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Nov. 6, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 6, 2009, Friday, Hour #3
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We've been uh talking about the economy.
Uh we've touched on health care, uh, and we've been following uh the latest development in the shooting uh at uh the m the mass murder uh at Fort Hood uh committed by Major Hassan, who is still alive.
There's uh another uh shooting uh going on at the moment uh in Florida, uh a man it turns out called Jason Rodriguez, who has gone into his office building uh and uh and been uh shooting things up uh in there.
And it is interesting to me the the the live coverage here, it's almost as if uh in relief uh to be the media have turned uh to a genuine lone wacko as it appears, without any of the complicating factors uh that uh the the story of Major Hassan has.
Let me let me just uh rr r read uh what uh a story that I think is typical of the way the Major Hassan thing is covered at Fort Hood.
Uh this is an Associated Press story.
Details emerge about Fort Hood's suspect background.
This is the latest story from the Associated Press.
Washington.
His name appears on radical internet postings.
A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars.
He required counseling as a medical student because of problems with patients.
There are many unknowns about Nidal Malik Hassan, the man authorities say is responsible for the worst mass killing on a U.S. military base.
Most of all his motive.
Those are the first two paragraphs of the story.
What's missing from that?
His name appears.
Here's the first sentence.
Let's decode this.
Because you can't follow the mass media now without knowing the code language they write it in.
Uh quote, his name appears on radical internet postings.
What word is missing there?
They're not w what do you mean radical?
These like white supremacist websites?
What do you mean radical?
Radical doesn't mean anything in this context.
Uh they were radical Islamic Internet postings, but that word doesn't appear anywhere.
A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars.
He argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars currently going on in Muslim countries, and he supported the right of those Muslims to kill the US aggressor, as he saw it.
So again, Muslim, the word Muslim doesn't appear in the second sentence.
Quote, he required counseling as a medical student because of problems with patients, unquote.
What do they mean by problems with patients?
What they mean is that he had to be disciplined, uh, because as a medical student he was trying to convert patients, his patients, to Islam.
But again, the M-word, Muslim, doesn't appear any uh in any of that in the introduction.
You get you have to read all the way down in this Associated Press story.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven paragraphs before you get the first mention of the M word.
In an interview with the Washington Post, Hassan's aunt, Noel Hassan of Falls Church, Virginia, said he had been harassed about being a Muslim in the years after the September eleventh, two thousand one terror attacks.
Uh that's the first mention of the word Muslim in this story.
Eleven paragraphs in, and it's not to do with any of the motivation for what he did, uh f f f for the immense body count he managed to rack up at Fort Hood yesterday.
It's brought up only uh to certify him uh as a member of a bona fide victim class who was the uh the victim of uh of American racism or whatever it is.
Uh the th th the media need to ask themselves a question here, whether they're actually destroying the the only uh the only value they have, which is trust, which is trust.
If it if it gets too obvious that you're just dissembling and avoiding uh and tiptoeing around the subject matter, Why should anybody waste time reading you?
If you can't use radical Islamic in the first sentence, if you can only say radical, if you can't say uh that this guy uh was trying to convert his patients to Islam as a medical student, you can only make vague allusions to problems with patients.
Why should anybody read you?
They're wasting their time.
They'd be better they they they're gonna have to Google and find out.
The story is like it's now like reading Prafter.
Uh in the in the bad old days, you have to know what's between the lines.
Uh and in this story, everything is between the lines.
That's a classic story, uh uh a classic way this thing's been reported, and is in striking contrast to the relatively straightforward way that the current uh shootout in Florida is being reported.
Let's go to Larry from Sykesville, Maryland.
Larry, you're live on open line Friday, one eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two.
You can talk about anything you want to talk about.
Any subject at all, just lay it on me.
You're on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Hello, Mark, big fan.
Uh you had said earlier that you would like to speak to someone who had uh a comment about the Uyghurs.
Oh right.
And I actually met four of them.
You've met four Uyghurs.
Four Uyghurs.
Uh my family and I were in Bermuda in uh June, walking down the street, and I had seen a photograph of them in the Wall Street Journal, and recognized the four of them standing on the corner.
So I went over and I said, Are you guys the Uyghurs?
