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	Yes, America's Anchorman is away, and this is your undocumented anchor man sitting in.
	Mark Stein, I'll be here today.
	Rush will be back on Monday, ready to start another fine week of excellence in broadcasting.
	It is always an honor for me to sit behind the golden I actually I was gonna I was gonna say the golden EIB microphone, but but Rush took the golden EIB microphone with him to Los Angeles and it's not coming back.
	So now we just have the dull what is what is this thing?
	Uh lead the lead microphone.
	It's been custom built to my presentation style.
	Uh w wonderful thing.
	The the lead the lead is it radioactive lead?
	Is it one of those is it just the lead paint that'll that'll uh that'll completely uh screw up anything I say years from now.
	They'll be saying w when I'm on the when I'm on the overnight show on WZZZ A. M. they'll be saying he makes no sense now.
	And it'll be the lead paint from the lead EIB microphone.
	Open line Friday, one-eight hundred-two eight two eight eight two.
	That means you can talk about you can talk about anything you want to talk about, except as we said at the beginning of the show, cricket.
	No cricket talk.
	Uh we're not going to have any googlies, not going to have any maidenovers, not gonna talk about uh Sri Lanka's performance uh against New Zealand, none of that.
	But anything other than crit cricket, you want to talk about one-eight hundred-two eight two-two eight eight two.
	You want to talk about Uyghurs?
	Uh normally when I'm uh sitting behind the the lead paint EIB microphone, uh I I like to have a couple of Uyghur stories on the go, but we don't know any Uyghur stories today.
	But if you if you know of one that we haven't got to, uh do call me up.
	Uh we were talking in the first hour uh about uh the sudden Jihad syndrome that manifested itself fatally at Fort Hood.
	We are really uh at the thirtieth anniversary of America's first contemporary engagement uh with radical Islam.
	Thirty years ago, the Iranian hostages were seized at the embassy in Tehran.
	Uh Don Rumsfeld, a couple of years before that, Don R Donald Rumsfeld was speaking in Washington, and he used a line, which I think is a terrific line, weakness is a provocation.
	That is why those hostages were seized in Tehran thirty years ago.
	Uh because the entire uh Jimmy Carter presidency was weakness, and that weakness was a provocation uh to America's embassies all over the world, including to what were then a bunch of uh nickel and dime Islamic revolutionaries in Tehran.
	What what catapulted them into the big league?
	It wasn't the uh so much the Ayatollah toppling the Shah.
	It was that uh these guys decided we're not bound by even the most basic rules.
	And and no rule is more basic, by the way, to relations between sovereign states uh than uh respecting embassies.
	Nobody had to worry about uh the US Embassy in Moscow being seized by the Soviets.
	No one has to worry about the US interest section in Havana being seized by Castro.
	But the Iranians weren't even on that level.
	They understood that Jimmy Carter was a weakling and that weakness is a provocation, and they seized those hostages thirty years ago today.
	This is the season of anniversaries.
	Uh twenty years ago, the Berlin Wall fell, the symbolic end to the Cold War, uh uh which the good guys won.
	The right crowd won.
	Eastern Europe was a prison, uh uh a a totalitarian prison that had taken half a continent.
	And the great symbolic moment when that prison regime fell, uh was when the Berlin Wall uh came down twenty years ago.
	Uh Barack Obama has chosen not to be in Berlin for that.
	If they'd offered him whatever it was, you know, if they'd offered him another, they don't have the Nobel Prizes uh in Berlin, but if they'd offered him some kind of other award, the MTV Germany cool coolest performer award, uh best spoken word recording at the uh at the Berlin Grammys or whatever they call them there for his iPod that he gave the Queen with all of his greatest speeches on.
	I'm surprised you can get all of Obama's great speeches onto one iPod.
	Uh but I'm surprised i if he'd said we're gonna give you a best spoken word recording award for that, he'd have been in Berlin in a in an instant.
	But to go there for the fall of the Berlin Wall, he decided he couldn't he couldn't fit that into his hectic schedule right now, so he's not gonna be there for that.
	1-800-282-2882.
	Uh we'll we'll talk about those.
	We'll also talk about uh the uh continuing uh news as it emerges out of uh Fort Hood and that story uh and um uh and bring up some uh other other news as well.
