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March 1, 2011 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 1, 2011, Tuesday, Hour #2
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And greetings once again to your music lovers, thrill seekers, conversationalists all across the fruited plane.
Rush Limbaugh back talent on loan from God.
And our phone number when we get back to the phones is 800-282-2882.
The email address El Rushbo at EIBnet.com.
And by popular demand, ladies and gentlemen, we present to you Donald Trump live here on the EIB Network.
Donald, great to have you here, sir.
And how are you today?
I am well, Rush, and I know you're well, and I love your show.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate that.
Now, let me tell you what happened here.
Last week, after your CPAC speech a couple weeks ago, I got a bunch of people phoning here wanting to know.
They're taking you seriously.
I think you're running for president.
You're seriously considering it.
You go to CPAC, they're going to take you seriously.
Right.
And a couple people wanted to know.
They had learned that you had given some money to Rom Emmanuel's mayoral campaign, Chicago.
They asked me, how can a guy wants the Republican nomination do that?
I said, well, he's got business in Chicago.
Chicago is Chicago.
And that didn't sit well with him.
So I thought, I'm going to have Mr. Trump on and ask him myself.
So I'm asking you so that they can hear your answer.
Good, Rush.
I like actually giving the answer.
Number one, I do business all over the country.
And like, as an example, I'm from New York, which is a almost exclusively Democratic state.
So over the years, Republicans, in many cases, don't even run a candidate, sadly.
And I'd say very sadly.
Now, Ari Emmanuel, who's, you know, if you look, they did entourage on Ari Emmanuel.
That's my agent.
Rahm is his brother.
Ari's a great friend of mine.
I saw you at the Oscars.
That was yours today, right?
Right.
Well, you know, The Apprentice, which is going on on Sunday night, is this big, successful show.
But Ari Emmanuel is the biggest agent, I guess, in this country.
And he represents me.
His brother's running.
And frankly, they don't even have a Republican candidate running.
You know, over there in Chicago, they have like Democrats, and they're all running as Democrats, essentially.
But there's no Republican or a Republican that's going to get more than, you know, anything more than 0% of the vote.
So I like Rom.
I've always liked him as a person.
And more importantly, Ari, his brother, is my agent.
So I did make a contribution to him.
And frankly, I don't think they had any Republicans running.
So you value friendships.
I'm very loyal to people, Rush.
I mean, I see a lot of disloyalty around.
I'm very loyal to people.
And that supersedes, frankly, party lines.
But I'm very, very loyal to people.
And I'm also very loyal to people that I think are good for the country.
Why are you thinking about running for president?
You sound, I mean, I've talked to you over the years.
I've listened to you on various places in the media for years.
You sound different this time.
You sound really ticked off.
China, the economic direction of the country.
You sound like it's really bothering you now, more than just something to say.
Well, you're right about that, Rush.
I've seen what's happened to this country.
We're no longer respected.
You have places like China, and I know the Chinese.
I do business with the Chinese.
I've made a lot of money off the Chinese.
Believe me, I had a partnership with Chinese people.
It wasn't fun, and I made a lot of money.
I came out very, very strong.
So why are you ripping them now?
Because I watch them and I see what they're doing to the country.
And I understand China, and I understand the Chinese mind.
I understand where they're coming from.
They are not our friend.
And when I sit down, I sold an apartment recently for $33 million from a very nice couple from China.
They had $33 million for the apartment.
I'm very happy about it.
But I sit down with people and I talk to them from China, and really much more so prior to when I thought I may be running for president because they're not stupid people.
They're very smart people.
They told me very, very distinctly that they cannot believe how stupid our representatives are in the United States.
They cannot believe that they can continue to take all our jobs, you know, through the manipulation of the currency, of their currency, they make it almost impossible for our great companies to compete.
Would you explain the actual manifestation of that?
First off, what are they doing in manipulating their currency?
And for the average guy that doesn't understand all this, how does that affect jobs and imports, exports here?
Very good.
China should have a currency which is a much higher value relative to the dollar and other things.
What they're doing is keeping it low, artificially low.
And I mean seriously artificial.
I don't just mean a little bit low.
I mean major low.
Now, when a guy comes to Donald Trump who wants to put up a glass curtain wall or an aluminum something or even brick or sheetrock, and you saw what happened with the sheetrock, people are dying over Chinese sheetrock.
