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Now I was talking to Patrick from San Jose, uh just uh before the top of the hour, and Patrick was saying that Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen.
And here's the point, uh, according to Patrick, even if he is born in Hawaii, in whatever hospital that was in Hawaii, even if he was born in the United States to an American mother, uh, as Patrick sees it, he is not a natural-born citizen and therefore is not qualified to be president of the United States.
Now, look, uh I'm I'm a right wing guy.
I'm an extreme right wing guy.
I'm a small government guy.
I'm a seriously small government guy.
I really don't want anything from the government apart from an army defending the borders, a road when I get to the bottom of my hill every morning, and a fire department.
All the rest is a waste of time.
I don't want cowboy poetry festivals, I don't want Medicare.
Uh as a an immigrant, I've had to stand in the Social Security office while some guy ahead of me has been blathering his sob story for an hour and a half, staring at the fifty-eight stupid leaflets, informing me of all the goodies that having a social security number entitles me to, and I don't want any of the fifty-eight, the fifty-seven for Heinz 57 varieties of government.
I don't want any of it.
I'm I'm super right wing, super small government, super conservative, and I'm not interested uh in attempting to prove that a man born in Hawaii to an American mother is not a natural born citizen.
Now Patrick mounted a uh civilized defense.
When when the question was, here's why I'm not a birther, here's why I'm not a birther.
When the question was uh was uh Barack Obama born uh in uh Hawaii, or was he in fact born in the coastal hospital in Mombasa and then shows up in uh the United States a couple of weeks later?
That was an interesting question.
And it's not like the 9-11 truthers, where it would require hundreds, if not thousands of people to be in on the conspiracy, very few people would need to be in.
You wouldn't necessarily even need a conspiracy.
Peter O'Toole, do you know Peter O'Toole?
Lawrence of Arabia, great actor in a great movie, Peter O'Toole.
Peter O'Toole does not know whether he was born in Yorkshire, England, or Connemara, Ireland.
Uh uh some people say he was born in Connemara, some people say he was born in Yorkshire.
This is the 1930s.
You know, we're not talking about medieval times or anything.
We're talking about the nineteen thirties in two jurisdictions that have some of the most comprehensive and detailed and oldest records on and reliable records on the planet.
And Peter O'Toole doesn't know whether he was born in Yorkshire, England, or Connemara in County Galway in Ireland.
Uh I accept that it would be entirely possible for a man born in Mombasa to acquire a Hawaiian birth certificate.
I know how it works in the United States, whereas a matter of policy, all you a matter of policy by all the all the states, by the way.
Now your databases are wholly corrupted, with false social security numbers for all kinds of tens of millions of people, uh tens of millions itinerant Latin American peasants who admitted to this country and then given false documentation.
So the idea that the United States databases are not full of bunk uh is uh is n is not something I want to argue with.
But if you accept, if you accept uh that uh the president of the United States was born in Hawaii to an American mother and you're still arguing uh that he is disqualified from being president and he's not a natural born citizen, then sorry, you're on a hiding to nothing.
Uh because nobody uh Patrick wanted to impeach the president.
He wants to impeach the president uh for something he wants a judicial ruling on.
He accepts that the jurisprudence on this, the Supreme Court has generally taken the definition of natural born as it was prevailing in the American colonies in 1776.
Nobody was talking then about being the qualification for being head of state because the only guy who was head of state was King George III.
So the term in 1776 was natural born subject and natural born subject had a very clear meaning for centuries beforehand that it meant that anybody who was born in his Majesty's realms was a subject of his majesty.
That is uh when when when Americans became natural born citizens uh after 1776 in the 19th century that's the definition uh that most of the available jurisprudence uh stands by now Patrick Patrick uh once uh thinks we need to get a a a judicial ruling from the Supreme Court on his version of it.
His version is very interesting uh and I would be interested to see how the court would rule on it.
But it's not uh any definition of natural born as has been understood in the re this republic or in uh the American colonies or in the metropolitan colonial power beforehand.
Uh so it's not going to fly.
And I'll tell you why it's not going to fly uh a black newspaper association they're called something like the Association of American newspaper publishers uh they're the biggest uh black newspaper association in the in the Northeast just a couple of weeks ago uh as Donald Trump was rampaging around, they took out a full page ad in their newspapers to say uh essentially saying uh yeah so what it might be the case that this guy isn't born in the United States of America but so what?
He should still be president that's what you're dealing with for a start there that even when he i there was the possibility he was born in Mombasa, huge numbers of American liberals don't care.
