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Now, I was talking to Patrick from San Jose just before the top of the hour, and Patrick was saying that Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen.
And here's the point, according to Patrick, even if he is born in Hawaii, in whatever hospital that was in Hawaii, even if he was born in the United States to an American mother, as Patrick sees it, he is not a natural-born citizen and therefore is not qualified to be President of the United States.
Now, look, I'm a right-wing guy.
I'm an extreme right-wing guy.
I'm a small government guy.
I'm a seriously small government guy.
I really don't want anything from the government apart from an army defending the borders, a road when I get to the bottom of my hill every morning, and a fire department.
All the rest is a waste of time.
I don't want cowboy poetry festivals.
I don't want Medicare.
As an immigrant, I've had to stand in the Social Security office while some guy ahead of me has been blathering his sob story for an hour and a half, staring at the 58 stupid leaflets informing me of all the goodies that having a social security number entitles me to.
And I don't want any of the 58, the 57 for Heinz 57 varieties of government.
I don't want any of it.
I'm super right-wing, super small government, super conservative, and I'm not interested in attempting to prove that a man born in Hawaii to an American mother is not a natural-born citizen.
Now, Patrick mounted a civilized defense.
When the question was, here's why I'm not a bertha, here's why I'm not a bertha.
When the question was, was Barack Obama born in Hawaii, or was he, in fact, born in the coastal hospital in Mombasa and then shows up in the United States a couple of weeks later?
That was an interesting question.
And it's not like the 9-11 truthers, where it would require hundreds, if not thousands, of people to be in on the conspiracy.
Very few people would need to be in.
You wouldn't necessarily even need a conspiracy.
Peter O'Toole, do you know Peter O'Toole?
Lawrence of Arabia.
Great actor in a great movie, Peter O'Toole.
Peter O'Toole does not know whether he was born in Yorkshire, England or Connemara, Ireland.
Some people say he was born in Connemara.
Some people say he was born in Yorkshire.
This is the 1930s.
You know, we're not talking about medieval times or anything.
We're talking about the 1930s in two jurisdictions that have some of the most comprehensive and detailed and oldest records and reliable records on the planet.
And Peter O'Toole doesn't know whether he was born in Yorkshire, England, or Connemara in County Galway in Ireland.
I accept that it would be entirely possible for a man born in Mombasa to acquire a Hawaiian birth certificate.
I know how it works in the United States, where it's a matter of policy, a matter of policy by all the states, by the way.
Now, your databases are wholly corrupted with false social security numbers for all kinds of tens of millions of people, tens of millions itinerant Latin American peasants who admitted to this country and then given false documentation.
So the idea that the United States databases are not full of bunk is not something I want to argue with.
But if you accept, if you accept that the president of the United States was born in Hawaii to an American mother and you're still arguing that he is disqualified from being president and he's not a natural born citizen, then sorry, you're on a hiding to nothing.
Because nobody, Patrick wanted to impeach the president.
He wants to impeach the president for something he wants a judicial ruling on.
He accepts that the jurisprudence on this, the Supreme Court has generally taken the definition of natural born as it was prevailing in the American colonies in 1776.
Nobody was talking then about being the qualification for being head of state because the only guy who was head of state was King George III.
So the term in 1776 was natural born subject.
And natural born subject had a very clear meaning for centuries beforehand, that it meant that anybody who was born in His Majesty's realms was a subject of His Majesty.
That is when Americans became natural-born citizens after 1776.
In the 19th century, that's the definition that most of the available jurisprudence stands by.
Now, Patrick, Patrick, thinks we need to get a judicial ruling from the Supreme Court on his version of it.
His version is very interesting, and I would be interested to see how the court would rule on it.
But it's not any definition of natural born as has been understood in this republic or in the American colonies or in the metropolitan colonial power beforehand.
So it's not going to fly.
And I'll tell you why it's not going to fly.
A black newspaper association, they're called something like the Association of American Newspaper Publishers.
They're the biggest black newspaper association in the Northeast.
Just a couple of weeks ago, as Donald Trump was rampaging around, they took out a full-page ad in their newspapers to say, essentially, saying, yeah, so what?
It might be the case that this guy isn't born in the United States of America, but so what?