Because I will say this, and I have to interject.
Our products are better than the Chinese product.
We do a better job, so we make better products.
But because the currency is so low versus the dollar versus other things, and so much lower than it should be, it's very hard to compete for our companies.
As an example, recently I built a building and I put a curtain wall on it, an exterior wall, very expensive building, very beautiful wall.
And the American companies that competed, the pricing was much higher because they couldn't compete against the low-valued yuan.
And they just couldn't compete with it, Rush.
And I hated to give out the contract, but the contract is almost, it's almost impossible for somebody like me that obviously wants to build the building for the best price possible.
It's almost impossible to compete.
I wanted to go American, and I often do.
I mean, even if it's close, I go American.
But it's very hard for our companies to compete because they keep it artificially low.
Just take a look.
We have the Olympics.
They have gymnasts.
Oh, no, these gymnasts are all 14 or 15 or whatever the minimum age.
Well, they didn't look it to anybody.
They were phenomenal.
But don't forget, they're not under pressure because all they want to do is they're playing to their mommy, not to 20 billion people.
So they had the gymnasts.
Well, it turned out that the gymnasts were a fraud and their medals were taken away and China knew all about it.
The same thing with the singer at the Olympics.
You had this unbelievably beautiful young woman who had the greatest voice anyone's ever had.
Yes, this is her voice.
She sang their national anthem.
It turned out that she wasn't singing.
It was a fraud.
They said it was her.
You got to say, I know.
Well, now, wait a second.
We're not only talking about this one country.
You look at South Korea, what they did.
We signed a trade pact that nobody in their right mind would have signed.
And it was so bad, and yet they didn't want to sign it.
Now, two months ago, when bombs started getting lobbed over by North Korea, and we send this incredible aircraft carrier, the George Washington, and 17 destroyers heading right to North Korea, all of a sudden they sign and they announce that they are friends of our country.
It's a lot of crap.
They make billions of dollars of, let's call it profit off the United States, Rush.
Billions of dollars.
Why aren't they paying for protection?
Well, we protect South Korea.
And I know the Koreans very well.
I had a partnership with the Koreans.
It was a fantastic partnership.
I built Trump World Tower with Daewoo, which was a Korean company.
And I did very well, and they did very well.
So I understand the people.
And by the way, I don't dislike the Chinese people.
I don't dislike the Korean.
But what I do, because if I were them, I'd be doing the same thing.
If our leaders are so stupid that they allow what's happening, we can't have jobs created, Rush, in this country if China is making all of our products.
This is what I want to ask you about, because the way the Chinese are presented to the average American here, and in listening to you, it's somewhat similar.
They're relatively omnipotent.
On the one hand, they can devalue their currency.
Apparently, without doing much harm to themselves, they can do this as a strategy to destroy our economy.
At the same time, they own an ever-increasing amount of our debt.
You said we have stupid leaders here.
It's almost as though this stuff can't happen in a vacuum.
There has to be some reason this has been permitted to happen.
It is actually happening in a vacuum.
Now, look, the debt is not a problem because, hey, look, nobody, Rush, over the years I've done tremendous business with banks.
I work things out with banks, and it's not difficult if you know what you're doing.
If you don't know what you're doing, it's devastating.
Because I have friends that are laying in the gutter right now that were rich people, and they're no longer rich people because of what the banks did to them.
The fact is that the Chinese are taking advantage of our country.
The Chinese, and by the way, and the Chinese can't even believe that they're getting away with it.
Well, it's more than taking advantage.
You said earlier they do look at us as an enemy.
Oh, they view us as an enemy.
Yeah, they really view us as an enemy.
Well, what would they be very militant toward the United States?
And I don't even think the United States knows it.
What would constitute victory to them then?
What is their objective via us?
Well, you know, without military, and if you look at what they're doing, they're building military now.
They just opened up plants to start building jetliners so that, you know, that little trivial order that they gave to Boeing just to be nice, because guys like me are talking about what a rip-off.
When you think about President Obama, he gives the President of China a five-star dinner at the White House.
When somebody rips me off, I don't give them five-star dinners, and neither do you, Rush, because I know you well, and you don't give five-star dinners.
If you look at what's happening, they give a $40 billion order, which is not a big deal, to Boeing.