And Abdul, the leader, uh very happily said yes, uh, and he looked happy that I'd recognize him.
He says, But we call ourselves Uyghurs, not Uyghurs.
So you went up and said, Are you the Uyghurs?
And and he said, No, we the Uyghurs.
Yes.
Ugh.
Right.
I I saw that's an Abbott and Costello routine, nineteen forty-three.
I saw that movie.
Uh well, anyway, they were they were four very nice guys.
Uh I uh only two of them spoke English.
They had been in Guantanamo for four years.
Right.
I'm sorry, for seven years.
Right.
And made a deal, Obama made a deal to send them to Bermuda.
I'll take that deal, and so would most of us.
Well, the the interesting part was uh the Bermudians don't mind them so much, but they mind the deal because as it turned out, as you know very well, the Queen's in charge and she appoints the governor, and then they elect the Premier.
The Premier cut the deal, and the Queen and the Governor didn't know about it till they read about it in the paper.
Yeah, and this is actually this is a slightly abstruse constitutional point.
But you w what you mean is that Bermuda is not a sovereign jurisdiction, it's a crown colony.
So it has no res responsibility for uh uh external affairs, what they call privileged relations between states, uh the responsibility of uh London.
And essentially what Obama did here is he goes behind the back, and they're all mad about this in London, he does a deal with the local guy in Bermuda.
This is the equivalent, say, of uh uh of uh Hugo Chavez doing a deal with Guam, say, or St. Thomas uh to dump a lot of unsavory Venezuelans on St. Thomas.
Uh i i i i it's not a uh but Bermuda should not have been negotiating with uh with Washington over this.
But but Obama doesn't care.
He figures Gordon Brown is still too busy trying to get those defective DVDs of uh of uh uh great American movies of his to work.
So he what was he care about that?
But uh but were they pleasant, these Uyghurs?
Extremely pleasant.
Hadn't a picture taken with them, my uh grandson was with me, he wouldn't go over to them, evidently they scared him.
So very nice guys, but the Bermudians are not happy about it.
But wait a minute, these are like Uyghurs from Gitmo, and they're basically now d y did they agree to have that you didn't have to pay them to take the photograph or anything, did you?
No, sir.
Wow, that's uh that's amazing.
So Well w how, by the way, Bermuda doesn't exactly have a low standard of living.
How are they getting by out there?
Well, they're they're living in a very nice beachfront home, and my latest understanding is that they're going to be.
No, no, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Who do you think has paid for this beachfront home that the Uyghurs from Gitmo are living in?
Well, that's what the Bermudians are wondering because when Obama made the deal with Palau, he sent thirteen of them there, he paid like two million dollars apiece.
Two two million a Uyghur.
Two million a Uyghur.
Right.
And there's no mention of money going to Bermuda, so the Bermudians are wondering if Premier Brown got any.
Right.
So effective but basically, whoever whoever's got it, whoever's sitting on this money, uh whether whether it's the colonial government in Bermuda or the Imperial government in London, you er uh you uh Larry of Sykesville, Maryland, and I and every other US taxpayer has essentially put up the money for these Uyghurs to live in Bermuda.
We believe so, but there's one thing should be mentioned that the Bermudians are afraid of.
Um it's a very open country, and the Chinese are ab the reason they're in Bermuda rather than China is because if they get sent back to China, they'll be killed.
The Bermudians seem to be afraid that the Chinese are going to try to take them out, and Bermudians would be in the way.
Oh, that is that that uh that gets better than uh better than ever.
A Chinese assault on Bermuda.
Yeah.
I can't wait to see the Obama press conference when uh when the powder gag goes up there yet.
This is not the Politburo I knew.
Uh that will that will be Thank you for that uh Uyghur update, Larry, uh from Sykesville, Maryland.
He met the four Uyghurs sprung from Gitmo.
They're living in a nice beach property that you you are paying for.
I think that's nice.
So when the when Obama talks about all the uh jobs that have been saved or created, bear this in mind.
Uh those Uyghurs might have had to go out and work for a living.
But instead of uh instead of creating four jobs for them to do every Monday morning, uh work at eight hours a day, he's instead put them up in a nice uh beachfront property at your expense.
