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Nov. 17, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 17, 2009, Tuesday, Hour #3
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God, this is really funny.
This is really funny.
We just spent a half hour with Sarah Palin, one hour ago.
MSNBC played a segment of what Sarah Palin said on this program about the Republican Party.
And then brought two analysts in to tell us that she didn't say what she said.
So despite her saying what she said, they have to stick with their template on her anyway.
Greetings and welcome back, Rush Limbaugh, doing what I was born to do, ladies and gentlemen.
I was born to host, and you are doing what you were born to do, and that's listen.
And we are thus a great team.
Telephone numbers 800-282-2882 and the email address, L Rushball at EIBNet.com.
Excuse me, folks, just the call screener program just crashed again.
Every Windows program we have in this organization crashes at least twice a day.
If it's not the camera in New York, it's a call screen.
Can we get something that's newer than 1980 in here to screen the call?
Sure, get it Mac based.
You got a Mac in there.
Surely somebody can put together a call screener program for a computer that doesn't crash.
Oh, that's it.
Blame it on Snerdley now, not the program.
Oh, snurdly hit the wrong button.
Oh, yeah, that never happens, does it?
Happens every day this thing crashes.
We're using a call screener program, and I used 1988 in New York.
It's just an antique here, except this isn't a museum.
All right, to the audio sound bites.
This afternoon, MSNBC's Enrique Mitchell, NBC News, Washington, breaking news.
Sarah Palin sat down with Rush Limbaugh.
She's talking to Politico's John Harris.
She said moments ago, Sarah Palin sat down with Rush Limbaugh to talk about her book tour and her political future.
You know, another key to this too is to not hesitate duking it out within the party.
This is what I appreciate about the Republican Party.
We have contested aggressive competitive primaries.
We're not like this herd mentality, like a bunch of sheep with the fighting instincts of sheep, as Horowitz would say, like some in the Democrat Party, where heaven forbid you uh you take a stand and and you oppose somebody within your own party because it's the right thing to do.
I appreciate that in the Republican Party.
Okay, what do you think she's saying there?
I didn't I didn't think I had the need to translate this, but apparently for the state-controlled media, I need to translate it.
It sounds to me like she likes robust debate.
That she likes the fact that the Republican Party has diverse views, that you're not kicked out of the party if you have a certain view.
Whereas in the Democrat Party, you gotta be locked stock and barrel or they kick you out.
You can't be pro-life in the Democrat Party.
You can't be for tax cuts in the Democrat Party.
If you are, you're gonna be marginalized.
Uh so I I interpreted her as as that remember the question was oriented around third parties and uh you know, reforming the Republican Party, and she clearly stated her desire to not go to third party route, but to take over and reform the Republican Party.
And then she said what you just heard her say.
So they hear the interview at MS MBC and they go with their template anyway.
What what Palin was espousing throughout this interview was Reaganism?
But they didn't want to hear that.
Remember, Reagan ran against an incumbent Republican president in a primary.
That would be Gerald Ford.
And those are the kind of things that she was talking about.
So listen to this exchange.
Whatever happened to Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment about not going after uh fellow Republicans in primaries.
Well, it's a different party now, a much more conservative party than when Ronald Reagan uh laid down the so-called 11th Commandment.
And she obviously has a different view.
Uh, her book uh makes it un unmistakably clear.
She's not afraid to duke it out of that.
This is a score-settling memoir, and I guess that reflects her approach to politics and probably the approach of a lot of the people uh who are her supporters and admirers.
So here the template, whatever happened to Ronald Reagan's 11th commandment about not going after fellow Republicans in primaries.
Reagan went after Gerald Ford in the 1976 presidential election.
And he he on ideas, He narrowly lost, and he clearly emerged from the Republican convention that year in Kansas City as the clear emotional sentimental favorite.
It's just that Ford was the incumbent president and the party boss rules ruled a day back then, and Ford narrowly eked out a um a win.
This this but what what this I've always been fascinated that Democrats shouldn't criticize other Republicans.
They do it all day long.
They live and die, not just criticizing, but destroying or trying to Republicans.
So after this exchange, Andrea Mitchell then talked to Democrat strategist Steve McMahon about the same pull quote from the interview.
