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Nov. 17, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 17, 2009, Tuesday, Hour #2
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With talent on the loan from God.
Rush Limbaugh and the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
This, ladies and gentlemen, the most listened to radio talk show in the country.
Great to have you here.
We are going to open this hour with a rare personal interview, a rare guest.
Doesn't happen much on this program, but we are happy to have with us uh former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, whose book going wrong hits the shelves today, and it's already headed for uh, I think a record uh in in sales.
Governor Palin, thanks for making time.
It's uh it's great to talk to you again.
We spoke last Thursday in an interview for the Limbaugh Letter, but it's great to have you here on the radio.
Hey, thank you so much and Ditto's from an Alaskan.
Where are you, by the way?
Where are we speaking to you from?
In a hotel room in New York City, going to do a couple of interviews after that and then uh head to Grand Rapids for the kickoff of the book tour.
Uh, this is going to be exciting.
Are you looking forward to that?
I am so looking forward to this.
I cannot wait to meet some of these good Americans all across this country, it's gonna be a blast.
They can't wait to meet you.
Uh judging by the reception you got during the campaign.
Now, well, ladies and gentlemen, Governor Palin, when we spoke last Thursday, uh I spoke to her a lot about the things in her book uh regarding the campaign.
That stuff uh you'll read in the Limbaugh letter, and it's uh it's uh I predicted to Governor Palin then that much of her book would be ignored in uh in light of the uh dirt that she was supposedly dishing from the from the campaign.
So Governor Palin, what I'd like to do here is go some different directions from uh from what we did on the uh on the newsletter interview, and start with the economy.
We have ten point two percent unemployment.
We see no end in sight.
The administration and others are suggesting next year could be just as bad with unemployment going up to eleven percent.
What would you do differently that is being done now?
It's uh it's over ten percent, and in fact it could be closer to seventeen or eighteen when you consider those who have kind of given up but not applying for unemployment benefits.
So it's bad, it's really bad.
And then uh, of course, Fed Chair Bernacke announced that there are still weak job prospects for the uh very um short term and and probably long term, and that's a that's an uncomfortable place for our country to be.
Uh what we need to do is is shift gears and uh really head in another direction because what we're doing right now with the feds, it's not working.
We need to cut taxes on the job creators.
This is all about jobs, creating jobs.
We have to wrap ramp up industry here in America and um of course reduce the federal debt.
Quit piling on and growing more.
But those common sense solutions there, especially with the cutting taxes on the job creators, uh, that's not even being discussed.
It in fact increased taxes is the direction it sounds like Obama wants to go.
You mean that you don't even hear it being discussed on the Republican side or within the administration?
Within the administration, and um as it is discussed on the Republican side, Republicans need to be bolder about it.
Independents need to be bolder about that solution that has got to be uh considered and and plugged in.
This is the only solution that um will be successful.
We we need to rehash some history that proves its success.
Let's go back to what Reagan did in the early eighties and stay committed to those common sense free market principles that work.
He faced a tougher recession than what we're facing today.
He cut those taxes, uh, ramped up industry, and we pulled out of that recession.
We need to revisit that.
Why do you think this administration is ignoring that blueprint?
Uh what is their ultimate objective here?
They're sitting in the middle of abject failure of their number one stated goal, and that's job creation.
So what are they really trying to do here, do you think?
Well, you wonder.
You wonder because uh history proves what will work, and you wonder if if they're realizing that and and if it's just uh perhaps a stubbornness at this point that they are so committed to going down this road of growing government and um interjecting the the Fed's control in the private sector more and more, which will prove to be more failure.
Um I don't know if it if it's um um obstinate uh thinking that uh they're engaged in right now, or if they truly just do not believe what the free market, free enterprise um economic solutions are that built up this country.
You think this is gonna be a major issue in the uh congressional elections in 2010?
And if so, how would you advise Republicans to pursue it?
It better be a major uh issue, absolutely.
Uh, of course, national security will be too, and and we hopefully we'll talk a little bit about some of the decisions being made in that arena that caused so many of us concern.
But yeah, the economy, that's what it's gonna be, because it's all about jobs.
It's all about Americans who are hurting right now and what those um solutions are that are so obvious, so common sense that need to be plugged in.
And those are Republican, they're common sense conservative principles that we just need to apply.