	I see we don't uh we don't know any Uyghur stories, but the Yana Manny tribe in Venezuela has been severely affected by uh swine flu by the old H1N one.
	The Yano Manny tribe, uh w there's only thirty two thousand of them left, uh but they've been disproportionately affected by the H1N1 and the Venezuelan government, uh so in other words this is Hugo Chavez's responsibility but uh but but survival international, this humanitarian group says the situation is is critical.
	Uh th they apparently the Venezuelan health care service isn't all it's cracked up to be, at least uh in terms of providing services to the Yanomani tribe.
	Uh if you think a Yanomani tribesman has it tough at the moment, wait until Obamacare has been in operation for three or four years and you may be wanting to go if you if you you if you've got a like a little bit of elective surgery and it's taken too long to wait for it in uh in say Westchester County, you may just want to hop a plane and go and get it taken care of in some Yanomani tribal uh hospital in the Venezuelan jungle.
	Uh pay problem parents not to breed.
	Uh this is a mayor in New Zealand who uh Michael Laws, who who says uh that they should uh w uh they should pay the so-called quote appalling underclass unquote not to breed because these children have no hope from the moment they're born uh so there's no point there's no point letting them uh letting them have children.
	We should pay them not to have children.
	In effect that's actually what Europe has done.
	Europe has given uh its population so many benefits now.
	If you take Germany for example, in Germany everybody stays in school until they're about thirty-four and then they take early retirement at forty-two and they wonder why that they can't make the math of that society add up.
	Uh that uh we we in effect pay people as it is not to have children uh by extending education into the early twenties, mid-twenties, late twenties, early thirties, and then by uh coming up with so many benefits uh that you no longer need to to uh you actually break people's uh survival instinct and procreative instinct.
	But apparently this is quite a controversial guy in New Zealand.
	He called the late King of Tonga a bloated brown slug apparently which it would not be uh something that would advance his political career.
	Apparently it's no obstacle to a political career in New Zealand, but it would certainly cause him problems here.
	I always like the uh I was like the late uh King of Tonga.
	Uh the uh co Queen Saloti of Tonga, I think is my favorite Tongan mar monarch.
	By the way it's Tonga, not Tonga.
	Um Queen Saloti is my favorite Tongan monarch.
	At Queen Elizabeth II's coronation, she was riding in a carriage with a very she was like a huge woman and she had this very little small man next to her who is about four foot four.
	And uh some somebody inquired as to who that uh who the small man next to the huge Queen of Tonga was and I believe it was Noel Coward who said it was her lunch, but that's m very multiculturally insensitive.
	Anyway, that's my Tongue and monarchy jokes for today.
	There's a woman I think she's going to be on TV here later today, 29 year old woman who has uh who has two vaginas.
	So presumably if we're paying uh people not to have children, uh she'll get twice the payment.
	Yeah, a double a double dipper.
	Uh speaking of uh speaking of which Lauren Williams was told by her doctor uh that she could get pregnant twice at the same time, but she shouldn't.
	So that if her if she's pregnant in one uterus, she and her partner should use condoms, uh still use condoms just in case she gets pregnant with the other uterus.
	Uh this is Lauren Williams who has two vaginas, uh two cervixes and two uteruses.
	So if that isn't doesn't entitle her to two of the welfare checks to be paid not to have children, I don't know what is so we may get to some of those peripheral problems, uh peripheral stories as well anything you want to talk about 1 eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two.
	One thing we should talk about is the unemployment rate.
	Ten point two percent, I mentioned this in the last hour this is uh double digit unemployment.
	This is the highest it's been now for the uh for a quarter century.
	Uh if you take into account uh people who've s uh effectively stopped looking or who are making do with part time jobs or whatever, you you can make the case that the real underlying unemployment rate is about seventeen percent.
	What is uh what is the Democratic Party's solution to this?
	Uh as we've seen, it's to uh tax people more, but don't worry, they're just gonna tax, they're just gonna tax Nancy Pelosi says they're just gonna tax millionaires.
	And don't worry, there's not a lot of those.
	So you don't have to worry about that.
	Uh th they're going to introduce massive new entitlements that will increase uh the debt and the deficit and and the general unaffordability of the Federal Government even more.
	Uh and uh they are going to do things that will ensure that that ten point two percent unemployment rate uh if we're lucky could be a permanent feature of life.