And Andrea Mitchell said, What is the impact on the Democrat Party to have this much energy and excitement on the Republican side?
Sarah Palin demonstrates every single day why she was such a bad choice for vice president, why she would be such a bad choice for the nomination of her party.
And I think this is really about selling books and selling out old friendships, because if she can gin up the right, she can sell a lot of books and she can make a lot of money.
That's after all what she did.
She traded her friendships, she traded her loyalty, she took the shekels like Judas, and she's selling everyone out along the way.
As a political professional, I gotta tell you, it's pretty disheartening to see this.
These are the people who brought her to prime time, and this is the thanks they all get, including John McCain, who had to have a phone call with his aides today to apologize to them on behalf of Sarah Palin, since she doesn't have the decency to apologize for getting rich by whacking them.
Oh, she took the shekels like Judas, and she's selling everyone out along the way.
All I can say is read the book.
It's about 10 to 12 pages of the campaign, and after you finish it, you will not think that she's selling anyone out.
She is setting the record straight.
Man, these people are just obsessed with her, the hatred for her.
I think they actually hate her more than they hate me.
And I didn't think that was possible.
You don't think so you think I'm wrong about that?
No, my staff's all saying I'm wrong about that, but they hate me more than her.
Well, I know what it.
That's true.
They've hated me for 20 years and it's still going strong, still ratcheting it up.
But anyway, this is fascinating.
So there's one little five or six lines here about how she loves duking it out in the Republican Party becomes she's attacking Republicans.
She's ungrateful.
She's ungrateful to the people who made her famous, ungrateful to the people who put her on the national stage.
She took the shekels like Judas.
She's selling them all out for money.
The truth of the matter is that many people in the McCain campaign set her up.
And they would not let her be who she is.
She writes about it, and it's uh it's just a it's a I don't know, you read it for yourself.
It's a it's a it's a set the record straight sort of uh memoir, if you will, and there is some substantive policy stuff in this book as well, even though they want that's another thing.
That quote of mine that this is very substantive book, one of the most substantive policy books I've read by a politician in a long time, that made all over the cable new news networks yesterday as though, whoa, what kind of take is this?
Why, this is outrageous.
Look what Limbaugh is saying about this.
They hadn't read a book yet.
It's 415 pages.
They were just stunned that anybody would say this.
What are we supposed to say the quintessential political book is Obama's?
Obama's is a navel gazing book.
Obama's book's all about me and all about him and all about the trials and tribulations and how tough it was being there and being black and being this or that, and how tough it was and how tough it was, and this and I mean it's all navel gazing.
He's a narcissist.
He focuses totally on himself.
So it you um books on sale today.
It's been pre-ordered at uh Amazon number one for all these weeks before it even uh even came out.
All right, I gotta take a brief time out here, folks.
We'll do that.
We'll come back with much more on the EIB network right after this.
Okay, we are back El Rush Ball at 800-282-2882.
This is an amazing story here from state-controlled associated press.
They've gone out and conducted a poll out there, And they report that Americans are fretting over health overhaul costs.
And what this poll shows is that when you actually ask people about what is in the bill, they don't want it.
If you ask them broad-based, you think everybody ought to have health insurance, oh yeah.
Do you think somebody else should pay for your health insurance?
Oh, yeah, do you think you should pay for somebody else's?
No way.
But then you start asking specifics based on the contents into the House of the Senate bills, and it changes dramatically, and AP even reports this.
And before telling you some of the quotes in this story, I have to tell you that it's it's probably even much worse than the story indicates.
Because I'm surprised by the quotes they use in this story.
Americans are worried about hidden costs in the fine print of health care overhaul legislation, and AP poll says that's creating new challenges for President Obama as he tries to close the deal with a handful of Democrat doubters in the Senate.
The poll found that 43% oppose health care plans, 41% are in support, 15% remain neutral or undecided.
Well, for one, I know nobody wants to pay taxes for anybody else to go to the doctor.
I don't, said Kate Kuhn, 20 of Ackworth, Georgia.
I don't want to pay for somebody to use my money that I could be using myself.
Now that is fascinating, is it not?