New York twenty-three is being portrayed as uh a race in which you and I, because we supposedly went up there, hand picked Doug Hoffman.
He supposedly lost, even though that they still haven't finished counting the votes.
It's two weeks.
They haven't finished counting the votes.
He uh he's he's he says he wishes he could unconcede now.
Uh but they're trying to diminish conservatism and I think in the process intimidate the Republican Party from going in that direction.
What's your read on New York twenty-three?
I think that this is exciting.
It's encouraging uh no matter the outcome, even with this recount of some of those well, uncounted ballots.
I it's exciting that the race is going to be even closer and it's uh a a clearer and clearer picture that um what Americans are seeking, even in a district there in New York, uh they are seeking common sense conservative solutions to all the challenges that we're facing.
I I I'm glad to see this.
So the the the uh positive thing there is that the Republican Party was rebuffed in nominating essentially a rhino, a liberal.
Well, I I think what you saw there is and of course it's not just the Republican machine, it's the Democrat machine too.
You know, if you're not uh the anointed one um within the machine, sometimes you have a a much tougher road to hoe, and that's what Hoffman faced.
He was in the underdog.
Um I think uh great timing for him though to uh stand strong on his conservative credentials and come out of essentially come out of nowhere and prove that an American without that resume without that machine backing can truly make a difference in an election like this.
Well now you s you use the term uh in unless if you're not the anointed one by the party machine, you're the underdog and you have a tough road to hoe.
Uh based on things that I read, the Republican establishment would not anoint you uh to be a nominee of their party, should you choose to go that way.
I'm not asking you the question because I know you're not gonna ans or answer and give away what your plans are in twenty twelve.
You consider yourself one of these unanointed ones within your own party.
Well, uh to some in in both parties, politics is more of a business.
It's not so much a a commitment to an agenda or a person or values or issues.
It it's more of a business and and no, I'm not a part of that.
So if they're gonna keep using that that way of thinking in um their decisions on who they anoint, who they will support or not, then no, I'll never be a part of that.
But hopefully we're gonna see a shift uh with with independence with the Republican Party and the Democrat Party, and we're gonna g get back to what the issues are, what really matters, and um and then hopefully we're gonna go from there, which will be much fairer to the electorate.
All right, independence slash third party.
A lot of people mistakenly, in my view, are looking at New York twenty-three as a uh as a as a as evidence that see, a third party could actually do well, but that's not a good example because there was no primary there.
Uh as you said, the party bosses chose Didi Skazefab on the Republican side and and the Democrat, had there been a primary, New York twenty-three would not have been constituted as it was.
Uh so w what do you what are your thoughts now on on the uh viability of a third party if the Republican Party can't be brought around?
You know, to be brutally honest, I think that it's it's a bit naive when you talk about the pragmatism that has to be applied um in America's political system.
And we are a two-part and and ideally, sure uh an a third party or or an independent party would be able to soar and thrive and put candidates forth and have them elected, but I don't think America is ready for that.
I think that it is uh granted it's quite conventional and traditional, but in a good way that we have our two parties and I think that that's that's what will remain.
And I say that though, acknowledging that I'm not an obsessive partisan.
I understand why people good people like my own husband refuse to register in a party.
Todd's not a uh Republican and yet he's got more common sense conservatism Than a whole lot of Republicans that I know, uh, because he is one who sees the idiosyncrasies of the characters within the machine and it frustrates him, uh, along with a whole lot of other Americans who choose to be independent.
But um in answer to your question, I don't think that the third party movement will be what's necessary uh to usher in some common sense conservative ideals.
Now, you uh you mentioned independence, uh, when we need to get independence.
Independents right now are abandoning the Democrat Party.
Uh they did so in New Jersey.
They did so in uh in Virginia, and the White House pretty much proves this because the White House was out prior to the election saying, eh, Republican Party identification in polls is as low as it's ever been.
Therefore, for Republicans to win these races, there had to be independence moving in uh in their direction.
Now I know you're you're you're you're not in politics now, but you have political experience.
I'm not in politics.
I've never gone out and gotten votes.
I've always been curious about the the professional politicians' insistence that we go out and get independence.
Um, but with these magical whatever it is, twenty percent of people that that are that are not identified or do not self-identify themselves with with uh with either party.
What's the way to get them?
