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Nov. 4, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 4, 2009, Wednesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of The Rush 24 7 Podcast.
Uh, folks, I've been um looking at at all the uh exit poll data.
I've been looking at all of the um election analysis that I can find.
I've had my staff uh working diligently trying to find something I can't find it.
I'm trying to find out how many votes Obama created or saved in uh in New Jersey of Virginia.
I mean, we know everything else about the vote in uh in Virginia and and uh New Jersey, but I can't find out how many votes were created or saved there.
Uh 500,000 is what I'm guessing.
Uh may maybe maybe have been more.
Uh even even see, even though Obama's candidates lost.
Let me tell you something, folks.
Losing New Jersey is like Stalin being defeated in Moscow.
It's like Castro being defeated in Cuba.
It's like Reagan winning 100% of the vote in the upper west side of Manhattan.
It's like Hu Xin Tao being thrown out by the street sweepers of Beijing.
It's like Kim Jil uh Kim Il Sung, the Kijong Il, a little potbellied guy over there in North Korea being eaten by dogs.
I mean, it is just that you cannot overstate it.
Virginia is big too, but New Jersey.
New Jersey, the bluest of blue states.
And they're trying to say this isn't about Obama.
There's oh no, Russia's not about Obama.
Look at the exit polls.
It's about the economy.
Yeah, right.
Who's killing it?
Obama is killing it.
Look at he inherited he inherited two blue states and they're gone red.
I mean, think of the it's no wonder that Michelle took the two daughters out to see Miley Cyrus last night.
Why watch at home their dad's humiliation on TV all night and get the kids out of the house?
That's a good move by uh by Michelle My Bell Obama out there.
I mean, folks, I'm trying to find the number of jobs or votes that have been saved or created in Virginia uh and uh New Jersey, because even though Obama's candidates lost, I mean, if if they if they follow through on the way they're analyzing everything happening here in the economy, uh Obama can still declare a victory that his campaigning is working, even though he promised victories and his campaign plans failed.
Obama's campaign plans for Corzine indeeds are working exactly as he expected.
In fact, Obama's campaigning exceeded his expectations.
I mean, that's if they're that's what they're saying about the stimulus, that's what they're saying about the economy.
That's what they're saying about his efforts to save it and create jobs.
It's going to hell in a handbasket, and it's not coming back anytime soon.
And they're talking about what a great job they did.
So I would expect Bob Gibbs out there and the White House press secretary uh in his briefing day to claim victory in New Jersey and uh Virginia on the basis of jobs saved, jobs created.
I'll tell you what, folks, the the results last night tell us one certain thing, and that is that the Democrat Party is in trouble.
It is led by a radical, it is stuck with extreme leaders in Congress who continue to defy the public and advance an extreme agenda that will undo that party.
I predicted this.
I predicted this months ago.
This Virginia victory, too.
Now that I think they're both big and in in uh in equal ways.
Uh, but the uh Virginia victory is massive because it's only the second time one party has swept all three statewide races.
And then that happened before we knew the results of New Jersey.
Uh and so you combine Virginia and New Jersey, and what you have is uh you have a blowout.
And I think, folks, I think the worst has yet to come for the Democrats.
Look at I know folks.
I know the media is actually listening to hear what I have to say about New York 23.
But I want them to hear what I think about all these other things first.
So I'll get to New York 23 in just a second.
Ps, don't tell anybody.
Don't give away the plan here.
I know they're out there.
If they're not, they got assigned people listening because they want to know what I'm gonna say about New York 23.
And they're gonna be shocked and stunned when they hear what I say about New York 23, and so will you.
Uh, but I want them to hear this other stuff first.
Okay, where was I?
Oh, yes, The worst.
The worst has yet to come for the Democrats.
Gosh, this is fun.
Pushing not only health care, but cap and trade and soon amnesty.
And I'll tell you something.
You look at the exit polls, health care as an important way the hell down at the bottom in both Virginia and New Jersey, way down there at the bottom, like 14% in one place and 20% in another in the economy.
Oh, and the exit polls.