In other words, they want to walk off the plane and give us something after taking out trillions of dollars in this country.
So they give this order.
But look at what they're really doing to Boeing.
They're now taking technology and everything else, and they're opening up their own airline manufacturing plant.
They're going to make big airlines to compete with Boeing and Eurobus.
They're going to be opening up their own.
Watch what happens within a few years with respect to Boeing.
That order will not be so important.
And by the way, they'll never buy planes from us.
They will only buy those planes from their Chinese company that they're forming and that they're starting.
That's going to be a very devastating blow to Boeing.
You watch what happens.
But when I look at what's going on with China, when I look at what's going on with OPEC, when I look at oil prices hitting $100 a barrel, and if you remember three years ago, Rush, oil prices were a little bit higher than they are right now.
$148.
Yeah.
And we'll be up there pretty soon because there's nobody to call OPEC.
You know, if it weren't for us, why do we have troops in Saudi Arabia?
We have troops in Saudi Arabia.
Can you imagine they're not paying us with the money they're making?
They're making more money than any countries have ever made in the history of the world, legitimately, making that kind of money.
They form OPEC.
They have 12 men, in this case, all men.
They sit around a table.
Anytime there's a minor incident in the world, they raise the price of oil because they figure, well, nobody's going to call.
When oil goes over $40 a barrel, it's almost impossible for our country to do well.
That's what it is.
I mean, you look at oil.
Now, we're up to $100 now.
We're heading up.
They keep raising it.
When oil goes over $40, watch what happens.
And the stock market is going to end up being a big Ponzi scheme because the only thing that's doing well in this country is the stock market.
Well, that's because of the Federal Reserve.
Have you got you got a couple minutes more?
Yes, I do.
I got to take a quick timeout.
Sure.
Because I want to find out what you would do about all this.
Okay.
All right, we'll be back.
Donald Trump, when we get back.
Don't go away.
And we are back with Donald Trump.
Donald, the things you've articulated on China, I think most people are going rah-rah, agreeing with.
And I think they totally understand it.
Why do you think it's not clear to more people in our government?
Do you think Obama understands it the way you do?
What would you do if you were president to deal with all this?
Well, you know, Rush, I talk about China and other countries, by the way, but I talk about China because they're the worst abuser.
And we have this independent group of people that formed shouldtrumprun.com.
And we have over 400,000 people already signed up.
And what I don't understand, but I think maybe there is an understanding down deep, I believe it could be the lobbyists because so many people love what I say on China.
They know it's true.
When Ben Bernanke gets up and says jobs won't be good for another five years, now that sounds like a long time, but I disagree.
I don't think jobs will ever be good if we keep going on this policy because we're not making anything anymore.
China and other countries are making our products.
We are rebuilding China.
So I say it over and over again.
I do your show.
I do today's show.
And I say it.
And everybody loves it.
And yet no politician ever says what I'm saying.
And then they give, as I said, five-star dinners at the White House.
So 400,000 people in ShouldTrumpRun.com, and yet nobody is.
So what I think it is, is the politicians are all taken over by the lobbyists.
I really believe that the lobbyists keep them shut up because China and Chinese companies have all got tremendous lobbyists.
OPEC has got a monopoly.
If you try and get a lobbyist in Washington to go against OPEC, they'll say, oh, this is great.
Donald Trump wants me to be the lobbyist.
And then they'll go and check and say, oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Trump, we can't represent you.
We represent OPEC or one of the 12 nations.
So it's really, in my opinion, it has to be the lobbyists because I'll say this.
Everybody will agree with me.
And I know you agree with me, but everybody will agree with me.
And then the politicians don't speak up.
And I think they don't speak up because their local lobbyist has them shut up.
Well, could there be an element of fear?
I mean, people aren't afraid of the United States anymore, Donald.
No, they're not.
We're not respected.
And one of the reasons I'm seriously thinking about running, and I mean seriously thinking, is that this is not a respected country anymore.
I love this country.
It's got potential to be great again.
But really, Rush, it's not great right now.
It's not great.
China in 12 years or less will take over as the number one nation in the world from an economic standpoint.
And we're doing it.
We're doing it.
Now, you asked me before, what would I do?
I would tell China that if you don't straighten out your manipulation of the currency, and I mean fast, I mean really fast, we are going to tax your products 25%.