I'll bet you she voted for Obama.
I'm just guessing.
See, I think most people, most independents, most moderates who vote Democrat, do so for reasons that you and I wouldn't understand, but they're they're founded largely in uh in ignorance.
Because if she if she says, I I don't I know I know nobody wants to pay taxes for anybody else to go to the doctor, well, do you want to pay taxes somebody else to um eat?
Do you want to pay taxes for somebody else to have a home?
Do you know.
Yet they vote for people who do.
Now the latest survey for AP was conducted by Stanford University with the nonprofit Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.
And when poll questions were framed broadly, the answers seemed to indicate ample support for Obama's goals.
But when required trade-offs were brought into the question, opinions shifted dramatically.
In one striking finding, the poll indicated that public support for banning insurance practices that discriminate against those in poor health may not be as solid as it seems.
A ban on denial of coverage because of pre-existing medical problems has been one of the most popular consumer protections in the health care debate.
82% said they favored the ban, according to the Pew Research Center.
In the AP poll, when told that such a ban would probably cause most people to pay more for health insurance, 43% said they would still support doing away with pre-existing condition denials, but 31% said they would oppose it.
Support is cut in half.
and When you tell people insuring people for pre-existing conditions is going to cost you.
Now people don't normally naturally come to this conclusion, which bewilders me.
Actually, it doesn't bewilder me.
I I guess we have a sizable percentage of our population who thinks that government has its own money.
And that it doesn't come from them.
When in truth, as you and I know, government doesn't have a dime without taxing the people who produce the wealth and create it.
They print the money, and when they print it and use it, of course, they're causing inflation and uh and adding to the money supply, but but they don't generate anything.
Costs for those with coverage could go up because people in poor health who'd been shut out of the insurance pool would now be included, they would get medical care that they could not access before, but it's gonna cost a lot of money to do it.
I'm thinking we'd probably pay more because we'd probably be paying for those that are not paying.
So they get to get more money from somewhere.
Basically, I see our taxes going up to Antoinette Gates, uh, Antoinette Gates 57 of Atlanta.
The uh the health care debate is full of such trade-offs.
For example, limiting the premiums that insurance companies can charge 50-year-olds means that 20-year-olds have to pay more for coverage.
So if you if you can say to the senior citizens and the middle class, we're gonna lower your premiums.
We're gonna make sure that it's easier for you to get insurance.
Somebody's got to make up the difference.
These trade-offs really matter, says Robert Blendon, a professor at the Harvard School of Public Health who follows opinion trends.
The legislation contains a number of features that polls have shown to be popular, but support for the overall legislation is less than might be expected because people are worried there are details about these bills that could raise their families' costs.
It ought to be the instinct that everybody has, given any interaction they've ever had with any government program.
There is no government program that comes in on budget.
There's no government program that doesn't cost a lot of money.
There's no government program that does not cause taxes to be raised.
And yet, somehow people are some people are persuaded that health care reform is going to expand treatment, make it better, is going to reduce insurance costs, gonna reduce medical costs because what?
A couple of millionaires are gonna have their taxes raised.
If more and more people are coming to realize this is all a bill of goods, then so much the better.
The bill suggests the public is becoming more attuned to the fact that in health care details can make all the difference.
For example, asked if everyone should be required to have at least some health insurance.
Sixty-seven percent agreed, twenty-seven percent said no.
The responses flipped when people were asked about requiring everybody to care insurance, carry insurance, or face a federal penalty.
Sixty-four percent said they would be opposed.
Twenty-eight percent favored it.
So, should everybody be required to have health insurance?
Yep, sixty-seven percent say so.
Well, what about if you go to jail if you don't?
Uh-uh-oh, not in favor of that.
Among Democrats, only twelve percent oppose the broad goal of requiring insurance, but 50% oppose fines to enforce it.
As to uh the Senate bill, Senator Tom Coburn, Republican Oklahoma confirmed Senate Democrat leaders fears he will insist the massive health care reform bill be read aloud in its entirety on the Senate floor.
That could take days.
The American people are gonna get to hear this bill read, period, Coburn told reporters last night.
The bill expected to be hundreds of pages long, possibly more than a thousand pages.