I love they're focusing on the exit polls.
In uh in one state, I forget which Virginia 60% said it wasn't about Obama, and in another state, 55%.
Well, that means 40% said it was about Obama in a state that he swept, in two states that he swept, 40 to 45% said it was about Obama.
Um anyway, when the exit poll says in both states that the economy is number one in jobs and taxes.
I mean, if that isn't about Obama, I don't know what is.
You think they're still voting against George Bush out there?
Uh I don't think so, folks.
How's that hope and change working out for you?
Now, taxes are heading up, unemployment keeps edging up.
Obama's policies cannot reverse this, and they're not intended to reverse this course.
They are intended to do exactly what they are doing as I have bravely singularly said uh any place I have uh I've had the chance to go.
Obama has now put several blue states in play.
The red states are hardening.
Don't believe any of the accurately predicted by me yesterday, media spin today.
This is a nightmare for the Democrats.
What happened in Virginia?
And in in the truth in the truth of the matter, when we get to New York 23, that's not all that big a deal for them.
I'll explain that when we get there.
I mean, folks, let me tell you something.
I think last night, Virginia and New Jersey, and by the way, in New York, upstate New York, Republicans were winning all kinds of little local offices, same thing in uh in Virginia.
It was it's a huge sweep.
This last night may well have been Obama's Waterloo.
I'm not kidding about that, ladies and that may have been Obama's Waterloo last night.
My first clue that they were really bugged by it was when they tried to tell everybody he wasn't watching the returns.
Ha!
What was he doing?
Chain smoking, shooting hoops.
Uh, you know, the the interesting thing about all this, folks, is uh that it is an anti-Obama vote.
And you and by this is this is not to take away from McDonnell or or Christie.
McDonnell, as the campaign wore on, started sounding more and more conservative and saying so, uh testifying to his conservative credentials, and uh and Christie did too, toward the end of the uh of the campaign.
And they're gonna try to say, well, there's a war in the Republican Party because of New York 23, but no, no, no, no, no.
There is a war in the Democrat Party.
And I um I I have two stories.
Um is by uh by uh Byron York here.
Let me grab it for you very quickly.
Yes, Byron York in the uh Washington Beltway examiner.
Uh move on.org sending out emails today, is seeking more contributions for its campaign to defeat any Democrat senator who does not fully support Obamacare.
Yesterday, the left-wing activist group, George Soros is Munch, asked members to contribute to a primary challenge against any Democrat senator who helps Republicans block an up or down vote on health care reform.
Today move on reports that it received two million bucks in pledges in less than 24 hours.
Uh the executive director there said it's a clear sign of how angry progressives would be at any Democrat who helps filibuster reform.
And I also have buried in the snack here someplace I'm not going to waste time finding it now.
I'll find it during the break.
I've got a funny post from the Daily Coast, Marcos Melitsus, whatever his name is.
Um, and it's funny.
I mean, the the these guys are blaming these losses on the fact that the Democrats were not socialist enough.
The Democrats were not communists enough, they did go far left enough.
So for all this talk about um an attack and a war going on in the in the Republican Party, believe me when I tell you there is one happening in the Democrat Party at their grassroots level.
Make no mistake.
Look at folks, losing New Jersey is like Ted Kennedy losing Massachusetts.
I mean, it's uh it's it's it's huge.
So I gotta look.
Here's here's I gotta take a break here, but let me get one more thing, and then we'll uh we'll get to New York 23 and some other details and sound bites all straight ahead.
Uh Obama now has to defend his base.
He can't count them.
That's what this move on stuff means.
It's what the Daily Coast stuff means.
These returns last night, it's what it means.
He's turning purple states red.
He's making red states redder.
And he's now defending states he should never have to defend.
He should never have to defend in New Jersey.
New Jersey.
And this win in uh in 18 points in Virginia.
They thought they had Virginia forever after this uh 2008 election.
And and there's, you know, not only does Obama have no coattails, he may actually hurt candidates when he goes in there and campaigns for them.
I mean, he put it all on the line in New Jersey.