That's uh that's great to know.
Uh thank you very much for that uh for that call, a Uyghur update.
Uh th this is part, I suppose, of uh of the uh uh of the uh of the Obama world view.
The uh the th there's an element of humbug about this uh that he decided he's gonna close Gitmo, can't find a way to close Gitmo.
By the way, another interesting point is that uh there's there's some two hundred people left at Gitmo, none of whom want to be transferred to the Supermax prison in Colorado, because if you're given a choice between living in a beautiful, actually a beautiful setting at Guantanamo Bay, I went down there a couple of years ago.
Uh the cells are very light and airy and cool.
You've got the balmy Caribbean breezes, and and suddenly they say, Hey, great news.
The Progressive Left has taken up your cause.
The Democratic Party and the European media and the whole global community is opposed to what's going on at Gitmo.
So we're taking you out of this beautiful Caribbean setting where you can lull yourself to sleep each night as Barmy breezes dance under the light of the Caribbean moon.
You can forget about that.
We're transferring you to the Supermax jail in Colorado.
That's great news, isn't it?
Uh all these Gitmo residents uh uh are up in arms about this and don't want to be transferred away from Gitmo and are objecting most strongly.
That's an interesting lesson, by the way, what happens when the left wig take up your cause.
When when liberals take up your cause, it doesn't always end happily.
And if you're if uh as any D T transferred from Guantanamo Bay to the Supermax prison in Colorado will soon, of course, to reflect.
Uh Mark Stein on Open Line Friday, sitting in for Rush Limbaugh, 1-800-282-2882.
Mark Stein in for Rush on the uh Rush Limbaugh Show.
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You get to talk about anything you want to talk about.
You can take uh the program in any direction.
If you got any uh Uyghur anecdotes like Larry had, if you've met Uyghurs in Bermuda or elsewhere, love to hear from you.
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It's a big news day Friday.
Uh we may be getting uh this health care thing rammed through this weekend in some form or other, if Nancy Pelosi thinks she can do it.
Uh we're also following the developments at Fort Hood uh and uh the uh continuing coverage of major Hassan.
In fact, the media coverage in fact is a story.
The media airbrushing is in fact a story in itself.
Uh and we've been talking about the uh the ten the new ten point two percent unemployment rate.
Do you know it was very strange to me.
I don't like to do a lot of this, but I did see uh President Obama's initial reaction to this uh yesterday.
Uh and there are some things I try to be relatively nonpartisan about, and this is one of them.
Uh you look at what Michael Moore did uh making the most of the my pet goat incident uh when uh George W. Bush was in that grade school in Florida and he was informed about the nine eleven thing and and he nodded and then he went back and he spent the next two minutes finishing my pet goat for the kids so he didn't disturb them, and then he left and dealt with what was happening that day.
And Michael Moore and the rest of the left mocked him mercilessly for that.
Osama bin Laden uh evidently they got uh Michael Moore's film to him, and Osama Bin Laden even re made in one of his alleged statements, I don't know whether it was made by him or whether it was assembled by outtakes uh after the poor guy expired from his uh defective kidney.
They don't have a great health service in Waziristan, but we're going for the Waziristani model here, so uh but he he was doing his um my pet goat jokes out in the caves of Waziristan in whatever I think it was just before the two thousand four election.
He he uh he issued this uh statement advising people to uh that states that voted for John Kerry would have no quarrel with America.
And he did my pet goat jokes in that.
I d I don't want to do the my pet goat thing here, but there was something extremely odd about Obama coming out and doing two minutes of schmoozing and shout-outs, as he called it, he called it a shout-out to some guy in the audience uh at this speech, was the Department of the Interior thing, before he then turned to the events in uh at Fort Hood.
It seemed strange to me.
And one of the bizarre aspects of uh uh of of President Obama's public conduct for a man who is supposed to be such a great orator, is he doesn't uh seem to have any sense of proportion or sense of the moment uh when things like this happen.
It was uh it there was a kind of tinny hollow feel uh to what the president uh was uh was doing at that uh at that press conference.
It it just sort of rang strange.
But when it comes to his priorities, of course, he is highly motivated.