	And if we're not lucky, it'll go a lot higher.
	Uh Senator John D. Rockefeller, Democrat of West Virginia, John D. Rockefeller IV, Jay Rockefeller, uh he said as he left a meeting of Senate leaders yesterday, the question is, do people think we're tending to the things they care about?
	Um he said that his concern this is a Democrat Senator.
	His concern is that people are beginning to tell him that the agenda that Democrats are pursuing, health care and climate change, have very little impact uh on people who are focused on finding or keeping jobs.
	Uh I don't think people in my state are going to stand up and start cheering about Copenhagen.
	This is what he's saying.
	By the way, uh Copenhagen is this big climate change thing that uh essentially is going to be a big global climate change regime.
	Not only are people not going to be cheering about that, but if they've got any sense, they're going to be mad as hell about it, because that's going to make unemployment worse, that's going to make the economy worse, that's gonna uh make regulation worse, that is going to decrease the likelihood uh that you will be able to have a buoyant, uh vibrant economy ever again.
	When when Jay Rockefeller, who is the nearest to a mainstream Democrat, uh starts wondering out loud whether whether the Democratic agenda represents what people care about, uh you know that they're beginning whatever they might say in public, they're beginning to get the message of what happened on Tuesday.
	So we're gonna talk about the economy uh straight ahead, and we also talk about the plans to ram health care down the throats of the American people uh over this weekend.
	All that straight ahead, and of course, anything you want to talk about.
	Uyghurs, women with two uteruses, Uyghurs with two uteruses, we'll take your calls on any subject you want to talk about.
	1-800-282-2882.
	Mark Stein, in for rush on the EIB network.
	I mentioned uh in the last hour uh w why did this uh this guy uh the Ford Hood shooting, why was he promoted to major in May, despite what everyone knew about him?
	Uh and I've had uh a lot of um Army people write to me to say uh uh a doctor gets promoted to major if he's board certified in a specialty.
	In this case, it uh would be Major Hassan's speciality of psychiatry.
	You start as a captain when you graduate from medical school.
	So when he was at Walter Reed, he basically interned at Walter Reed as a captain, you you get that automatically when you come out of medical school, and when you're board certified in a specialty uh in specialty uh in this case psychiatry, then you automatically get uh get promoted to major.
	So that's apparently the reason the reason for that.
	1800, 282, 2882, open line Friday, and that means you can talk about, you can talk about anything you that is on your mind.
	Lots of things to talk about today.
	Uh the uh the uh economy, the ten point two un uh percent unemployment rate.
	The worst thing we could do in a recession is raise taxes, and this bill does just that.
	Those are the words of Representative Dan Borin of uh Oklahoma.
	He's a Democrat, and he's a Democrat looking toward his re election prospects in twenty ten.
	The question then is how many of those are there?
	Uh We heard earlier there's uh talk that there's maybe sixty-nine House Democrats who are not on board with Nancy Pelosi's bill.
	Sixty-nine, something like that, uh which she has to hold uh at least twenty-nine of those sixty-nine Democrats.
	She can lose 40.
	Uh she can lose uh 40 uh so-called blue dog Democrats and still get this sucker through.
	But if if it is sixty-nine, uh then the bill is over.
	Nancy Belosi has said that she doesn't care if she this is the right thing to do, and she doesn't care if she loses her seat uh over this.
	And you may be wondering, by the way, why if if if government health care is such an obviously benign, caring progressive thing to do, wh why the Democrats, including their leader in the House, are openly talking uh about paying the political price for it?
	Uh because it isn't in the end about health care.
	It's about control.
	It's about control.
	Uh and what government health care does for the Democrats uh is deliver a permanent left-of-center political landscape, uh which we'll talk about uh uh uh a bit later in the show today.
	But it's intimately connected with the 10.2 percent unemployment rate.
	And it's intimately connected uh with the uh election results on Tuesday.
	The fascinating thing to me was was not so much the the the top of the bill items losing the the the governor's races, the Democrats losing the governor's races in New Jersey and Virginia.
	What was interesting to me was when you dig down into the numbers, uh the way all these solidly blue suburban, wealthy suburbs, uh Westchester County, the Connecticut Coast, uh uh uh similar counties in New Jersey and Virginia.
