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So, ladies and gentlemen, if it takes a reality star to force Obama's hand on his birth certificate.
And everybody's asking, why now?
Why now?
I I think I've got the answer.
I I I think it's all about polling data.
I think up till now the polling data showed that uh it was a winning issue for Obama.
The birthers were considered crackpots and that uh the uh the polling data showed as long as uh it continued that way that there was hay to be made by Obama by re not releasing the birth certificate and and and and and stoking these people, but then Trump comes along.
And I really believe that the polling data, the internal polling day of the White House run, shows that the issue was starting to take place.
You saw that poll yesterday in USA Today, 38%, 40%, whatever it was of the American people, don't think he's born in this country.
I think the polling data shifted.
Uh no, and it wasn't all Republicans in that poll that uh that that uh uh showed that shockingly high number.
You know, you know, Obama, every president, sad to say, every president is poll driven.
And with Clinton, he even polled what to wear after he polled where to go on vacation.
And we know that the this this regime uh is just as poll-driven and oriented.
So it probably went from a net positive to um uh something that was starting to show a major problem, credibility, dishonesty, what have you.
Now, if that's correct, and since it's my opinion, it probably is I always say don't doubt me, then what it what it really shows, and this is gonna irritate a lot of people, what it shows is Trump's ability to connect with uh with average voters in a way that well, nobody else has been able to connect on this.
Nobody else has been able to force Obama to do this.
How long has it been going on?
Two and a half years, even even longer than that.
All of a sudden here comes Trump, and lo and behold, they produced a long-form birth certificate.
So if if it takes if it takes a reality star, reality TV star, in fact, I think, and there's a piece I have in the uh show prep stack of stuff today.
Somebody has the opinion that politics has become nothing more than a reality show.
And I can relate to it because when I did the Haney project on the golf channel, I have I've had my turn at reality TV.
You know the only difference in reality TV and regular TV, the writers in reality TV are not unionized.
Reality TV thus is much cheaper to produce.
But reality TV, don't doubt me on this, folks, is just as scripted.
Well, not just as scripted, but uh it's not reality either.
They have an outcome they want.
And they're gonna get there while leaving everybody to believe that that's what naturally happened along the way.
Now, if you are asking me, are you saying Rush, you didn't shoot in 83?
No, I'm not saying that.
Uh on the on the final episode of the Haney Project.
I'm just, you know, I don't want to get into too much detail about it because I don't want to get distracted here.
I'm just I'm just telling you that we've this guy has this piece that all of politics has become a reality show.
And I've often pointed out that that politics is showbiz for the ugly.
Showbiz for the unattractive.
Evidence is the annual White House Correspondence Center, which is coming up soon, and once again I was invited by four different organizations.
I politely declined three of them and emphatically declined one.
What?
What do you?
Oh, I despise them?
I desp what do you mean it's always such fun?
Snurdy, the last one I went to was 1993.
Well, how many years ago is then?
1993?
That's 18 years ago.
No.
Yeah, something like that.
Whatever.
How can you say it's always so much fun?
We get mileage out of one joke.
I just, the whole thing is a phony baloney plastic banana good time rock and roller night.
You got people in the room that hate each other, acting like they're best friends for a couple of three hours.
It's just, you know, not my not my cup of tea.
Okay, so at any rate, uh Trump was was uh in the context of politics being a reality show.
Trump was hilarious this morning.
It was absolutely hilarious.
And you know, Obama was scheduled to show up at 9.45.
Trump kept going.
He delayed Obama showing up.
And just in terms of theatrics, and I know that the purists don't want to even hear it discussed this way, but in terms of theatrics, there was no comparison in the energy and the uh the confidence of the two combatants in the competing press conferences.
Obama's presser was basically a snore fest.
And Trump's was uh, you know, alive and filled with vigor and a lot of energy.
So what do we have?
We have a reality star that has forced Obama's hand on the birth certificate.
Now, maybe, maybe that's the key.
Because even Trump, Trump took credit for it, said it was uh one of the proudest days of his life.
He started as I'm really proud of myself that everybody thought that Trump was going to be eating crow.
He starts out by saying it's the proudest day of my life.
Look what I did.
Only I was able to do this.
I mean, for a while I thought, my gosh, I'm watching myself here.
I got the biggest kick out of it.
So reality TV star ends up forcing Obama's hand on the birth certificate.
Maybe.
You ever watched the show, The Biggest Loser?
Okay, they've got that uh that hard body female who's the host, Gillian What's her Gillian uh Gillian Michaels, yeah.