Uh the he's not like uh uh Bill Clinton.
He's not someone content to enjoy the perks of office and just uh tilt here and tilt there according to the the political winds.
Uh he has a transformative domestic agenda.
And we saw on Tuesday's election results, uh the people are already beginning to get unnerved by that.
And the more that so-called health care reform and climate change reform and all the rest of it are associated with unsustainable, unaffordable government spending, the more you will see election results such as we saw on Tuesday.
So uh Obama has a choice here.
He can he can either opt for the Clintonian triangulation deal, or he can say, to hell with this, we're gonna ram it through.
And he's gonna make a uh it looks like he's gonna make an attempt this weekend to ram this thing through.
Now, people talk about the so-called blue dog Democrats, they talk about eighty uh Democrats in the House, maybe twenty uh Democrats in the Senate, who are potentially vulnerable uh in the 2010 election and beyond that.
But you think about it from uh his point of view.
Uh maybe it's worth leaning on some of those house stems to go along with this thing anyway.
What's the worst that can happen?
You lose your seat.
Maybe he'll find you an ambassadorship somewhere.
Uh why wouldn't that be a risk worth taking?
And I think that is the interesting question.
Uh Obama is to a certain extent still unknown.
Where people are still guessing at at him.
If you listen to the so-called moderate uh conservatives, the moderate Republicans like uh like David Brooks in the New York Times, they'll still tell you, oh, he he's still this post-partisan centrist figure.
He he's just in there somewhere.
He just made the mistake of of letting uh Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reed run away with everything.
Uh the reality is that when you look at what his priorities are, the bedrock issues, the bedrock issues, uh then a leftist transformational domestic president uh if he's looking at those election results uh in the cold light of Wednesday morning, then he's gonna have to hurry up and ram this stuff through before the full implications of it have been thought out.
So don't let up your card.
If you've been at the town halls and the tea parties and all the other things, you still need to be there.
You still need uh to let your representatives know uh that you're not gonna that you're you're mad as hell about this stuff, and you're not gonna have your children's and grandchildren's future beggared uh for what is essentially uh an experiment in large-scale social engineering that actually even the Europeans have never attempted on the scale of three hundred million people before.
So uh this is not a moment to let down your guard.
You can be heartened uh by Tuesday's election results, and there are certainly good things, uh uh good aspects of them that are that are worth bearing in mind.
But the pressure has to be kept up, because as we see, Nancy Pelosi and President Obama and Harry Reed are still determined to ram a lot of this stuff down the throats of the American people, no matter if, according to some polls, seventy percent of the people say they don't want it.
Nurse Pelosi knows what's good for us, and she's gonna give it to us whether we want it or not.
1-800-282-2882, Mark Stein Inforush on Open Line Friday, more straight ahead.
Yes, Rush will be back Monday.
But by the way, if you go to Rush Limbaugh.com, you can see all of uh Russia's interview with Chris Wallace from Fox News Sunday, it was a ratings bonanza.
It got Fox News Sunday, its highest ratings of the year, uh and it's posted up there at Rushlimbaugh.com if you need your rush fix and can't wait till Monday.
Um by the way, speaking speaking of Monday, it may be a long weekend for Californians.
Uh on Sunday, cash strapped California.
This is from the LA Times.
Cash strapped California will dig deeper into the pocket books of wage earners, holding back ten percent more than it already does in state income taxes, just as the biggest shopping season of the year kicks into gear.
Technically, it's not a tax increase, unquote.
Hey, that's great news, isn't it?
They're just taking ten percent more of your money than they did the previous week.
But don't worry, it's not a tax increase.
And they say it's it's it's more like a uh an interest-free loan.
You'll be repaid any of this extra money they're taking from you in April, when your when your tax return assuming they've still got it, of course, who knows what could happen by April, the whole thing might have evaporated into in into thin air.
Uh uh is that even legal?
That they g they that suddenly the state can just you're do you you've got your Christmas planning, you're thinking, well, I'll need so much uh for the Turkey, uh I'll need so much for grandma's present, I've got to put aside this for the tree, and suddenly you find that the State of California has just declared that it's taking ten percent extra out of your paycheck every week.
Uh but don't worry, it's not technically a tax increase.