They don't think that matters.
Now if you if you then accept that he was born in Hawaii Hawaii to an American mother but he still has to be removed from office he still is to be impeached as Patrick says sorry you're not going to get anywhere on that the best outcome of that would be civil war.
I'm not necessarily uh against civil war.
It might be a nice cleansing cathartic experience of the kind this country could really use right now.
But that's about the best likely outcome of that.
You're gonna impeach uh Barack Obama by the way is responsible for destroying the economy of this country destroying the credibility of the United States around the world he's responsible for weakening American power around the planet he's responsible for running up unprecedented multi-trillion dollar debt dev levels.
He's responsible for throwing a trillion dollars in small bills out the window with just one stupid stimulus bill and you think the reason to remove him from office is because a man born in a Hawaiian hospital to an American mother is does not meet an invented an invented definition of natural born citizen that you've concocted that has no precedent in the preceding three centuries of jurisprudence.
Why impeach him for it?
Everything is Barack Obama's fault except where he was born and who he was born to a man has no choice in that I don't particular I don't you know I didn't get on particularly well with my parents and if I'd had my way I wouldn't want to be born in the the Wellesley hospital in Toronto.
It's a dump Frummy hospital didn't particularly like Toronto I didn't want to be born there.
Why is that my fault?
Why impeach a guy why impeach a guy for where for the one thing that isn't isn't his fault if if uh let's say I I am a subject of her Canadian Majesty, so I'm not qualified to be president.
Okay?
I accept that.
That's fine.
Let's say the waitress down the road at the diner that I knocked up she gives birth tomorrow to my child.
Are you saying uh Patrick from San Jose is arguing that that child through nothing to do with anything he's done is not qualified does not meet the Qualification to be President of the United States.
No Supreme Court decision, uh, and nothing in uh in English common law before the founding of this republic recognizes that definition a natural born.
And we're talking about a country, by the way.
We're talking about a country that is sliding off the cliff so fast.
Uh the American right needs to get real on this.
The American I'm sorry uh if this is distasteful to you uh to uh to to some of you.
But the point is um Barack Obama is a symptom of the problem.
He's the symptom of the problem.
The real problem is that fifty-three percent of your fellow Americans voted to put him in office.
And uh trying to get him out of there, trying to get him out of there because you don't accept that a man born in a Hawaiian hospital to an American mother is an is meets your definition a natural-born citizen.
All you're doing is letting those 53% of people who were crazy enough to vote for this fraud off the hook.
Because you're saying to them, oh, don't worry, you weren't it it's not your fault.
It's not your fault for voting for a man with no qualifications, a man who's never run anything in his life, who has no executive experience, uh who has nothing going for him except that he was wafted upwards uh from Occidental to Columbia to Harvard to community organizing,
uh to st to the state legislature, to state senator to senator, to the president man wafted ever upwards without accomplishing anything, and fifty-three percent of the American people were stupid enough to vote for that, and you wanna and you think what matters is impeaching him uh because uh because of the one thing he wasn't responsible for, which is his butt.
I'm sorry, this is nuts.
This is nuts.
This country is in an existential crisis, uh and fifty-three percent of the American people who voted for that guy uh actively contributed uh to this existential crisis.
Impeaching him, impeaching him because uh his father was a British subject, lets that 53% of the people off the hook uh and and doesn't address them the principal problem, which is that tens of millions of people in this country actively supported policies that are dooming America.
I don't begrud anybody who's born in this country having a shot at the American dream.
And that includes a guy born in a Hawaiian hospital to some crazy idiot uh uh Afro-Marxist loon uh from British colonial Kenya.
Even the guy born to the crazy Afro-Marxist colonial loon from British Kenya deserves a shot at the American dream.
The problem is that fifty-three percent of the American people voted to kill the American dream.
That is the issue.
The issue is not impeaching some guy, impeaching some guy uh because uh you happen to have concocted a definition of natural born, uh, which uh every American president before Martin Van Buren could not meet, uh, and in fact, which uh which even Michael Dukakis, Michael Dukarkis' parents were born in Greece.
Uh this is a waste of time, a waste of time, and is profoundly unserious when you're in an existential crisis.
He's the symptom.
The problem is the 53% of Americans who voted for him.
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Let's go to Rob on uh Long Island, uh New York.
Whereabouts on uh Long Island are you, Rob?
Which which which which part of that island?
Hey Mark, how are you doing?