He should still be president.
That's what you're dealing with for a start there.
That even when there was the possibility he was born in Mombasa, huge numbers of American liberals don't care.
They don't think that matters.
Now, if you then accept that he was born in Hawaii, Hawaii, to an American mother, but he still has to be removed from office, he still has to be impeached, as Patrick says.
Sorry, you're not going to get anywhere on that.
The best outcome of that would be civil war.
I'm not necessarily against civil war.
It might be a nice cleansing, cathartic experience of the kind this country could really use right now.
But that's about the best likely outcome of that.
You're going to impeach Barack Obama, by the way, is responsible for destroying the economy of this country, destroying the credibility of the United States around the world.
He's responsible for weakening American power around the planet.
He's responsible for running up unprecedented multi-trillion dollar debt levels.
He's responsible for throwing a trillion dollars in small bills out the window with just one stupid stimulus bill.
And you think the reason to remove him from office is because a man born in a Hawaiian hospital to an American mother does not meet an invented definition of natural born citizen that you've concocted That has no precedent in the preceding three centuries of jurisprudence.
Why impeach him for it?
Everything is Barack Obama's fault except where he was born and who he was born to.
A man has no choice in that.
I didn't get on particularly well with my parents, and if I'd had my way, I wouldn't want to be born in the Wellesley hospital in Toronto.
It's a dump.
Crummy Hospital didn't particularly like Toronto.
I didn't want to be born there.
Why is that my fault?
Why impeach a guy?
Why impeach a guy for the one thing that isn't, isn't his fault?
If let's say I am a subject of Her Canadian Majesty, so I'm not qualified to be president.
Okay, I accept that.
That's fine.
Let's say the waitress down the road at the diner that I knocked up, she gives birth tomorrow to my child.
Are you saying Patrick from San Jose is arguing that that child, through nothing to do with anything he's done, is not qualified, does not meet the qualification to be president of the United States?
No Supreme Court decision and nothing in English common law before the founding of this republic recognizes that definition of natural born.
And we're talking about a country, by the way.
We're talking about a country that is sliding off the cliff so fast.
The American right needs to get real on this.
The American, I'm sorry if this is distasteful to you, to some of you, but the point is, Barack Obama is a symptom of the problem.
He's the symptom of the problem.
The real problem is that 53% of your fellow Americans voted to put him in office and trying to get him out of there, trying to get him out of there because you don't accept that a man born in a Hawaiian hospital to an American mother meets your definition of natural-born citizen.
All you're doing is letting those 53% of people who were crazy enough to vote for this fraud off the hook because you're saying to them, oh, don't worry, you weren't, it's not your fault.
It's not your fault for voting for a man with no qualifications, a man who's never run anything in his life, who has no executive experience, who has nothing going for him except that he was wafted upwards from Occidental to Columbia to Harvard to community organizing to the state legislature to state senator to senator to the president, a man wafted ever upwards without accomplishing anything.
And 53% of the American people were stupid enough to vote for that.
And you want to, and you think what matters is impeaching him because of the one thing he wasn't responsible for, which is his birth.
I'm sorry, this is nuts.
This is nuts.
This country is in an existential crisis.
And 53% of the American people who voted for that guy actively contributed to this existential crisis.
Impeaching him, impeaching him because his father was a British subject, lets that 53% of the people off the hook and doesn't address the principal problem, which is that tens of millions of people in this country actively supported policies that are dooming America.
I don't begrudge anybody who's born in this country having a shot at the American dream.
And that includes a guy born in a Hawaiian hospital to some crazy idiot Afro-Marxist loon from British colonial Kenya.
Even the guy born to the crazy Afro-Marxist colonial loon from British Kenya deserves a shot at the American dream.
The problem is that 53% of the American people voted to kill the American dream.
That is the issue.
The issue is not impeaching some guy, impeaching some guy because you happen to have concocted a definition of natural born which every American president before Martin Van Buren could not meet, and in fact, which even Michael Dukakis, Michael Dukakis' parents were born in Greece.
This is a waste of time, a waste of time, and is profoundly unserious when you're in an existential crisis.
He's the symptom.
The problem is the 53% of Americans who voted for him.