It's just that you have to give more money to the government, but it's not technically a tax increase.
Uh there are times when it doesn't pay to worry about technicalities, uh and when the government is just taking uh ten percent of more of your money because it's decided to, then it doesn't matter what they uh what they call it, they can call it naked confiscation, and apparently they can get away with it in California.
Let us go to Eric in Fairfax, Virginia.
Eric, you're on the Rush Limbaugh show.
It is great to have you with us on Open Line Friday.
Yes, sir.
Um it's a pleasure, Mark.
I I just wanted to discuss about the interview with um Fox News and Susan Collins, the Senator from Maine.
Ah, yes, one of the lovely ladies from Maine.
And uh she what was she she's one of these reach across the aisle types.
What what was she being interviewed on Fox about?
Well, I think you'll be impressed.
She she tried to get the czars to be accountable, but she was stopped by both Congress and and the White House.
Now the these are all the Tsars, these are this legion of people outnumbering, in fact, the original Tsars in the House of Romatov now.
Uh Obama has more Tsars than Imperial Russia had in its entire history.
And these are these people that he has appointed in various areas that are completely unaccountable uh to the American people's representatives in Congress.
Yes, and she was saying that, you know, she just really felt this was wrong.
And I I have to agree with her.
And wouldn't you say that they are usurping the Constitution by not making them accountable?
Yes, and and I think that's the idea that you want to do an end run around uh around uh accountability.
If you're in Obama's uh situation, for example, you take Van Jones, who was his green jobs.
Now if he had appointed Van Jones to a cabinet position, Uh, Van Jones would have had to go through Senate confirmation hearings, and you can imagine the kind of things that might have come up.
He was a truther.
A uh he's a 9-11 truther.
That's to say, he believes uh that the United States government uh knew that 9-11 was going to happen, but he that either helped uh allowed it to happen, or worse, helped facilitate it.
And he's been a 9-11 truther basically since September the twelfth, 2001.
That would have come up in normal Senate confirmation hearings.
But if you just make somebody your green job czar, uh you don't have to go through any of that.
It's a way of doing an end run, uh, not just around the Constitution, but against basic uh democratic accountability.
Yeah, it it it just r really reveals how this whole administration and and Congress are are behaving with the health care and everything else.
It's just uh another.
But you know, that that in a sense, that that is what the Democrat this is why I don't put a lot of stock in the idea of blue dog Democrats defecting here and defecting there and all the rest of it.
Because the Democrats are very disciplined about power because they're agreed on there.
They're they're they're agreed on s on one basic core element.
That whatever your particular bag happens to be, whether it's the environment or health care or unions or whatever, if you're a Democrat, the best way to advance your agenda is through more government and more government power.
And so they think seriously about power.
They think seriously about how you wield power, about how you get power.
Now you compare it to the Bush administration.
The the the the Bush administration in the wake of September eleventh had to make some basic changes uh to how it did uh to to how certain things were done.
Uh we had a ton of dysfunctional agencies.
They moved the immigration service into homeland security and and all the rest of it.
Uh they did all that legitimately.
Uh they they didn't do Bush could have uh Bush could have appointed all kinds of Tsars, uh, but on the whole he didn't.
Uh and and if he had done, uh the Washington Post and the New York Times would have been screaming at him that he was uh was turning this uh country into a fascist police state.
They did that anyway.
They did that all the uh just over the so-called uh library books thing, that that Bush and Cheney were looking at what library books uh you were reading.
There's no evidence uh they ever did that.
If they had looked at what Major Hassan uh what he was reading uh uh d uh d while he was at Walter Reed, it might have been actually been hugely beneficial.
But in fact, this whole thing, oh Bush and Cheney, uh they're f they they're watching what library books you read.
The whole thing was that Bush was running a uh had destroyed the shredded the Constitution and run a police state.
Now we have a guy governing by czars, governing by czars, and uh and and uh uh the media are entirely relaxed about it.
Because these are nice czars.
They're not like those Russian czars.
These are these are these are good czars.
These are compassionate.
We've got compassionate czarism.
Yeah, they they are a H.R. makes a good point.
There are there are Tsars.
They're Tsars on the side of the angels.