I'm doing I'm doing good.
You're you're where where on Long Island are you first of all?
Glencove Long Island.
All right, okay, great.
Nice part of the world.
Yeah, it's great, great, great.
The highest tax county in uh North America.
Oh, what an what an honor.
Do you get a trophy for that uh to they send you with your tax bill?
You wouldn't believe it.
Um, Mark, I'm uh thank you for letting me on your show.
I uh wanted to talk about health care as uh I'm a professional broker doing this for twenty-one years here in New York.
And um I'm very, very um uh distraught about the rate increases now for my clients here in the small business market and with no relief in sight.
And having spent eight years in a third party administrator before there were even HMOs or networks here in New York, I speak from an insight into the business where my ideas about how this thing should be solved are very, very different than what the President passed and what Congress passed.
And you know, if you read through the National Association of Health Underwriter notes about the points of this plan where there's maximum threat out of pocket cost of two thousand dollars, the only way they can do that is with a capitated system, which means if you really want the high end specialist, you're not going to get that.
Right.
And what I wanted to share with you is that I really believe that the model of delivery of health care needs to be completely turned up on its head and we have to model much of what's like uh priceline dot com for hotels and car and and and airfare,
we need to expose the Medicare table so the public really knows ahead of time things like what a what a CAT scan costs, what it truly costs, what an MRI really is is being re reimbursed at by these insurance carriers, so that people can be empowered up front and that I'd also argue that there are many things in health care like office visits, where a specialist would if you're off the street would charge you six hundred dollars, but on Medicare or on a health plan, he'd be willing to accept a hundred dollars as payment in full.
Things like laboratory where they charge four fifty but they accept forty five dollars as payment in full um but you but you can't but you you know you get to the heart of the problem Rob is which is that nobody now, unlike Priceline dot com, uh when you're trying to get a hotel or you're trying to get an uh air flight or whatever, nobody has any real idea just to take a CAT scan what it costs.
Nobody has any idea whether that costs eighty bucks or eight hundred bucks or eight thousand bucks.
Well this is the the idea of actually putting a price on it and understanding a price on it in the in the sense that you have a ballpark figure for what a hotel room costs or an air flight costs has completely flown the coupe in the way we talk about uh the the medical system.
Well what I would like to argue is that since you and I are pay FICA taxes, we're actually substantiating a fund in which doctors have car blanched to to charge these codes to Medicare.
So I argue that the uh facilities, whether it's laboratories or uh radiology or office visits, the doctors, they should be posted up on the wall this is what I'm taking from Medicare.
And that the consumer now has armed with them the ability to say, okay, give me the best price what are you charging in in one one five you know four two for for a uh for uh an office visit or for uh a blood test uh and what's your best price and I could see a world like that I would also argue that the actuaries at the insurance companies they shouldn't even have in the premium,
even if it's a high deductible office visits being covered or lab or forms of radiology acupuncture, uh physical therapy.
There's scams o off the charts that if people pay money out of their pockets, the marketplace would c self correct the fraud.
Yeah and the market price a as you say particularly for just uh a a routine uh visit to the doctor, uh the market would very quickly establish a real price uh for that.
As you said, the mark the market self corrects.
But here's here's the problem, Rob.
Um the president actually addressed this when he was out on uh I think it was at a fundraiser in Hollywood uh and he was apologizing to these glamorous fundraisers for not doing any everything that they'd wanted.
And one of the things he said was we're not at single payer yet.
And he sees what he he's explicitly trying uh to so jigger the insurance market to make it impossible to operate uh because a a genuine insurance market requires a a real understanding and a real evaluation of costs and risks.
And he and and he's hoping to so jigger the market that we will have to move to a single payer system within a couple of years simply because he's he's wrecked the proceeding system.
Well I would argue to you that here in New York we've got basically four major carriers and that's it.
If we did what I was talking about, I believe that you'd have a much bigger market where carriers would compete on service and you could dramatically slow these claims down and bring premiums back down to say six hundred for families and two hundred for singles with with say three year eight thousand dollar deductibles.
And but I would also argue Mark that we also need to change the tax code where rather than having to the ability to only write off anything above ten percent of the adjusted growth for out of pocket medical, you should be able to write off dollar one at a fifty fifty basis.
So again, you're invested with your care and going getting primary care first aid it's like going to the mall.
It shouldn't be a mystery anymore.
And that would go a long way.
And and and as you say, it would be nice to have complete uh deductibility.