I think just naturally independents are going to gravitate towards that Republican agenda and Republican platform because the planks in our platform are the strongest to build a healthy America.
We're all about cutting taxes and shrinking government and respecting the inherent rights of the individual and strengthening families and respecting life and equality.
Uh y you have to shake your head and say who wouldn't embrace that?
Who wouldn't want to come on over?
They don't have to, though, necessarily be registered within the Republican Party in order to um hook up with us and join up with that agenda standing on those planks.
In Alaska, about 70 percent of Alaskans are independent.
So that's that's my base.
That's where I am from, and that's been my training grounds is um just just implementing common sense conservative solutions, independents appreciate that.
You're gonna see more and more of that attraction to the GOP by these independents as the days go on.
If the GOP articulates what you just articulated, uh I've always believed the way to get Reagan got them by just being who he was, articulating conservatism.
But conservatism is is is nothing different than the founding principles of the country.
Therefore, the the key to getting independence is Republicans who can articulate those uh those beliefs.
You know, another key to this too is to not hesitate duking it out within the party.
I uh this is what I appreciate about appreciate about the Republican Party.
We have contested aggressive competitive primaries.
We're not like this herd mentality like a bunch of sheep with the fighting instincts of sheep, as Horowitz would say, like some in the Democrat Party, where heaven forbid you uh you take a stand and and you oppose somebody within your own party because it's the right thing to do.
I appreciate that in the Republican Party.
Some on the other side say that they're uh you know they're observing what goes on in the GOP and say that's infighting and they can't get along and there's no consensus there.
No, this is healthy debate, good competition.
It makes candidates work harder, it makes for a better product, if you will, at the end of the day.
I appreciate that about the our party.
We are talking to Governor Sarah Palin.
We take a brief uh prosperity timeout.
We'll be back and continue with Governor Palin right after this.
And we're back, our remaining moments with former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin starting her book tour today.
Let's talk about your book tour, your career in general, Governor Palin.
What do you who are you trying to reach uh and for what purpose with the with the book uh and your book tour?
What's your goal here?
Well, I'm not trying to reach the uh liberal elites in this country, and it's a good thing I'm not trying to, because I'm not succeeding there.
Just everyday hardworking Americans who want government back on their side and and I want to uh help them have their voice be heard, and the book is all about that, and the book is about um my record and my accomplishments as a mayor and as a governor that kind of lay the foundation for Americans to to see um where it was that I was and and how I got to where I am.
And uh it was just a lot of hard work and it was a lot of very uh common sense measures that I undertook politically and and uh practically speaking, and the book is about that, and hopefully people will read it and enjoy it and learn something from it.
What's our biggest uh energy challenge as a country?
D Do you believe at all or some or a lot in the modern day go green movement of solar and uh wind and all of these nefarious things that really don't produce anything yet.
Uh I think there's a lot of snake oil science involved in that and somebody's making a whole lot of money off people's fears that um the world is uh it's kind of tough to figure out with the shady science right now.
What are we supposed to be doing right now with our climate?
Are we warming or are we cooling?
Uh I don't think that Americans are even told anymore if it's uh global warming or um just climate change.
And I don't uh attribute all the changes to man's activities.
I think that uh this is uh for in in a lot of respects cyclical and the earth does cool and it warms and our greatest challenge with uh energy is that we're not tapping into the abundant domestic supplies that God created right underfoot on American soil and under our waters.
It's ridiculous that we are circulating hundreds of billions of dollars a year in foreign countries, asking them to ramp up production so that we can purchase it from them, especially from the regimes that can control us via energy, using it as a weapon against us potentially.
It's nonsense that this administration and past administrations haven't really understood yet that inherent link between energy and security.
And I think more and more Americans are waking up to the fact, though, in...
we will hopefully see changes there soon vice president uh Biden uh chided you saying uh it's a little bit more complicated Governor Palin than drill baby drill which is one of your chapter titles what's what's complicated about drilling for oil?
Exactly what is complicated about tapping into abundance, safe domestic supplies that could provide stability for our country and security for our country.
I know Alaska has uh has the billions of barrels of oil underfoot and we have the um we have the the natural gas that's waiting to be tapped too and and other states do too.
It's not that complicated it's political and that's what is the um that's what the shame is in this is that for political reasons we're not allowing to tap these domestic supplies.