Maybe she can get Obama to produce an actual budget proposal.
Maybe if she gets on the on a case here, where's your budget, Obama?
Show us your budget.
You keep running around the Republican budget, where's yours?
And then there's a show called Hardcore Pawn, P-A-W-N.
And Trump even brought the Trump said, okay, now we want to see the transcripts.
Now we want to see the grades.
How did he get into Harvard?
How did he get into Columbia?
We want to see the proof of this.
Well, maybe the hardcore pawn guys can do that.
Then there's this guy, you've seen this guy, Dog the Bounty Hunter.
He lives in Hawaii.
Dog the bounty hunter.
He could demand that Obama take a lie detector test as to whether or not Bill Ayers wrote his first book.
I mean, the possibilities here, folks, are endless.
And that's right.
No, Snerdley, it's right.
Trump does not eat crow.
He eats other people's lunches.
He does not eat crow.
And and you know, you can tell, uh, folks, that the networks did not want to leave the Trump presser.
I'm watching Fox, I'm watching PMS NBC, and they've got Obama in the little box.
Obama comes, and you can see they were just, I mean, MSNBC was the first to pull out.
Wolf Blitzer, where is this?
Wolf Blitzer.
Um blitzer.
After Trump finished speaking, Blitzer said that he has seen all of Obama's grade transcripts from college and that they were excellent.
Now, how did that happen?
Now, so we needed a reality show to tell Wolf, tell us to get to tell Wolf Blitzer to tell us how he's seen them.
Because they're sealed.
Every reality show should take on an issue now and get themselves publicity that can't be purchased.
And of course, there's Obama at his own presser today saying we don't have time for this silliness.
We got serious things happening out there.
What does he do?
He leaves and gets on a plane with Muchell to go to Chicago to tape Oprah.
And after they finish taping Oprah in Chicago today, a very serious interview, I'm sure, then they're going to fly to New York for a rush hour series of three fundraisers.
They're going to shut down the FDR.
They're going to shut down the Upper East Side during rush hour.
So this is Obama demanding it.
We get back to seriousness now, enough of silly season.
He flies off to do the interview with Obama.
So, and Trump, he's got another catchphrase to be remembered by.
He's got, you're fired, and now he's got, I won.
And Obama thought he had the trademark on that.
Anyway, uh Joe, Joe Klein at Time Magazine, what happened to all the moderate Republicans?
And he praises this wonderkind writer at the Washington Post, Ezra Klein.
Why aren't there moderate Republicans anymore?
This is sort of a takeoff on Pelosi the other day saying it, why can't we get back to the day when elections didn't matter that much?
Because there wasn't any difference between the Democrats and the Republicans.
It didn't really matter who won.
What she really meant by that, why didn't it matter?
Why can't we get back to the days where Republicans were steady losers and they didn't care?
And they point out that Obama, Joe Klein says Obama's really a moderate Republican from the 1990s.
If you look at Obama's policies, he's exactly like George W. Bush in the early 1990s.
Says here that the individual mandate, universal health care plan was originally a Republican idea.
First version I saw in the early 90s was Stuart Butler's Heritage Foundation plan.
This is what they claim here at Time Magazine.
So Obama favored that.
They say Obama favored a cap and trade plan to limit carbon emissions, but the first Bush administration passed a very successful cap and trade plan for acid rain emissions.
So going on and on, there's no difference.
Those old Republicans in the 90s were good old moderate Republicans.
What they were were rhinos.
And of course, Klein and his buddies would like to revisit those days.
But then you get to the meat and potatoes of the peace.
How did the Republicans go so far astray?
Why did it work from time to time electorally?
Why weren't the Democrats more effective in stopping these conservative Republicans?
Why didn't the society's major conservative economic stakeholders renounce this side show and demand a more reasonable brand of conservatism like we had from Bush 41 and the early 90s Republicans?
Two words come to mind, Fox News and two more words, Rush Limbaugh.
So the piece here at Time Magazine is uh Joe Klein, it's all about how Fox News and I basically Roger Ailes and I have destroyed the Republican Party, the grand old days of moderate Republicans like Bush 41, the Rhinos.
And gee, why can't we revisit?
Why can't why can't we go back to those good old days?
What happened to all the moderate Republicans?
Joe, let me tell you something.
The objective here is to make them an extinct species.
And we are on the way.
By the way, the Time Magazine article, Heritage Foundation supporting an individual mandate.
The Heritage Foundation, and I know these people...
