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April 5, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 5, 2011, Tuesday, Hour #2
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Once again, John Boehner saying no agreement reached in the White House meeting on a continuing resolution on the budget, which is what the White House wants.
The White House wants a shutdown.
Despite the fact that political reporting here today that uh House Republicans prepare shutdown plan, they uh quote the Democrats as saying Republicans are the only ones talking shutdown.
Not really.
The White House is talking about one as well.
So here we are at Tuesday.
The uh the day is Friday for the supposed government shutdown.
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Eric Cantor, Republican leadership says the White House is increasing the odds of a shutdown.
Paul Ryan, by the way, we've got more audio coming up of him is also playing mentioning that there's a there's a morality to the budget plan that he has presented today in that he sees the need to fight a moral decline that is taking place in the country, the moral decline defined as dependency and passivity.
Uh both those things weaken the country.
Now, see you and I, this is nothing new.
You and I, for the last 25 years, all of our lives, folks, have lamented, understood what dependency does.
Uh and the you look at the food stamp numbers that we had yesterday, food stamp participation is at an all-time high.
Uh the numbers of people working for government, dwarfing the numbers of Americans working in production, in manufacturing.
It's a two to one ratio in that regard.
But you and I have always known that that we've always felt that it it's the exact opposite of compassion to create dependency among our fellow citizens.
I've never forgotten Jack Kemp saying the way we define compassion is not by adding up how many people receive government benefits, but rather tallying the numbers of those who no longer need them.
The Democrat Party's not interested in that definition of compassion.
The Democrat Party wants more and more people dependent.
The Democrat Party has a uh a condescending view of the average person, the average human being is incompetent and incapable, not very smart, needs the government, protecting them at every phase of their life.
And in so doing, create this dependency on the Democrat Party, not on the United States.
The creation of dependency is on the Democrat Party.
If you look at all these Democrats' social programs, forget the good intentions.
That's how they wish to be judged.
Instead, look at the results.
This is one of the things that Ryan is attacking in his budget.
What good does it do?
Recipients of your largesse if the end result is to break up your family.
If the federal government becomes the husband, freeing the husband from any responsibilities, and run around living his life however he chooses without meeting any of these responsibilities, what good is that doing anybody?
The old AFDC argument.
It's not doing anybody any good.
And the very people who are the targets of all this assistance are the ones who end up being irreparably harmed.
We've had the war on poverty.
The percentages of people in poverty have not changed.
It's no social program that the Democrats have undertaken that now comprise the vaunted, the so-called social safety net, have actually worked.
They have done great harm.
And this is what Ryan is saying.
Now, all the news shows, ladies and gentlemen, are in a tissy.
Okay.
Over The latest news here that a shutdown is coming.
They're going completely hysterical over this government shutdown.
They're all saying it looks inevitable now.
And in listening to who will get hurt by the shutdown.
CNN, for example, keeps putting non-essential government employees in scare quotes.
Why the quotes?
These workers are either non-essential or they aren't.
And it's what the government is calling them.
The government's calling them non-essential.
The CNN and the news media have all of this concern for people that work for government who might be out of a paycheck for a while.
But yet the government themselves are itself describes these people as nonessential.
It's like newsrooms.
You know, the media has taken a hard hit in the economic times that we've had.
They've laid off a bunch of people, but they've always said, don't worry, our journalism will not be affected.
Only non-essential people have been cut.
Well, that means they weren't needed in the first place.
The product continues to be put out.
The Daily Newspaper, the magazine, fewer people buying and reading them, but they're still putting them out.
The effort here on the part of the Democrats with all this so-called compassion is destructive.
It's destroying people's lives.
It's taking away parts of their humanity and their dignity.
It's denying people the opportunity to be the best they can be.
It's it's it's it's robbing them by creating dependency.
It is it takes advantage of what the Democrats believe is a natural human characteristic laziness.
And exploiting that all for their own political gain.
And now to talk about all these poor people are going to die because health care coverage will be cut back, and all the sick people and the old people are going to starve because of this.
And yet we're just going back to 2008 spending levels.
Two thousand eight spending levels, by the way, authored by Democrats.
They had it all.
They wrote the budgets those years.
CNN's also concerned that the Army might not get paid.
Concerned that people might have to wait longer to get their tax refund checks.