And and so now we are, as I said around here last time we're dancing we're dancing with the czars.
Is there no end to this?
In the end we've got effectively what they call in the British system a shadow cabinet.
There are cabinet officials here, but they don't mean they don't really mean anything.
They go to conferences like Hillary Clinton.
I don't know where where's Hillary Hillary today.
Is she, you know, she's she's in the ca she'll be in the capital of Chad.
Uh and uh having a top-level meeting.
She'll be having a top-level meeting uh with the deputy trade minister of Chad.
Meanwhile, all anything that matters is being done by a uh by an Obama uh czar.
He's got czars for Afghanistan, he's got uh he's got Tsars for the Middle East, he's got Tsars for all the key foreign policy areas, and and that doesn't leave a lot for Secretary of State uh Clinton, nominal Secretary of State Clinton to do.
So she's in Chad having a top-level meeting.
Uh and uh and if she's lucky, they'll then take her take her to a high school where she can terrify terrify some poor kid when he when he asks her if Bill is dating again.
So it will be It's a wonderful, it's a wonderful life to be Secretary of State clerk.
You think about this poor woman.
This poor woman, up till whatever it was a little over a year ago, thought she was gonna be the president of the United States.
She was the thought she was gonna be going to the A-list banquets with uh with with with the with the presidents and the kings and queens and prime ministers.
And now the poor woman is in Chad meeting with the Deputy Trade Minister.
And don't bother calling up and say, Oh, it's it's she's not in Chad, she's in Senegal.
I don't care.
She's not where she wants to be.
Uh she's in Tonga, yeah.
She's a she's in Toga having uh having lunch with the King of Tonga.
Actually, uh that would be one of the better deals.
If I was a Uyghur, I'd like to be Uyghurs in Tonga, I could go with.
Um they're both cricket terms, I think.
Anyway, uh Australia bowled uh two tongens uh in the first three Uyghurs at Lord's yesterday.
Uh let us go quickly to Robert in uh how do you say that, Robert?
Munising uh Michigan?
Munising, yes sir.
Munising, munising.
Well, what what do you it sounds like musing?
What what municings do you have to share with us on the show today?
Well, I just worry about this whole cap and trade deal.
It it looks to me like it's gonna end up costing us money uh going into the hands of some you know, primitive people in some other country digging dig into a shovel and planting trees.
The money's coming straight out of our pocket.
It don't look like it I don't know.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You the money isn't gonna go to primitive people to plant trees in in some third world country.
They're gonna be they're gonna be deforesting at their usual rate.
The money will be going to uh to uh at some Al Gore carbon offset uh uh construction that will be paying money I however it works.
It works this way.
You say to uh you say type uh okay, uh I'm allowed to fly first class uh because I'm buying a certain number of offsets uh so a uh a jihadist in a cave in Waziristan has agreed not to use his cell phone.
Uh and that way that that's the way the whole thing works.
It doesn't actually no money actually goes to to th third world the third world countries i in the end, it will go to a few dictators here or there.
But but actually what it is is it's a massive transfer uh certainly this Copenhagen thing is is to this embryo world agency that uh will regulate every aspect of your life.
And by the time they've taken the money they need to run that and have the bureaucrats flying here or there to decide whether your toilet tank is small enough, uh whether you're y uh using the two-ply toilet paper from Canada, as we discussed a couple of weeks ago on the show.
Uh by the time they've been through all that, there isn't going to be a lot of money left over to help uh uh poor little people in uh in third world countries.
So that's that's not what it's about.
And it's gonna cost uh obviously jobs uh jobs here, Robert.
And certainly in somewhere like Michigan, which is like the the prototype scheme for a uh where America's economy is heading, it's not going to do anything to uh restore industry in uh in Michigan, Robert.
Think of some bell we do carbon is my question to you.
Um we know we gotta get well th they came to church and told us it has to get back down to three hundred and fifty parts per million and it's up to around four hundred or some something like that.
And if it gets up too high, then the big trouble starts and the ice is melting and all that.
So how do we get the carbon back down?
Well, look, the the the reality about that is that we do not know what portion uh of uh climate change is affected by man's behavior.