They have been begging the news media to quit lying about them and mandatory health insurance for I don't know how long.
This is one of those things that's in the Nexus Lexus database, and they can't get it out of there.
But the Heritage Foundation, they've never signed on to this unconstitutional individual mandate.
It has never been part of a Heritage Foundation healthcare solution, but it Continues to be included in uh in in smear pieces.
Now, this thing that happened today with Trump, uh any average politician, and I'm not calling Trump a politician.
A lot of people don't like that, but he's not a politic.
They want politicians.
I mean, professional politicians of business.
It has certain requirements.
But you realize what would have happened today if an average politician had gone to the mat for the past six months, three months, whatever it is, on this birth certificate business, and the White House produces it.
And I guarantee you this.
The White House thought that this would be a profound embarrassment and an unrecoverable bomb boondoggle for for Trump.
They were trying this this thing today, the release of the press con the birth certificate, was designed to be uh a an unrecoverable flap for Trump.
And for your average, particularly Republican politician, it would have been.
Any other Republican politician who had played this birth certificate thing the way Trump's been playing it, the release of the long form today would have ended them.
With Trump, he turns it into a resume builder and a resume enhancement.
It's just it's uh it's it's an illustration of the can I say this of uh you might want to say it's an add on, you might want to say it's a it's an albatross, but this is the showmanship characteristic that Trump brings of able to triumph over this and and turn it into something.
Now, it still may backfire big time on the press is going to do everything they can, of course, to make this backfire, but still it's it's fascinating theater to uh to watch this.
And we'll get to the audio sound bites of it here in just a minute.
Now, the smoking gun.
I's already.
Now the smoking gun, I mean, there this is not a crackpot bunch.
I mean, these are people that post legal documents, analyze them.
Uh you know, Lindsay Lohan's latest arrest, if you want to see the record of it, you'll see the affidavit, go to smoking gun.
Smoking gun has an analysis of how the birth certificate they released might be a fake.
You want to hear what they say?
Oh, yeah, you do.
This morning's White House release of Obama's long form birth certificate will of course do little to derail the birther movement, which will now analyze the document with a kind of verve previously directed toward those Texas Air National Guard memos, facts to CBS from that Kinkos and Abilene.
So here are a few nutty points, nutty points about the birth certificate sure to be seized upon by the nonbelievers.
Here they are.
If the original document was in a bound volume as reflected by the curvature of the left hand side of the certificate, how can the green patterned background of the document's safety paper be so seamless?
Why, if Obama was born on August 4th, 1961 was the date accepted by local registrar four days later on August 8, 1961.
What is the significance of the smudges in the box containing the name of the reported attendant?
In the this birth box, there are two mysterious X's above the twin and triplet.
Is there a sibling or two unaccounted for?
What is the significance of the mysterious numbers seen vertically on the document's right side?
And finally, the signature of a local registrar in box 21 may be a desperate attempt at establishing the document's Hawaiian authenticity.
Note to forgers it is spelled ukulele.
So the people at the smoking gun are feeding the birthers with.
Oh, I look, I've I've I've I got a bunch of emails from people who are warning me not to be fooled by the White House.
Here, let me read you one.
Absolute proof the birth certificate is a fake.
The birth certificate is a fraud, and you can see for yourself in 30 seconds.
But hurry before they get wise.
Download the PDF from the White House website.
Open the PDF in Illustrator, not Photoshop.
Click in the center of the image.
Right click on the center of the image and click release clipping mask.
Now look at the layers.
You'll see the layers have been grouped but not flattened.
That's a sloppy forgery.
The background and the part on the left edge that make it appear to come out of a bound book is one layer.
Some of the stamps are on the other layers.
It's an absolute proof it's a fake.
So you also, you know, you have to you have to uh concede here, the White House knows this is going to happen too.
The White House knows that this is uh is going to stoke even more investigation of this, and they're probably relishing that.
They're probably sitting back in the White House laughing about this now.
I mean, I've some people saying, wait a minute, my birth certificate is black with white uh text, you know, photographic negative.
How come this is green?
That's uh that makes me suspicious, Rush.
I think you should look into it.
It's fun.
I make no apology or excuse for enjoying the show this morning that this was.
While we're going to have our fun with it, we're not going to be distracted.
Because as I have warned, I ought to replay Soundbite 2.
When we come back from the break, I will, because back on April 7th, I uh I warned people this is a dead end.
Dead end streets start driving down or walking down.
I'll replay that and let you hear the Trump sound bites if you haven't heard those yet.
We'll be back and continue after this.