When has CNN ever been concerned about the military being paid?
Or people getting their money back from government.
And by the way, I think uh the military will get paid during a shutdown.
And social security checks will go out during a shutdown.
You go back to our archives and get the story detailing just exactly what continues to happen during a shutdown.
Social security checks will be mailed.
They're working now on a stopgap measure to make sure the military gets paid during uh during government shutdown.
The whole government shutdown is a uh an intellectual exercise for the uh for the most part.
We're simply talking about there not being exact amounts of dollars on hand to fund the government.
But the dirty rotten truth is that we don't have the money to fund the government now.
We're either printing it or borrowing it.
And this is what Paul Ryan is trying to get his arms around and deal with seriously now.
Little couple more sound bites here from Mr. Ryan again going back to CNBC on squawk back or squawk box, Becky Quick and Joe Kernan, Joe Kernan says, hey, look, Congressman Ryan, the idea of public unions sort of electing all the state and local officials, that was good.
But now to have the public unions actually controlling who's on the Supreme Court is a whole new form of government we're seeing potentially.
I think he's talking about what's going on in Wisconsin today.
Look, what I see happening systematically across government is a different philosophy that is contrary to the American idea of our founding principles.
And it is systematic replacement of the rule of law with the rule of man.
Where you have unelected bureaucrats running government running society.
That is not what we want to do.
We want to get back to those core founding ideals.
We want to get back to limited government, economic freedom.
We believe in the principles of liberty, of so-sufficiency, of individualism.
We believe that it's important to get this country back on the right track so we can grow and prosper.
You you start talking about individualism, rugged individuality to a liberal.
It's like showing Dracula the cross.
That is just a huge insult.
You go back to the days where homelessness was a front and center issue every day.
And somebody would suggest, well, maybe they should just think about getting a job.
And the typical liberal response, well, easy for you to say.
Well, yeah, I mean, that's the solution.
The best welfare program there is, in fact, is a job.
You know, jobs are how people define themselves.
The liberals speak of jobs as if there's something corrupt about a job.
Oh, easy for you to say.
Meaning it's easy for people who have a job to talk about it, but you go try to get one.
Well, imagine if everybody had the attitude that the left has about jobs, that they're impossible to get.
You shouldn't focus on that.
Instead, focus on the government taking care of you.
What if everybody just checked out?
And the reason most Americans don't is because of self-worth.
A desire to have dignity and meaning in your life.
Work is where you accomplish things.
Work is where achievement is noted.
Work is where progress takes place.
Work is what makes everything else possible.
It's a dirty word.
It's a dirty word to the American left.
As long as one person doesn't have a job, it's not fair that somebody else does, and that's true across the spectrum.
If somebody has a hundred thousand dollars, it's not fair that somebody else only has fifty.
And every decision they make is always in favor of the lesser or the less.
And everybody must be dumbed down, or everybody must be reduced.
The left never wants to improve people's lot in life.
In order to make things fair and equal.
What they want to do is lower the achievers so that there's less of a gap.
Here's Ryan this morning, part of his statement releasing the budget in Washington.
For too long, Washington has not been honest with the American people.
Washington has been making empty promises to Americans from a government that is going broke.
The nation's fiscal trajectory is simply not sustainable.
The debt is projected to grow to truly catastrophic levels in the near future, leading to an economic collapse and a diminished future.
We don't need clever politicians in Washington.
We need real leadership, and that is what we intend to provide.
The president's recent budget proposal that he gave is worse than just a commitment to the status quo.
The president actually accelerates our descent into a debt crisis.
He doubles the debt by the end of his first term and triples the debt by the end of his budget.
Exactly right.
And of course, this then makes people ask on purpose.
Why would anybody do this knowingly?
How could anybody do it knowingly?
And then you ask, how can anybody be this dumb?
How can anybody be this incompetent?
And so the question becomes is it on purpose or is it just due to incompetence?
It's a tough question because you don't think anybody could be this dumb, and you don't think anybody we've elected president could be this incompetent.
So then you say, well, okay, if it's on purpose, what is the purpose?
And that's where a lot of people don't want to go.
They just don't want to go there.
That's scary.
If this doubling of the debt, if the destruction of the American economic engine, if it is being done on purpose, it's natural to say why.
