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July 2, 2010 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 2, 2010, Friday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 247 Podcast.
Well, this is a fine time to be fixing something.
Isn't there, Brian?
Greetings, my friends.
You know who I am, and you know what this is, and you know what day it is.
You know what all that money is live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
It's open line Friday.
Happy Dependence Day weekend, ladies and gentlemen.
Independence Day weekend officially upon us.
Happy to have you here.
Snerdley, rave reviewers on your impression of John Lewis.
Yesterday.
Telephone number open line Friday, 800-282-2882.
You ought to be on the program.
That's a number to call.
Friday, you get to talk about whatever you want.
Monday to Thursday, you can't do that.
If I don't care about it, we don't talk about it.
On Friday, if I don't care about it, you can talk about it.
And if I'm not interested, I'll try to pretend that I am.
Because I'm a nice guy.
If you want to go the email route, L Rushbow at EIB net.com.
No sooner, no sooner did I say or ask yesterday, you know, moving all these 70,000 sea turtle eggs from being ravaged by the oil spill in the Gulf Coast over to Cape Canaveral.
I said, what's gonna happen now?
I mean, they're gonna launch the shuttles over there.
And uh, well, I mean, you talk about light.
Try noise and fire.
And I speculated they'll have to do something.
I mean, we'll cancel the launches.
Ta-da-da-da-da-da.
NASA said yesterday, it was postponing the final two space shuttle launches, citing a delay in needed equipment.
Uh-huh.
NASA said that uh November 1st will be the launch of uh Space Shuttle Discovery.
You know what's interesting about that?
November 1st is the day we can all start turning our lights on on the beach.
That's when turtle season ends.
So the first short launch moved from wherever it was scheduled to November 1st.
The next one's going up in uh late November.
Oh, sorry, February 26th, which is two days before.
Turtle light season starts on March the first.
I knew this.
I knew this was gonna happen.
July 1st, yesterday, of course, the Obamacare Caucasian tax kicked in.
Uh tanning bids, and we've got from Americans for tax reform a list of the tax increases that are headed our way starting in January.
But before we get to that, you know, when you report a lie often enough, it becomes perceived as truth despite what you might be seeing.
Andrews Air Force Base today, President Obama cast the state of the economy in upbeat terms, and we're working right now on audio soundbite from uh last November of me reacting to Obama, basically saying ideally, identically word for word, what he said today about the economy.
It's pretty uh illustrative.
To every American who's looking for work, I promise you we're gonna keep on doing everything we can.
I'll do everything in my power.
Everything in my power to help our economy create jobs and opportunities for all people.
So he's talking to you personally, whenever you are, wherever you are.
And if Pelosi's out there saying the best job creation bill we've got is unemployment benefits.
It's I don't know, it doesn't, it doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense in any way, shape, manner, or form, but that's that's what she's out there saying.
Um, you know, the the numbers, we got the jobs numbered in it.
Unemployment fell from 9.7 to 9.5%.
But the reason is that 652,000 people dropped out of the workforce.
So there are there's a smaller universe of people who are counted.
652,000 people dropped out.
They're not even looking for work anymore.
It is it is a disaster.
It is an unmitigated disaster.
The employment circumstances, the economy overall, the numbers are all bent, they're rigged and spun.
Here's the keystone, I think, is to look at this year to year.
From last June to this June.
U three, which is the official unemployment rate, U6 is where they count those 652,000 who have given up work as unemployed.
That's what takes the real unemployment rate up to around 18%.
But the reported unemployment rate, June of 2010, 9.5%.
The official unemployment rate in June of 2009 was 9.5%.
U6, the real unemployment rate.
June 2010, 16.5%.
June 2009, 16.5%.
You will hear more spinners telling you how good or bad the figures are, but the essential reality is that from last June to this June, a one-year arc of the almost trillion dollar spending, there hasn't been any change.
The bottom line is zero change.
Probably it's gotten worse because all the people who have dropped out no longer working are even looking for work.
You know, we it it's I think we need to change the terms.
They call this U3 and U6.
Uh for unemployment three, unemployment six.
The government needs to change the titles.
F U three and FU six, because this is essentially what they have done to us.
The FU3 unemployment.
And the worst unemployment news is not even in the report.
You know what the worst unemployment news is?