Uh they knew it was over, through Creed Deeds overboard uh a couple weeks ago, but they let all I mean they were all in in New Jersey.
They can't run around and say this wasn't about him.
I mean, they can say it, and the media acolytes, sycophants, will uh will say it, but we know the truth.
He's defending states he should never have to defend.
He's on defense party.
Trust me when I tell you, the party is unraveling.
It was always a weak coalition of disparate elements, and his policies, Obama's policies are so radical that he's changing the map in ways that are killing his own party.
Trust me on this.
Look at Virginia.
Twelve months ago, it was said to be lost to conservatives.
Obama's defeat there was smashing, embarrassing, humiliating, and you tack New Jersey onto it, and it's hub.
All right, New York 23.
We get back, sit tight.
Hi, welcome back.
It's Rush Limbaugh here at the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
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Here's this uh this this post is from last night at the Daily Coast.
Um be a lot of number crunching tomorrow, he says here, but preliminary numbers, at least in Virginia, show that Republican turnout remain the same as last year, but Democrat turnout collapse.
This is a base problem.
This is what Democrats better take from tonight.
One, if you abandon Democrat principles in a bid for unnecessary bipartisanship, you will lose votes.
Two, if you water down reform in favor of blue dogs and their corporate benefactors, you will lose votes.
And three, if you forget why you were elected, health care, financial services, energy policy, immigration reform, you will lose votes.
Tonight proved conclusively we're not gonna turn out just because you have a D next to your name, or because Obama tells us to.
The choice is yours.
Give us a reason to vote for you, or we sit home.
You know what's amazing about this?
It sounds just like conservatives angry at the Republican Party.
It's almost just like it.
So this guy is saying that the uh the problem was with the Democrat base not turning out, and it going along with blue dogs isn't the way they cure that.
So I guess we could say here that there's a civil war brewing in the Democrat Party, and they need to go more to the middle.
The Democrat Party needs a bigger tent.
The Democrat Party needs to go to the middle.
The Democrat Party needs moderates.
The Democrat Party needs to expand its everything that they are saying from a template about us on the Republican side, we could turn right around and smack them with.
Really, look at this.
Why?
Your base is unhappy with you.
If base is threatening to stay home and not vote, Obama's not even enough to get out there.
You need moderates in your party.
You can't let these far left wing extremists run the show, and they're gonna take you down to defeat.
The same thing that they say about us.
We can say about them.
I mean, every template, every premise that is that is uh falsely presented about, throw it right back at him.
And in our case, we will be telling the truth.
Now, uh, New York 23.
Oh, one little bit of information here before getting into New York 23.
Um I have a friend who lives in Westchester County in New York.
That's deep blue.
Deep blue, Westchester County.
A Republican there, Rob Astorino, won by 16 points over a long time Democrat incumbent.
And Rob Astorino has a day job.
He runs the Catholic channel for Sirius XM Satellite Radio.
He hosts a weekday show with the Cardinal.
Now, folks, this is a deep blue pl.
I mean the Democrats ought to be terrified by this.
It means they can no longer win in races for offices that have nothing to do with social issues in blue states by scaring voters about conservatives' positions on social issues.
Because you can't get, as far as liberals are concerned, you can't get any scarier than a Catholic talking to the cardinal every week on the radio.
So a Catholic in a deep, deep blue county talking to the cardinal every day on a Catholic channel on satellite radio wins by 16 points.
And they want to try to tell us a social issues scares people off.
Don't buy any of it.
Don't buy any of the template, any of the uh conventional wisdom that's spouted by the state control media.
All right.
Here is these are my thoughts on New York 23.
In the first place, uh, I'll have to double check this, but I'm reasonably sure that this was the highest percentage of the vote ever won on the conservative party line by a House or Senate candidate.
I think Hoffman had a higher percentage of the vote than even James Buckley, who won his U.S. Senate race on the against uh uh against this Goodell guy, uh Charles Goodell in the 70s.
So that's that's one thing.
But the right message.
We cannot forget how this whole thing happened in the first place.
There was not a primary.