	This is all the territory that the so-called moderate conservatives, the reform conservatives, uh the reform Republicans have told us that the GOP has lost.
	The GOP, they say, has no appeal except to stumptooth knuckle-dragging uh rednecks with pickup trucks.
	It's be that's that's what it's become.
	It's got no appeal to these wealthy suburban voters.
	Well, on Tuesday, these wealthy suburban voters signaled that they're not as wealthy as they thought they were.
	A year ago they thought they could afford to vote for Barack Obama.
	Uh they thought uh that uh the I the the the free son of voting uh for this benign post-partisan healer came without a price, came without a ticket.
	And what they said uh if you look at voting patents on Tuesday is that they are worried they can no longer afford the benign post-partisan healer.
	And they're absolutely right about that.
	And that's really why uh conservatives should be pleased about what's happened uh on Tuesday, uh because moderates and and independents abandon the Democratic brand in large number.
	And for a very simple reason, that this stuff is unaffordable.
	You've got to be extremely rich.
	You've got to be Hollywood rich to afford the Obama presidency, because all kinds of things are going to be more expensive, all kinds of things are going to be more regulated, uh and all kinds of things are just going to be just plain worse, like the waiting time.
	If you need surgery, the waiting time you uh it's gonna require to get to it.
	And what's fascinating to me is how quickly uh uh uh uh not really purple precincts, but actually deep blue precincts in Westchester County, uh, Connecticut, suburban Virginia, suburban New Jersey woke up to this uh and turned to the Republicans in ways that should be very encouraging, I think, for the for the Republican Party as it goes into 2010.
	I don't doubt the capacity of the Republican Party uh to screw this up in their i in their usual way and inflict a few New York 23 type uh scenarios on us.
	But uh the the the kernel of reality uh is well understood by these people.
	You've got to be extremely wealthy to afford the Obama Presidency, and most of us are not that wealthy.
	Uh and they get it in Westchester County, they get it in Connecticut, they get it in Virginia, they get it in New Jersey.
	This 10.2 percent unemployment rate.
	Uh why is that?
	Uh one reason is that even if the economy uh has picked up, people are reluctant to start hiring again.
	Why are they reluctant to start hiring?
	Because they don't know what kind of new costs, employee costs, uh the Democratic Congress is going to impose on employers.
	Uh Is it true that if you if you if you decide not to offer health care, if you don't sign up to the government plan, uh you're going to be taxed uh eight uh face an eight percent tax for not providing health care for your employees.
	Uh these are all reasons why small employers across the country, even if business is beginning to pick up again, are going to be very wary about hiring anybody uh new right now.
	Uh so we'll talk about the 10 point two percent unemployment rate and the state of the economy and what Tuesday's election results mean for all that straight ahead on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
	1800 28282 and Rush will be back of course Monday at noon Eastern.
	Mark Stein in for Rush talking about uh the shooting at Fort Hood will also be talking about health care and uh the new ten point two percent unemployment uh figure but it's Open Line Friday you get to talk about anything you want to talk about too 1800 28282.
	Let's go to Brian in Indianapolis.
	Brian you're live on the Rush Limbaugh show.
	Thank you so much for taking my call and I must say that if no supporting paperwork uh gives us Mark Stein then I say bring out the paper shredders.
	Exactly.
	I'm in favor of that anyway.
	You know when uh when the president said uh President Bush used to talk about how we need to bring more pe bring the undocumented Americans out of the shadows.
	I say no I like actually living in the shadows free from government paperwork.
	We should all get that option.
	Okay, Brian so uh I take it your your your papered up to the hilt.
	You've uh that's good to I wanted to talk about the 10 point two percent before I do I just wanted to comment on the last subject I think that the only thing that is worse than not fighting uh this you know this horrible uh Islamic ideology is to ignore it or pretend that it doesn't exist.
	That is actually in my opinion much more dangerous.
	And that's what our mainstream media is doing right now.
	Yeah uh uh I see there's uh there's currently a uh a shooting going on in in Florida and it will be interesting to see whether this uh man uh it's a apparently some guy who just worked walked into an office building where he used to work and started firing.
	Be interesting to see whether he gets the same protective insulation in the news coverage uh that the the mainstream media have provided to uh major Hassan uh and and uh I think it's uh uh it seems uh I think he used to work in this building and he decided to go in and shoot it up.