What are your thoughts on the um the congressional health care reform bills going through the House and the Senate.
Well we don't really know do we what's in that Senate version uh the Senate consideration that it will be soon but we have no idea of costs.
We don't know how many will be insured.
We're waiting to hear all that we don't know if the tax funding of abortions will be in this new version that's sitting over on the Senate side.
We don't know if those who choose not to purchase this government mandated level of coverage will face jail time as punishment.
There are so many questions unanswered.
I uh I don't like the idea in general of the federal government thinking it needs to take over health care, which essentially this is and control one sixth of our economy, not when there are common sense solutions to meeting healthcare challenges in our country like allowing the intra and interstate competition with insurers, uh tort reform, cutting down on the waste and fraud that the Obama administration insists if we just did that we'll pay for this one point some trillion dollar health care reform package.
So lots of common sense solutions that need to be plugged in before ever considering federal government taking it over.
You mentioned earlier you wanted to talk about national security that you hoped it came up.
Well here it is what do we face?
What are our threats and are we prepared or not?
Well I I I think domestically a threat that we're facing right now is the dithering and and hesitation in uh sending a message to the terrorists that we're gonna we're gonna claim what Ronald Reagan claim our our motto is going to be we win, you lose the way that we do that is allow McChrystal to have the reinforcements that he's asking for in Afghanistan that sends that message to the terrorists over there that no we're gonna end this thing with our victory.
We need to start facing uh Iran with tougher and tougher sanctions that need to be considered we need to work with our allies in with the uh Iranian issues like uh Britain and France and not allow access to favorable international monetary deals.
That that's a That's a great threat that I think would kind of shake up Ahmadinejad and get him to listen.
We need to look at halting Iran's imports of refined petroleum products.
They're quite reliant on imported gasoline, and uh we need to use that hammer to wake up the leadership there too.
Those are two big challenges that we have right now, domestically and um in in naming those two countries, Afghanistan and Iran.
Two big challenges there too.
Uh thirty seconds, immigration.
Can you do it in thirty seconds before we have to go?
I can't do it in thirty seconds, but just know that uh, you know, let me put it simply.
Illegal immigrants are called illegal for a reason.
We need to crack down on this.
We need to listen to the border states where the governors there have some solutions, and we need to get serious about that.
Governor Palin, thanks very much.
It's uh it's been a pleasure.
It's been fun.
Thanks for last week as well.
And uh good luck on what I know is gonna be a life-changing book and book tour.
Hey, thank you.
Keep up the good work, and uh all the best to all your listeners.
Well, I think I know what her rally and cry is gonna be, or her slogan, common sense solutions.
I heard that enough.
I uh the the I think I've got uh reasonable uh degree of intelligence uh intelligence here to be able to figure that out.
All right, folks, we're gonna go to the phones.
I would normally go to the phones at this time anyway.
Uh still lots of good juicy stuff in the stacks, but people have been on hold for a full hour and a half here, and I want to get to them.
First in Naperville, Illinois, Mike, I'm glad you called, sir.
Hello.
Hey, Rush.
Great interview, Sarah Palin Rocks.
Well, thank you.
Appreciate that.
Yeah, my comment was uh going back to the craziness of Obama apologizing for the way women are treated in our country.
He's speaking to the Chinese who up until recently were aborting and even killing many of their baby girls because boys had more value.
Well, hang on a minute.
Let's go back.
That you hang here with me, Mike.
Grab audio soundbite number two, because we played this an hour ago, and I want people to know what it is that you are reacting to.
This is this is Obama in Shanghai.
Uh he held a town hall meeting, and it wasn't it but this this whole soundbite is just fingernails on a chalkboard to me.
It's very important for the United States not to assume that what is good for us is automatically good for somebody else.
We have to have some modesty about our attitudes towards other countries.
We think it's important, nevertheless, to be true to our ideals and our values.
And we when we do so though, we will always do so with the humility and understanding that we are not perfect and that we still have much progress to make.
Uh if you talk to women in America, they will tell you that there are still men who have a lot of old fashioned ideas about the role of women in society.
There again.
So that's that's what Mike and Naperville is reacting to.
If you talk to women in America, they'll tell you that there are still men who have a lot of old-fashioned ideas about the role of women.