The right message here would indict the way party bosses, Republican Party bosses and these big thinkers like Newt screwed the whole thing up from the get go.
So, From their standpoint, and I think this is probably still true today, they'd rather say that Reagan conservatism can't win in New York, and that we need more David Brooks type Republicans.
Meantime, I mean that's probably what they're thinking today.
This we on our side, yeah, we need you see, Reagan conservatives can't win in New York.
We we need we need Chris Shays type guys.
Uh, we need we moderates like like uh David Brooks uh kind of Republicans uh to win.
But if the party, see this is the dirty little secret.
If the party had gotten behind Hoffman from the beginning, he would have won going away.
I have no doubt about that.
I'll tell you something else.
People are now talking about Hoffman's lack of uh charisma and familiarity with local issues.
The huge story of New York 23 is the shambles.
The Republican Party made of it.
They nominated a horrendous candidate.
A liberal Republican was far more liberal than this Owens guy, who ended up winning.
They stuck by her for too long.
They basically told over half of the Republican voters in this district, screw you.
We just assume you're not sure.
We're making a stand here with our naming of this candidate.
They were trying to s they were trying to define themselves, the big thinkers, the party bosses were trying to define themselves, once again to the big media types they so want love and respect from by putting up this schizop.
And then when she left, they praised her.
Even as she turned around and endorsed the Democrat.
Now, I I I think it seems strange to start offering explanations for what happened without even mentioning what happened, and this is what happened, and she remained on the ballot.
In fact, she was on the ballot twice.
This is screwest-looking ballot.
I just got this.
Here's the ballot.
Democrat Owens, Republican Skazafava, Independent Skazafava, Conservative Hoffman, Working Families, Owens.
Now, the I mean there were there were five parties on the ballot.
Two of them endorsed Owens, the Democrat Party, the Working Families Party, and two of them endorsed Skazafaz.
The Republican Party and the Independence Party, only one of them endorsed Hoffman.
So Skazafaz's name not only appeared twice on the ballot, but because the Independence Party drew more voters in the previous governor's race than the Conservative Party did, her name appeared twice in the ballot before anybody even saw Hoffman's name, and she was out of the race.
She got five percent of the vote.
Because her name was so there's a lot to be said here.
Yeah, but what did not lose, what did not lose is conservatism.
What lost was Republican ineptitude and incompetence and selecting the wrong candidate from the get-go staying with her for too long and then sending her off packing while she endorses the Democrat.
By the way, let's not forget also that the uh the GOP gave Dee Dee Skozafava nine hundred thousand dollars.
They gave her nine thousand dollars to run the campaign, uh, and she dropped out.
She dropped out and she endorsed a Democrat.
Now, I'll tell you something else about this.
If this doesn't silence all the third party people out there, it should.
This people were mistakenly looking at this as a third party race, and it wasn't a third-party race, as I keep saying because there was no primary there.
Had there been a primary, who knows who would have won Hoffman might have won.
See, New Jersey's a great contrast.
New Jersey, they had a primary.
There was a uh uh guy that was more conservative than Christie, uh Anigan.
Anyway, they had a primary, and Christie won the primary, and the party got behind the winner.
That's how it happens.
There was no primary in New York 23.
The smart people wanting approval from whoever it is they want approval from, picked the absolute most horrendous candidate they could, and then she ends up bombing out and dropping out and then endorsing the Democrat.
Uh, if if there'd have been a primary up there, Hoffman would have won that thing, and the party got behind him, bam, bam, bam, this would this this would not have been uh uh close at all.
So don't don't fact let's there strangely enough, there is one person in a state-controlled media who comes close to getting New York 23 right.
And I'm going to probably inflict great harm on her reputation by pointing her out.
Her name is Deborah Feyrick.
She works at CNN, and this morning on CNN, she said this.
An unknown coming out of nowhere to catch the attention of party conservatives like Sarah Palin, Fred Thompson, Rush Lindbaugh, Doug Hoffman getting more than 40% of the vote.