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Let's go to Rob on Long Island, New York.
Whereabouts on Long Island are you, Rob?
Which part of that island?
Hey, Mark.
How you doing?
I'm doing good.
Where on Long Island are you?
You're up in Glen Cove, Long Island.
All right.
Okay, great.
Nice part of the world.
Yeah, it's great.
Great, great.
The highest tax county in North America.
Oh, what an honor.
Do you get a trophy for that they send you with your tax bill?
You wouldn't believe it.
You know, Mark, thank you for letting me on your show.
I wanted to talk about health care as I'm a professional broker doing this for 21 years here in New York.
And I'm very, very distraught about the rate increases now for my clients here in the small business market and with no relief in sight.
And having spent eight years in a third-party administrator before there were even HMOs or networks here in New York, I speak from an insight into the business where my ideas about how this thing should be solved are very, very different than what the president passed and what Congress passed.
And, you know, if you read through the National Association of Health underwriter notes about the points of this plan where there's maximum out-of-pocket cost of $2,000, the only way they can do that is with a capitated system, which means if you really want the high-end specialist, you're not going to get that.
And what I wanted to share with you is that I really believe that the model of delivery of healthcare needs to be completely turned up on its head.
And we have to model much of what's like Priceline.com for hotels and car and airfare.
We need to expose the Medicare table so the public really knows ahead of time things like what a CAT scan costs, what it truly costs, what an MRI really is being reimbursed at by these insurance carriers, so that people can be empowered upfront.
And then I'd also argue that there are many things in healthcare, like office visits, where a specialist would, if you're off the street, would charge you $600, but on Medicare or on a health plan, he'd be willing to accept $100 as payment in full.
Things like laboratory, where they charge $450, but they accept $45 as payment in full.
But you can't, but you get to the heart of the problem, Rob, which is that nobody now, unlike Priceline.com, when you're trying to get a hotel or you're trying to get an airflight or whatever, nobody has any real idea, just to take a CAT scan, what it costs.
Nobody has any idea whether that costs $80 or $800 or $8,000.
The idea of actually putting a price on it and understanding a price on it in the sense that you have a ballpark figure for what a hotel room costs or an airflight costs has completely flown the coop in the way we talk about the medical system.
Well, what I would like to argue is that since you and I pay FICA taxes, we're actually substantiating a fund in which doctors have CARP launched to charge these codes to Medicare.
So I argue that the facilities, whether it's laboratories or radiology or office visits, the doctors, they should be posted up on the wall.
This is what I'm taking from Medicare.
And that the consumer now has armed with them the ability to say, okay, give me the best price.
What are you charging in 11542 for an office visit or for a blood test, and what's your best price?
And I could see a world like that.
I would also argue that the actuaries at the insurance companies, they shouldn't even have in the premium, even if it's a high deductible, office visits being covered or lab or forms of radiology, acupuncture, physical therapy.
There's scams off the charts that if people paid money out of their pockets, the marketplace would self-correct the fraud.
Yeah, and the market price, as you say, particularly for just a routine visit to the doctor, the market would very quickly establish a real price for that.
As you said, the market self-corrects.
But here's the problem, Rob.
The President actually addressed this when he was out on, I think it was at a fundraiser in Hollywood, and he was apologizing to these glamorous fundraisers for not doing everything that they'd wanted.
And one of the things he said was, we're not at single payer yet.
And he sees what he's explicitly trying to so jigger the insurance market to make it impossible to operate because a genuine insurance market requires a real understanding and a real evaluation of costs and risks.
And he's hoping to so jigger the market that we will have to move to a single payer system within a couple of years simply because he's wrecked the preceding system.
Well, I would argue to you that here in New York, we've got basically four major carriers and that's it.
If we did what I was talking about, I believe that you'd have a much bigger market where carriers would compete on service and you could dramatically slow these claims down and bring premiums back down to, say, 600 for families and 200 for singles with, say, three-year $8,000 deductibles.
But I would also argue, Mark, that we also need to change the tax code where rather than having the ability to only write off anything above 10% of the adjusTedros for out-of-pocket medical, you should be able to write off $1.1 at a 50-50 basis.
So again, you're invested with your care and getting primary care first, it's like going to the mall.