Greetings, my friends, and welcome back, Rush Limbaugh, serving humanity simply by showing up.
Some in the audience, ladies and gentlemen, are not happy with me, your host.
This from a subscriber at Rush Limbaugh.com.
You've gone gatsby, Rush.
Very sad.
You hawk the Donald like you're afraid the golf invitations will end.
He's a Democrat.
He just proved it by ensuring Obama's reelection.
He's a Democrat at best and a spoiler at worst.
This wrecks our primaries all over again.
Wake up.
Signed Julie.
Somebody.
Can we search the transcribe archive?
I have I endorsed Trump.
No.
I have not endorsed Trump, not endorsed anybody.
We are simply commenting here on what happens on a day-to-day basis.
We'll see what happens here.
But folks, don't fret.
Whatever's going on now, it's like polling data now.
It's meaningless.
What happens now?
Pretty meaningless in terms of the 2012 election, other than its impact on Obama.
He's the one known candidate right now.
Anyway, let's go to the audio sound bites.
Here is Trump with his helicopter in the background, Portsmouth, New Hampshire.
After he got just what he loves, the eyes of the world on him.
And he wasn't going to disappoint anybody.
Today I'm very proud of myself because I've accomplished something that nobody else has been able to accomplish.
I was just informed while on the helicopter that our president has finally released a birth certificate.
He should have done it a long time ago.
Why he didn't do it when the Clintons asked for it.
Why he didn't do it when everybody else was asking for it.
I don't know.
But I am really honored, frankly, to have played such a big role in hopefully, hopefully, getting rid of this issue.
You see, it's not over yet.
Hopefully, hopefully getting rid of the Issue.
I'm very honored.
I did it.
Nobody else was able to do it.
Also, he's right about something here.
The Clintons did start this.
It was a Democrat operative plan.
The original birthers were Democrats.
The original birthers were Clintons in the Democrat primaries back in 2007 and 2008.
So the assembled media in the airplane hangar there at Portsmouth, New Hampshire was apoplectic that Trump was taking credit.
They expected Trump to be embarrassed and slink away, maybe not even show up to do a series of apologies.
So here is an exchange, an unidentified unidentified reporter and Trump.
You say you're taking credit for it.
A lot of people say what you cause was a distraction.
No, I'm taking great credit.
And you have to ask the president, why didn't he do this a long time ago?
Why didn't he do it a long time ago?
When Hillary Clinton was asking, when everybody was asking, why didn't he do it?
It's shocking.
It's shocking.
It's very relevant.
Why is it that people asked me for my birth certificate?
People asked me for my birth certificate, and I gave it two days later.
So the reporter says, well, look, if if it's not true, for example, does it mean the country's led by an illegal president?
The reason I hope it's true, because we have very big problems in this country.
This country is suffering right now.
I mean, I have people, they can't get gasoline in their tank.
They're topping out their tank because they can't afford to do it properly.
They've never had this before.
OPEC is setting the price of fuel.
We have we have oil all over the place.
All over the place.
Every ship at sea is loaded up with oil.
They don't know where to dump it.
And yet every day we're setting records.
And pretty soon we're going to be at that 150 a barrel, the all-time record.
Now, when the president says he has no power over that, I mean it's pretty sad.
Yeah, and remember the jaw boning that Bush got.
Remember John Kerry said, I'd be over there making deals.
If I were President, you can count on me.
I'd be over there.
I'd be telling those chicks what for.
John Kerry said in 2004.
Presidential campaign.
Then they moved on to uh Trump demanding Obama's school records.
Another reporter said, you've raised the questions about his education credentials.
Are you prepared to say today that all these issues should be put to the side, that you accept Obama is who he says he is, or do you still think there are legitimate questions?
Everything's legitimate.
Look, the press is very protective of President Obama.
Very protective.
They're not protective of me, but they're protective of President Obama.
And they're not protective of most other people either, in all fairness.
The word is, according to what I've read, that he was a terrible student when he went to Occidental.
He then gets to Columbia.
He then gets to Harvard.
I heard at Columbia wasn't a very good student.
He then gets to Harvard.
How do you get into Harvard if you're not a good student?
Now, maybe that's right, or maybe it's wrong.
But I don't know why he doesn't release his records.
I'd like to know how does he get into Harvard?
How does he get into Columbia if he isn't a good student?
It's an interesting thing.
Yeah, so okay, this is where I think it's time for Gillian.
What's her name?
The the big loser babe?
What's her name?
Jillian Anderson?
Jillian Michaels.