Obama is still employed.
Gitner is still employed.
Bite me is still employed.
That's what's wrong with the unemployment numbers.
Obama is not among them.
Senator Bite Me is not among them.
Pelosi is not among them.
Dingy Harry is not among the unemployed, but that will happen soon.
Geitner is not among them.
And everybody's talking about what a surprise it was to see these numbers go down like this.
Um, in fact, you know the drive-by's are not even trying to spin this in a in a in a they I they they know they can't.
Uh they're not trying to say this is a fizzling recovery, we're putting a little dent in it here.
Um the fastest way, as I say, the fastest way to create jobs to get rid of Democrats in November is to add their names to the unemployment roles.
Nancy Pelosi just put the depends Independence Day.
Unemployment benefits create more jobs than any other initiative.
We have her saying this.
Yeah, grab grab audio soundbite number uh number 10, let's see if there's an yeah, 10 and 11.
Yesterday in Washington, D.C., you know, it's it's still up for grabs, and the jury is still out.
Is the woman really the dumbest woman on the face of the earth, or is all of this produced for her from some wordsmith like George Lackoff rhymes with?
Does this indicate that she thinks we're all stupid?
Does this indicate that she thinks that all the people who are not working who are receiving unemployment benefits are stupid, or is it that she is?
The jury is still out.
A reporter asked her yesterday, Congress is gonna leave with unemployment insurance not extended.
This is the second time y'all have recessed.
What do you say to those who are going to be losing their benefits?
How do you respond to the argument that maybe Congress shouldn't be extending unemployment benefits because it's a disincentive to people to look for work?
Let me say about unemployment insurance.
We talk about it as a safety net and the rest.
This is one of the biggest stimuluses to our economy.
The economist will tell you this money is spent quickly, it injects demand into the economy, and is job-creating.
It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name, because again, it is money that is needed for families to survive, and it is spent.
So it has a double benefit.
It helps those who've lost their jobs, but it also is a job creator.
So is is she really this stupid or does she think we are?
It's not that easily answered, snurtly.
I mean, certainly is in the she's that stupid.
Um anybody in a sixth grader would know that taking money out of the private sector and then putting it back in the private sector is not growing the private sector.
Taking money away from people who are working and giving it to people who aren't is not creating jobs.
Somebody at home getting an unemployment check is not working.
Um I it folks, it's just it's I'm just you let a Republican say anything like this, and they're gonna be drummed out of town in 24 hours on the basis that they're insensitive and stupid.
Pelosi's essentially, if we wanted to spin this the way the Democrat media would spin this if a Republican had said it.
Pelosi, elitist in her ivory tower, in their corporate jet with a 26 million dollar husband, telling people sitting at home on their sofas getting unemployment.
How's your job?
We're creating jobs by sending you a check.
A Republican would be called insensitive, stupid, condescending, pandering.
He she wasn't through.
She continued with this.
It's impossible to think of a situation where we would have a country that would say we're not going to have unemployment benefits, and the only people who want them are people who don't want jobs.
That's just so contrary to what our country is about.
And I reject uh that misrepresentation of the motivation for people to be on unemployment insurance.
Ms. Pelosi, you're creating them.
Your policies along with the president are creating circumstances where people who want to work cannot.
It's just that simple.
Obamaville is all about welfare checks.
And there are Obamaville is the country.
Impossible to think of a situation where we would have a country that would say we are not going to have unemployment benefits, and the only people who want them are people who don't want jobs.
Anyway, this this is what passes for leadership today in uh in Washington.
There you have it.
Brief time out, open line Friday, Rush Limbaugh behind the golden EIB microphone back before you know it.
I made a mental note to myself last night to come in here and reiterate something that was on the program yesterday.
Megan Kelly's interview with J. Christian Adams, the Department of Justice whistleblower.
One of the things that this guy said, Oh, by the way, Snerdley, if everybody's talking about uh Pelosi, is he stupid or not?
You have to understand what the Democrats are trying to do is create a permanent underclass.
Now we've we've mentioned this I don't know how many times, and they've done it.
I mean, they're creating a perpetual underclass, not middle class, but a perpetual underclass.
Enslaved to the Democrat Party.
And you have to do that with permanent unemployment benefits, just like the Europeans did.
So she may be stupid in how she's selling it, but she fully intends what is happening to happen.