And people just don't want to go there because they don't want to contemplate what it means because after you figure out what it means, it's a call to action.
You have to stop it.
Remember, it was Obama who promised a new era of fiscal responsibility.
Look what we've gotten instead.
One more from Ryan.
This is uh again from his announcement.
Here he is getting ahead of the conspiracy conspiracy theorists.
Let me ask anybody who is listening this.
What if your Congressman, your president saw it coming?
What if they knew it was gonna happen?
What if they knew why it was gonna happen, when it was gonna happen, what nature, and more importantly, what if they knew what could be done to prevent it from happening, and if they had time to prevent it, but they decided not to because it wasn't good politics.
What would you think of your president, your member of Congress?
Well, God, that is where we are right now.
This is the most predictable economic crisis in our history.
And what are we doing playing politics?
Damn right.
Great question.
If your president saw it coming, you know it's coming.
You know it's unsustainable.
Everybody involved, Harry Reed, Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, all of these people with the cliched 30-year-old objections, they all know where we're headed.
They don't want to do anything about it.
We are there now.
I love the way he puts this, the most predictable economic crisis in our history.
There's no mystery about where we are headed.
Even the socialists in Europe have figured it out.
The socialists in Europe have learned that their way is unsustainable.
It can't go on.
How come Obama's not doing what they're doing in Europe?
We're in the same boat.
In Europe, they're dialing it back.
We're heading down the same tracks they have already been down.
They're trying to reverse course.
Obama has to know.
In answering Paul Ryan's question, what if they knew it was going to happen?
What if they knew why?
When?
What nature?
What if they knew what could be done to prevent it?
That's the question.
Obama knows what needs to be done to prevent it.
So does Bernie Sanders, so does Obama, so does Pelosi, so does Reed, so do all of them.
They're not willing to do one thing to stop it.
So the question why flashes strobe light big in front of your face.
Why?
What are we doing?
Why do they not want to stop where we are inexorably faced?
That's the question people really do not want to deal with the answer to.
All right, went back to the archives.
It's an AP story, February 25th.
It was a Friday.
Psst.
No shutdown during a government shutdown.
I have details coming up.
There's also uh polling data here, Washington Post poll.
Voters still split on blame for possible shutdown.
37 to 34 percent Republican Democrat.
Uh in 95, Clinton had a clear lead in the in the blame game.
It's pretty close.
It's within the margin of error here.
And of course, doesn't matter to me, but this is a difference between being on the radio and acquiring and holding an audience and being an elected official trying to get votes.
They have to be concerned about people who don't like them.
I don't.
People who don't like you will not vote for you.
People that don't like you on the radio will listen to you.
In fact, you got to keep giving them reasons to hate you.
That doesn't work in politics, but nevertheless, I would say the hell with the poll.
We're gonna do what's right here.
Heck with it.
Leadership, Ryan's talking about it.
You know, some of the Tea Party fresh, I'm not gonna mention any names.
But I'm hearing from them.
These were guys, and it's you know, the same thing that happened in 1994.
You remember snurdy, you remember Dick Chrysler?
Dick Chrysler was a member of the fresham class in 1994.
He came to my television show, and I remember when I went to the freshman orientation.
He was gung-ho, he's in Michigan, and he was gung-ho.
He was one of the uh 54 freshmen in New, they were stoked.
They couldn't wait to get there.
And I said, Well, what are you gonna do here?
What are you gonna do?
He said, Well, this is what we're gonna do.
We're gonna do X, Y, Z, A, B, and C, and it took about six months, and he figured out that it was his own leadership.
These are the new days, by the way, when when and that that leadership back then was cool.
I mean, it that the leadership of the 94-95 freshman class and the whole Republican conference, they were gung-ho, but even the freshmen that year learned that the Republican leadership was not as gung-ho as they were.
And after I forget what period of time, Chrysler and some of the other freshmen just went back home to the heck with it.
I'm hearing some of the sadly, some of the same complaints and laments.
I talked to these guys before this uh session started.
What are you gonna do?
Well, we're gonna go up there and we're gonna use leadership, we're gonna fix this, we're gonna turn this around, and they're depressed, some of them are.
Uh-huh.
And still are.
We'll be back.