Yes, this is her turnout.
Jillian Michaels.
The next reality show to move in and start demanding Obama's transcripts from all of his university days.
Trump says the experts should examine the birth certificate.
So, just in finishing, I'm really honored and I'm really proud that I was able to do something that nobody else could do.
I'm really happy about it.
And now experts will check it, and everybody will go over it.
And I hope everything's going to be perfect.
And by the way, if you remember, from day one, I said I hope he gives his certificate, because I don't want this issue clouding a campaign.
Let's uh let's go to the phones.
We're going to start in Omaha.
This is Shonda.
Shonda High, great to have you on the EIB network.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
Wow, what an honor to speak with you.
Thank you.
He uh I was able to catch some of the uh statements from Obama and watch and listen to Trump as well.
I really think the joke's not us, though, Rush.
Um I I really think what Obama did today was feed uh Trump's gang on the seal, and it was a baiting tactic to ensure that he runs.
Uh Democrats would love nothing more than to see uh Obama re-elected, and that would be insured if Trump wins the primary.
So you think the White House released the birth certificate to bait Trump to keep him in to give him a little victory here so that he keeps going because they think Trump will be their ultimate ticket to victory.
Absolutely.
Why What makes you so sure Trump's even going to run?
That's just it.
They're ensuring that uh he does throw his hat in the ring.
How how does this ensure that how does this ensure that he throws his hat in the ring?
Because all that did was feed his ginormous ego and get uh give him uh a false sense of power that he does have the ability uh to get answers.
Okay, let me run an alternative theory by you.
And keep in mind there's a lot of panic out there.
I have do not I haven't this is ridiculous.
I I have not endorsed anybody.
Right now we're just having a grand old time watching this, uh watching this show go by.
But let me prove my alternative theory.
Why did they release the birth certificate today?
I am convinced that it's a little different uh from your theory.
I think that this polling data on this birth issue was starting to hurt Obama.
This USA Today poll, thirty-eight percent definitely believes he wasn't born in this country, and the number was climbing.
A lot of Democrats.
I think he played the issue out as long as he could.
The answer to the question why now, why not release the birth certificate earlier?
Because it was an advantage for him.
The polling data was showing he was winning it because the birther crowd was considered to be a bunch of fringe kooks.
All of a sudden, the polling data suggests it may be a fringe cook issue, but a lot of other mainstream voters are now picking up on it.
And so now it was time to uh to get it out of the way, because it was really starting to become a problem.
It was really starting to hurt as opposed to being a positive.
What about that theory?
Which of course the only thing that has to do with Trump is that he's been the primary provocateur on it.
Yes, and and I understand what you're saying, but as Trump said at the his press conference, who what did he give credit to?
The polls?
No.
He gave it to himself.
Well, and the administration knew exactly what would happen, that he would take credit for it, it's feeding his ego, uh, and it's just anything to make it.
Is that what really bothers you about Trump?
Let me be honest with you about something.
You know, I've been I've been hosting this program for 23 years.
And even to this day, and you may have a tough time believing this, Chandra, because you've been a a longtime regular listener, but even to this day, there are people who don't like me very much because of my utter confidence, uh people consider me to be a a a braggart.
Uh and it it rubs a lot of people the wrong way, and they do not understand when I do it, that a lot of times it's tongue in cheek, that it's uh a little bit of shtick.
It still rubs them the wrong way.
And in many ways, in most cases, it's women who really don't like that.
So is it possible that what's rubbing you wrong about Trump is precisely that he goes out and takes credit for all of this?
That's the proudest day of my life.
Look what I alone was able to accomplish.
Is that what really bothers you?
No, I actually really like Trump.
I've never watched his show.
I do like some of his ideas.
I don't know how he's going to be able to execute those, but um no, I have no problem with him uh taking credit for it.
I knew that he would.
Uh he is pompous, but that's okay.
Um but I I think it's going to take the Republicans in the wrong direction if uh if he continues it and does in fact throw his hat in the ring, and I think all that happened today is to ensure that that happens.
How's it wait a second?
Now that's interesting.
It's going to take the Republicans in the wrong direction.
A, what is the wrong direction?
And B, how would he do that?
It seems to me that if if tr if if Trump is the wrong direction, the only way he could take Republicans in the wrong direction is to persuade Americans to abandon the other Republicans in the race.
Do you think that that's you think Trump is an automatic lock to win the nomination if he runs?
Is that what worries you?
No.
No, I'm not saying let's jump the gun and say that he wins the primaries.