Now, had the moderate Republican who pulled out of the race just a couple of days ago, and who threw her support to the Democrats, had her name not been on the ballot, and it's very likely that Doug Hoffman would have done even better than he did because her name on that ballot ended up being the spoiler and shifted the race in favor of the Democrats.
Now, I spoke to a journalist who's covered politics in northern New York for more than 30 years.
He tells me that he was surprised by the depth of anger within Republicans in this area, had not seen anything like it before, saying that the message of conservatives is they want to take back this country.
That's that's I know it's hard to believe, folks.
You're gonna trust me, that's CNN, Deborah Feyrick getting it right, Skazafaz's name was on the ballot twice.
Owens' name was on the ballot twice.
She got five percent of the vote.
So uh, and and had that not happened, why Hoffman would have this is this is a uh textbook case in how not to select a candidate and how not to uh to run a uh a campaign.
Uh here's the uh CNN by the way, CNN posted this they couldn't wait.
530 last night before the polls closed.
Exit poll.
Obama, not a big factor in Virginia.
There have been plenty of talk by local pundits at Virginia's gubernatorial contest was a referendum on Obama, but voters don't agree.
Uh, According to data from CNN, which, and by the way, I don't believe his exit poll stuff.
I just want to get it out there.
I don't trust it.
I don't believe it ever since the 2004 election when they had John Kerry elected at five o'clock in the afternoon, and Bob Schrum was walking in there saying, May I be the first to say, congratulations, Mr. President?
And then when the real votes started counting, uh they started being counted.
Remember the left thought the fraud was in the real vote count?
So I I don't try I don't believe his exit vote.
I'll tell you another reason I don't believe his exit vote exit poll stuff is because I still think there are a lot of people coming out of the polling place, and uh, what's your vote about Obama?
Oh no, no, I don't call me a racist.
Oh no, no, no, no, don't call me a race.
No, my vote had nothing to do with Obama.
I don't believe any of this for a moment.
They came out of there and they said the number one issue was the economy.
Well, I ask you who it is that's destroying it.
Who is it that is inexorably tied to it now?
Who is it that owns it?
Who is it that's out there talking about, hey, we've come back from the brink.
Who is it whose stimulus plan has lost 3.3 million jobs with more on the way.
I guarantee him to you, folks, people were not walking in a ballot box yesterday voting against George Bush.
Do you believe, by the way, did you hear this?
Angela Merkel invited President Obama to Germany for the anniversary of the falling of the Berlin Wall.
He said, I'm too busy.
I guess he's working on Afghanistan, folks.
I guess he's working too hard to have.
He can't go.
Now, folks, this is unprecedented.
An American president not showing up at one of the most famous sites for the destruction of tyranny and the outbreak of freedom.
Being invited by the chancellor, the president of Germany, and not going.
An American president not showing up at a citadel of freedom and extolling the virtues of what happened there.
I mean, hell, he should go even if he wants to praise Gorbachev for making it happen.
I think, you know, Reagan is there.
Reagan is there in spirit.
Reagan is there every Mr. Gorbachev teared down this one.
I think I think one of the reasons Obama may not want to go is because I think he probably fears he'd be upstaged by the memory of Ronald Reagan.
And whatever speechifying goes on is going to be uh including uh it will include mentions of Ronald Reagan.
But it's just to not go, to not go.
I got other things on my mind.
I uh other things to do.
I can't fit it into the schedule.
If it's not about him, he's not showing up.
But I I just it's unprecedented.
This is U.S., you know, Jack Kennedy be there.
Hell.
For that matter, even Jimmy Carter would go.
They'd all been there.
Uh, but not Barack Obama.
Mm.
Mmm.
Mmm.
So exit polls, CNN.
Obama, not a big factor in Virginia.
55% said Obama was not a factor in how they voted.
But uh, you go over to uh who is this?
This is uh don't know who this is.
Looks like ABC's website.
09 exit polls, vast economic discontent spells trouble for Democrats in 2010.
I really need to know who this is.
Uh shast economic discontent marked the mood of Tuesday's off-year voters pretending potential trouble for incumbents generally and Democrats in particular in 2010.