No, what I was saying was I if I'm up there and I have said, all I've said about the future of the country, this level of debt, this level of spending can't be supported, plus we all know what this purpose of this spending is for.
There are there are uh efforts being made to totally restructure the way this country was founded.
There are people who want this to become a full-fledged socialist country where economic and individual liberty don't count.
Everybody is a ward of the state.
And the apparatus, the state process, they're the ones that have the riches.
They're the ones that have the wealth, and they're the ones that have the power, and they're the ones that put simply get to boss everybody around.
So we're headed in a way that the country as we've known it can't be sustained.
So I if I'm in Washington and I ran for uh election based on the premise that this has got to stop, and we have to reform and restructure the country and head it back in the direction the way it was found.
I wouldn't let some silly poll in a newspaper change my mind about it.
Such as a poll on who's gonna get blame for a government shutdown.
A shutdown that's really not even a shutdown in the first place.
But I must be fair.
One thing I do not lack is communication skills.
I am able to face millions of people behind a microphone and tell them exactly what I believe without nerves, without having any uh compunction about it, and I'm not worried about what the press does to me.
Now, also I have my own microphone I can go to if I am mischaracterized.
People on our side, and I'll tell you this, I've told you before, one of the big excuses the Republicans uh uh always offer as to why they don't get into a PR battle is they say, well, we won't get covered.
The press did they just won't cover what we say, or if they do cover it, they will make it up, they'll impugn, they will uh uh not get it right, they'll make fun of us or be critical or what have you.
To which my reaction is always and they do that anyway.
That's gonna happen anyway, so why not continue to fall on the side of doing what's what what's right.
You know, we own the facts, we may not own the narrative.
At some point we hope the facts overwhelm the narrative.
They can with enough passion.
Passion's the key to anything.
So we got this this Washington Post poll.
Voters still still split on blame for possible shutdown.
With a potential federal government shutdown, closing in, the public remains split down the middle when it comes to which side it would blame for a work stoppage.
In the poll, 37% say they would fault Obama.
The same number would blame the Republicans in Congress 3737.
Now, the Washington Post poll does not give party affiliation.
We don't know the breakdown of Republicans and Democrats in this poll.
They uh they do cite party trends, which to me shows that this was skewed.
And the pollsters are catching on.
But I I think, as I read this, 3737, because Clinton in 95 had a huge advantage in the polls.
There was no question that it was going to be the Republicans blamed in 95.
3737, the way I look at this is I think the Washington Post is sending a veiled warning to the Democrats to be careful here.
That's the way I look at it.
And notice also if you read the whole story that the poll pits the Republicans versus the sincere Mr. Obama.
It does not ask for opinions about the motives of the Democrat Party in these negotiations.
Why is that?
It asks about the motives of the Republicans in shutting down the government, but not the Democrats.
There is, I I think I think there's an attempt here by the Washington Post to warn the Democrats about this.
3737, that's not the way it ought to be.
It ought to be slam dunk, a majority blaming the Republicans.
But not even the Washington Post can make that happen in their poll.
I would also say it's probably not 3737.
Probably structured it in such a way so they can report it that way.
Let me grab a couple phone calls here before we resume with discussions of this.
Sheridan in Phelan, California.
Is that right, Phelan, California?
Yes, it is.
How are you?
I am fine.
How are you?
Very well, thank you.
Good.
Um, I had a thought about the shutdown thing.
And um, if you think about it, they're off every weekend.
They're off for about 10 holidays a year.
And that's about 30% of the of the year they're gone and nobody dies.
That's uh that's uh that's right.
Yeah.
It's very true.
Well, in fact, since you've mentioned that, let me cite for you here uh again the AP story that ran on February 25th.
Psst.
This is the headline.
Psst.
No shutdown during a government shutdown.
Social security checks would still go out.
Troops would remain at their posts.
Furloughed federal workers probably would get paid, though not until later.
Which is what happened in the last shutdown.
Not only did they get paid, they got their turkeys for Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Virtually every essential government agency like the FBI, the border patrol or Coast Guard would remain open.
Which is a direct contradiction of the lies that Reed and Pelosi, the rest of the Democrats have been spreading about a possible shutdown.
It's a little known truth about a government shutdown.
The government does not shut down.
Now, at the time, February 25th, we couldn't figure out why is the AP reporting this?