Now, what that will do is two things.
Number one, immediately we'll start doing our own manufacturing.
We don't have to make toys that are coated with lead-colored paint in China.
We can make good toys in Alabama.
How about Chinese screws?
I mean, Chinese screws, you better not assemble anything with a screw made in China or you'll be screwed.
They call it the counterfeiters.
I mean, and even, by the way, even those laws, those laws are so bad for us in China.
We make a product here and they copy it in China, and they couldn't care less about infringement or anything else.
We talk about the environmentalists.
You know, they all want us to make our plans so that nothing can go into the air.
Do you think China is doing that?
They laugh at us.
They talk green, but they're not green.
They talk green, but they're, and this is all, this isn't just me saying it on the basis of common sense.
These are the biggest people in China who sit down with me and talk to me, and they can't believe what they're getting away with.
I'll give you a little interesting thing, and this is nothing much, and I shouldn't even waste your program's time by saying it.
But I noticed at the White House, they give a lot of balls for people, and some should have balls.
I mean, if you look at Britain, if you look at certain places, they've come through, and they've been good allies, and we should have balls and all that.
So I have, as you know, because you're in Palm Beach, I have the greatest ballroom probably in the world.
I built it five years ago, and it's one of the great ballrooms of the world.
It's at the Mar-a-Lago Club.
And I see that at the White House, the White House, Washington, D.C., when a dignitary comes in from India, from anywhere, they open up a tent.
They have a tent.
A tent.
Yeah, nothing.
A lousy-looking tent, an old rotten tent that, frankly, they probably rent and pay a guy millions of dollars for it, even though it's worth about $2, okay?
So they have a tent for a dignitary that comes in.
So recently, a couple of months ago, I called up the White House.
I said, listen, I'm really good at this stuff.
I will build you a magnificent ballroom.
We'll go through committees.
You know, you have all sorts of things with committees.
We'll go through committees.
We'll pick the one they like.
We'll pick the architect everybody likes.
We'll pick something that we'll do 10 designs.
You'll pick the one that's the greatest with the greatest architecture.
I will build it free.
So that's anywhere from $50 million to $100 million gift.
I will give that.
And I mean, I'm talking Rush.
It's the first time I've said this.
I'm talking to the biggest person, one of the biggest people at the White House.
I'm not talking to a low-level person.
Right.
One of the most important people.
I will build a White House a ballroom.
So when the head of India comes to town, we can give him a five-star dinner in a magnificent ballroom befitting of this country and the White House, right?
They never got back to me.
It's a $100 million gift.
They never got back to me.
Of course not.
They think you're a Republican.
Well, but they never got back to me, Rush.
Whether I'm a Republican or an Independent or a Democrat, they never got back to me.
If I was a Republican, they should do it anyway.
They should say, Trump's going to give us $100 million.
He's going to build the ballroom.
It's going to be magnificent.
And why wouldn't they get back to me?
That's the problem with this country.
It's like no common sense.
They have no – let me give you another example.
We talk about not only China, Korea.
So when we send the George Washington, the most magnificent aircraft carrier I've ever seen, when we send the George Washington and 17 destroyers, we head them to North Korea to protect South Korea.
Why doesn't South Korea pay us for that?
You know how much that costs just to turn on the engines of the George Washington?
Oh, yeah.
Okay, you know what I'm talking about.
You turn those engines on, and that sucker costs you $100,000, okay?
I mean, just to turn the key is $100,000.
Now, they're steaming toward North Korea.
And by the way, the only reason that North Korea backed down was because they saw these ships steaming in their direction.
And that's all fine.
Why isn't South Korea sending us a check for $100 million for saving them and the protection?
Why are we sending all these ships with all of these sailors and all of these soldiers over there?
Why aren't they protecting us?
And they make hundreds LG.
I buy hundreds of them.
LG.
They make all of these television sets and all of these products that we take into this country.
By the way, we sign an agreement, Rush, which allows them to sell.
But if we go to them, it's very hard for us to sell in South Korea.
It's very hard for us.
Not only have you, Rush, we actually have something where over a five-year period, they treat us a little bit better.
It's an absolute change.
I have to stop you.
I've only got 30 seconds left here, and I know you're busy.