But if Virginia were pulse closed at 7 p.m., Cree Deeds main problem looks to have been Cree Deeds.
His main problem is he's a Democrat.
His main problem is he's a Democrat, and so is Obama.
Uh half of Virginia voters, 51%, so they approved of the way Obama's handling his job, and that rose to 57% of New Jersey.
This is in the exit polls again, which I don't trust and I don't believe, and I especially person to person, you're walking out of the polling place, and here comes some pollster and says, hmm, uh your vote having to do with Obama, what do you give Obama?
Oh, I love Obama.
Oh, well, I'm I'm out of here.
They're not, they're just not gonna say and and AP.
Election 09 tests not voting well for Obama.
Republican delay declared winner in Virginia gubernatorial race.
So somebody at AP uh forgot uh that that uh this the whole template, this is uh not about Obama, and they ran a story saying that it is.
Then the French news agency, I thought you'd be interested in this Republican victories taint Obama anniversary.
Republicans won two key state elections dealing a stinging blow to President Obama and his Democrats twelve months after they swept to power.
Uh you know, I can imagine what they're thinking in the way.
You know, it's really despicable.
It's just despicable to Republicans to taint our dear leader's anniversary this way.
But coming up the anniversary of his election, and we have to taint it with this this off here stuff.
Um, these exit polls.
Have you ever noticed how they always say exactly what the Democrat Party once said?
Whatever the Democrat Party wants the message to be is what the exit polls are.
It wasn't about Obama.
Oh no.
No, well, we weren't even thinking about Obama when we win it.
Oh no, whatever the Democrat Party wants the message to be, seems like that's always what the exit polls tell us.
It's not just the French, by the way, saying Obama's anniversary has been tainted.
The UK telegraph Republican wins in the battles for the uh New Jersey-Virginia governorships have tainted the first anniversary of Obama's presidential election victory, with almost all votes counted in the two key elections.
The gain of a vacant congressional seat in a strongly Republican district of New York State was scant compensation for the U.S. president.
Brief timeout.
We'll grab some of your phone calls when we come back after this.
So I just checked the email during the uh during the break here.
You know, I just expressed a little shock, uh stunned amazement that uh our president is not going to accept the invitation, has not accepted, will not accept the invitation, Angela Merkel to uh go to the anniversary of the falling of the Berlin Wall.
I get a lot of emails from people, rush, rush, rush, rush, rush, rush.
Communists don't go celebrate their failures.
Obama will be back when they rebuild the wall.
And he'll autograph it.
Here's uh Charlie.
A lot of those.
Charlie and Boulder, Colorado.
Great to have you on the program, sir.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
Thanks.
This is a big honor.
I heard you first back in 87 or 88 when you were still in Sacramento, I believe.
Yeah, that's right.
That would have been the case.
We've loved you ever since because you say what we already believe, not because you've turned us into mine round nobody.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
Let me get to my point.
I think the real lesson of New York 23 is the sentiment, the same sentiment that hates Sarah Palin, and that is the self-anointed, whether Republicans or Democrats, they will not tolerate an average person standing up and running for office.
The Republicans would rather have a Democrat win than have that happen, and have the people that are supposed to be the ruled standing up and taking their country back.
Well, you know, uh uh I hate to agree with you about that with the Republican Party, but I think you're right about a lot of people in that party, average people not welcome.
Gotta have the pedigree.
Now, I haven't, you know, I don't I never like to make this program about me.
It's getting it's becoming harder and harder not to.
But folks, I got audio sound bites of the media say, Oh, big loss for limbo!
Big loss for Sarah Palin.
Oh, the New York Daily News, every sentence pred is is a is a is a prediction of mine come true yesterday about this.
It's it's just it's the snarkiest thing.
Uh they're all over the place.
And I, of course, am just an average guy.
You know, I I don't come from any pedigree.
I come from the Midwest, a little town of 30,000.
Uh, and uh well, 25,000 of some people who moved in since I moved out.
Uh, but you're right.
I I think especially certainly the Democrat Party, and they are even the real hypocrites about it, Charlie, because they're the ones who claim to be for the little guy.