If you look at it historically across the millennia, uh when you go back to the Little Ice Age, uh when you go back to the medieval warm period, uh the the uh climate has fluctuated far more dramatically than it has uh in the last century.
Now if you t if you take the c the idea that the one degree increase across the last century, which has basically stopped in the last ten years, by the way, uh we're now in a cooling trend.
Um if you if you if you say, is that worth destroying the global economy over?
No.
I don't think so.
Because because if there if if if there is a solution to this uh and it is something that man can achieve, then it will be done by man's natural innovation.
It will be done by somebody inventing somewhere something somewhere in a first world economy.
So that so you're not gonna make anything better by destroying first world economies, especially not when you say that uh China and India can go on polluting all the hell they want and it doesn't make any difference uh anyway.
The the the this whole thing, this whole thing is not about climate.
Again, this gets back to what we were saying earlier.
It's about control.
It's about control.
Uh And the and the environment is the perfect catch-all to enable government to regulate any aspect of your life.
They tax they want to tax bovine flatulence in Europe.
Can you imagine that?
In the in in can you imagine then the the worst king, the worst medieval king in the first millennium, saying, Oh, here's a great idea.
Uh we're gonna tax bovine flatulence so that the peasant, Jack and the Beanstalk, Jack, with his cow, we're gonna tell Jack he's got to pay a huge almighty tax on the cow because of the cow's flatulence.
The courtiers would have said, Oh, I don't think the peasants are gonna buy that, Your Majesty.
I don't think the peasants are gonna buy that.
But you do it in the name of the environment.
You do it in the name of the environment, and you can get away with it.
Uh and and the idea that this will make any difference to to the particles of carbon in the atmosphere is uh is preposterous.
So that's not even if that is a problem, that's not the way to solve it.
Lots more uh straight ahead.
1-800-282-2882, Mark Stein in for rush on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Mark Stein in for Rush on the EIB network.
Let's uh quickly take a call from Bob in Greenville, South Carolina.
Bob, thanks for waiting.
You're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
No problem.
Uh Mark, I uh recently finished uh rereading uh a book by Pat Buchanan, uh the death of the West, and he's got chapter four or five in there, and it talks about four who made a revolution, and it refers to uh people like Gramski and Adorno and a few other names that I can't remember right now.
Essentially, he he said that uh the Marxists uh Pat Buchanan said that the Marxists realized that they couldn't beat us with bullets.
We were too powerful, we were we we just uh there was too much inertia uh that they would have to work against to beat us that way.
So they determined that they would take a long slow trek through all of our institutions, our schools, our colleges, our you know, what you're gonna do.
Right.
And they're and they're uh and and and when you look at people like William Ayers, they figured it out.
There's no point trying to blow up military bases, uh no point trying to uh uh in a country like America, there's no point trying to blow up the buildings.
You get inside the building and hollow it out from within.
Exactly.
And that's uh that's what I want to ask you about.
As a retired school principal from New York, now living in South Carolina, I have a bit of perspective, and I've been able to read for ten years since I've been retired, and I've really looked at a lot of these issues.
What I what I want to ask you is since this took a really long time to happen, and we have so many uh people uh that that are uh, you know, have uh allegiance to the left in our universities, and let's face this, the labor unions are uh lead left, which makes most teachers a little bit more sensitive to their needs, no, a lot more sensitive to the uh to the needs of the left and and and so on.
Do you think that we're going to be able to to s uh you know, in a quick way, I don't think it's gonna be a quick way.
I don't think you can roll this back in a in a quick way, Bob.
And I think actually if socialist health care passes, it becomes all but impossible to roll it back because you fundamentally deform the relationship between the citizen and the state.
Uh and if you look at what has happened in uh in Canada and in Europe, then it becomes uh extremely difficult.
But the American people are the are the uh the last great uh uh are the last great self-reliant citizens uh in the Western world.
They're not like Europeans, and they will push this back.
More to come.
Mark Stein in for us, I gotta run, the border patrol are breaking down the door.
Have a great uh weekend.
Watch what happens on health care.
If you're in California, enjoy that great extra ten percent withholding from the state that uh kicks in on Sunday.
Bob wanted to know whether we could roll it back.
It would be a lot easier to stop it happening in the first place.
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