	But uh you you also wanted to talk about the economy.
	Yes.
	I really think that this is a a huge indictment against this administration because remember uh this was all supposed to be a lot lower by now and I heard this morning several different people say that this new number is a stark reminder that more needs to be done.
	And I pr I just about lost my breakfast because in my opinion too much has been done.
	Way too much is no no no no Brian don't you know how many jobs the government has quote created or saved under Yes I do, Mark not enough to counter the new 10 point two percent so much has been done they need to get out of the way if it weren't for the stimulus funding the unemployment rate would be seventy point three percent by now.
	Don't you and I wouldn't be talking as the world would have come to a complete halt if we didn't have that Nancy Pelosi said earlier this year that ten million Americans were losing their jobs every she said this I think this was a week before they passed the stimulus bill.
	I remember ten million Americans were losing their jobs every month.
	That's five hundred million Americans losing their jobs every year.
	Do you realize that's a billion that's two billion Americans unemployed in Barack Obama's first term alone that aren't even born have already lost their jobs.
	That's right illegal immigrants who haven't yet had a chance to do their subminimum wage seasonal fruit picking have already been laid off before they've even left Venezuela.
	This this this would be what is happening.
	This would be what is happening if Barack Obama hadn't descended hadn't decided to throw uh billions and billions of dollars scarifying pavement uh all over the lower 48.
	That is that has made a a a a that is saved these numbers from being even far more horrifying than they would have been.
	I remember when I was eight years old sitting on my dad's lap and I I really remember looking at this actor now gone president and my dad said to me, now you get ready to listen because you're going to hear something that he called a great paradox and I remember saying what is that he said well it's kind of magical Brian when you lower the requirement that people are are need that have to give through taxes up go the coffers through income and up go the coffers through people working.
	And when you lower the penalty that people have for making investments up go the coffers for America when you basically let Americans be Americans good things happen.
	And that template was set in 1983 and I it's why I believe that this administration as you've said it as I know Russia said many times is doing this on purpose because if they wanted to lower the unemployment rate, if they wanted to see this economy build, these are the last things they would be doing.
	They would be setting their hands to the things that have already been proven.
	But I believe they want an entitlement society.
	I believe they want an a society that lives on handouts, government reliance.
	They want unemployment.
	They want increased poverty I think they want a a a society divided into three groups.
	There are basically the dependent class and and you've heard that today where they say well well with these unemployment numbers we're going to need to increase the amount of money people get so they can stay on unemployment longer.
	You increase the dependency class you increase the bureaucracy class that services them that the that uh that gives them the government handouts and you also increase uh in terms of the so-called private sector uh uh companies that are nominally private but essentially depend on their contacts with government.
	So for example if you've got the the contract to uh print the the envelope in which the welfare check is mailed out on, you're essentially part of the the government payroll too.
	And if you do all that you leave a very small group of people in the middle who are in genuinely productive, dynamic entrepreneurial private industry, who are getting squeezed on every side and there is at that point, as there is all over the Western world, no point in being in dynamic entrepreneurial private uh sector business anymore.
	People think, you know, when Obama spends money that it's that it's just he takes a trillion dollars and the government spends it in wasteful ways.
	He hasn't conjured that trillion dollars out of thin air.
	He's actually taken most of it from us.
	So that trillion dollars the people could have been spending in any which way hiring somebody developing a new product or even just going to the general store and gassing up and buying a uh a couple of cases and beer driving deep into the woods and sitting on a rock and getting yourself plastered because the country's going to hell even that would have been a more productive use of it than taking a trillion dollars,
	giving it to a bureaucrat in Washington who's going to decide what projects around the country are the ones that the government will decide to bless with its largesse.
	Brian this is a very very dark path we're tiptoeing down I was sitting down last night enjoying uh some cigars with friends two nights ago actually and and the question came up well why would they be doing this?
	And I said I really believe that the issues are never the issues with Democrats with liberals.
	It's not about health care and making it better.
	It's not about environmental lunacy and making it better.
	It is about power and it's about control.
	And thank God that there are winds I I really believe that are moving in this nation standing up against it.
	But mark my words this is what this is about and I'm very proud to be an American in the sense that many great Americans are standing up and saying whether I voted for it or not, this is not the America I know this is not the America I'm going to raise my children in and I will stand up and fight and we'll see what happens.