And yet, in China, they abort women.
They got a one-child policy and families want boys.
You still there, Mike?
Yeah, it's just crazy.
It's just crazy.
It is what the rest of this sound bite, though, here he is once again apologizing for the country and saying, you know what?
What we were is not good enough to impose on you our freedom, our liberty, our economic prosperity.
We wouldn't dare want you to think that that would be good for you.
And we're gonna be humble enough to realize that it's not good for us enough anymore.
I'm gonna change it.
We're gonna become more like you.
I think this this guy is just a national embarrassment every which way you look.
Everything he everything he says to them.
He he talks about censoring their internet, and they censor his his remarks to the Chinese people.
It's just it's just a waste of time.
He's got to quit apologizing for the U.S. Appreciate that uh Mike, thanks much to uh Mina Park.
Uh, Mina, Arkansas, rather, Mina, Arkansas.
This is Philip.
Great to have you here, sir.
Hello.
Thank you, Mr. Limbo.
I'm a longtime listener.
First time I've got through my wife's nothing called a couple times.
I have a question.
Uh just an idea.
Could Sarah Palin be our next Ronald Reagan?
I mean, with her personalities upbeat, she uh you know, she's she's just positive.
I don't know.
We'll find out.
Um we're gonna learn a lot on this book tour.
We're gonna learn a lot about people's reaction to her, the kind of crowds that she's going to draw, the um uh the way she deals with people on this tour.
But that's gonna be for people like you to decide.
I mean, if you if you're looking for a rig in the republic Republican Party, what do you think?
Uh well, personally I think she could be and should be.
Uh you know, she's she's just got a positive attitude about the country.
I mean it's it's uh it's a Rush limbo attitude.
You're always positive and looking on the good side.
Um but uh you know that's that's I really honestly think that she could she she's got the conservative values um it's you know the whole just the whole Reagan package she is able to articulate them uh there there's no question about that I'm very impressed with her interview with you.
Well thank you.
I appreciate that.
I um I um uh made a decision that I was gonna this go just bam bam bam issue question after issue question is everybody's spoken on this focusing on this soap opera stuff uh that is about ten to twelve pages of a four hundred page book about the campaign and some of the personalities and people in it and all that stuff is uh is out there it's being discussed by everybody else.
Denise in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Hi, welcome to the EIB network.
Hi Rush, thank you for taking my call.
You bet.
Um I just want to comment on Sarah Palin as being I think the ideal candidate for the our to be our next president.
And I didn't always think that and let me preface this by saying um my father was in the Marines for twenty five years.
I grew up in Camp Lejeune so I'm a military brat and um from that perspective I think she is the kind of fighter that we need to be in the presidency because Barack Obama certainly isn't one.
And what taught what showed me that was her interview with Oprah last yesterday and in her book and actually um her leaving the governorship which may sound strange because it looked like she was quitting but actually she was showing what a fighter she was that she was willing to remove herself as a target in order to disempower people who are attacking her to conquer them to overcome them.
And that just showed me that she was smart she was brave and that she has a fighting spirit that we need in this country because Barack Obama is not standing up for a country.
He's willing to put himself first political views first and not us.
And this is a woman who is willing to disempower others even when it's putting herself at risk for the sake of the bigger picture.
Well, I'm glad you mentioned that.
I asked her that last week in the newsletter interview, and she gives an extensive answer.
But you pretty much have summed it up.
In addition to what you said, she also didn't want to derail the agenda of the governor's office in the state of Alaska.
Her lieutenant governor shares her agenda, obviously, and she was going to be stopped dead in her tracks with all these investigations, lawyers rolling around and so forth.
And she really said to me that she was putting the state first.
first uh and and didn't want the uh the state's business to come to a screeching halt because she believes in her agenda.
Well I under I under I'm sorry I understand that but I don't think people in the media and in the country are buying that and I know a lot of them won't buy anything she says anyway but because the an argument could be made that the state would be fine even if she fulfills her term.
But what I'm saying and I was even critical of her on that point but what I'm saying is I like the fiery part of it.
I like that she was pissed off about it.
And she almost said to these people oh you want to mess with me I'm not gonna give you someone to mess with I'm willing to step down in order to weaken you in order to overcome you.
And I like that that shows a lot of strength and a lot of empowerment it isn't about her it was about Alaska as well.