That's right.
And I think this bolsters your point, Rush, which is the message to the leaders of the Republican Party is don't put up these establishment folks, because we will defeat your candidate, even if it means the Democrat is going to win.
And now that's what they need to learn that lesson.
Uh, you know what?
Uh, I was reading uh Eric Erickson today at redstate.com, and he was uh the the the real first behind uh Hoffman guy that I know I mean he was really pushing it on his blog, and he wrote to them a paraphrase it.
He wrote, Look, the message out of this is we took out a horrible Republican.
We kept a horrible Republican from possibly winning and totally redefining the party in a way that would make it a permanent minority party.
So in Eric's view, yeah, it would have been great if Hoffman won, but the real victory was making sure that a Republican in name only did not win.
And that dovetails here with what uh what Charlie said.
Here's Barbara, Westchester County in New York, deep blue it is.
Welcome, Barbara.
Hi, Ross.
Thank you very much for taking my call.
I think you're great.
Really.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
I can't believe I'm talking to you.
That's just great.
Look, I was calling you because in Westchester County, we did a great thing last night.
We voted out Andy Spano, who is the county executive and was our county executive for twelve years.
Yep.
And the Republican Rob Astorino won by 16%.
And get you that Andy Spano, not only did he raise our taxes 60%, but at the same time, he was not only on the line.
You were talking about the man up state, but in Westchester County, Andy Spano was on the ticket not only as a Democrat, but Andy Spanner was running for county executive, was on the ticket as a conservative.
There was this back room deal.
That's another whole story, but believe it or not, he was on the air conservative.
Right.
And we won.
We won.
Because the people in Westchester County are fed up.
Fed up with the property taxes.
Let me repeat, Barbara, what to me is is fascinating because all of what you said is true, and I'm sure it was a huge factor.
But one of the things also that we are told is that uh the social issues are going to kill any tenses.
The Republican Party ever has abortion on all these attention to cultural issues.
It'll be the certain death doom of the party.
Well, who is the guy who won?
Who is he?
He he has a day job.
He hosts the Catholic channel on Sirius XM Satellite Radio, and he interviews the Cardinal once a week.
Now you're in Westchester County.
You have a 12-year incumbent.
You have a man who hosts a Catholic radio network, runs it, interviews the Cardinal once a week in deep blue Westchester County winning by 16 points.
Now the Democrats up there, they had that, I'm guaranteeing you that that's that's got to scare.
I mean I mean a guy that hosts a Catholic channel in deep blue Westchester County, that's like showing the cross to Dracula, and the guy wins by 16 points.
You can't get more social issues than somebody running the Catholic network and talking to the Cardinal once a week.
You can't get more social on issues and culture than that.
You know, and everybody thinks Catholic church is hated and despised and so forth.
How do you explain this?
And there's a lot of factors here.
I mean, uh uh Barbara is exactly right, but corruption and uh raising taxes and all these things.
It's it's arrogance, uh which rubs people the wrong way, but I don't I don't think that you can take out of the equation uh his day job.
So there's some see here's my point.
Exit polls say, oh, it wasn't about Obama.
Uh conventional wisdom.
Republicans have got to get rid of the social issues.
Well, conventional wisdom Republicans gotta get a big tank at moderates in there.
Don't believe any of it.
Don't believe a word of it.
It Is all intended to get you to adopt beliefs that will secure defeat of your party.
And sadly, some of our smart people have fallen right in line with it.
We'll be back after this.
I was at the uh the website Newsbusters.com and I saw a headline.
So this has to be a joke.
Has to be a joke, but it's not.
Newsbusters headline, Obama watched HBO special about himself instead of election returns.
And they quoted Gibbs.
Robert Gibbs said, well, he was actually watching, you know, the HBO special about his year-long uh campaign.
Gibbs thought it would look better if the commander-in-chief was watching a self-indulgent, fawning documentary about himself rather than the returns.
He's watching a special by the way.
I haven't seen that thing, but uh we ought to talk about that because we have to go to a break.
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