You want to encourage people to look after their uh to to to to invest in their health and look after their health, uh and yet, as you say, uh you reach a certain cutoff point where unless uh medical uh bills are uh certain percentage, you're not allowed you're not allowed to deduct them.
But th there is a but th but that's because Rob, you're looking at it by in in ways of strengthening a private h sector health system.
Obama looks at Obamacare as a disruptive mechanism that will lead to a fully socialized, fully governmentalized uh and uh single payer health care system.
That's what he wants.
That's what he more or less uh fessed up to when he was talking to these glamorous donors uh out in Hollywood uh just a few days ago.
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It's it's uh always great to be here.
Always a great honor uh to be here, and uh I I'm enormously grateful for for this opportunity.
I'm uh I'm an immigrant to this uh great land, as I said to the lady who I was asking me about places to flee to.
For me, this is the last stop on the tour.
Uh this is the place to take take the stand.
Uh the United States of America is a proposition nation.
Uh it was founded on an idea.
It's not an ethnic state in the way that uh in the way that France or Germany uh were and are to a certain extent.
Uh and if you abandon the proposition, if you abandon the idea of America, what then is the point of America?
It's like uh the Soviet Union.
The Soviet Union was a another proposition notion, uh entirely malign proposition, uh, but that's what it was founded on in 1917, and when it no longer uh wanted uh could could uh uh could live with the proposition, it fell apart.
And uh the Russia and uh Georgia and Ukraine and Uzbekistan and Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan and all the rest of it are now all separate countries.
Uh a proposition nation that ceases to believe in the proposition simply has no reson d'etre.
And that is the great fight uh that uh that the United States of America is uh engaged on at the moment.
Uh in in uh uh as Abraham Lincoln remarked in another context.
A house divided cannot stand.
And America is a house divided.
It's a house divided on the most basic issue, which is the nature of the state itself.
This is the argument.
Uh Barack Obama represents that section of the American elites that think the end destination of an advanced society is something like Scandinavia, and that America has been taking too long to get there.
And so he came into office and he and he put us in the express lane to that.
That was the point of the stimulus.
That's the point of Obamacare.
We've got this story now uh that was just in the paper today about uh Harvard students are objecting to a professor uh a professor of grassroots organizing not being given tenure.
Why why on earth?
This is uh this is uh uh why on earth are they teaching grassroots organizing at Harvard?
This is ridiculous.
What is it, fifty thousand dollars a year to go to Harvard and they're learning grassroots organizing.
Instead of going to an elite institution to learn grassroots organizing, why don't you get out on the grassroots?
I'll tell you why they don't, because they want to be like Barack Obama.
He didn't want to live in any of the communities he organized.
He understood that that's that's uh uh a path to political power.
He lived in Hyde Park and he commuted.
Uh he lived in nice tony elite Hyde Park and he c and he commuted to the communities he organized.
Uh nobody who lives in a real community wants to live in a community organized by a community organizer.
This is about power.
This is about the size of the state.
Uh Barack Obama and millions of people like him have a view of the United States which is at odds with its a with its animating principle.
And people picked up on that very fast.
In the fall of 2008, everybody was uh writing about it's the end of the Republican Party, it's the death knell for American conservatism.
Uh this is this is the way it is now.
Uh they were doing all those fawning magazine covers, uh portraying Obama as Lincoln, Obama as FDR, Obama as every transformative president you could name.
And people got the message.
People got the message in nothing flat, and they began pushing back because they understood that this is this is where you take your stand.
Uh that there's no point, you can't let this drift carry on.
You look at the young people swaying glassy eyed at Obama rallies through all the hopey changey mumbo jumbo.
No self-respecting person, even the wretched twenty-four and twenty-six-year-old child men churned out by uh by America's ridiculous educational institutions.
No none of these people, no self-respecting adult would stand there with that glassy-eyed look, uh electing people on fatuous bromides like hope and change.
But but fifty-three percent of the electorate did.
Fifty-three percent of the electorate did.
Uh because there's a genuine divide in this country now, as there was back in the 1770s.
There's a genuine divide between people who think uh we need to sign up for the same programs that have reduced Europe to economic sclerosis and demographic ruin and have made it impossible uh for for two of the biggest militaries on the planet to knock off a loser like Gaddafi uh who lives in a tent in the middle of the desert and they still can't take out his tin pot regime.
That is the future.
Uh Obama's future is is laid out for you.
Uh the only difference is that he's doing it for three hundred million people, and it's going to be even worse if he gets away with it.