	But I'm proud to be an American on this day.
	Yeah and actually that's a that's a very good way of putting it that it's about control.
	It's it i i th the advantage people say well where did these issues come from but did they just come out of nowhere?
	No they didn't.
	The advantage of health care is it gives the government the opportunity to control and regulate every part of your life.
	Every part of your body, uh, every part of your diet.
	These are issues now that in countries that have socialized health care, the government claims the right to interfere in on the grounds uh that they have to pay for you to get better uh if you get an illness, so they have a right to tell you how to lead your life so you won't get ill.
	It's the same thing uh in in an even grander scale with the uh environment.
	Because the environment, if you think of pretty much everything that health care covers, then the environment covers everything else.
	There's an Australian environmentalist talking about this climate change conference in Copenhagen.
	He said uh we all too often mistake the nature of those negotiations in Copenhagen.
	This is a guy called Tim Flannery, he's one of these jet-setting uh doom-saying global warming mongers who flies all over the world with a huge carbon footprint, but it's okay for him to do it because he's telling all the rest of us how to live.
	Uh and he says we think of them as being concerned with some sort of environmental treaty.
	That is far from the case.
	The negotiations going on at Copenhagen are diplomacy at the most profound global level.
	They deal with every aspect of our life, and they will influence every aspect of our life, our economy, our society.
	Did you know that environmentalists at Copenhagen were negotiating every aspect of your life?
	This is one of those honest environmentalists who happens to have just kind of uh cheerfully given the game away.
	That's what it's about.
	And that's the advantage of the environment and health care to the Democratic Party.
	That if you if you accept these as core issues and if you sign on to the democratic view of these issues, you are in fact licensing government uh to control uh every particular of your life in both the smallest aspects,
	that's to say what's going on inside your body uh and the biggest aspects, which is to say the environment, because between them, pretty much everything is either inside your body or part of the environment, and that l gives the government the right to control and regulate every aspect of your life.
	And Brian is right about that.
	Mark Stein in for Rush on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
	Lots more straight ahead.
	Open line Friday, 1-800-282-2882.
	Mark Stein in for Rush on the EIB Network.
	We were talking to Brian in Indianapolis.
	Wawa on a Brian roll.
	Let's go to Brian in Clemens, North Carolina.
	It's all Brian Friday on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
	Brian, you're on the air.
	Well, I'm I'm glad to follow the other Brian.
	And uh let me flatter the host for a moment and tell you how much I enjoy uh your airudition and also your uh cosmopolitan and urbane sense of humor.
	Wait a minute.
	Cosmopolitan and uh is that's kind kind of code lag.
	What is that?
	Like a little bit of light on his loafers?
	Well, yeah, yeah, touch of the old tassel loafers uh Cosmopolitan and uh Bane.
	Yeah, but you've you've been everywhere.
	That's another one of those code expressions.
	No, no, no, it's not.
	No, it's not.
	Don't put me there, please.
	Okay.
	No metrosexual guest hosts on this show.
	Please don't.
	I can assure you that no John Edwards hair gel ever used by a Rush Limbaugh guest host.
	Okay, you can you can rely on that.
	Okay, Brian, uh uh uh aside from uh aside from my tassel loafers, what what else did you uh Well, you know, I want to just continue to expand on the previous conversation.
	I'm I'm thinking about perhaps a little deeper historically.
	Um I'm thinking about uh an article that George Will wrote uh before Obama um came into office.
	And he was comparing uh our our recent president, George Bush to Hoover, and he was comparing Barack Obama to FDR.
	And uh and I would say to a certain extent, uh we had the same type of thing happen again uh following the Great Society with having Nixon with wage and price uh controls or freezes, and then followed by a big government uh Jimmy Carter that put us into the huge recession that we had then.
	Yeah.
	And and I think, you know, it's really important to not only um, you know, expose the the chimera mythology of Keynesian economics, but just uh, you know, expose uh the myth of the of uh the New Deal and the Great Society, which which I know happens on this show as well, too, but it it just can't be said too often.
	And I think, you know, it's it's not a surprise that we've uh we've ended up where we are right now.
	It's not a surprise that we're heading with it, forty percent of people are not paying federal taxes now.
	No, no.
	And what you're you're right in the sense that it's always uh Republican accommodations with uh progressive ideas uh that pave the way uh for the next big wave of liberalism.