And I wish I wanted to talk about Wisconsin with you and get your thoughts on what's going on with the public sector union thing.
I will have to do that at another time.
Absolutely.
But I want to thank you for your time here and your willingness to make yourself available.
Well, absolutely, Rush, and I really enjoy your show, and I really enjoy you.
And a lot of people enjoy you very much, Rush.
They just don't like saying it.
They don't like giving you the credit that you deserve.
Thank you very much.
Donald Trump from New York, and we will be right back after this.
Say whatever you will about Donald Trump.
There's one thing nobody can deny, and that is he has a can-do spirit, good old American can-do spirit.
And Trump's can-do spirit is backed up with Trump's can-do action.
It really is.
You know, I would love to see a debate on economics between Trump and Obama.
Mr. Scholar, Mr. Faculty Lounge extraordinaire versus Mr. Real World Builder.
And I mean, I would love to Obama wouldn't even get out his first sentence by the time Trump had given 10 answers.
Anyway, we still have lots of stuff here to do in the stacks of stuff.
The health care bill, talk about that.
This Obama supports easing health law mandate for this.
Let me just summarize very quickly what that New York Times story yesterday was all about.
It's very, very simple, folks.
This compromise with the states, Obama supports easing health law mandates for states.
In a nutshell, what Obama is offering with this great compromise is that the states, he's offering them waivers.
The states will have three years longer before they have to start taxing the uninsured by the fines.
But in order to get that waiver, they'll have to meet Obama's quota for the number of people they coerce into buying health insurance.
It's up to them how they do it.
But that's what this little Obamacare compromise is really all about.
It's not a compromise.
It's a quasi-waiver, and it's all for show.
It's all to make it look like Obama moving to the center, willing to compromise this mandate.
Mandate's unconstitutional.
Okay, let's remove the mandate as the centerpiece here that we're talking about.
And let's bring it back to insuring the uninsured.
It's all a trick.
The one thing leftists will never do is lose sight of their goal.
In this case, it's single-payer.
Government-run healthcare.
This is just, okay, they've got to change the route to get there now.
But that's what's up.
So anyway, we're going to go to the phones.
People have been waiting since the show started, and we haven't yet taken a call.
So we'll start in Napa, California.
Eric, great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Rush, thank you for taking my call.
Yes, sir.
Hey, what a pleasure, boy.
Really enjoyed hearing your speech or talking with Donald Trump there.
Thank you for sharing that.
You bet, sir.
Hey, the reason I was calling, in talking yesterday with the president, speaking to the governors, I really felt like that entire speech that he gave was just a socialist manifesto.
And we should just keep replaying clips of that until the next election.
But even in the president trying to give a very backhanded compliment to the private sector and the private industry and to entrepreneurialism as a whole, he made the comment.
He said that while he understood that it was going to be the businesses and the private sector that led to the resurgence of the economy, he said that it was the research and development that was really the roots and the foundation to that growth, and that it was the government that led the way in research.
And it was just a total of, well, it's the benevolence of the government that even gives the business the ability to make the economy grow.
That's what people like him think.
They believe that government picks and chooses winners.
believe that government somehow funds research and development.
Somebody like Obama really does believe that everything great has its has it has a link to government somehow.
To people like myself, it almost makes you sick to your stomach when you hear that.
And more so when you hear it and it's not challenged anymore.
And that's what was so frustrating in listening to that.
Who did you expect to challenge it?
Well, I saw Chris Christie sitting in the audience.
You hope he would have stood up and said something.
No, that wasn't the point.
Some of those Chris Christie down the line might.
Look, these guys are not going to openly.
Obama shows up, let him speak, and get out of there.
They're not going to prolong the guy's visit.
They don't want to get into a debate with him.
They understand it's a pro forma thing.
The national governor's meeting and the president has to show up.
I mean, this is this is, have you ever gotten an invitation to something?
You agreed to go to it the day of the event.
Why did I, ah, I don't want to do this.
Why did I agree?
Well, that's what this is.
It's pro forma.
It's perfunctory.
And so, okay, you go.
Your president shows up.
Get him in.
Get him out as quick as possible.
And whatever he says, deal with it later on your terms in your forum.
They know they're not going to be able to debate the guy.
So if you're waiting for Chris Christie to respond, at some point he will, or somebody else in that audience will, or as you have now.