Why what is this?
And it had to be that even back then, the AP, the media knew that the Democrats might get blamed.
There's only one reason to run a story like this.
There's only one reason to run a story that says there's really no shutdown when the government shuts down.
And that's to protect the Democrats or whoever's gonna get blamed for it.
And then the EAP says, and it won't shut down on March 5th, even if the combatants on Capitol Hill can't resolve enough differences to pass a stopgap spending bill to fund the government while they hash out legislation to cover the last seven months of the budget year, fewer than half of the 2.1 million federal workers subject to a shutdown to be forced off the job if the Obama regime followed the path taken by Presidents Reagan,
George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, and that's not counting 600,000 post office employees, or 1.6 million uniformed military personnel exempt from a shutdown.
So I remember saying back in February 25th, what is this?
AP is tacitly admitting that it's actually the president who initiates these government shutdowns by path taken by Reagan, H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, why they're even saying presidents cause these things.
AP, so we're talking fewer than one in four federal workers staying at home.
Many federal workers get paid on March 4th, so it would take a two week shutdown for them to see a delay in their paychecks.
The air traffic control system, food inspection, Medicare, veterans' health care, many other essential government programs would run as usual.
The Social Security Administration would not only send out benefits, but they would continue to take applications.
The Postal Service would keep delivering the mail.
Federal courts would remain open.
Great lengths to assure everybody that a government shutdown is not a government shutdown.
And as I say, the only reason for doing this is if their party looks like it's going to be blamed for it.
All right, Susan in Arlington, Virginia, I'm glad you waited.
Great to have you with us on the EIB network.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
How are you?
Very well, thank you.
You know, one of the uh significant components of Representative Ryan's budget is to repeal Obamacare.
Right.
And I think he has effectively intellectually and consistently argued as to what damage Obamacare can do to our to our country and to our budget.
But I also want to add, let's let's go back to your discussion yesterday about McDonald's planning to fill what, 50,000 flaws.
Yeah, they want to hire 50,000 people in one day.
Right.
Well, let's not forget.
Back in October of 2010, McDonald's received a waiver from Obamacare.
Yeah, that's true.
Now, what does that tell us?
You take off, you take the onerous burden of Obamacare off business, and you get jobs.
You you eliminate Obamacare like what Paul Ryan is suggesting, and it helps in our budget.
I guess he he argues so effectively along these lines, and I'm still scratching my head, trying to figure out what dim or liberal could stand toe-to-toe with this guy and argue against him on the facts.
They aren't think of anybody.
They won't argue on the facts.
That's what they're they're using, as I point out, the 30-year-old cliches.
Right of starving elderly people kicked out of their homes, no social security checks, while the rich get tax cuts.
That's all they can do.
They're not going to take him on personally.
But he wants them attacking this stuff the way they always do.
He's setting it up.
He wants them to demagogue it.
He said as much.
He wants them to dig up demagogue and distort this thing.
He wants this to call them out.
Yes, McDonald's business.
It shows it shows that not only did it illustrate what you said, and that is grant a waiver from the Obama health care law, and they have money to go out and hire, what it also did was put the lie to the notion that they didn't provide health care for people.
All this time people were thinking that fast food restaurants never provided health care for their employees, those dirty, rotten, creepy companies.
And now all of a sudden we learned that we were lied to about that.
We learned that in order for them to stay open and continue to have hamburger flipper jobs, they had to get a waiver in order to be able to provide the existing health care plans for their people.
So so much of what we're told by the left for the media is an out and out lie.
And also, we pointed out yesterday, Susan, I'm sure you recalled this.
Go back to the 80s.
Or any time that there is a Republican president.
And we're talking employment or unemployment.
And if fast food restaurants start to hire, the left and the media say, well, big deal, or just they're they're dead-end hamburger flipper jobs.
Big deal.
Those aren't real jobs.
You can't feed a family of four flipping burgers.
So those jobs are always denigrated, ripped to shreds.
But now that Obama is president and McDonald's announces a plan to hire 50,000 people in one day to work at McDonald's doing what?
Flipping burgers?
Why all of a sudden those are great jobs.
All of a sudden, those are worthwhile, very solid, very important jobs.
And those jobs indicate an economic recovery.
We're coming back, folks.