It's no different than why do they want all these illegal aliens, undocumented Democrats, to become documented.
It's all about elections, all about votes, all about power.
It's not a it's uh it's not about empowering people, it's not about compassion and helping people.
Many people ask me, and John Pedoritz, you know, raises the question today in a piece in the New York Post.
Who is Obama?
Why is he doing this?
Now why why?
Why is he doing it?
Is doing is he's stupid?
Does he act as an accident?
Is he doing it on purpose?
Is he what have you?
And Pedor says it doesn't matter really because we're resilient people who come back.
That was his point.
Things have been worse, we've rebounded.
I I do think that's true, but I think we face something we've never faced before in the country, and that is we're now governed by people who do not like the country, who do not have the same reverence for it that we do.
Uh our our greatest threat, and this is saying something, is internal.
Now we have plenty of external threats, enemies across oceans, but we got a threat inside as well.
This is something that I I've never felt in my life that we had a president actually governing against the um the country, the uh against the will of the people.
Uh I know we've had liberals, and uh Clinton and Hillary were and are.
I mean, they're they're pedaled to the metal liberals, but they didn't want to destroy uh things.
This this bunch does, and they make no bones about it.
And when destruction does happen, they don't lift a finger to fix it.
So this interview with J. Christian Adams yesterday, talking about the Justice Department, he's the whistleblower that said the charges were demanded to be dropped, that uh he and his uh lion attorneys were told to just drop the case against the new Black Panthers for voter intimidation in Philadelphia.
And he said that there were people in the office, D.O.J. Who said, well, you know, these people suffered the indignity of uh slavery, uh discrimination, segregation, and so forth.
And he said somebody else said this is payback.
Meaning, all right, look, these I don't care if it's the new Black Panthers or whoever it is, that black people in this country have never ever had a fair shake.
It isn't payback.
Oh, J. Simpson, payback.
How does it feel?
And that word payback, not mine, it was J. Christian Adams quoting some people in the Department of Justice, I think is exactly what I think what Obama looks at the country's payback time.
I I I think that he's been raised, educated, and believes on his own, that this country has been, as you know, immoral, unjust.
It has stolen, it's unfairly large, it's an unjustifiable superpower.
We have become as large as we are, not because of any uniqueness or exceptionalism or greatness, but because we've simply discriminated against the real people that made the country work, all of the minorities and people around the world, we've stolen their resources.
And now it's payback time.
And that's what we're getting.
And J. Christian Adams had somebody in Obama's DOJ who said that regarding the dropping of charges against the new Black Panther Party in the voter intimidation case in Philadelphia.
So if I if uh don't doubt me, there's no question that payback is what this administration is all about, presiding over the decline of the United States of America, and doing so happily.
Let's go to the audio sound bites, November 2nd, 2009, a segment from this program.
How do we get what I call a post-bubble growth model?
Uh one that is sustainable.
That's what we're going to be discussing here today.
Uh as I said, we've got experts from uh a wide range of business sectors, and what we're gonna talk about is are there mechanisms that we can uh start putting in place where uh we we see the kind of growth that used to characterize the U.S. economy.
Which is unbelievable.
Export-driven growth, manufacturing growth, a growth that pays high wages and provides uh high living standards for a broad-based middle class.
We're also in an era of fiscal constraint, which means that we've got to start finding some more creative new approaches to uh financing uh these projects.
So those are the discussions we're gonna be having, uh, not just today, but uh in the weeks and months to come.
This is my administration's overriding focus.
Having uh brought the economy back from the brink.
The question is, how are we gonna make sure that people are getting back to work uh and able to support their families?
It's not gonna happen overnight, but we will not rest until uh we are succeeding in generating the jobs that this economy needs.
Barack Obama, November 2, 2009, nine months ago, roughly eight or nine months ago, uh and he says we're gonna and he was these were the day meetings, the little seminar in the East Room.
He's gonna send all these various experts, their work groups, and they're gonna report back to him later in the day.
And he said, What we're gonna talk about is are there mechanisms that we can uh start putting in place where uh we see the kind of growth that used to characterize the U.S. economy?
I guess when the work groups came back, they reported that there's no way because just this week, Tim Geitner, or maybe it was yeah, it was last week in a G Wiz meetings.