You didn't even need a governor to respond.
All you needed was the EIB network and luck and Snurdley being in a good mood putting your call up.
So it all worked out for you.
Happy as you can be.
That's the way it's all worked out.
But I guarantee you're not going to have these guys stand up and take issue with the president that thing like this.
It sometimes happens.
I remember the president showed up at a Republican retreat, congressional retreat in Baltimore the first year or at the health care summit.
Remember Paul Ryan and a couple guys at the White House tried to say Obama just stared daggers at him and moved on.
You learn that that event is not the forum for rebuttal and getting it done.
Anyway, I mean, you can see even when Obama speaks to the governors, you can see what his priorities are when all the jobs from the stimulus go to union workers.
He's out there still praising the stimulus today.
He's got a bunch of bunk analysis of the stimulus, how wonderful it was and the jobs that it created.
All those shovel-ready jobs had to go to union shovelers.
We know where the money laundering just continues.
These governors all know it.
So I say, the time to speak up about it is going to be one of their choosing.
This is Polly, one of my all-time favorite top 10 female names, Polly from Buffalo.
Polly, welcome to the EIB network.
Rush, you are a breath of free speech.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
A speaker of truth and a story, case closed.
I want to ask you, what hope we have here in New York fighting union entitlements when approximately 25% of our workforce is unionized?
But also, just 70 short years ago, our fathers fought and died for liberty and to stop the spread of communism.
And today we have a dictator in practice who wants to send his communist friends to fight with the unions.
So I just, how did we forget that?
We haven't forgotten it.
We haven't forgotten it.
It's that there's two things.
Some people don't want to admit that that's what the battle is.
And I have never been so afraid for my country since November 2nd, 2008.
Understand that.
It's like, yeah, some people still, they might agree with you that Obama's not what he seemed to be during the campaign.
Obama's not, but they're not yet ready to admit the guy's doing purposeful destruction to the economy.
They just don't think that's possible of an American president.
The President Z, so revered that they just can't believe that the American people would elect somebody who's got a design on this economy of total change that would end up wrecking capitalism and replacing it.
The second aspect that you have to deal with is that those people never go away.
I mean, the Obamas of the world, the leftists never go away.
They never give you a sense that they've ever been beaten because they never go away.
So it's an ongoing, never-ending battle.
It's very rare you get to claim victory.
And I think that's very frustrating to people.
At some point, you want to be able to say you've won.
If not the war, you want to be able to say you've won a battle.
But the moment you win a battle and you know you've won it, the war continues because these people know they're like cockroaches.
They just keep coming back.
And so there's, you look at November.
Take a look at what's happening right.
November, the biggest shellacking the Democrat Party has faced in decades, all the way down to the state legislative level.
They got creamed.
They lost the House of Representatives a huge margin.
I mean, it's just, they barely have control of the Senate in a functioning way.
The president has a higher disapproval than he does approval.
And yet, the news today is how the Republicans are losing in the state of Wisconsin.
And they're losing on the budget battle.
And they're losing on the unions.
And they're losing all because of a bunch of phony, fraudulent polling data.
I mean, these people just never go away.
So you and others like you, even when you win, don't get to celebrate it because it doesn't last long enough because you never get to get off the battlefield.
And that, I think, is an important point because not everybody wants to even get on the battlefield because they know once you get on it, you're never getting, once you take up this battle, once you take up this challenge, you're in it till you die.
Because these people aren't ever going away.
And the referees or whoever that's going to proclaim victory are never, they're not fair.
So it can be very dispiriting.
It's why I was saying earlier, you really do need to be confident of what you know, confident that what you believe is right, confident, confident enough to know when you're looking at total BS in the media.
You got to be so confident that they cannot shake you, because that's their whole modus operandi, is to separate you from your confidence, to separate you from what you get you questioning what you know to be true.
Break your spirit.
They can't beat you in the arena of ideas.
They try to beat you psychologically, public relations-wise, any number of ways.
So when that's going on, it's not like football season.
It ends.
The Super Bowl, you have a champion.
Super Bowl is every day in this game, and it never ends.
So you really never get to celebrate victory.
You have to do this every day.
And that's why you get, I think, experience the frustration levels.
And you are not alone.
Other people too.
Even when there's a big victory, you're told that you're losing.