It shouldn't be a mystery anymore.
And that's going a long way.
And as you say, it would be nice to have complete deductibility.
You want to encourage people to look after their, to invest in their health and look after their health.
And yet, as you say, you reach a certain cutoff point where unless medical bills are a certain percentage, you're not allowed to deduct them.
But that's because, Rob, you're looking at it in ways of strengthening a private sector health system.
Obama looks at Obamacare as a disruptive mechanism that will lead to a fully socialized, fully governmentalized, and single-payer health care system.
That's what he wants.
That's what he more or less fessed up to when he was talking to these glamorous donors out in Hollywood just a few days ago.
Mark Stein for Rush, more to come.
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It's always great to be here.
Always a great honor to be here.
And I'm enormously grateful for this opportunity.
I'm an immigrant to this great land.
As I said to the lady who was asking me about places to flee to, for me, this is the last stop on the tour.
This is the place to take the stand.
The United States of America is a proposition nation.
It was founded on an idea.
It's not an ethnic state In the way that France or Germany were and are to a certain extent.
And if you abandon the proposition, if you abandon the idea of America, what then is the point of America?
It's like the Soviet Union.
The Soviet Union was another proposition notion, an entirely malign proposition, but that's what it was founded on in 1917.
And when it no longer wanted, could live with the proposition, it fell apart.
And Russia and Georgia and Ukraine and Uzbekistan and Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan and all the rest of it are now all separate countries.
A proposition nation that ceases to believe in the proposition simply has no raison d'être.
And that is the great fight that the United States of America is engaged on at the moment.
As Abraham Lincoln remarked in another context, a house divided cannot stand.
And America is a house divided.
It's a house divided on the most basic issue, which is the nature of the state itself.
This is the argument.
Barack Obama represents that section of the American elites that think the end destination of an advanced society is something like Scandinavia, and that America has been taking too long to get there.
And so he came into office and he put us in the express lane to that.
That was the point of the stimulus.
That's the point of Obamacare.
We've got this story now that was just in the paper today about Harvard.
Students are objecting to a professor, a professor of grassroots organizing not being given tenure.
Why on earth?
This is why on earth are they teaching grassroots organizing at Harvard?
This is ridiculous.
What is it?
$50,000 a year to go to Harvard and they're learning grassroots organizing.
Instead of going to an elite institution to learn grassroots organizing, why don't you get out in the grassroots?
I'll tell you why they don't.
Because they want to be like Barack Obama.
He didn't want to live in any of the communities he organized.
He understood that that's a path to political power.
He lived in Hyde Park and he commuted.
He lived in nice, tony, elite Hyde Park and he commuted to the communities he organized.
Nobody who lives in a real community wants to live in a community organized by a community organizer.
This is about power.
This is about the size of the state.
Barack Obama and millions of people like him have a view of the United States which is at odds with its animating principle.
And people picked up on that very fast.
In the fall of 2008, everybody was writing about it's the end of the Republican Party, it's the death knell for American conservatism.
This is the way it is now.
They were doing all those fawning magazine covers, portraying Obama as Lincoln, Obama as FDR, Obama as every transformative president you could name.
And people got the message.
People got the message in nothing flat, and they began pushing back because they understood that this is where you take your stand.
That there's no point.
You can't let this drift carry on.
You look at the young people swaying glassy-eyed at Obama rallies through all the hopey-change mumbo-jumbo.
No self-respecting person, even the wretched 24- and 26-year-old child men churned out by America's ridiculous educational institutions, none of these people, no self-respecting adult would stand there with that glassy-eyed look, electing people on fatuous bromides like hope and change.
But 53% of the electorate did.
53% of the electorate did.
Because there's a genuine divide in this country now, as there was back in the 1770s.
There's a genuine divide between people who think we need to sign up for the same programs that have reduced Europe to economic sclerosis and demographic ruin and have made it impossible for two of the biggest militaries on the planet to knock off a loser like Gaddafi who lives in a tent in the middle of the desert and they still can't take out his tinpot regime.
That is the future.
Obama's future is laid out for you.
The only difference is that he's doing it for 300 million people and it's going to be even worse if he gets away with it.
So America is a house divided.