It would take the Senate clerk several days to read the whole thing.
One senior Senate Democrat aide said Republicans will be expected to man the floor the entire time if they want the bill read aloud.
Otherwise, dingy Harry might ask unanimous consent to dispense with the reading.
Uh such requests are routinely granted in the Senate, but opponents have occasionally objected to either slow down progress on the bill or to uh highlight other objections.
Colburn said that he would also block other legislative shortcuts that Reed might seek to employ.
And there's this from the AP.
Secretive front group battles health bill.
Americans for quality and affordable insurance is trying to shape opinion.
One operative tried to enlist trade groups in Maine to oppose government-run health coverage.
These below the radar activities were the handiwork of a law firm in Charlotte, North Carolina operates a secretive group called Americans for quality and affordable health care.
The organization's sponsors remain a mystery.
Its website offers no clues, and the law firm won't say.
Secret group scares AP.
How in the hell is this any different than Americans coming together or move on dot org or acorn or the freaking unions?
Or the secretive George Soros, or any of the other groups of Democrats have.
Somehow, when it's against the liberal agenda, it's secretive.
It's scary.
It reeks of swift boaters.
I frankly, and probably a lot of you would like to join this secretive group trying to stop this monstrosity.
The uh state controlled AP wants us to think they are dark forces working against health care.
Dark forces, powerful forces, secretive forces trying to deny you own coverage.
Joe in Atlanta.
I'm glad you waved your next on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Rush.
Joe.
This is Joe from Atlanta, Georgia.
I just want to say thank you for what you're doing.
And I want to comment about Sarah Palin.
I have to tell you, I have been hopping mad for a while, but certainly after last evening, and then to hear her, I think this lady is a lady that we can get behind and that we can actually trust leading our government.
We need some people that we can trust.
What were you so mad about last night?
Well, I was mad overhearing this issue about the drug the drug companies raising the prices of generic drugs in anticipation of quote unquote with the Obamacare, possibly cutting it so that they can actually talk about how they're going to reduce the price of generic drugs once.
Wait just a second.
I can understand that on the surface you'd get mad at that.
But if you're the drug company and you are being targeted for destruction, if you're an insurance company and you are being targeted, if you if if if you think that this administration is going to whack you, you're gonna get as much of your money as you can before this alt monstrosity hits.
This is no different than uh than uh Michael Eisner selling a hundred and ninety-three million dollars in stock options one week before Clinton's tax increases went into effect.
Well, uh that's very true.
I just I mean, we don't need this drug bill, I mean this the self-care program at all.
And for, you know, and I can appreciate that they've got to try to increase the the cost, but all of this, what they're trying to do is just doing nothing but further hurting us.
And it just needs to be stopped.
And you know, the all of this has gotten me to a point where I'm going to be as vocal, more so than ever before, to stand up for what the difference between what's right and wrong for this country.
And I think I'm not I don't want to defend the drug companies here, uh I but I will.
That none of what you're mad about would be happening if it weren't for Obama's policies.
You're absolutely correct.
And so if you want to vent, I mean if you want to direct your anger somewhere, it's gotta be at the Marxist socialist policies, fascist policies that this guy seeks to implement.
I saw I saw a story the other day, uh AP trying to gin up economic activity.
The wealthy are starting to spend again.
Oh, this is wonderful news for the holiday season.
And they totally miss the point.
People who have money are gonna spend it before Obama can take it away from them.
It's just that simple, and that's what people think is headed for them down the road.
Everybody thinks that.
We'll be back.
Stay right where you are.
Hey, Snerdley, and the rest of you too.
Have you ever heard of Arthur Schopenhauer?
You never heard of Arthur Schoen Brian, now never mind.
I know you've never heard of Arthur Schopenhauer.
Don, uh, you haven't either, H.R. Arthur Schopenhauer, born February 22nd, 1788, died September 21st, 1860, was a German philosopher, known for his atheistic pessimism and philosophical clarity.
At age 25, he published his doctoral dissertation on the fourfold root of the principle of sufficient reason.
Uh, which examine the fundamental question of whether reason alone can unlock answers about the world.