And we'll be back.
Don't go away.
Now look, folks, at the end of the day, we have the most important characteristic on our side, and that's reality.
Reality and truth.
For instance, the case of Wisconsin, no matter what the Democrats say, no matter what the fraudulent polling data says, no matter how the media spends it, no matter how many fake polls they publish, Wisconsin is still in debt to the tune of $3.6 billion.
Wisconsin still cannot afford to pay public sector union people twice what the taxpayers of the state are earning.
The taxpayers of that state simply cannot afford to pay public sector unions what they are paying.
It cannot sustain itself.
That's the reality.
Now, they can spin it.
They can spin it all they want.
But eventually reality is going to catch up with them.
It has caught up with them.
That's what we're dealing with.
Now we got Greece.
Everybody said Greece is coming to America.
Greece has arrived.
It's in Wisconsin.
It's happening there.
They are going to get a huge reality slap.
And if you want to know another little truth here, they would love for you to believe that this is all over this precious, somehow God-created, God-granted right to collective bargaining.
But that's not what this is really all about.
What do you think it's really all about, El Snerdbow?
It's about the state of Wisconsin deducting the use, the dues automatically.
Walker wants to get away from it.
Walker wants the union to start, the members to start paying that.
He wants to get rid of the automatic deduction.
They don't want that to happen.
They don't want for their rank and file to actually see what the hell is happening here.
And that's every bit as big a part of this.
The unions want to keep their revenue stream, and that auto-deduction, the state automatic deduction is the revenue stream.
They have to keep that.
That's what's good.
They don't care about the kids.
They don't care about students.
They don't really care about their own union members.
They care about that revenue stream, that auto-deduction.
That's why they got thugs flying in from every state in the country and there to raise hell.
Pure and simple.
All right.
Tescadero, California, we have Matt.
Matt, great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Great to be here, Mr. Lindbaugh.
You bet, sir.
I wanted to talk to you about the furlough days in a lot of schools across the country, specifically mine.
It's the reason why I'm not in school today.
And there are five days this year where the teachers are forced to not work.
And it's just disgusting.
They have to do this.
They say save jobs and save the money.
But when you look at it, there's so much money that's going to other places.
It's unnecessary, so much within the school that's just wasted.
Yeah.
Yep.
There's a story in my stack here that some independent bunch of guys, for example, found things we've been talking about in this program for years, all of the redundant, duplicated programs of the federal budget, some $300 billion worth that the general accounting office is supposed to find, but didn't.
And just to illustrate what you're talking about, in Hawaii, I was in Hawaii over Christmas two Christmases ago, and at the time, I'd never heard of it, Matt, but they were in the middle of furlough Fridays.
Every Friday, the teachers were not teaching.
The school was closed.
It was a furlough program because they didn't have any money.
That was how they were saving money, was to get this.
So it's a four-day school week for the students, the pupils, and the teachers as well, furlough Fridays.
And it was longer than just for a month or so.
I think it was for the rest of the school year.
Wow.
Now, here's the difference.
I would have celebrated it as a student.
You know, I don't care.
We close the place.
I don't care what.
Snow, sleet, ice, nuclear attack.
I'm not going to close it.
You are to be applauded for being concerned here that your school's being shut down this way.
You're right to be suspicious of this.
There are any number of other places they can cut back to keep school open.
This is just the most dramatic way to illustrate they're not going to cut any money, then they're not going to cut any spending.
They're going to try to make it as hurtful and as harmful as they can to get everybody's attention, like yours.
Because the objective is to have nothing cut.
And then they talk about the cut.
So we're not spending enough money.
We spend way more money in private schools to give a better education, but let's spend more money on it.
Amen.
Poor money, poor money.
Amen, bro.
Go out.
I tell you what.
Go out and get Waving for Superman, the documentary.
Go get it.
It's available today on DVD or download it from iTunes, whatever.
Watch it, Matt.
It'll stoke you and give you a lot of ammo for what you're talking about.
Missing Wisconsin senators rely heavily on union campaign dollars in order to stay away.
It's exactly what I was talking about when I said these public sector unions are just money launderers, simply kick back money from the taxpayers to these Democrat politicians, in this case to replace their salaries that they're not getting so that they can stay away.
Okay, we got another exciting hour to go here, folks, as we move right along.
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