Tim Geitner said, uh the days of the U.S. leading and being the engine of economic growth, those days are behind us.
And Obama said the same thing.
Uh the kind of growth that we've had, we're leading the world, no, no, we're not we're not gonna be Biden.
Uh, we've lost eight million jobs and not gonna be able to replace all those.
Eight months ago, Obama said we uh need to see the kind of growth that used to characterize the U.S. economy.
So they are acknowledging a decline and telling us to be prepared for it.
There's more of this too.
All right, here's all I want to do.
I'm gonna go back.
I'm gonna play audio sum by number 26 again.
It's Obama, November 2nd, 2009.
He's in the in the uh East Room, and he's about to send the uh seminar people into their various study groups to report back to him later on on creating jobs, get the economy going.
This is long after the stimulus bill has been uh passed and uh and implemented.
And after we do that, we're gonna uh let you hear a little bit of Obama from this morning at Andrew's Air Force Base, as he was uh where was he going?
Robert Bird's funeral.
So that means he was going to West Virginia.
Okay, fine.
Well, here's here's Obama, November 2nd, 2009 again.
It's about a minute and 20 seconds.
How do we get what I call a post-bubble growth model?
Uh one that is sustainable.
That's what we're gonna be discussing here today.
Uh as I said, we've got experts from uh a wide range of business sectors, and what we're gonna talk about is are there mechanisms that we can uh start putting in place where uh we we see the kind of growth that used to characterize the U.S. economy export-driven growth,
manufacturing growth, uh growth that pays high wages and provides uh high living standards for a broad based middle class.
We're also in an era of fiscal constraint, which means that we've got to start finding some more creative new approaches to uh financing uh these projects.
So those are the discussions we're gonna be having, uh, not just today, but uh in the weeks and months to come.
This is my administration's overriding focus.
Having uh brought the economy back from the brink.
The question is, how are we gonna make sure that people are getting back to work uh and able to support their families?
It's not gonna happen overnight, but we will not rest until uh we are succeeding in generating the jobs that this economy needs.
Okay, that's November 2nd, 2009.
This morning, Andrew's Air Force Base speaking about the June unemployment numbers.
Now make no mistake, we are headed in the right direction.
But as I was reminded on a trip to Racine, Wisconsin earlier this week, we're not headed there fast enough for a lot of Americans.
We're not headed there fast enough for me either.
The recession dug us a hole of about eight million jobs deep.
And we continue to fight headwinds from volatile global markets.
That's why we're continuing a relentless effort across multiple fronts to keep this recovery moving.
Same stuff.
Same thing.
Coming back from the brink, this recovery moving.
November 2, 2009 to this morning, second soundbite from today.
The Department of Commerce and Agriculture will invest in 66 new projects across America that will finally bring reliable broadband internet service to communities that currently have little or no access.
In the short term, we expect these projects to create about 5,000 construction and installation jobs around the country.
Well, good.
How many jobs was the stimulus package supposed to create by now?
And it hasn't created any.
So high-speed broadband.
Uh big whoop.
You know what?
This is This is like taking rural telephone service out to the country in the 1920s and 30s.
How have how have global markets changed to produce headwinds that stop us from creating jobs?
What the hell is one have to do with the other?
So he's either blame Bush or blame the global markets.
Here's another soundbite of Obama from this morning.
To every American who is looking for work, I promise you we are going to keep on doing everything that we can.
I will do everything in my power to help our economy create jobs and opportunity for all people.
I've been saying this since he was immaculated.
It's the same speech.
It's the same promise.
And it's never ever resulted in anything.
We have a president presiding over that decline.
He's going to do everything in his power to help our economy create jobs.
You mean like shutting down offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska?
And it's going to wipe out a hundred thousand jobs.
Is that what you mean?
You mean all the other regulations that you are placing on other areas of business.
They're going to result in the loss of jobs.
You mean all the tax increases that are coming in January that are causing businesses not to hire now because they don't really know what the impact is going to be until those taxes hit.
It's just the exact opposite.
This man has not lifted a finger to create any private sector jobs.
And the dirty little secret is he doesn't intend to.
Why aren't we growing jobs in this country like we used to?
Why aren't we?
All kinds of textbook evidence, real-life historical evidence of how to do it.
We're not doing it.