And that's the divide that matters.
That's the divide that matters.
I'm getting all this email from people who are saying, oh, you don't know what natural-born citizen is.
No, you don't.
I know what the phrase natural-born citizen means.
I know what it meant in the 17th and 18th century.
And I know what it meant in the 19th century.
And you are out of your mind if you think that a society, if you think that a society borrowing $188 million an hour needs to concoct a tenuous legal argument that has no chance of winning, that a man born in Hawaii to an American mother does not meet the definition of natural-born citizen.
I accept that you may believe that.
You may well believe that.
And good luck to you.
And one day you may get that to the Supreme Court and they will adjudicate it.
And I'll tell you what, by the time you do get it there, there will be no United States of America because this country is sliding off a fiscal cliff, it's sliding off a geopolitical cliff.
And it is insane to invent a definition of natural-born citizen that has never been understood that way, never been interpreted that way in the 19th century United States of America, in the 18th century American colonies, and in England, where this phrase came from in the 16th century.
This is a ridiculous diversion.
Do you want your country to survive?
Because we're the brokest country in history.
We're broker than any nation has ever been.
We're borrowing a fifth of a billion dollars every hour, every single hour.
And that's just the federal government, by the way.
We're not even talking about California.
We're not even talking about New York.
We're not even talking about Long Island, New York, where the caller we were speaking to belongs to the highest taxed jurisdiction in the highest taxed in New York State or the nation or whatever it was.
We are spending ourselves into doom and decay and despair.
This is an existential crisis for the United States of America, and it requires being taken seriously.
Let's go to Rich in White Plains, New York.
Rich, you're on the Rushlinbusha.
Great to have you with us.
Hi, Mark.
How are you?
I'm doing good, all things considered.
Mark, while I appreciate your use of the term squishy to describe the independent voter, I have several alternate and equally appropriate terms, and they all begin with an I.
Oh, right.
Lay them on me.
We have idiot, imbecile, indecisive, intimidated, in between, and my favorite invertebrae.
What do you think?
Now, now, you're being very cool.
You're being very cruel because these are the people who make the difference between, you know, winning 51% and losing 49%.
It's all those invertebrates in the middle that actually give you the 51%.
Mark, these are the same people.
How much intelligence do you need to figure out who to vote for if you claim to be a moderate, but Mr. Obama, the candidate, was the most liberal voter in the Senate?
I mean, hello?
Yes, but he speaks so well, and he used all those nice abstract nouns like hope and hope and if hope and change aren't moderate, what isn't?
I mean, they're such nice, fluffy, abstract, gacious nouns.
Who could possibly object to them, Rich?
Well, I stand by my list, Mark.
Well, I like invertebrates.
I think from now on, if anyone from Gallup is listening, if anyone from Rasmussen is listening, I think maybe that's the way to create that category on your polling things.
Invertebrates.
Republicans, registered Democrats, registered Republicans, registered invertebrates.
Great to talk with you, Rich.
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Let's go to Donna in Middletown, Maryland.
Middletown, sounds like a huge idea of the money.
A town full of moderate centrists.
Hey, Donna, great to have you with us.
You're live on the show.
Yes, hi.
Glad to be here with you, Mark.
Thank you so much for what you're doing.
I just wanted to mention something.
My husband and I were chatting a little while ago, and we were talking about growing up in the quote-unquote hippie era.
And we were saying the ironic thing about all of this is we grew up in a time when everything was anti-big government and anti-establishment.
And those very same people, the Bernadine Dorns and, you know, her whole group, are the ones that are now who've morphed into everything they despise.
They've become the very thing they hate about our country.
Well, they don't despise it, Donna.
You're right.
There's a paradox there, and you see it a lot of the time, that people still think they're kind of countercultural.
I was in London for the riots a couple of weeks ago.
I always like to go to London in riot season.
And what was fascinating to me was that these guys were going around with the big anarchist A-sign.
They were anarchists demanding more government welfare.
They were anarchists writing for bigger government.
And that's what Bernardine Dawn and Bill Ayers figured out.
Bernardine Dorne and Bill Ayres in the 60s tried to blow up the buildings.
I remember that.
And then they figured out, no, no, no.