And I wanted to tell you who Schopenhauer is because I have a couple of Schopenhauer quotes for you.
First quote is this every truth passes through three stages.
I think this truth applies to me.
And my broadcast career.
Every truth passes through three stages before it's recognized.
In the first stage, it is ridiculed.
In the second stage, it is opposed.
In the third stage, the truth is regarded as self-evident.
There's another Schopenhauer quote.
And I this one, this is this is dead on too.
Talent hits a target no one else can hit.
Genius hits a target no one else can see.
Yeah, I was just doing a little Obama impression here during the break, thinking about myself, be a little narcissistic, so I thought I'd go look up some Schopenhauer quotes to um Illustrate how I think of me.
All right, Lori in uh Burlington, North Carolina.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Oh my gosh, Rush Limbaugh, former feminazi dittoes.
Former feminazi.
Former feminazi dittoes.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
I just want to say there's if I could steal away with you, Rush Limbaugh, there are so many things I wish I could talk to you about.
But I just want to say that I agree with you that I believe possibly that the left does hate Sarah Palin maybe more than you.
Let me ask you a question, uh uh out there, Lori.
Yes.
Just uh just a in my in my narcissistic mode here, a little little question.
If if if you did steal away with me.
Yes.
Would would I get a word in?
Uh w would you was your is your is your desire to just tell me what you think.
I no.
It would take hours and hours and hours.
No.
Okay, I guess you said there's so many things you wanted to talk to me about, and I just envisioned myself sitting there listening.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Dawn's in there shaking her head.
She can't believe I asked you that.
Okay, I didn't mean to sidetrack you there.
What was it?
You you do you think that the left does hate Sarah Palin maybe more than they hate me.
Oh, yes, I believe yes, absolutely.
I I am not an Oprah fan, but you know, Rush, I remember the very day that she had Obama as a guest, and instinctively I knew she was swooning over him.
And I just knew something was coming is gonna come about this.
I knew it.
I knew it, I knew it.
And when I saw this interview with Sarah Palin on her show, she just looked at her with tears.
I mean, she treated her with such disdain, and if she had one of her celebrity guests on there that she was totally in love with, she would never have treated them like that.
I mean, when she just that one question when she asked her about having Levi Johnston over for Thanksgiving dinner, and Sarah Palin gave her this long answer, and then she said, Okay, so is he coming over for dinner or what?
She would never have treated the celebrities like that.
She would never have given that type of response.
She treated her.
Disrespect.
Well, I know.
But what did you expect?
I didn't expect anything less.
But I mean, the American public is just my mother.
My mother is a liberal and my mother would never get it.
I mean, the the people in this country are just so ignorant and I'm so tired of it.
I'm tired of it.
Hey, frustration is boiling over out there in this audience today.
I can I look at I share the first.
I love Sarah Palin.
I love her.
No love her.
But about about the Oprah.
Let me help out here.
The Oprah's TV ratings are not healthy.
Now T V ratings are like radio ratings.
They have many vagaries and they go up and down based on how the sample is chosen and uh television different because they've got they've got those the Nielsen boxes.
Radio's starting to get into into that way.
But but but there's a trend downward for Oprah's audience.
You couple that with the fact that when Oprah announced that Palin was going to be on, she was deluged with opposition hate mail from her fans for giving Palin the forum.
Yes.
She wanted Palin on because she thought it would stoke ratings.
Uh with Palin's fans tuning in to watch.
Instead, what happened, she got scared her own fans were just Oprah doesn't get that kind of response from her audience.
Oprah's not used to being harassed and disliked.
Her audience loves her.
She's a god, she's a you know, she's a new age, whatever to her audience.
Uh and she's not used to getting tons and tons of screw you, Oprah.
What's wrong with you?
What's happened to you, Oprah?
Oh my god, Oprah, you're selling out.
That kind of stuff will shake, rattle and roll, somebody like an Oprah, just as it would shake, rattle and roll and Obama.
Yes.
Who is I used to I used to worship the ground opera walked on before I was converted.
Yeah.
So if you understand that, do you understand the chilly nature of the atmosphere in the room while the Oprah interviewed uh interviewed Sarah Palin.
I Right.