We're not doing it on purpose.
It's payback time.
All the people who are unemployed, it's time for you to find out what it's like to be an American all these 200 years.
FIA, greatest country on earth, superpower, right.
Well, it might have been for some people.
You're going to find out what it's been like for 200 years for some of us to be in America.
It's payback time.
That's what's going on here.
You know it's getting bad when the General Electric CEO in a private dinner in Rome unloads on Barack Obama.
Jeff Emilt is the CEO of General Electric.
Now, up until recently, they were blood brothers.
They were partners in this whole green economy, green jobs project.
GE was going to get grants, government participation to uh investigate uh the investments of energy production and green sectors and so forth.
Remember General Electric on their MSNBC network would do all green Tuesdays or what have you.
I mean, there used to be a symbiotic relationship.
But the Financial Times is reporting that Jeffrey Imelt launched a broadside against the Chinese government and Obama.
He won it's a private dinner in some of their customers and uh financial people in Rome Italy.
He warned that the world's largest manufacturing company, GE was exploring better prospects elsewhere in resource-rich countries which did not want to be colonized by Chinese investors.
So I really worry about the Chiccoms, Zimelt told an audience of top Italian executives, accusing the ChICOMs of becoming increasingly protectionist.
I'm not sure that in the end they want any of us to win or any of us to even be successful.
He also had harsh words for Obama, lamenting what he called a terrible national mood, expressing concern that overregulation in response to the global financial crisis would damp a tepid U.S. economic recovery.
Business did not like the U.S. president, and the president does not like business, Emelt said.
He made a point of praising Angela Merkel, Germany's chancellor, For her defense of German industry.
People are in a really bad mood in the U.S., Imelt said.
We, the U.S. are a pathetic exporter.
We have to become an industrial powerhouse again, but you don't do this when government and entrepreneurs are not in sync.
Mentioning in a meeting with Jean-Claude Trichet, he said the president of the European Central Bank worries about inflation every day, in contrast to Bernanke, who will keep interest rates at zero as long as necessary.
Now, word of this got out, and a spokesman for GE said, whoa, whoa, wait, no, no, no, he never said it.
It's taken way, way, way out of context.
And now they're they're backing off that just a little bit.
But the full-fledged denial that ML said this has been, I think, pulled back a little bit.
Now, Imelt, folks, I mean, first aid dinner, second state dinner.
I mean, these guys were this crony capitalism was defined by the relationship that GE had with the Obama regime.
Something's happened.
And if if Imelt is thinking this and saying it, I guarantee you it's being fought and whispered about at the highest levels of American industry around the country.
Nobody has the guts to say it yet, like Yemilt did, and he had to say it a private thing in Rome.
Where it leaked, but it's out there now.
Be right back.
Stay with us.
And this is from the Huffing and Puffington Post.
Actually, posted uh yesterday.
This is uh July 2nd.
So it was yesterday afternoon.
It's by Laura Bassett.
Expired unemployment benefits causing panic, desperation.
I'm drowning fast.
Deborah Rousey, Gainesville, Georgia, says she received an unemployment check of 194 last week, half the usual amount she receives, along with a letter announcing that this check would be her last.
She's now in a complete panic over what to do next.
I'm desperate.
I'm devastated, she told the Huffing and Puffington Post.
I didn't get any warning.
I was barely making ends meet on $330 a week, trying to diaper my grandchild and put food on the table for the four people I support.
Do any of them work, Deborah?
I'm just asking.
What do I do now?
How am I gonna make rent next month?
I keep thinking if I end up in a cardboard box, can I find one big enough for everybody?
Or do I have to send my son to live with somebody else?
I don't want a hand out, but right now I'm at the breaking point.
If I don't come up with cash quick, everything will be cut off within two weeks.
Gas, electric, water.
Five people to be displaced.
How am I supposed to come up with the money?
Look what they look, this is what Obama's doing to people.
This is what Obama's doing to people.
This is what Pelosi is doing to people.
This woman does not sound to me like she wants to be on the receiving end of a welfare check or an unemployment check forever.
But it sounds to me like she's been maneuvered into a circumstance where she thinks she's got no choice.
There are no new jobs being created.
What is she supposed to do when her checks run out?
I'm not making the case to extend unemployment benefits.
I'm using this as an illustration.