Let's not blow them up.
That way you get people all riled up.
Let's instead burrow into those buildings and hollow them out from the inside and take over those institutions.
That was the great insight of Bernadine Dorn and Bill Ayers.
They figured out that you could burrow your way into these institutions and turn them into dead husks.
Do you remember that line, Donna?
Some celebrities, I think, were at Bill Clinton's inauguration in 1993, and they were bothered by the flypast.
They had a flypast of United States Air Force jets, like they did at Buckingham Palace for the wedding this morning.
They had a flypast of USAF jets.
And one of the Hollywood celebrities said, oh, because he was a countercultural type, he felt a bit embarrassed about that.
And the other guy said to him, oh, don't worry about it.
There are jets now.
And that's what the hippies say.
There are jets now.
There are schools now.
It's our government now.
The hippie generation were not anarchic spirits, were not countercultural spirits.
It turned out they were just the kind of beaded version of big government of the biggest big government types you've ever seen.
And they got their way.
They hollowed out everything.
And I've got to say to you, like, I'm noticing a change in my son's generation where they're starting to push back.
And there are things going on in the schools that are unbelievable.
And just yesterday, my son told me he was asked to do a picture about something political.
So he said he picked the most anti-socialist communist subject matter he could put on paper.
Good for him.
You know, the most important thing, Donna, and congratulate your son for me, because what I worry about is the lack of the contrarian spirit in American youth.
They're with the social engineers from kindergarten.
And it's depressing to me how few, and perhaps they do it because they don't want to get bad grades and they don't want to affect where they go to college and all the rest of it.
But at some time, they've got to stop taking in all the glassy-eyed eco-babble and all the other stuff that they're basically fed the party line on.
The contrarian spirit is vital to any genuine sense of liberty.
And if your son's displaying it, good for him.
It's coming.
I think we're going to start seeing more of it.
And as much as people don't like to hear maybe perhaps some people aren't happy with some of the things Donald Trump has said, I've got to be honest.
He's saying what people are thinking, whether they like him or not.
And we need more people to stand up like that.
The more, the better.
Hey, hey, steady on, Donna, or we'll end the call unpleasantly.
But I will agree with you on this, Reid Donald Trump.
He's a man comfortable in his own skin, and he's socking it to Obama on his terms.
And I'm sorry for all those people who just want to nominate the guy whose turn it is in the Republican nomination.
You know, so we wind up with John McCain or we wind up with Bob Dole or whatever.
What people respond to in Trump is authenticity.
He doesn't care.
They told him you can't bring up the bertha thing.
He brought up the bertha thing, whacked Obama over the head with it.
And after three years of getting nowhere, Obama in two weeks flat ponies up his birth certificate.
What people like about Trump is that he's authentic.
He fights on Trump's terms.
I don't agree with his policies, but the important thing about Trump is the tone.
And Republicans in the nominating process this season want a champion and not someone who's just going to follow the mainstream media, the state media narrative on these issues.
Yeah, we want strength.
We want somebody who's business-minded.
We want somebody who's a true American patriot.
And I think people are tired of all the rhetoric.
And I remember when Joe Wilson spoke up and said to Obama, you lie.
Well, you know, hasn't that been true all the way through this presidency?
Yeah, and we're fed up.
We're all fed up.
Our kids are fed up.
Yeah, and that's where you're right, Donna, is you don't let the media dictate the terms of civility.
When the media start going about civility, like they did with the Gabby Giffords thing, what they mean is, you guys shut up.
You guys shut up and take it and let us tell you the bounds of acceptable public discourse.
And the end result of that is that you'll wind up with a guy like Bob Dole or John McCain, a decent old stiff who knows how to give a wonderful concession speech.
And it's too serious for that.
We don't need a guy who knows how to give a good concession speech in November 2012.
We need a fighter who knows the who understands the terms in which this battle is being fought and is willing not to fight on the media's terms, but is willing to stand up and fight on his own terms.
Mark Stein in for us, more to come.
Oh, oh dear.
This just in.
I see I don't meet the natural born clause of the fairness doctrine, according to a Supreme Court decision just announced.
So I got to get out of here.
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This has been Mark Stein.
Had a lot of fun.
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