In in I no, I didn't see it.
I've had a lot of people telling me that there wasn't one policy question asked.
No.
But when Obama was on, it was all about policy, of course.
Yes, absolutely.
Yes.
Well, I don't know.
I support Sarah Palin.
I think she is a woman of character.
I think she's genuine.
She speaks from the heart, and I think America is just we're we're just tired of politics.
We're tired of men who lack character.
And by the way, I know I didn't call in about anything else except Sarah Palin, but I just want to say a man that will stand up and be a man, and I'm just I I don't I don't want I just want a man like John Wayne.
Okay.
Women want John Wayne and it's okay.
I mean I'm reminded of that song by Paula Cole.
You're the song where is my I can I can't I can't think of the name of it right now, but one of the uh lyric lines is um Yeah, where have all the cowboys gone?
Exactly.
Women real women are lying.
Well I remember the the the most recent cowboy on the scene was ridiculed constantly for being one, and that would be who?
George W. Bush.
Exactly.
Now how I have to I have to know because uh our resident sexist here, Bo Snerdly, wants me to know what it was that switched you uh from becoming a feminazi to being who you are today.
Okay.
Well, that's that's a really that's a a real long story, but uh first I'd have to be a big it is it's just God brevity it was God, but it was a lot of people in my life, and you know, I just want to I want to say that it I it was a friend of mine, a radiologist his name was Terry Kobeck, and he would walk around listening to you in the office.
So it was me.
That's what's that's what we're getting at.
It was me.
It wasn't it was me and God.
He was a nice southern doctor from North Carolina, and he would walk around with his cigar and he would listen to Russ Wimbaugh and he would talk about current events and talking about you all the time.
Obviously a real man.
You well, yeah, he was.
Yes.
Well, we do.
We like real men, so and a woman is lying.
If she doesn't if she doesn't say that she like deep down, she wants a hero.
She wants a John Wayne in her life.
It's true.
I don't know.
It's true.
Uh you're you're stuck down there in North Carolina.
You know, head up to New York or Washington, and you're not you're not gonna find those babes.
Um, well, they're they're just they're they can go on for so long.
And by the way, by the way, by the way, my son wants to be in the NFL, and if he wins the Super Bowl, his mother is gonna get out there and say, I don't want to go to Disney World, I want to meet Rush Limbaugh.
That's what I'm gonna say.
Well, Lori, look, thanks for calling.
I appreciate it.
I'm glad you got through.
Thank you so much, Rush, and just keep on with it.
By the way, travel to Washington sometime.
You don't even have to do that.
Just wait till you see Janet Napolitano on TV and ask yourself, is she looking for a John Wayne in her life?
Rush, one more thing.
Can I just tell you one more thing?
My twenty-three-year-old is a rush baby, and she is working on Capitol Hill.
Stealth.
Oh, concerned women for America.
Okay, good group.
All right.
Laurie thanks.
She really, I mean, the feminizes hate that group.
That is that's great news.
Okay, I got a little variation here on the Schopenhauer quote.
The Schopenhauer quote, uh oh, by the way.
Uh speaking of cowboys, uh, the only cowboys that left likes are broke back cowboys.
You know, John Wayne was a cowboy.
John Wayne was uh best friends of Ronald and Nancy Reagan, too.
Uh Reagan was not a broke back cowboy.
Uh okay.
Arthur Arthur Schopenhauer, uh every truth passes through three stages before it's recognized.
In the first stage, it's ridiculed, second stage it is opposed.
In the third stage, it is regarded as self-evident.
A variation on that from Gandhi.
First, they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.
Now, Stirdy, you you watch Mad Men.
You have ever you've seen Mad Men on AMC.
Dawn, have you watched it?
Uh Brian, I knew you wouldn't have watched it.
Mad Men, uh, I just discovered it this season.
I went to DVDs and watched it.
It is a it's an amazing show.
They just finished season three, and it's on AMC, and it's about Madison advertising executives, Madison Avenue advertising executives in the early sixties.
And uh and the the the the way that they do, the period, the way they I mean, they've got all those old IBM typewriters and the advertising agent, all the old refrigerators, all the old cars, uh, the clothes, the wardrobe, is it's right out of that era.