Even though she called the Huffing and Puffington poster, they called her.
They're using this as an indictment of the Republicans and the Democrats for not extending unemployment benefits.
This needs to be looked at in a different light.
This is what the United States federal government has reduced people to.
This woman doesn't even apparently have any hope or consideration of going out finding a job, and she's a grandmother.
She's diapering her granddaughter and supporting four other people.
Payback time.
Payback time.
This woman's gonna find out what it was like in Obama's view for other Americans to live as they did in this unfair and immoral country.
For the 230 years we've been around.
We're gonna start on the phones, open line Friday in Caraval, Florida.
This is Terry.
Nice to have you on the program.
Hello.
Hi, nice to talk to you, Rod.
Thank you very much.
Um, yesterday I was listening to you and you were talking about sea turtles and you said something to the effect of it has not been proven that lights affect sea turtles.
Uh were you talking about the big mama turtles or were you talking about the baby turtles?
Talking about the hatchlings and it's it's it's actually both, but it's it's you know th I I know the theory, but it has not been scientifically established.
Even in the official government documents, they say and in the in the in the notices that we get from the state and the town here.
It is thought, it is highly suspected that lights form an attraction to the turtles.
Well But they also tell us artificial light.
They say the moon won won't affect them.
It's only human manufactured lights.
Well Russia, I've been uh monitoring sea turtles for about eighteen years, and tell me how do you do that?
Well I Do you spend every night on the beach?
No, no, no, no.
I go in the morning.
I walk in the morning, and I walk a certain section of beach, and I see what crawls have come up the night before, and I um take my little flags.
So you're looking at tracks, turtle tracks, the flippers.
And then I verify that there is a clutch in there.
And then I put the flags around the clock.
You mean a nest.
You mean a nest of a freshly laid turtle eggs.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
And so I put a a sign, then I put the flags around it, and then I take a GPS reading.
What color is the flag?
A little orange flag you stick in the sand?
Yeah, I just yeah, yeah, I you can use any color.
I use orange.
All right.
And then the sign says sea turtle nest, and then uh when I get home, I'll put the date down, and then I'll I'll But you have yet to see an actual sea turtle egg.
What oh what do you have I seen a sea turtle egg?
No, I mean you're marking a you're marking a nest, but you really haven't seen it.
Oh no, no, no.
I go dig down in there and verify the di I go to the top edge.
You dig down to the eggs and expose them?
I no, just the top one.
Well, there's one dead.
No, no, no.
No.
I I'm permitted by the state.
And so I go down and I just do I know how to do it very carefully, and I uh m find that first top egg because they're they're pop on top of one another.
So I um put the flag far enough around it so it doesn't poke any eggs, and then I mark it on my calendar.
Fifty-five days later, I can tell when it's getting ready to hatch because it starts to cave in.
And that's when they're starting to dig and they're starting to t to come out and make their way through.
They always come out at night, right?
That's no, they do not.
Well, wait a minute.
Like if it's a rainy day and it's really the sand's cool, they'll come out in the daytime.
So but they won't come out in uh broad daylight sunlight.
Yes, they will.
Well then Well then wait a second.
Now this is you may want to rethink what you're telling us.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
What I meant they will tell you.
Because you can't get any brighter than the sun.
Well, wait a minute.
I don't care how many lights I turn on at night.
I cannot duplicate the lumens coming off El Sol.
Rush.
Roger, I have uh the they it's been completely dark and I will sometimes take people on these little tours to see if the nest might be hatching, and it's dark, so I go down there and I'll t turn my flashlight on to see where the nest is, and and if I get there and they're hatching out, if they're headed for the water, they turn right back toward the flashlight.
That's not good.
No.
The artificial light.
Now, the big mama turtles, I don't really think that lights affect them.
I mean, because they they're all they're you get a lot of nests down where you are, where I am in the in the Gulf Coast, North Florida, we don't really get as many as y'all get, but you have lights all all down there.
But uh the it does affect the babies.
All right.
Well, this is uh I'm not I'm not disputing this.
I'm just saying scientifically it has not been established.
It is thought to with anecdotal evidence uh such such as yours.
Well, I'm I'm glad to be updated on this, and I'm glad you called Ferry.
Remember you're talking to the Palm Beach founder of the Turtle Preservation Society.
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