But it shows such a fighting spirit that I guess it's in the context of Barack Obama being so painfully weak.
And this coming from someone who's from Camp Lejeune and I go home and I see these guys going off in the military I'm sorry.
This is very personal to me.
You know you you um uh you raised an interesting point or you remind me of an interesting point and that is that some of the strongest people in Republican Party politics today are women.
Absolutely they're women and we need a woman we need this woman we need a strong conservative woman we need someone who's gonna stand up and look other people in the eye and say I'm willing to sacrifice in order to succeed.
I am willing to quit what seems to be quitting in order to fight.
I'm willing to protect instead of taking care of people.
And there's a difference there.
And I saw that especially in her interview talking about the baby of her son-in-law, or not son-in-law, but the baby's father.
She always put the baby first.
She put protecting first rather than tearing other people down.
And we need that.
Our men in the military need that.
They don't have someone who wants to protect.
They have someone who wants to cover his own butt, and they want someone who wants to say he's taking care of everybody, when he's not.
He's stripping them of their self-esteem and of their self-esteem.
of their strength and I'm tired of it.
And in Sarah Pal Palin we have someone who is compassionate who's wise who's strong and who is a fighter and I want people to know that.
And she is not what these m these stupid liberals are saying about her.
They're stupid and they're biased and they're gonna use her quitting the govern governorship as something to flag her with when really I think it's a banner of strength.
She'll overcome that I mean it's the I when she did quit and that was the mantra the conventional wisdom that's it for her I mean nobody quits and then goes on the higher uh office.
That just doesn't happen.
And I never go along with the conventional wisdom and uh there are a lot of reasons why she quit.
In addition to those that you mentioned if she does have a political future if she does desire that she can't compete against the people that she's gonna be competing against while in Alaska.
So there there's the multifaceted reason let me ask I didn't see the Oprah interview because I do not watch the Oprah show.
I don't I don't either I I don't but I did yesterday.
Okay.
I have had emails from people who did and they said I was kinda uncomfortable with it because it was all chick questions.
It was all chickafied stuff.
And they edited out any and all Oprah audience applause.
Uh normally audio Oprah's audience is constantly applauding and uh and Oprah encourages that but there was none of is that right is that what happened yesterday?
Well it definitely wasn't policy driven it was more tick-ified which is what her setting is and people need to remember that when she starts endorsing people like Obama.
Um but that's okay because I think that people do want to know what kind of person she is and I think she showed herself in so many ways to be a steady wise fighter and I even in that in the even in that interview.
And I think a great I wish I I wish she had talked more about how she's been derailed against because of her sex, but she didn't talk so much about that.
Well I don't I you know one thing I've read her book she she's she's not a navel gazer.
I think it's one of the reasons I said yesterday that the uh intellectuals don't understand her don't like her.
She doesn't analyze herself she doesn't analyze her thoughts she just has them and expresses them.
Uh and uh she in in that way you know she she's not one of these self-analyzing personalities always focused on herself.
At any rate, um Denise great call I br really appreciate that you got through I'm glad you got through.
We have to take a brief time out folks we'll be back and continue after this.
Hi Harry You Rush Limbaugh having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have here at the one and only Excellence in broadcasting network um Dallas in Roseburg, Oregon.
Great to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey Rush um yeah I you know I was just calling in I was listening to the last caller uh at least I believe it was the last the gal that called in who was she said she was the Army brat and whatnot and you know how we need a woman as specifically Sarah Palin to lead this country and you know uh a Reagan-esque personality and you know I've I've grown up in a very conservative town here in Roseburg.
Um you know I've had great uh role models both male and female alike most of most of which my dad and my grandmother um my dad is a uh former all American athlete who became you know a very good uh well-known businessman in the area um he's stu he's taught me a lot of uh strong principles and morals growing up and and how to be a leader and whatnot and how to keep my cool in tough situations.
Um and then on the other side my grandmother has just always been such a a wonderful soft place for me to to you know be comforted and and to just have a lot of good memories with but you know uh they would both say um that we just we we need a strong and a lot of women are gonna like this a lot of men are gonna like this but coming from me I'm 24 I've had to grow up in the the the the feminist movement and it it's an oppressive thing.