I cannot describe for you the level which I detest.
The people on the left and the lengths they go to to shape public opinion in ways to try to get people to really hate this country and to hate success stories in this country.
They do.
You take a look at the Democrat Party's enemies list, and it's practically anybody.
Individual corporation, small business doesn't matter, who is successful.
And somehow they have ended up the enemy.
They are the ones that bullseye targets on the front and backs of their shirts.
And we're back.
Rush Limbaugh starting a million conversations.
Mind over chatter.
Savoy, Texas.
Hello, Pat.
Your turn.
You're up next.
Hi.
Oh, hi, Rush.
How are you?
Very well, thank you.
I've been trying to get a hold of you for years.
I finally got through.
I'm excited.
I'm a little nervous, but I'll get try to get my point across.
You don't sound nervous at all.
I just want to.
Oh, okay.
Well, I just I was telling Sarley, I really don't give a rat's behind if the government shuts down.
It won't affect me in the least.
And I I it's not really going to shut down anyway.
Um, I'm so weary of these lily-livered, spineless jackasses running our country.
They're doing it on purpose.
I know they're doing it on purpose.
And you know, when are people gonna get their heads out of their butts?
Why are they doing it on purpose, do you think?
Why?
Because he can't be that stupid.
I think somebody else is running the whole show anyway.
I think he's just a puppet.
I think they're all just puppets.
I just wish our they would get their butts out of their their heads out of it.
Okay, so let me let me let me explore something with you.
You think that there is and but I'm I'm I'm not disagreeing, and I'm not challenging you.
Don't misinformate.
Don't misunderstand my tone.
Here, I'm not I just I want to know what you really think.
Do you think, for example, that it doesn't matter who is elected president, that there is somebody or some group of people that gives the president the agenda.
Marching here's what's going on.
No, not everybody.
This one in particular.
And I've suspected it since he was running before he even got elected.
Well, who do you think it is?
Soros.
George Soros.
Soros ruined five countries already.
Why not try for America?
Well, we are facing a declining dollar.
He does like I mean, nobody would do he likes to destroy currencies, there's no question about it.
Have to be.
Well, you're not the only one who thinks that.
I mean, you know, these these I mean, it is a train wreck, and it's just a train wreck, and they better man up.
I mean, they're a bunch of cowards up there in DC.
I mean, we voted you guys in, didn't we?
And we can get you out just as easily with our vote.
All right, now you just do what you're doing.
Well, wait just a second now.
Let's explore this.
If George Soros is the puppet master of Barack Obama, that's a pretty powerful guy.
Who's to say that Soros does not have uh the ability to instill similar control or fear in other Washington people, House Republicans, Senate Republicans?
Who's to say that his only uh puppet is Obama?
Well, judging by what's up there right now, and they don't have any cahoonies, it's very possible he could do it to one of them too.
I wish they'd just get somebody in there that would say, screw you, I'm doing it my way, and I'm gonna do it for my country.
I mean, shoot, I got more cahoonies than these people do.
Um I'm a Navy brat.
My father was a lifer in the Navy.
I was raised to har work hard, American dream, whole shebang.
I'm running.
Well, I understand I'm taking care of a 90-year-old woman, mother right now.
God bless you.
I understand all this.
You know?
But when I hear these theories, you know, I try to visualize them in action.
Okay, here's Soros.
Soros a puppet master.
They're visualizing.
He calls Obama, he sends him emails as emissaries.
I mean, how does it happen?
I'm not disagreeing with you.
I'm just sharing with you now how does it happen?
Why does it happen?
How why does Obama let it happen?
Soros put in there, Obama's nothing without Soros?
What does Soros have on Obama that would make Obama go along with Soros wants?
Or does Obama and Soros do they both agree intellectually with what's happening?
These are the questions I ask about when I hear people think that this kind of thing happens.
And if it's if Soros has this kind of sway over one guy, why is it stopped with just one guy Obama?
Why not others?
Oh my gosh, the ACLU has condemned the decision for military trials at Club Gitmo.
The ACLU has come out against Eric Holder and Obama.
Now, if the ACLU says something is wrong, you know it must be right.
But it's fascinating.
Read their press release here.
I have it, my formerly nicotine-stained fingers, which you'll hear shortly.
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