another element of this.
Look at another element.
When Obama went out there on the first Sunday night, he said the raid happened a week ago.
Or the media did.
The meeting happened a week ago.
Then Obama said it happened that night.
This has been cockeyed from the get-go.
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