Um I I have not had a lot of great experiences under female leadership um you know whether it's in a business or school or whatnot now on the flip side, you know, men can be ding dongs too.
I'm not gonna lie about that, but but uh it's been my experience in life, though, that I take I have a lot more confidence and and a lot more comfort under a a strong, honest, dedicated male leadership, uh male person in leadership rather than the the the flip side there.
And I I just don't think, you know, if it's uh it it really bothers me more to hear the conservative people say we need Sarah Palin um when she's a conservative for president than it bothers me to hear people say we need Hillary Clinton because she's a liberal and that doesn't bother me because I expect that of them.
I really don't I mean if a twenty-four-year-old like me um uh isn't comfortable with a woman being president, I and I'm a conservative.
I think there's gonna be a lot of people on the conservative side that aren't gonna be all that hopped up to uh go support uh Mrs. Palin.
Now I have a lot of.
Why?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what does it just because she's a woman?
Um well yeah, I mean just just it's it's it's see I I have real traditional value.
You see, folks let me let me tell you something.
This is if this I knew that someday this is the feminist backlash.
This is what was destined to happen.
I'm I I am I'm I I'm sorry that you feel this way.
Because I don't in in the case of uh in the case of Palin, I I think the people are reacting to her because she happens to be the most prominent politically connected oriented conservative voice out there.
There isn't a man out there articulating this stuff and this is about saving the country.
We are at a crossroads here in saving the country.
And you you have you have been affected.
I heard what you said.
Look at uh when I when I was your age and younger, I was in full-fledged early days of the feminist movement mode.
That's you couldn't compliment them on their looks without insulting their brain.
Uh you you couldn't open the car door for 'em.
You couldn't do anything manly because that was disrespecting them.
Uh so I I know where you're coming from here, but I I the danger here is that you're you're you're painting with a generalis generalized broad stroke saying that women can't lead.
Have you ever heard of Margaret Thatcher?
Oh, yeah, I've heard a lot of her.
Well, would you would you have been pleased to be governed by her?
Um I yeah, I'm I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be a fool and say that there aren't exceptions out there.
And Sarah Palin might be an exception.
I personally am very uh and and you know, I'm very passionate, extremely passionate about politics.
I've been listening to you since uh George W. ran the first time.
Um I voted for him the second time he ran around because I was 19 at that age, I believe is when it was.
Um, you know, so I've been listening to you since I was fifteen years old, um, enthusiastically.
Every time I own my own uh landscaping business in the Roseberg area here.
It's actually a sod farm if you're familiar with what turf is.
Um and I've been listening to you when I drive my tractor every day, you know, that I've been working since I graduated in 2004 from high school.
And I just I you know, I'll agree with you.
There the there's a bunch of softies uh in the in the conservative movement that are just not saying what needs to be said um on the on the male side.
Yes, I I can agree.
As as far as saying what I like to hear, believe in what I believe, she is the best candidate.
I just think there needs I mean I I just feel like if there's guys like me who want to be president someday, I'm 24 and I'm gonna give it my absolute damnedest to be president someday.
And I just feel like if there's guys like me out there at 24, there's gotta be somebody who's of age to be president that we can find in the next several years.
How long have you been listening to today's program?
Did you hear me recount the details of the post on the Huffington Puffington post today?
They got a whole section there on why women are unhappy.
And the guy posts today that uh in the in the case of the gender wars, uh the women have won.
A dirty little secret here, women are undefeated, folks, uh throughout the history of time.
But uh the uh you know women do not lose.
Let's just put but the the the this guy's point was that that men now think exactly like women.
They don't think like men used to 30 years ago, and that's what you're encountering.
You're what you're encountering is the wimpification of men.
There are some women out there who like manly men, but there are fewer and fewer of them.
And uh but I I you know you you you gotta you gotta understand that uh uh the the Sarah Palin phenomenon is not about gender at at this stage.
It's about a void, about a vacuum being filled by somebody uh in a political party that has nobody else speaking that way.
Thanks for the call.
We'll be back after this.
Well, you know, this sounds like somebody in pain to me, whatever this bump song is.
This sounds like somebody really screaming in pain.
Who is this?
Oh, Jerry Rafferty, the Whorehouse song.
Yeah, okay.
Uh by the way, folks, the Sarah Palin interview, audio and transcript is now posted at rushlimbod.com.
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