So America is a house divided.
And that's the that's the divide that matters.
That's the divide that matters.
I'm getting all this email from people who say, Oh, you don't know what natural born citizen is.
No, you don't.
I know what the phrase natural born citizen means.
I know what it meant in the seventeenth and eighteenth century, and I know what it meant in the nineteenth century.
And you are out of your mind if you think that a society, if you think that a society borrowing a hundred and eighty-eight million dollars an hour needs to concoct a tenuous legal argument that is no chance of winning, that a man born in Hawaii uh to an American mother does not meet the definition of natural-born citizen.
I accept that you may believe that.
You may well believe that, and good luck to you.
And one day you may get that to the Supreme Court uh and they will adjudicate it.
And I'll tell you what, by the time you do get it there, there will be no United States of America because this country is sliding off a fiscal cliff, it's sliding off a geopolitical cliff.
And it is insane to uh to invent a definition of natural born citizen that has never been understood that way, never been interpreted that way in the nineteenth century uh United States of America, in the eighteenth century American colonies, uh and in England, uh where this phrase came from in the in the sixteenth century.
This is a ridiculous diversion.
Do you want your country to survive?
Because we're the brokest country in history.
We're broker than any nation has ever been.
We're borrowing a fifth of a billion dollars every hour.
Every single hour that the and that's just the federal government, by the way.
We're not even talking about California.
Not even talking about New York.
We're not even talking about uh Long Island, New York, uh where uh the the caller we were speaking to uh b belongs to the highest taxed uh jurisdiction uh in the highest taxed uh in in in in uh in New York State or the nation or whatever it was.
Uh we are we are spending ourselves into doom and decay and despair.
This is a an existential crisis for the United States of America, and it requires being taken seriously.
Let's go to Rich in White Plains, New York.
Uh Rich, you're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Great to have you with us.
Hi Mark, how are you?
I'm uh doing good, all things considered.
Mark, well I appreciate your use of the term squishy uh to describe the independent voter.
I have several alternate and uh equally appropriate terms, and they all begin with an I. Oh, right.
Okay, lay them on me.
We have idiot, imbecile, indecisive, intimidated, In between, and my favorite invertebrae.
What do you think?
Now now you're being very cool uh you're being very cruel because these are the people who meet the make the difference uh between you know winning fifty-one percent and losing forty-nine percent.
It's all those invertebrates in the middle.
Mark Mark uh that that actually give you the fifty-one percent.
Mark, these are the same people.
How much intelligence do you need to figure out who to vote for if you claim to be a moderate, but Mr. Obama the candidate was the most liberal voter in the Senate.
I mean, hello.
Yes, but he he he he speaks so well and he used all those nice abstract nouns like hope and hope and if hope and change aren't moderate, what is what isn't?
I mean they they're such nice, fluffy, abstract nouns, who could possibly object to them, Rich?
Well, I I stand by my list, Mark.
They well, I like invertebrates.
I think we should I think from now on, I'm uh if anyone from Gallup is listening, if anyone from Rasmussen is listening, I think I think maybe that's the way to uh uh create that category on on the on the uh on your polling things.
Let's go to Donna in Middletown, Maryland, uh, middle town, sounds like a park, I don't know.
Town full of moderate centrists.
Hey, Donna, great to have you with us.
You're live on the show.
Yes, hi, glad to be here with you, Mark.
Thank you so much for what you're doing.
Um I just wanted to mention something.
My husband and I were um chatting a little while ago, and we were talking about growing up in the uh quote unquote hippie era, and we were saying the ironic thing about all of this is we grew up in a time when everything was anti big government and anti-establishment,
and those very same people, the Bernardine Dorns and you know, her whole group, are the ones that are now who've morphed into everything they despise.
They've become the very thing they hate about our country.
Well, they don't they don't do they don't despise it, uh Donna.
You're you're right, there's a paradox there, and you see it a lot a lot of the time that people still think they're kind of countercultural.
I was in London for the riots a couple of weeks ago.
I always like to go to London in riot season.
And what was fascinating to me was that these guys were going around with the big anarchist A sign.
They were anarchists demanding more government welfare.
They were anarchists writing for bigger government.
And that's what Bernardine Don and uh Bill Ayers figured out.
Uh Bernardine Dawn and Bill Az uh in the sixties tried to blow up the buildings.
I remember and then they figured out no no no, uh let's not blow 'em up.
Uh that way you get people all riled up.