	That is what uh hu hoover Hoover did with FB FDR.
	Hoover is was nobody's idea of a laissez-faire capitalist.
	Likewise Nixon uh with uh i various in introducing his various government controls, paving the way for Jimmy Carter and Malays, and likewise, I think, as you say, certain aspects of the Bush presidency uh that were were good, like lowering tax rates, but that uh but that also had bad consequences such as uh taking taking uh citizens out of the federal tax paying pool entirely.
	That is not good for that is simply not good uh uh d for the for the integrity of the taxation system.
	You're right about that, Brian.
	Well yeah, and expanding uh the uh prescription benefits, uh uh you expanded uh uh you know the education as well, you know, in terms of uh the that I forget what the name of that law was right now.
	Right.
	And then also the TARP thing.
	Um but uh you know, I I was thinking about uh you know how World War II uh brought us out of the depression.
	Uh you know, no, no, no, no, no.
	G give FDR his due.
	Uh the rest of the world had a depression.
	America had a great depression, in part because FDR managed to keep it going until Pearl Harbor, uh which uh which uh by then almost every economic basket case on the planet had been out of it for a while, uh but but he he managed uh through uh FDR's policies uh to keep it going all the way till nineteen forty one.
	Yeah, I uh at the beginning of World War II there was over fourteen percent unemployment still.
	And then and then thinking of uh of Reagan, you know, how he brought us out uh even facing the majorities he had of Democrats in the in the in the uh House and the Senate.
	I mean, he started off with the Senate being Republican, but that vanished pretty quickly.
	And and I and I love the way he campaigned against Carter, talking about the misery index.
	And I'm looking forward to some Republican, you know, I you know, Russia's houses hope and change working for you, but I'd love somebody to come back and riff on the misery index again, knowing that sixty-nine percent of Americans in this last year have either lost their jobs or had their wages reduced.
	Right.
	And in fact, th but you know I I take what you say about the misery index.
	Uh and Rush is anti-hope.
	He thinks hope is a concept for losers.
	Right.
	And uh and I'm kind of sympathetic to to that broad line.
	But it would be nice for somebody to start a hope index, because actually what uh the Obama administration and the Democrats are doing are destroying hope.
	Uh they're actually uh they're actually destroying the possibility that your kids and grandkids will live the American dream.
	They're actually uh they're actually making certain the possibility now uh th they're making they're making certain the reality of intergenerational poverty that we're spending now at such a rate that our grandkids will never be able to dig their way out of this.
	Uh so the Hope Index, the th i if there was a hope index, it would be way down in negative numbers right now.
	That is that is actually what is going on.
	All this spending is destroying hope.
	It's destroying the possibility of of uh uh a future.
	It's actually the death of the American dream, which is uh a concept that dates from uh the early nineteen thirties.
	Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.
	Yeah, well I've I've got uh sons and grandsons, and that that irritates me terribly.
	Um I think of Margaret Thatcher, uh who who I think got this just right in a very succinct way.
	The problem with socialism is what do you do when you run out of being able to spend other people's money.
	So that's very true.
	Uh that's a great light for uh Mrs. Thatcher.
	Brian, thank you for your call.
	We got to run lots more straight ahead.
	Open line Friday on the EIB network.
	Mark Stein in for Rush.
	Rush will be back Monday.
	Fanny May, Fannie May, Barney Frank's favorite government agency has just asked for another fifteen billion dollars because uh from the government, because they've uh they lost nineteen billion dollars, another nineteen between July and September.
	And they're always gonna uh go on losing money because they are a uh a significant government distortion of the property market.
	Uh the homeowner home ownership is something that all conservatives should support, because uh it it is generally in the interests of a responsible self-reliant citizenry to have high levels of home ownership.
	But it's got to be real homeownership.
	And when you you gerrymander and rig the market and you lower your lending criteria so that uh borrowers who actually sh uh uh shouldn't be getting in getting mixed up with these homes uh uh uh are uh uh eventually you uh demolish the entire property market, you undermine uh its moral value in society.
	They've done this to the property market, they've done this to the automobile industry, uh they're gonna do it with environmental regulations.
	This is a full-scale assault on the uh integrity of market capitalism.
	And uh at some point uh this is gonna have catastrophic consequences.

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