But I'm saying if if that were to ever happen, that would be uh Obama's dream come true along with the rest of the Liberals.
Really?
You think Okay, that that's fascinating.
I can give you a list of names from the Republican candidates that I think Obama would love to run against, and many of them would be in front of Trump.
Okay.
Well, I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings here by you know this but look, Haley Barber pulled out.
And one of the the the mainstream media is saying Haley Barber pulling out is proof that mainstream Republicans can't win anymore, that only fringe cook conservatives.
Haley Barber is not willing to adopt uh the Tea Party one.
The Tea Party is the death of the Republican Party, uh, and Haley Barber realizes he can't get their votes because he's not gonna pay any chance, he's gonna pull out.
So uh uh, let's do the name.
Do you think Obama would be afraid of running against this pick one, Romney?
I think he would be a stronger contender than Trump.
Huckabee.
Uh no, he doesn't I don't believe he has the means to uh go up against a billion dollar campaign of Obama.
Mitch Daniels.
I don't think so.
Ron or a Ron Ron Paul.
No.
No, what?
Uh Ron Paul would not win.
He's just like an angry grandpa.
That's okay, my point.
You think you think Obama, okay, if Obama's out there trying to set up the easiest fall guy.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes, I think he would actually uh Trump Trump unintended.
Yes, Ron Paul would be uh a better candidate for Obama to win.
Okay, okay.
That's why this okay.
Fine.
I'd love to continue, Shonda.
I'm glad you called, but I've got a time problem here.
And I have broadcast engineers screeching at me and practically flipping the bird to end the segment, so I gotta do that.
What is this?
Ben Bernanke just had his press conference and uh says here the Federal Reserve signaled the end of its controversial QE2.
Uh the end of the six hundred billion dollar bond buying program as planned.
The journal says setting the stage for challenging decisions about whether to raise interest rates in the face of both high unemployment and a looming threats of inflation looming threats of inflation.
What the hell is $5 a gallon gasoline or Florida and food?
Both of which have been caused by QE2.
They're talking about food shortages in the Middle East.
Who caused those?
What's causing food prices around the world to go up?
It's us.
Anyway, this QE two, this $600 bond buying, that's what's kept the stock market up.
That's gonna be a fascinating thing to watch here to see if the stock markets itself now that uh the bond buying is uh is over, if it really is.
We'll just have to wait and see quickly.
Uh Jennifer in Westfield, New Jersey.
Uh great to have you on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi.
Yeah, hi Rush.
It's a listen, it's a big win for Donald Trump.
He's the only one finally vetting Obama.
And Obama, they're terrified of Donald Trump.
He's got his own money, he could make decisions, and you know what?
He's fearless.
And we I am sick and tired of the our defeatist Republicans like Bill Kristol, Crowdhammer, Carl Rovan, Rich Lowry saying, oh, we can only hope to get to the Senate and not to uh uh uh put up someone for the for uh You know that troubles me too.
There is there is a defeatism out there in parts of our party that think the White House is not winnable.
I I just I uh you know you Jennifer, I I have to agree with you about that.
Setting our sights on the Senate only, what the hell?
This guy is imminently beatable.
This uh I I I I don't care.
Not even talking about Trump right now.
It's what this is about Obama and the the 2012 election is going To be about Obama.
And frankly, folks, when you get down to brass tax, getting rid of Obama, throwing him out of the out of the Oval Office, ending this regime has got to be priority number one.
It must be.
And he is eminently beatable.
Now I don't know about all this talk.
Trump uh or Obama's not afraid of Republicans, but he is afraid of Trump.
I don't know about all that yet.
I but I uh I I I do know that Trump's the only guy taking it to him.
Trump is the only guy taking it to him.
It could be.
I know a lot of people think Trump's a Democrat plant.
I know Trump's largely donated to Democrats.
We asked him about that on this program.
Some of you have forgotten.
We asked him about it.
You heard his answer.
You're free not to like it.
I won't ask him again.
But the the uh fact is he is taking it to Obama, and there's nobody on our side who is.
Not not in terms of elected political people.
Nobody else is.
I don't know who Obama's afraid of.
I think it's ego is so big, I think he's afraid of anybody.
People on his staff may have their qualms about some people, but I don't think he's afraid of anymore.
We'll be back.
Don't go away.
You know, you can tell people what they're sick of, and so let me tell you what I'm sick of.
I am sick of the conventional wisdom that Obama can't be beat, and I am sick of people on our side apparently holding and then promulgating that view that Obama can't be beat.