And I know because I grew up then.
There is a character.
The hunk star of the show is uh a guy named uh John Hamm, and he plays a character named Don Draper.
And Don Draper is the brilliant creative advertising guy at this fictional advertising agency.
And I I I visit blogs where people post their reviews of this program because it has people fascinated.
And the reason it has people fascinated is because it is a dead-on accurate portrayal of America 40, 50 years ago.
In the male-female husband-wife relationship, the male-female relationship in the office.
Uh every office has four or five bottles of booze, they drink all day long, just like it had.
They go out to lunch, that's the three or four, five martini lunch with the clients and so forth, it's just dead on accurate.
But one thing I've noticed on these blogs, and it ties into what we've been talking about today, this character Don Draper is a is a man.
Cowboy, man, whatever.
I mean, he is, he doesn't he there's nothing sensitive about this guy.
There's nothing new age about this guy.
His wife has just left him, by the way.
In the season finale, she's on the plane to Reno to get a quickie divorce uh because she's fallen in love with some guy.
This guy's never home.
He's always working, he does have affairs on the side and so forth.
But women who post on this blog talk about how they love this character.
And it kind of dovetails with a call we had a minute ago about this woman saying everybody wants a cowboy, every woman wants a cowboy.
Secretly, they might not admit it, but uh secretly wants a cowboy in their life.
And uh these I I get amazed.
I really do at the way people get in.
I like the show, but I don't attach any reality to it.
It's a depiction.
But I get amazed at reading the blogs of people who watch this and post, it's as though the show is real.
They get immersed, like people get immersed in movies.
We live in an age in which nothing seems real.
Everything seems fake and phony, the news is fake and phony, our leaders are fake and phony, and a show that accurately depicts America 50 years ago, has a several million people in this program in this country captivated because of the characters in it.
They uh depending on your age watching this show, you have never seen men the way they are and were in that era.
And you've never seen women the way they are portrayed.
You've never seen it.
If you're if you're under 30, if you're under 40, you have not seen it.
Let's say under 30.
It is scary.
This is the this is the point.
And when I see these posts from women, oh, I just love, I just love the the Don Draper character.
He's a real man.
He's 50 years old.
It's a caricature of what well, it's a portrayal of uh of men, 50 years old.
And look at the the guy is flawed deeply.
Uh, but he's he's he's uh he's get in, get it, and get out.
He's not he's not governed by anything new age, nothing everybody smokes all day long.
They got that right.
It's just everywhere, in bed, uh in the restaurants, in the bars.
It looks like the fun people used to have, and they all are having fun, and they love what they're doing, and nobody's wringing their hands, worried about how they're thought of, uh, and is it does this person like me or what Draper doesn't care, for example, whether anybody likes him.
He's just uh got his job to do.
They even treated the Kennedy assassination on this show a couple episodes ago uh or three, uh, because it happened.
This show put purports to happen in uh in real time.
So uh it if you have any Interest.
I'm not pushing it, but it is out on DVD.
It's out on Blu-ray, too.
And if you uh you have Blu-ray, and if you're fascinated to see a pretty accurate portrayal of America 50 years ago, when, and by the way, very sophisticated time.
I mean, that Draper drives a giant Cadillac with the huge fins.
Uh like the St. Louis Cardinal baseball players used to uh uh Kenny Boy used to drive one.
I remember seeing him in the St. Louis uh baseball cardinals of the Bush Stadium parking lot uh after games.
It's just everything was bigger than life, including the people.
Uh Mad Men, Madison Avenue men's what it's all about.
Grief timeout here, folks, as we wrap it up for today.
Sit tight, much more straight ahead.
Gosh, I love this headline here.
Post office reports loss may cut Saturday service.
They still have Saturday service.
Remember when Obama told us health care be great, just like the post office?
Hey, hey, the post office competes.
And a AP Obama in a push for Obama's health care with a totally fraudulent story, uninsured emergency room patients twice as likely to die as people who don't have insurance when they show up in the ER.
By the way, about about Don Draper, just it's a every woman on the show loves the guy and he treats him not well.
Not a sensitive 90s kind of guy, and they love it.
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