Let's instead get it burrow into those buildings and hollow them out from the inside and take over those institutions.
That was the great inside of Bernardine Dawn and Bill Ares.
They figured out that you could uh burrow your way into these institutions and turn them into dead husks.
Do you remember that line, Donna?
Uh uh somebody, some celebrities, I think, were at Bill Clinton's inauguration in 1993, and they were bothered by the fly pass.
They had a fly past of uh United States Air Force jets, like they did at uh Buckingham Palace for the wedding uh this morning.
They had a fly past of USAF jets, and one of the Hollywood celebrities said, Oh, because he was a countercultural type, he sa he he felt a bit embarrassed about that.
And the other guy said to him, Oh, don't worry about it.
There are jets now.
And that's what the hippies say.
There are jets now.
There are schools now.
It's our government now.
The hi the hippie generation uh weren't uh didn't were not anarchic spirits, were not countercultural spirits.
Uh it turned out they they were they were just a kind of beaded version of big government of the biggest big government types you've ever seen, and they got their way.
They hollowed out everything.
Mm-hmm.
And I've got to say to you, like uh I'm noticing a change in my son's generation where they're starting to push back, and there are things going on in the schools that are unbelievable.
And just yesterday my son was told me he was asked to do a picture about about something political.
So he said he picked the most anti socialist communist subject matter he could put on paper.
Good for good for him.
You know, the most important the most important thing, Donna, and and uh congratulate your son for me, because what I worry about is the is the lack of the contrarian spirit in American youth.
Uh they're they're they're with these social engineers from uh kindergarten, and it's depressing to me th that the the how few and and perhaps they do it because they don't want to get bad grades and they don't want to affect where they go to college and uh and all the rest of it.
But at some time uh they've got to stop taking in all the glassy-eyed uh eco babble and all the other stuff that they're basically fed the party line on.
The contrarian spirit is vital to any genuine sense of liberty, and if your son's displaying it, good for him.
It's coming.
Uh I think uh we're gonna start seeing more of it.
And as much as people don't like to hear um, maybe perhaps some people aren't happy with some of the things Donald Trump has said, I gotta be honest.
He's saying what people are thinking, whether they like him or not.
And we need more people to stand up like that.
The more the better.
Hey, hey, stay steady on, Don, or we'll we'll end the call unpleasantly.
But I will agree with with you on this, Reed Donald Trump.
He's a man comfortable in his own skin, and he's socking it to Obama on his terms.
And I'm sorry, uh, for all those people who just want to nominate the guy whose turn it is, uh, in the Republican nomination.
Uh, you know, so we wind up with John McCain or we wind up with Bob Dole or whatever.
Uh what what people respond to in Trump is authenticity.
He doesn't care.
They told him you can't bring up the Bertha thing.
He brought up the Bertha thing, whacked Obama over the head with it, and uh after three years of getting nowhere, uh Obama in two weeks flat uh uh ponies up his birth certificate.
What people like about Trump is that he's auth he's authentic, he fights on Trump's terms.
I don't agree with his policies, but the important thing about Trump is the tone.
Uh and and and uh Republicans in the nominating process uh this season want a champion and not someone who's just gonna follow uh the uh mainstream media, the state media narrative on these issues.
Yeah, we want strength.
We want uh somebody who's business minded, we want somebody who's a true American patriot.
Um and I think people are tired of of all the rhetoric.
And I remember when Jo Joe Wilson spoke up and said to Obama, you lie.
Well, you know, hasn't that been true all the way through this presidency?
Yeah, and he and we're fed up.
We're all fed up.
Our kids are fed up.
Um, and and that's where that's where you're right, uh Donna, is you don't let the uh the you don't let the media dictate the terms of civility.
Uh when the media start going around about civility like they did with the Gabby Giffords thing, what they mean is you guys shut up.
You guys shut up and take it and let us tell you the bounds of acceptable public discourse.
And the end result of that is that you'll wind up with a guy like Bob Dole or John McCain, a decent old stiff who knows how to give uh a wonderful concession speech.
And it's too serious for that.
We don't need a guy who knows how to give a good concession speech uh in November 2012.
We need a fighter who knows the the uh who understands the terms in which this battle is being fought and is willing uh to not to fight on the media's terms, but is willing to stand up and fight on his own terms.
Mark Stein in for us, more to come.
Oh, oh dear.
This just in I s I see I uh I don't meet the natural born clause of the fairness doctrine according to a Supreme Court decision just announced.
So I gotta get out of here.
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